1WayLinks.net or Linkvana?

by sree94
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Hey,

Can anybody tell me the difference between 1WayLinks.net from Jon Leger and Linkvana?

I am currently a Linkvana subscriber. The price is very steep, and even though my sales are up since I bought, most of my traffic is coming from EzineArticles

I would like something a bit more reasonable
#1waylinksnet #linkvana
  • Profile picture of the author nikolaaa
    I don't like idea how 1waylinks works.
    It just put your article with links on many blogs that are link farms.
    As I understand it, you have to make new blog just for that network and that means that all blogs are without reputation, just with random articles...
    Like link farm.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemoore
    linkvana is a professional service for seo's and folks that actually make a living online, and if one knows how to do key research for your anchors, linkvana is worth 10 times the fee. first I have heard of 1waylinks, but if it is anything like 3waylinks then it is geared more towards the "internet marketing" crowd. From what I have read Jon Leger seems like a cut above your average top level internet marketer integrety-wise, at the same time, he is an internet marketer, and linkvana is run by an SEO's. I am sure both services have their place, and 1waylinks seems like a low enough price to try it, then you can compare to your linkvana results. just keep your tests separate.

    P.s. quick advice, I would really keep an eye on a specifc project test or 2 in linkvana to see how certain words react, it will help you understand what keywords work and also the worth of good links. try a couple real general anchors of 2 terms (words), a couple semi-general 3 term anchors, niched 4 term keys that you find in common keyword tools, and a few niched longtail (with historic traffic) 4-5 terms. Then check it every couple weeks in your stats. This applies for any method you are using to get links, linkvana, 1 way links, anything, just keep tests separate and if poss in the same general market. Sorry to ramble.
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    • Profile picture of the author cybercyborg
      I agree to this. And recently, they have also added features that allow mass posting to Youtube, Metacafe etc. as well. They have added a number of web 2.0 sites recently.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
        Originally Posted by cybercyborg View Post

        I agree to this. And recently, they have also added features that allow mass posting to Youtube, Metacafe etc. as well. They have added a number of web 2.0 sites recently.

        Yep, LV is the shiz nizzle in my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author jonathanleger
    1WayLinks does, in fact, have its users add their own blogs into the network. The reason this is done is 4-fold:

    1) Geographically diverse, unique class C IP addresses.

    Since individuals from all over the world are adding the blogs in from a large number of diverse web hosts, we get a much greater mix of geographically diverse class-C IP addresses than other services.

    2) No footprints.

    Individuals setup their own blogs in their own way. They have their own plugins, their own themes, etc. So each blog passes human inspection in a way that would be incredibly difficult to duplicate as a one-man (or even one-team) effort.

    3) Large network of blogs.

    Since each member submit their own blog, the network of blogs is continually growing. 1,000 users means at least 1,000 blogs in the network, etc. That means your links go to a greater variety of random locations than is possible than when every blog is owned by one person (or company).

    4) Keeps cost down.

    1WayLinks is purposefully providing a much lower cost solution than competitors such as LinkVana -- which is a whopping $147 a month to be a part of. Having users contribute their blogs makes this posible.

    It's working like a champ.

    The success forum is loaded with success stories already -- and we've barely passed the one-month mark. The results speak for themselves: 1WayLinks is incredibly effective, while remaining incredibly cost-effective. Even when we're out of beta we'll be one third the price of the competition like LinkVana.
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    • Profile picture of the author Austin Delaney
      I'm finding the 1waylinks network pretty good. Can't comment too much on Linkvana as am not a member.

      As Jon says there's no footprints in 1waylinks but it is vulnerable if the big G (oogle) decided to check it out.

      But only in the same way as linkvana who apparently don't give out the URLs of posts containing ur one way links.

      I'm sure Google could afford to buy an account, post an obscure keyword link to the network and then just use the inanchor operator to find the page it's hosted on.

      from there they could probably find most of the other URLs in the network by using inanchor on other anchor texts. If they wanted to that is.

      I'm confident that 1waylink blogs will gain PR - since IM is our trade it means we have to know a little about SEO and understand the importance of doing some link building for our own blogs too.

      At the price it's a bargain esp. when linking strategies are employed properly. And if the network is compromised then it's not too huge of an investment to lose.

