How much can i charge for a Seo service

by Beka
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There is this dentist in my local city that got a new website for his Dentist services. But i noticed that his website is not ranked on the main keyword. The main keyword has 260 searches per month, and no competition at all. I know that i can get atleast get 8 quality backlinks. and i am certian that i can rank his website to top 3 in couple of weeks.

The dentist takes $400 dollars, per hour. i mean if his website is ranked on google he will get atleast 100 new visitors that are looking for a dentist. mininum 10 people will choose his services, because he is the only dentist with a website in my local city.

This means minimum 5 hours of extra work for him. $2000 and $24000 a year.

So my question is:

If i can promise the dentist, 100 new visitors to his website, and mininum 10 new customers per month.

How much can i charge the dentist for my Seo service?

I want to give him a offer, but i have no idea what to charge.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Technically, if his site converted at those ratios, it is worth a lot more to him than that. Most of those new patients are not only going to come in once and never return. They'll be patients for years. On top of that there are probably related keywords that he will rank for too, bringing in more traffic.

    You are going to get price suggestions all over the place here. Some are going to say around $100/month. Others will tell you $1000-$1500/month.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Technically, if his site converted at those ratios, it is worth a lot more to him than that. Most of those new patients are not only going to come in once and never return. They'll be patients for years. On top of that there are probably related keywords that he will rank for too, bringing in more traffic.

      You are going to get price suggestions all over the place here. Some are going to say around $100/month. Others will tell you $1000-$1500/month.
      I am pretty sure it will convert more than that, because it is a student city. and people ask me all the time for a good dentist. The first thing they do is to look for a dentist on google.

      And you are right the pasients will come back, and if someone has some really bad teeth than it is a jackpot for the dentist
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Don't promise anything while pitching your services to the dentist. Just give him examples of how much money he could make if he lets you SEO his site to the top 3 in Google.

    As for the amount you should charge, don't ask for a ridiculous amount of money. Ask for an amount that is worth the amount of money, time, and effort it will take to get his site to the top 3 (you should know this beforehand).
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    • Profile picture of the author davidfern76
      Originally Posted by fieldomobify99 View Post

      For SEO services to get rank on Google first page it should be month amount $500 to $700 is good prize and a normal prize (not high or not low).
      I agree with this, but it honestly depends on how good you are with SEO. If you think you're able to do what you say, charge around 500 - 1000. Make sure not to be too expensive though as he may be put off by the price.
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      • Profile picture of the author sggl
        $500 a month is a fair price

        by the way, where are you planning to get those backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author Beka
          Originally Posted by sggl View Post

          $500 a month is a fair price

          by the way, where are you planning to get those backlinks?
          There is free webiste services like yellow pages that, find dentist for you in the local area. I will contact them to update the dentists information. They have his Info there but now link to his website.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by Beka View Post

            There is free webiste services like yellow pages that, find dentist for you in the local area. I will contact them to update the dentists information. They have his Info there but now link to his website.
            How About

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  • Profile picture of the author pd
    I think hourly price is good for Client. And try to send weekly report to clients. So they can understand the progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trollfarie
    It sounds like you can do great things for this dentist. Good eye!
    I would charge an hourly rate for this type of service. I have charged around $40 per hour.
    You shouldn't promise him exact numbers, though. Give him an estimate of what should happen. If you promise exact numbers, and then fall short, your dentist may want his money back and then you will be out a lot of work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    If it's as easy to rank as you have suggested.

    Why don't you just build, optimize and rank a test page of your own. Then you will know eactly how easy it is and how much traffic it will potentially create.

    You could always redirect the test page later.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      If it's as easy to rank as you have suggested.

      Why don't you just build, optimize and rank a test page of your own. Then you will know eactly how easy it is and how much traffic it will potentially create.

      You could always redirect the test page later.
      That sounds like an great idea, but i am not sure if a can get the backlinks for the test page, but this is something i will try. it will be easier sell to the dentist to
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  • Profile picture of the author KMalo
    Why would you want to get involved in SEO provision when you're making $600 per week working less than 2 hours a day, according to your signature.

