Do PR0 backlinks still hold any weight?

stevenjacobs

Banned 10 years ago

they hold a little but not worth as much as pr 1 -9

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Link-juice (like almost everything else in internet marketing) depends on two main things: relevance and quality.

SEO topics belong here, you know? Search Engine Optimization

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Jonny2spoons

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Link-juice (like almost everything else in internet marketing) depends on two main things: relevance and quality.

SEO topics belong here, you know? Search Engine Optimization

That's right. You're better changing your mindset from looking at PR to looking at other, more important metrics. The short answer is YES they are still worthwhile, but there is a lot more to consider than just the PR.

You could quite easily get more link juice from a PR0 site than say a PR6 site, it all depends on the circumstances and the domains in question. For example, I would rather get a PR0 link from someone in my niche who has great content and wants to feature my website rather than page for a "PR5" backlink from fiverr which is probably going to be worthless at best, if not actually very harmful.

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SEOJerry

10 years ago

The PR rank actually does not mean anything in itself, it is just a tool to give you a bench mark of what Google thinks of the site. You want relative links first and foremost, but I also try to stay away from the PR0 sites no matter what.

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SEOWizard417 10 years ago

PR0 links can still add some value to your site. Keep in mind that PR is not the only metric or factor to consider. Are you getting a link from a blog post or blog comment? Things like Linktype, relevance and outbound links also play a big role. A PR 0 link from a relevant blog post would provide more value than a PR 4 blog comment link with hundreds of outbound looks. You need to consider the bigger picture and not just focus on one aspect.
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testoman

10 years ago

Originally Posted by SEOJerry

The PR rank actually does not mean anything in itself, it is just a tool to give you a bench mark of what Google thinks of the site. You want relative links first and foremost, but I also try to stay away from the PR0 sites no matter what.

This. Plus the patent will be up in a few years and you can say bye-bye to PR. Until G possibly invents something else.

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Andrewsfm

10 years ago

lol at saying a PR0 would be more powerful than a PR5-6 because it is relevant content.

A PR5-6 would usually have a lot more quality back links going to it to give it decent juice and will of been around a lot longer also. More authority, PA/DA, decent links boom and outbound links.

I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!

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Alexa Smith Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrewsfm

I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!

I hear you ... but I worry a lot more when they're saying (or implying) that it's good to buy hundreds/thousands of (probably software-made) irrelevant/random backlinks just because "the more backlinks you have, the better".

And a lot more still, when they're selling "backinks from PR-5 websites" without telling you that the link they're selling is (a) on a PR-0 page of the site, which (b) also has 100 other backlinks on it anyway!
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Jonny2spoons

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrewsfm

lol at saying a PR0 would be more powerful than a PR5-6 because it is relevant content.

A PR5-6 would usually have a lot more quality back links going to it to give it decent juice and will of been around a lot longer also. More authority, PA/DA, decent links boom and outbound links.

I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!

Try to keep up. We are saying that you cannot (and should not) judge the merits of a backlink based purely on page rank. I own several PR6 domains that I picked up for less than $10. How? Because they have no backlinks which means no domain authority, no trust flow,nothing.

So if someone offers me a choice between a PR0 and PR6 link I'm not going to make a decision on the context of the link itself until I know more about the domains. I certainly wouldn't just jump at the pr6 just be cause it higher page rank.

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johnben1444

10 years ago

Good SEO cost lots of money today.

You may want to consider outreach and guest blogging.

Those are the only methods that may be accessible to you at the moment since you have low to zero budget.

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Laubster

10 years ago

All depends on the backlink profile (as always). I've bought PR1 sites with strong profiles that jumped to PR4 during the last update. And vice versa. You pretty much always have to check the domain's links by hand.

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Imfactsandsecrets

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

If you want to go the traditional route of organic traffic, do you think PR0 links will still work? If not, what are some low-budget ways that take hard work, to get some higher level backlinks?

With anchor text.

If its a good and relevant link, its good for your site. Don't bother too much about anchor text though. If it looks like you got a link to boost serps for a particular KW, it might actually harm you. Think in "organic" and more natural terms.

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americanclassifieds

10 years ago

PR0 still have value, obviously not as much as pr 1 -9.
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mkgg

10 years ago

Yeah they are better than PR N/A ones.

But don't expect much and don't ever pay for them.

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Right now you have no idea If it's a PR0 or a PR7 considering the last update was about a year ago.

Check the backlinks for the backlink page, are there links from authority sites?

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chris_87 10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Right now you have no idea If it's a PR0 or a PR7 considering the last update was about a year ago.

Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
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- yukon Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by chris_87
  
  Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
  
  I'm sure PR days are numbered.
  
  I've never understood why Google had a public PR to begin with, no person outside of SEO ever cared about PR.
  
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  chris_87 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  I'm sure PR days are numbered.
  I've never understood why Google had a public PR to begin with, no person outside of SEO ever cared about PR.
  
  I suppose once they stop updating PR, after enough time has elapsed, we will have no choice but to rely on third party tools to evaluate the effectiveness of a potential back link page. Especially for newer pages with links that have been created after the last PR update.
  
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- Alexa Smith Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by chris_87
  
  Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
  
  Matt Cutts has previously stated in interviews that "not publishing any PR information" remains a longer-term objective for Google.
  
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timpears

10 years ago

Yukon is right, PR means almost nothing at best. You need to look at the backlinks themselves. Check the Majestic trust flow and citation flow. Find the page authority and the domain authority. SEMoz also has some metrics that should be good, although I don't' check them very often.

You need to check the anchor text to make sure there isn't a lot of spam links, make sure there are mostly brand and URL or domain links. A scattering of keyword links is OK, but if the first batch of links in Majestic anchor text tab are keywords, then run away as Google has tagged that as a spam site.

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yukon Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

Yukon is right, PR means almost nothing at best.

That's not what I said.

PR still has value & makes it extremely easy to spot established authority sites. Authority sites have PR pages that have been around for years, those old links that generate that PR don't usually drop off because the supporting links are buried on the net. Sure it's possible strong links can drop off but all you have to do is check the backlink page link profile, either the links are there or they're not.

I don't mess with stuff like trust flow, that stuff is a gimmick. Moz just makes stuff up to generate sales, can't blame them too much, they've pretty much mastered their sales funnel.
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bodmov

10 years ago

Some pr 0 sites will be more on the next update.

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SEO Power

10 years ago

PR 0 backlinks can cause some serious movements up the rankings when created in bulk, but this could trigger an unnatural links penalty. They are great in small quantities for diversity or in large quantities as tier 2 or tier 3 links.