      Austin.
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Originally Posted by austind72 View Post


        But only in the same way as linkvana who apparently don't give out the URLs of posts containing ur one way links.

        Austin.
        Actually, if you use Linkvana for WP sites then you can see the one way back links in your dashboard.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    Is it still not similar to gaming the system?
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    • Profile picture of the author COBSolutions
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      Is it still not similar to gaming the system?
      What is SEO then, to an extent, you are gaming Google
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      • Profile picture of the author Vesuvio
        I will be trying the 1waylinks system as it is the most reasonably priced. Will post results.
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          I would make sure its not one of those back link "services" that makes all your back links disappear when you stop subscribing. I made that mistake once with a deal called NextGen Links.

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          Originally Posted by Vesuvio View Post

          I will be trying the 1waylinks system as it is the most reasonably priced. Will post results.
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    What I would like to know is that once we decide to cancel membership from either 1waylinks.net or articlemarketingautomation.com, will our previous links stay intact of whatever articles and posts we have submitted all the months we were paying members?

    According to my opinion, the articles and links should stay. Anyone has any idea on this. I hope Jon answers my question as it is his service.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      What I would like to know is that once we decide to cancel membership from either 1waylinks.net or articlemarketingautomation.com, will our previous links stay intact of whatever articles and posts we have submitted all the months we were paying members?

      According to my opinion, the articles and links should stay. Anyone has any idea on this. I hope Jon answers my question as it is his service.
      In the 1waylinks program, if you cancel your membership your links will remain intact as long as the blog you submitted for others to link from remains live.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by webdesigner4 View Post

      Google will punish sites using these linking systems, its only a matter of time.
      These systems allow you to post to blogs and get backlinks for seo purposes. I don't see much difference in using linkvana or 1waylinks versus submitting articles to directories. Part of the reason for article directories is to build backlinks. Google has not punished sites that get links from EZA.
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      • Profile picture of the author freetraff
        Originally Posted by adamv View Post

        These systems allow you to post to blogs and get backlinks for seo purposes. I don't see much difference in using linkvana or 1waylinks versus submitting articles to directories. Part of the reason for article directories is to build backlinks. Google has not punished sites that get links from EZA.
        Very clear and concise understanding of it.

        The only difference is that blogs who republish your content do not touch your backlinks. And sites that steal content from article directories delete your backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Dixon
    Good discussion on these 2 popular services. I don't personally use either but I am interested in possibly using one or both in the future.

    Nice to see Jonathan posting on here as well.

    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by Tim Dixon View Post

      Good discussion on these 2 popular services. I don't personally use either but I am interested in possibly using one or both in the future.

      Tim
      In that case, you might want to do a search on this forum for 'nextgen links' because it looks very interesting. I just joined it.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Arine Mark
    I use linkvana. Doesn't help much.
    Combined with others technique, it works just about fine for me.
    Especially for low competition keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author magentawave
    Daniel, you said...

    "With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice and linking to your site from "relevant categories".

    Hmmm, I'm not too sure about that "sites with decent pagerank" and "relevant categories" thing you said about Linkvana. I mean, I know that is what the Linkvana people say, but I can see all my Linkvana back links in my WP dashboard and they are ALL from junk spammy blogs of no visitor value with PR0 pages that have NOTHING at all to do with the subject of my sites. Time will tell (at $147 per month!) how well Linkvana works for my sites, and IF it does work, well that just gives heaps of credence to the power of the one way back link. Geez, I figure if Linkvana's junk links can boost my site, then just think how much juice you would get from a one way back link from a page that has high PR?

    "Some links won't get credited by the SEs if too many are obtained at once."


    Yes, and too many links at once may get your site sandboxed by Google like what happened to me about three years ago. In my case, it was almost two years before Google stopped spanking my site.

    I just joined NextGen Links yesterday. Its early because they are new, but what do you think about them? I'm hopeful since the monthly cost is a fraction of what Linkvana is costing me.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author ebizza
    If you have the money, go for Linkvana.

    However, 1Waylinks is still highly effective for its cost.
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  • Great posts and great thread. Just a quick thought on admav's comment above about the blogs being no different than article submissions. I don't agree ( and I'm not a user of either service ) I would imagine that the vast range of blog ip's from all over the world would make the service useful. Throw in Googles current obsession with Wordpress and I think such services may be worthwhile.