    Originally Posted by Beka View Post

    There is this dentist in my local city that got a new website for his Dentist services. But i noticed that his website is not ranked on the main keyword. The main keyword has 260 searches per month, and no competition at all. I know that i can get atleast get 8 quality backlinks. and i am certian that i can rank his website to top 3 in couple of weeks.

    The dentist takes $400 dollars, per hour. i mean if his website is ranked on google he will get atleast 100 new visitors that are looking for a dentist. mininum 10 people will choose his services, because he is the only dentist with a website in my local city.

    This means minimum 5 hours of extra work for him. $2000 and $24000 a year.

    So my question is:

    If i can promise the dentist, 100 new visitors to his website, and mininum 10 new customers per month.

    How much can i charge the dentist for my Seo service?

    I want to give him a offer, but i have no idea what to charge.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by Trollfarie View Post

      It sounds like you can do great things for this dentist. Good eye!
      I would charge an hourly rate for this type of service. I have charged around $40 per hour.
      You shouldn't promise him exact numbers, though. Give him an estimate of what should happen. If you promise exact numbers, and then fall short, your dentist may want his money back and then you will be out a lot of work.
      Yeah, maybe i can promise like, top 5 on google

      Originally Posted by fieldomobify99 View Post

      For SEO services to get rank on Google first page it should be month amount $500 to $700 is good prize and a normal prize (not high or not low).
      But some keywords are worth more than others?


      Originally Posted by KMalo View Post

      Why would you want to get involved in SEO provision when you're making $600 per week working less than 2 hours a day, according to your signature.
      Why would i be satisfied with only $ 600 per week?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Beka View Post

        Why would i be satisfied with only $ 600 per week?
        I think the point was not to be satisfied with $600 per week.

        I think their point was if you really are making $600 each week working only 2 hours per week, why not work 4 hours per week and make $1200, or really strain yourself and work 6 hours per week to make $1800?
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        • Profile picture of the author Beka
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          I think the point was not to be satisfied with $600 per week.

          I think their point was if you really are making $600 each week working only 2 hours per week, why not work 4 hours per week and make $1200, or really strain yourself and work 6 hours per week to make $1800?
          The point here is, how much i can charge for an seo service.
          I can got an idea that i know it will work, and i want to take action on it. And i am asking this great forum and great people for advise.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Beka View Post

            The point here is, how much i can charge for an seo service.
            I can got an idea that i know it will work, and i want to take action on it. And i am asking this great forum and great people for advise.
            The point is this is an open forum and if people want to comment on anything they can. Its also a point that the credibility of people in their various claims determines if they even want to help any poster. No command performances here on this "great forum" with "great people".
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            • Profile picture of the author Beka
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              The point is this is an open forum and if people want to comment on anything they can. Its also a point that the credibility of people in their various claims determines if they even want to help any poster. No command performances here on this "great forum" with "great people".

              Thank you for the information
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    Why should you be charged on an hourly basis? Makes no sense to me, especially after you have ranked him, there will be nothing to do anymore.

    You have to make it smart however, if you build backlinks you cannot control he will soon cancel the service and still profit from great rankings. If you have your own PBN or can rent backlinks you can offer him a "rank-until-you-go"-service
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      Why should you be charged on an hourly basis? Makes no sense to me, especially after you have ranked him, there will be nothing to do anymore.

      You have to make it smart however, if you build backlinks you cannot control he will soon cancel the service and still profit from great rankings. If you have your own PBN or can rent backlinks you can offer him a "rank-until-you-go"-service
      I think he will stay in business for a long time, but i great idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Beka View Post

    TThe dentist takes $400 dollars, per hour. i mean if his website is ranked on google he will get atleast 100 new visitors that are looking for a dentist. mininum 10 people will choose his services, because he is the only dentist with a website in my local city.

    thats not real world. Really WILDLY off.