    And yes it's nice to see luminaries such as Jonathon Leger in here. It suggests we are hanging in the right spot for good info.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by freetraff View Post

      Very clear and concise understanding of it.

      The only difference is that blogs who republish your content do not touch your backlinks. And sites that steal content from article directories delete your backlinks.
      I use 1waylinks, I wasn't suggesting that people should just post to article directories. I was responding to someone that thought Google would punish the sites that get links from programs like 1waylinks, linkvana, neurolinker, 3-waylinks, etc.

      If Google doesn't "punish" sites that get backlinks from article directories, I don't expect them to punish sites that get backlinks from other blogs. That's what I meant with my initial response.

      In regards to sites deleting backlinks after scraping article directories for content, I've found that a lot of the parked domains that my articles appear on will disable my ancher text links but if my article originally posted on EZA has the entire url in the resource box ie. http:// www . yourdomain . com then the link on the scraper sites is clickable. In my articles now I usually put one link with keyword ancher text and one link that is a full URL.
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Daniel said...

        "NextGenLinks seems OK. Not sure how many unlimited links I'll be getting when using just the wordpress sidebar thing."

        Can you explain that a little more please?

        I just read your article where you mentioned Knol. Is Knol Knol: a unit of knowledge owned by Google?

        I started using Linkvana about 5 weeks ago and am using it for 6 sites so far. PR2 just popped on two of the sites in the last week and I'm starting to see commissions so it shouldn't be too long before the commissions will pay for Linkvana and then some...and hopefully a lot more then somes! I outsource my 100 word articles for 40 to 50 cents a piece.

        Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author freetraff
        Originally Posted by adamv View Post

        I use 1waylinks, I wasn't suggesting that people should just post to article directories. I was responding to someone that thought Google would punish the sites that get links from programs like 1waylinks, linkvana, neurolinker, 3-waylinks, etc.

        If Google doesn't "punish" sites that get backlinks from article directories, I don't expect them to punish sites that get backlinks from other blogs. That's what I meant with my initial response.

        In regards to sites deleting backlinks after scraping article directories for content, I've found that a lot of the parked domains that my articles appear on will disable my ancher text links but if my article originally posted on EZA has the entire url in the resource box ie. http:// www . yourdomain . com then the link on the scraper sites is clickable. In my articles now I usually put one link with keyword ancher text and one link that is a full URL.
        I understand what you say, just wanted to highlight the advantage of blog posting for growing backlinks compared for article marketing for growing backlinks.

        It will take time before people understand that submitting your content for republishing on niche blogs is just a new level of article marketing.

        People typically think in terms of 'officially accepted and approved' notions. Article marketing for them is good (and it is good). But not all people are ready to open the eyes and understand what writing an article and submitting it to the network of relevant blogs (for republishing) is actually nothing but an article marketing.

        The only difference from traditional article marketing is that you have 'closer connection' to the blog owners who republish your info and can be sure they do not touch your backlinks.

        Bottom line: anyone who says that republishing content on niche blogs with different IPs, (blogs belonging to different people, some of the blogs for years in the Internet) is a link farm should tell the same about article marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author bshearer
          Originally Posted by freetraff View Post

          It will take time before people understand that submitting your content for republishing on niche blogs is just a new level of article marketing.
          I agree big time!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author adamv
            @Freetraff

            I agree. There is definitely a lot of value in posting your content on blogs with "in context" backlinks rather than only posting them to article directories. I think people should get as much mileage out of their content as possible. Submit your articles to EZA, make a Squidoo lens, put it on your own blog, make a video, make a podcast etc.

            For people that think there is something blackhat about using these services:

            I would completely disagree with that. What is wrong or unethical about services that help automate some of the linking process? I don't see anything wrong with these services at all.

            The people that submit content get a backlink and the people that own the blogs get automated content. This saves everyone some time and I'm not worried about Google punishing these sites. If the big G decides they don't like something and my sites suffer I will look for alternate methods to get rankings but there is certainly nothing black hat about using linkvana or 1waylinks IMO.
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            • Profile picture of the author freetraff
              My vision is that Google will never fight backlink strategies that force people to create content (for building backlinks).

              Unlike link farms where you get backlinks just because you are in, here you need to create content.

              No content - no backlinks.

              I assume this is exactly what Google wants = > people who are creating more content in all niches. Because the more content Google has to offer to its surfers, the more helpful Google becomes to its users, the more powerful it becomes as a search engine.
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  • Profile picture of the author bshearer
    Nicely put. Now that their position on duplicate content has been more defined this becomes more true.
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  • Profile picture of the author locke
    This is one of the most helpful threads I have had the honor of reading here at the warrior forum. It sounds like a few things have been established based on everyone's posts :

    1.) Both 1WayLinks and LinkVana are respected but recognized as being different in regard to the quality of blogs and the price tag that each one is accompanied by.

    2.) These services should not be used without a decent understanding of long tail keywords and the ability to find niche keyword terms that have high search / high adwords bids and low competition

    3.) Everyone that has used either of these services recognizes their value.

    At this point I am sold... I have been working like a dog trying to build up backlinks the "old fashioned way" via article directories, forum signatures, blog posts, author pages etc...

    My new strategy involves signing up for a 1waylinks account and then purchasing the more expensive/premium Linkvana account after my revenue has increased enough to justify both services at the same time.

    At some point down the road, the 1waylinks account will only be used for new blogs and the LinkVana account will be used to fight off the internet marketing vultures trying to take my 1st place spots for my most conveted niches.

    I really appreciate everyone's contribution and I only have 1 question left :

    Can someone please refer me to a quality article writing service where I can obtain 100 word mini posts with targeted seo terms for under 2 bucks/each? (thats what Linkvana charges...)
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    • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
      Originally Posted by locke View Post

      Can someone please refer me to a quality article writing service where I can obtain 100 word mini posts with targeted seo terms for under 2 bucks/each? (thats what Linkvana charges...)
      I use MTurk with Amazon and find writers that will do it at that price. Post a HIT stating that you are looking for someone to do your specific tasks and get in touch via email. Mturk fee is higher than than paypals receiving fee, so I get most my work done outside the initial HIT post. Hope this helps.

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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        The good thing about using Linkvana's writers is that for $2.00 per article, they will not only write the snippets, but they will also submit them to your account. Having them do the submissions will save you a lot of time. However, if you go the cheap route (like I did), then you can put up a project at one of those free lance type sites and pay someone as little as fifty cents per 100 word article.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Oling
    I have never use any of these link building stuffs because i was scared Big G will disable my account. But as far as I can read on this thread I am thinking of getting into one of these services where everybody has to write and original article and I do not see anything wrong or link farming in this case.

    Thanks guys for a very informative thread.

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    • Profile picture of the author fifitesmartin
      Hi, new to the forum but been a full time affiliate for 9 years now and only just getting into blogs.

      I've been looking at 1waylinks and ArticleMarketingAutomation, both these allow you to spin your article, so unique versions are posted. I've looked at the Linkvana site but there is no mention of being able to spin an article, so I'm assuming a duplicate version is posted to the blogs in the network, am I right in assuming this. This is a big deal for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author niceweb
        for LinkVana you have to post unique nonspun 200 words for each link you want. It only get posted once.

        So if you want 20 links from linkvana you need 20 unique 200 words post.
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  • Profile picture of the author fifitesmartin
    I suppose one answer would be to sign up for the jetspinner (jetsubmitter) free trial, build an article and spin it, then download the spun versions to your pc. You could then have, say, 500 unique articles to copy and paste, (you get a zip file containing a txt file for each spun version). A lot of faffing about but better than doing them all manually. I say free trial of jetsubmitter because I'm still unsure of it's worth paying for yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Hey do you guys have any suggestions for other ways I could use all these 100 word articles I've submitted to Linkvana?

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Neither, both systems are flawed, results are not sustained indefinitely.
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      Neither, both systems are flawed, results are not sustained indefinitely.
      Okay, so what is the best solution for getting one way back links?

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      results are not sustained indefinitely.
      I know 2 years is not indefinite but I'm liking whats happening.
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      • Profile picture of the author blue_sky
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        I know 2 years is not indefinite but I'm liking whats happening.
        so you are using the service for more than 2 years and still have all your sites??????
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
          Originally Posted by blue_sky View Post

          so you are using the service for more than 2 years and still have all your sites??????
          Absolutely.