    First google search numbers cannot be relied on like that.
    second unless there are no google places results other dentists not having a website does not mean you will get the business
    Third not all searches are to find a dentist - some already have a dentist in mind but want to see if there are other options or jsut get a baseline on soe prices.
    Fourth number one never gets all the click throughs


    I guess I must be the exception but I think the idea of charging the customer on what they make rather than what you do for them is meh....a little shady.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      thats not real world. Really WILDLY off.

      First google search numbers cannot be relied on like that.
      second unless there are no google places results other dentists not having a website does not mean you will get the business
      Third not all searches are to find a dentist - some already have a dentist in mind but want to see if there are other options or jsut get a baseline on soe prices.
      Fourth number one never gets all the click throughs


      I guess I must be the exception but I think the idea of charging the customer on what they make rather than what you do for them is meh....a little shady.
      I throw the numbers out so you can get an idea what my service will bring to the dentist.
      and how much i can charge for it. this is approximately numbers, so i can get an idea on what to charge for ranking the dentist website on google.

      I will charge based on the value my service brings to the pasient. and not how much he makes
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Beka View Post

        I throw the numbers out so you can get an idea what my service will bring to the dentist.
        and how much i can charge for it.
        Besides this statement

        " I know that i can get atleast get 8 quality backlinks. and i am certian that i can rank his website to top 3 in couple of weeks."

        You are yet to tell us what is involved in you SEO services. Have you offered SEO before?
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        • Profile picture of the author Beka
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Besides this statement

          " I know that i can get atleast get 8 quality backlinks. and i am certian that i can rank his website to top 3 in couple of weeks."

          You are yet to tell us what is involved in you SEO services. Have you offered SEO before?
          No i have never, What i want to offer the dentist is, to rank his website to top 5 on google. and he does not have to pay, untill his website is ranked on 5 or higher.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Beka View Post

            No i have never, What i want to offer the dentist is, to rank his website to top 5 on google.
            Ranking is a result of SEO work done. What are you going to provide for the money you wish to charge? You do realize that if you do not know what you are doing you can actually hurt the customer's business in which case even charging zero would be too much
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            • Profile picture of the author Beka
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Ranking is a result of SEO work done. What are you going to provide for the money you wish to charge? You do realize that if you do not know what you are doing you can actually hurt the customer's business in which case even charging zero would be too much
              I am going to optimize his website so people can find his services.


              I know i can get his website banned from google, if i do some shady backlinking but, i am not going to do that..


              I will get 8 backlinks from websites similiar to yellow pages, these are free websites that help people find dentists in their local area. Not only will that help me rank his website, but he will also get referalll traffic from them to. I will contact them by phone or email

              I will rank one of his pages, targeting the keyword that has most searches per month,

              end result 5 or better rank on google on that typical keyword.

              Is there any thing else i could do for the dentist?
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    • Profile picture of the author deezn
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      thats not real world. Really WILDLY off.

      First google search numbers cannot be relied on like that.
      second unless there are no google places results other dentists not having a website does not mean you will get the business
      Third not all searches are to find a dentist - some already have a dentist in mind but want to see if there are other options or jsut get a baseline on soe prices.
      Fourth number one never gets all the click throughs


      I guess I must be the exception but I think the idea of charging the customer on what they make rather than what you do for them is meh....a little shady.
      On the flipside Mike, what they make is also in the calculation of what you do for them. It's just one variable of course (competition, etc.) but it's in the formula. I've been quoted $50,000 and $5,000 a month from an SEO company for a website and ongoing SEO/marketing.

      Outrageous right? Then I see a successful PI lawyer, a guy who is smart at marketing, leave another expensive website company for this company. This is a guy I've travelled to GKIC conferences with. He knows his marketing.

      These are guys trying personal injury $1 million cases with $330,000 - 400,000 fees (or better yet settling them). Wrongful death cases are even more sometimes.

      So what they make, is part of the formula of what you do for them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by deezn View Post

        So what they make, is part of the formula of what you do for them.
        Deez Jacking up the price merely because the client makes more money is unethical. You can't honestly charge a hundred dollars an hour and say oh its two because you are a lawyer. Can you provide additional services or customized services for a lawyer that justify higher prices? Yes but this OP has stars in his eyes based on what the prospective customer makes, has never done any SEO for anyone before and his stated strategy will be getting 8 links from free sites.