          I am not sure how long the service has been going but I have been a member since day 1, roughly 2 years I think and all the sites I have submitted are doing beautifully.

          Never had an issue with one of them.

          One is a .info that has sat at #1 - #3 for the last 2 years for a search term with over 156 million competing . 1 way links has gotten over 23 sites onto page 1 with only 3 failing to get to page 1.

          Hugely recommend it.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    BEST Solution - Mix different types of links!

    1. Submit directory
    2. Web 2.0 traffic and links
    3. Bookmarks
    4. Article directories
    5. Blog Networks
    6. Blog comment /forum
    7. RSS directories

    Mixes of different types of links and grow naturally will give you more sustainable result... just keep doing it even you don't see result in 2 months!
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  • Profile picture of the author roddaut
    I agree with the post above. Use many strategies. I can say that adding 1waylinks did help my sites ranking and sales. However, its one of several strategies I use.

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      Edit: Support issue resolved with Jon Leger.
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  • Profile picture of the author japanguy
    Long term, isn't it best to do it the hard way? By that I mean, quality content, quality backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrichards1984
    hey why not UAW?? the best part I like about them is that they spin the article before posting on each blog does LV has that option too? :-/
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  • Profile picture of the author locke
    I definitely agree with kkchoon in regards to mixing links as much as possible, i try to use social bookmarking in conjunction with blogroll exchanges in addition to various other methods which i will choose not to mention (i.e. trade secrets lol..). if someone wants to know more about 1wyl they can feel free to contact me with questions or read the following review I have written...

    1WayLinks Review | Your Blog Is Money

    I offer a starter pack and training material if people choose to sign up with my affiliate link
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    I personally prefer linkvana for its' high PR blogs.

    Yes, some would argue linkvana blogs is not high PR, that is because some of the blogs are actually new, and they keep adding more!

    But rest assure those blogs will grow to PR 4 or 5 in a year, your link value will go up as well! After you have joined for few months, they actually let you access to more high PR blogs, this might be their policy to protect both their client and themselves...

    One thing I don't like about any kind of blog network, they tend to work slowly, and I mean too slow for me. A blog getting content too fast might get penalized, but not for us as the user. I don't think getting tons of links will get my site sandbox or anyway.

    However, if my links is inconsistent, my site might be dancing around up and down. That's why I advice people to spread link building evenly, but don't worry about getting too much links.

    If you have 1000 link resources, just spread it across 5 days or 10 days, your site should be staying without any problem!
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  • Profile picture of the author BenjaminGates
    I never knew these two sites. It is a good thing to have such link resources with just a single click action. I was relying on ezinearticles and articlesnatch which Google keeps on de-indexing or down ranking in the search results.

    I will give them a try.
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    • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
      Originally Posted by BenjaminGates View Post

      I never knew these two sites. It is a good thing to have such link resources with just a single click action. I was relying on ezinearticles and articlesnatch which Google keeps on de-indexing or down ranking in the search results.

      I will give them a try.
      You should try Angela & Paul backlinks or my Nuclear Link Booster, High PR links tends to rank better.

      Linkvana is powerful and very good for long term SEO effort, however, if you want to see result faster, get Angela backlinks - Higly recommended!
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

        You should try Angela & Paul backlinks or my Nuclear Link Booster, High PR links tends to rank better.

        Linkvana is powerful and very good for long term SEO effort, however, if you want to see result faster, get Angela backlinks - Higly recommended!
        I was a subscriber to Angla's backlink service but never got around to using it because it seems so labor intensive. Do you outsource it?

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Raphael1
    I heard about Linkvana - probably good but also pricy (I also read some not so cool reviews on other forums) - SEO is a lot about automisation and outsourcing -> we outsource Angelas Link stuff to some of our indian guys (however we noticed that this method is not working that good anymore, cause there to many Id*ots that just spam these sites, so that the owners get pissed and turn the links no follow) - Link Juicer which does pretty much the same like Linkvana, BMD for Bookmarking (not to much so it is not to spammy)...

    I also like the list from kkchoon - the key is to make it relevant / look natural and high power links
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by Raphael1 View Post

      I heard about Linkvana - probably good but also pricy (I also read some not so cool reviews on other forums) - SEO is a lot about automisation and outsourcing -> we outsource Angelas Link stuff to some of our indian guys (however we noticed that this method is not working that good anymore, cause there to many Id*ots that just spam these sites, so that the owners get pissed and turn the links no follow) - Link Juicer which does pretty much the same like Linkvana, BMD for Bookmarking (not to much so it is not to spammy)...

      I also like the list from kkchoon - the key is to make it relevant / look natural and high power links
      I will check out Link Juicer, so thanks for mentioning it. Have you yourself used them? If so, is Link Juicer more or less work than Link Vana. I've been using NextGenLinks for a while now too.

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author sammoro
        I new to 'participating' in the forum and find this thread invaluable. I've just upped my game and started taking a more serious and thoughtful approach to site building so thanks for the info here.

        One question I have is about my plan for content for my LV or 1WL. I've taken over a large advice related forum with thousands (and thousands) of posts. This includes article style submissions from members and some great topics.

        Since this is the site I want to create new backlinks for (in the beginning), I'm planning to use relevant posts or portions of them as the articles I submit. I mean, the content is already there, natural and original. Seems like a no-brainer to me but I'd be interested in feedback. The site already has a large number of backlinks but I want to create new and better targeted ones

        Again, awesome thread and really helped me understand what I should consider when creating backlinks.
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        • Profile picture of the author HarrisAndrea
          I use freetrafficsystem and it works nicely for me. I think its similar with the concept of 1waylinks but it offers a free subscription which is nice.
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          • Profile picture of the author magentawave
            Originally Posted by ppaamm View Post

            I use freetrafficsystem and it works nicely for me. I think its similar with the concept of 1waylinks but it offers a free subscription which is nice.
            A couple questions about freetrafficsystem please...

            1) Are you still using their free system or did you upgrade to their $47.00 per month service?

            2) If you already have your articles written, how much work is it to use their system?

            3) Will you lose your backlinks if you stop using their system like you do with a few other backlinking services?

            Thanks
            Steve
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            • Profile picture of the author The Expert
              Steve,

              I use FTS myself. Your question as to how long it takes to use it is difficult to answer.

              The biggest issue is how you spin your articles. If do three re-writes on every sentence then it takes about 3 times as long to spin the article as to write the original (if you wrote it yourself that is). If you only rewrite the first and last sentence of each paragraph three times (and the entire first paragraph and last paragraph), or if you only do two rewrites of every sentence then it takes about twice as long to spin the article as to create the original.

              Dropping the spun content into the system and then inserting your link positions takes another 10 minutes and checking off the blogs you want to distribute to takes 5-10 minutes.

              I'm sure it's like anything else...you get faster as you do it more.
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              • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

                Steve,

                I use FTS myself. Your question as to how long it takes to use it is difficult to answer.

                The biggest issue is how you spin your articles. If do three re-writes on every sentence then it takes about 3 times as long to spin the article as to write the original (if you wrote it yourself that is). If you only rewrite the first and last sentence of each paragraph three times (and the entire first paragraph and last paragraph), or if you only do two rewrites of every sentence then it takes about twice as long to spin the article as to create the original.

                Dropping the spun content into the system and then inserting your link positions takes another 10 minutes and checking off the blogs you want to distribute to takes 5-10 minutes.

                I'm sure it's like anything else...you get faster as you do it more.
                Do you take articles you already have on your site and drop them into their article spinner? Are you using FTS's free service or did you upgrade to their $47 per month service?

                Thanks
                Steve
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                • Profile picture of the author The Expert
                  Do you take articles you already have on your site and drop them into their article spinner? Are you using FTS's free service or did you upgrade to their $47 per month service?
                  I upgraded to the paid service. I don't ever use the same content that I have on my sites for article distribution. I have other, low quality articles done up cheap which I'll then spin and drop into the various services.
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                  • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                    Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

                    I upgraded to the paid service. I don't ever use the same content that I have on my sites for article distribution. I have other, low quality articles done up cheap which I'll then spin and drop into the various services.
                    So the only purpose for spinning the "low quality" articles and posting them to multiple article directories was to get the backlinks to your sites, right?

                    Is FTS's article spinner decent?