        I await the day when office related stores have price tags depending on what your profession is. If you say hey a client can afford more then you should provide more not merely change the price based on what he earns.
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        • Profile picture of the author deezn
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Deez Jacking up the price merely because the client makes more money is unethical. You can't honestly charge a hundred dollars an hour and say oh its two because you are a lawyer. Can you provide additional services or customized services for a lawyer that justify higher prices? Yes but this OP has stars in his eyes based on what the prospective customer makes, has never done any SEO for anyone before and his stated strategy will be getting 8 links from free sites.

          I await the day when office related stores have price tags depending on what your profession is. If you say hey a client can afford more then you should provide more not merely change the price based on what he earns.
          But also part of the formula for charging for services is what the market will bear. And lawyers be jacking prices up because the stakes are so high. Like PPC for terms such as mesothelioma (insane!).

          If you are doing stuff not marketing related, like say, selling office products or IT Work, then yes I agree, you shouldn't be jacking up the price because the person makes more. If you're installing a network with 5 users, your price is your price.

          But when your product leads directly to cases that pay a lot, those services are going to ratchet up their prices. Lawyers are mostly adverse to marketing skills but with high lifetime customer value. If a person is good at lead generation, that person is going to get paid well because if the results are there, the lawyer next door is willing to bid higher on those services. It's just the nature of the beast not saying right or wrong, just what I see. That's why I'm learning it on my own so I don't have to pay these exorbitant amounts ($50,000 for a website?).

          I see your point, ethically. Sometimes reality doesn't line up with ethics because marketing vultures take lawyers' monies by the barrel every day
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  • Profile picture of the author KenL
    I can tell you what a big legit SEO company that operates nationwide charges. Three months ago, I was trying to get the seo business from a dentist in an urban city with a population appox. 80,000. in a large metropolitan area in California. I was just a tad late as she tells me she had just signed a contract with said seo comp. for $1200 a month. You can use that as a starting point of reference.

    Someone spending that kind of money, in most cases, will ask to see examples of your work, i.e, "Can you show me a dentist that you have ranked?" Prepare to have answers to question like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author dharamrajacme
    According to the keyword, page, description, we can charge for SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    First, you should not promise things you do not control, you can not know how many of the visitors will really become clients of the dentist.

    And if your claim becomes true and he makes this amount of money, he is not getting a free money, he is going to serve every patient for that money.

    You should be realistic and charge what you think your skills, time and effort is worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    To arrive at your minimum figure, always calculate your costs first. This includes the total hours you will have to invest to get the job done. Sounds basic, but a lot of people skip this and just pull a figure they like out of thin air.

    If you can get the job done in a few hours a week, for instance, then have your price reflect that. Then you can ask your satisfied customer for referrals down the road. It's generally better to have 5 clients instead of one if you can juggle them effectively. People die.

    On the other hand, for instance, if you really think you have the "special sauce," then sell that. But you had better deliver.
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    On the whole, you get what you pay for.

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  • Profile picture of the author ianeire
    Have you had a look at the website and on-site SEO? This will be very important too.

    Also, there are so many crappy websites out there that visitors will bounce from straight away. If the website does not look good, nobody will bother to use the contact information even, the bounce rate will be huge.

    Personally, I would not consider a service from a business with an awful looking site, even if they were at the top of Google.

    This all needs to be factored into your pricing, if it is extra work for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beka
      Originally Posted by ianeire View Post

      Have you had a look at the website and on-site SEO? This will be very important too.

      Also, there are so many crappy websites out there that visitors will bounce from straight away. If the website does not look good, nobody will bother to use the contact information even, the bounce rate will be huge.

      Personally, I would not consider a service from a business with an awful looking site, even if they were at the top of Google.

      This all needs to be factored into your pricing, if it is extra work for you.
      The website looks beutiful, and professional made.
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