                    And does anyone know how FTS's service differs from a million other article spinning/posting type sites like Unique Article Wizard (Unique Article Wizard - Submit Unique Content to Hundreds of Websites) for example?

                    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    I believe linkvana is the best in terms of link power!

    The linkjuicer is bookmarking backlinks, similar to trafficbug, but I prefer trafficbug! You will receive better price when you join 30 days challenge. I am still testing linkjuicer, still not see significant result yet, it is just too soon to tell.

    Trafficbug gives you better value, and you can post unlimited links??
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    • Profile picture of the author anwar001
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      I believe linkvana is the best in terms of link power!

      The linkjuicer is bookmarking backlinks, similar to trafficbug, but I prefer trafficbug! You will receive better price when you join 30 days challenge. I am still testing linkjuicer, still not see significant result yet, it is just too soon to tell.

      Trafficbug gives you better value, and you can post unlimited links??
      Did you experience any success with trafficbug? How long have you been using it and did it work at getting rankings for competitive keywords?
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      • Profile picture of the author samony
        Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

        Did you experience any success with trafficbug? How long have you been using it and did it work at getting rankings for competitive keywords?
        I tested traffic bug on a dozen of sites for 4 months. It was complete waste of time. It's not in the same category as other link-building tools mentioned in this thread.
        Cheers,
        S.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ehsan_am
    Thelink juicer does much more than Trafficbug. It bookmarks the bookmarks and posts on blogs and then creates link wheels to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      I'm going to say that The Link Juicer is my #1 link building tool right now.

      Reason is that it's 100% automated after you set up a campaign, so if you get busy it's ALWAYS continuing to build a baseline of links to your site AND it does it in a multi-layered, linkwheel format!

      I use other services as well and am a firm believer that the more you can afford the better. The more ways you can get links the more 'noise' you create in your overall link profile which makes you look more diverse and reduces footprints.
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  • Profile picture of the author pauljeaston
    I have success with one way links too...cool tool
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  • Profile picture of the author steveniam
    For backlinking I have used the following:

    (1) Linkvana - use it for about 6 months but unsubscribing recently (too costly)
    (2) NextgenLinks - have use it for about 9 months as it is quite competitively priced
    (3) Social Bookmarking 101 - About 3 months
    (4) Linkjuicer - About a month
    (5) Angelina and Paul - quite a number of months
    (6) Free Traffic System - almost a year
    (7) Other freelance services on and off

    Seriously I do not know which one really works but just want to make sure my backlinks come from various sources to make it natural so as to avoid any Google slaps.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      Is FTS's article spinner decent?
      The system itself does not have a spinning tool. They have one that they recomment, but I use Power Article Rewriter myself. The spyntax that Power Article Rewriter produces is not in the format which FTS uses, so I have to drop it into notepad and do two quick find-n-replace runs before inserting it into the sites.

      All of these sites themselves are very similar in nature FTS. FTS has a few "fancy" features for pro members which I like. In the end, it's like steveniam said, you want to use as many tools to get your links out on as many networks as possible.

      In the end this has you getting a bunch of links across tons of different IP addresses...which is very important.

      I think it should be the goal of every IMer to get a site setup that produces about $800 p/month which will be dedicated to funding as many of these tools as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by steveniam View Post

      For backlinking I have used the following:

      (1) Linkvana - use it for about 6 months but unsubscribing recently (too costly)
      (2) NextgenLinks - have use it for about 9 months as it is quite competitively priced
      (4) Linkjuicer - About a month
      Out of these 3 services, which would you recommend most?

      Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author suncit
        Great Thread, I've learned allot, now I got some homework to do. Was going with UAW but have since changed my mind. Do all of the previously mentioned tools allow you to control the rate your links are built? Cause I know you can set the number of articles distributed per day in the UAW control panel.

        Again great thread, thanks for the education.
        Garth
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          Just don't get anything that will erase all your one way back links if or when you stop subscribing to it.

          Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOArbiter
    Originally Posted by sree94 View Post

    Hey,

    Can anybody tell me the difference between 1WayLinks.net from Jon Leger and Linkvana?

    I am currently a Linkvana subscriber. The price is very steep, and even though my sales are up since I bought, most of my traffic is coming from EzineArticles

    I would like something a bit more reasonable
    I personally would not recommend LinkVana. I haven't used 1WayLinks.net.

    I don't want to say anything negative about the service. However, there is a big time committment in terms of writing the blog posts. This wasn't an issue for us, as we outsource.

    However, we setup google alerts to monitor our SEO and we happen to see several of the sites\blogs in the linkvana network that our links ended up on.

    They were extremely simple, very ugly wodpress sites. They had zero page rank, even though based on the archives the sites were up for at least a year or more, which means the sites had absolutely no link building done.

    Anyway, because of the lack of page rank (page rank IS important when it comes to the sites\pages your links are on), we stopped using the service.

    They are obviously making some money and have quite a few people using their service, so I don't understand why they don't hire a team of outsourcers to promote the sites, and make them look like real blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
    I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer
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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by macchiavelli View Post

      I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer
      Yikes!
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    • Profile picture of the author blue_sky
      Originally Posted by macchiavelli View Post

      I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer
      is there an update to this post?
      Linkvana def leaves a "footprint" in terms that you can spot the short postings easily
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanvroman
    I use both 1waylinks and Linkvana successfully. Both are good for their own reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author pinewinds8
    Hey Daniel, what about your own free 3-way links service? How does IT compare to Leger's and Linkvana? I use your service on a couple of my sites. It shows me that my link quantities are growing everyday, but it does not appear that google sees them at all. I would love to hear your response.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post


    With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice ....
    Really?

    According to LV's own sales page, a blog in their network must only meet 1 of 3 three criteria:

    (1) PR of 2-5
    (2) aged (I think 6+ years); OR
    (3) 1000+ backlinks.

    According to this, a blog could be in their network with PR of 0 and zero backlinks, but is 7 years old. For that kind of juice, you might as well just buy your own expiring domains from GoDaddy.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author TheChanger
      Great thread!

      I am going to give 1waylinks.net a go. I will post my results
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        I don't remember the specifics of 1waylinks.net at the moment, but just make sure its not the kind of deal where when you stop paying for it you lose all your backlinks.

        Steve



        Originally Posted by Gordon Hay View Post

        Great thread!

        I am going to give 1waylinks.net a go. I will post my results
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  • Profile picture of the author ursimrankhanna
    Hi. such a nice and help full post.thx for share.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjnr7522
      I've been considering 1wayLinks.net by Leger and LinkVana. The price of LinkVana scares me, though. It's high. Leger's service is more affordable. However, I believe Leger has integrity. I once emailed him and he sent me a free copy of his Instant Article Writing software 2.0. It was good for its time. I always thought that was very generous of him. With so many IM guys trying to fleece people w/ crap products, for someone to GIVE me something made an impression. I use his IAW3 now and love it.

      I'm also considering another service too, buildmyrank.
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Just don't subscribe to any backlinking service where you will lose all your backlinks if/when you cancel your subscription. I made that mistake once.


        Originally Posted by greschke363 View Post

        I've been considering 1wayLinks.net by Leger and LinkVana. The price of LinkVana scares me, though. It's high. Leger's service is more affordable. However, I believe Leger has integrity. I once emailed him and he sent me a free copy of his Instant Article Writing software 2.0. It was good for its time. I always thought that was very generous of him. With so many IM guys trying to fleece people w/ crap products, for someone to GIVE me something made an impression. I use his IAW3 now and love it.

        I'm also considering another service too, buildmyrank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fking
    is it still any good? 1waylinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author juxter
    I have been considering 1waylinks, but am not sure how it works. Right now, I have four blogs in different niches. Can I add all four to the network or even more as they are created?

    LJ
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Just make sure to NOT choose any backlink plan where if you stop paying the monthly fee that you will lose all your backlinks. I did that once - BIG mistake!

      Steve



      Originally Posted by juxter View Post

      I have been considering 1waylinks, but am not sure how it works. Right now, I have four blogs in different niches. Can I add all four to the network or even more as they are created?

      LJ
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      • Profile picture of the author Rita
        Best thing is invest to buy 10 hogh PR domain and build your own backlink system. It works
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        • Profile picture of the author Fking
          Originally Posted by Rita View Post

          Best thing is invest to buy 10 hogh PR domain and build your own backlink system. It works
          how far you think you would go with 10 links?
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