Google sandbox 2014 - how long is it taking you to rank new sites now?

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I've been finding that it's taking forever for sites to rank now.

Are you guys finding the same thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michaelvb
    Yes, im trying to rank a new 'authority' website and it takes much longer then im used to.

    Wondering if more people experience the same!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dr los3
      Um, pretty quick for me, although i had the domain sitting for a little while, maybe 6months with nothing on it, put my first 20 articles about a month ago and just put out another 20 in the last couple days, they are up in the serps already, top 20 for the most of them.

      No backlinks were made, only basic social media was put out.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneyroad
    Originally Posted by hobokook View Post

    I've been finding that it's taking forever for sites to rank now.

    Are you guys finding the same thing?
    yes, similar for me
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  • Profile picture of the author devinesoul186
    It depends upon competition and the way you use to rank a site. These days you can not depend on sole seo activity like link building, you are also supposed to popularize a site in social media platform. Additionally, video promotion, promotion through pdf submission and info-graphics as well as providing some free stuff is very helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author stringerbell87
    For my local lead gen sites, it's taking about 3-5 months now to rank at the top of page 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
    I'm not having any problems ranking new websites. I started one about a month ago and have multiple page one rankings for decent comp keywords.

    Not sure I believe that a new sandbox was rolled out. My guess is the link building methods you are using are outdated.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    It does seem to he taking longer to rank sites. It also varies by niche and search volume, but domain age is def a factor in ranking new sites. Most likely a way for Google to try and stop some churn and burn methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    I use a 'lift' principle with my sites that works well...

    Long story short, write up your hero articles (the big wiki-style articles I've talked about) - those won't rank for a few months (90-95 days normally). Then tackle the hell out of every longtail keyword you can get your hands on. They don't have to be epic articles, sometimes a few hundred words is all that's required in some cases depending on the subject.

    Anyways, the longtails with no competition will dribble in traffic pretty quickly normally, 14-30 days from the published date.

    As far as I see it - who cares. If you can't invest 90 days of work in your site to begin with, maybe it's not worth making?
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    • Profile picture of the author imabigboy
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      I use a 'lift' principle with my sites that works well...

      Long story short, write up your hero articles (the big wiki-style articles I've talked about) - those won't rank for a few months (90-95 days normally). Then tackle the hell out of every longtail keyword you can get your hands on. They don't have to be epic articles, sometimes a few hundred words is all that's required in some cases depending on the subject.

      Anyways, the longtails with no competition will dribble in traffic pretty quickly normally, 14-30 days from the published date.

      As far as I see it - who cares. If you can't invest 90 days of work in your site to begin with, maybe it's not worth making?
      Just to add to this awesome post --> also internal link those longtail keyword articles up to your hero articles (in a silo structure). As your long tails get stronger, so will your main keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
        Originally Posted by imabigboy View Post

        Just to add to this awesome post --> also internal link those longtail keyword articles up to your hero articles (in a silo structure). As your long tails get stronger, so will your main keywords.
        That's common sense, no? Sorry - I just figured everyone knew that.

        But yes, I missed it in my initial post, so thank you for clarifying it. Really the entire internal link structure should be as strong as possible with various links within topic hubs.

        IE - If you have 25 posts about white fuzzy bears, they should all interlink in some way to each other with a majority of them linking to your hero post.

        Then if you have another 25 posts on black fuzzy bears, those should also interlink with most of them also linking to a hero post about black fuzzy bears.

        Or if you have a really strong hero article that handles fuzzy bears of all colors, hub out the 25 posts as described but then have a majority of the posts in both hubs link to the one hero article.

        That is all of course assuming that your hero post(s) have a conversion point in some way that pulls traffic into your sales funnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      I use a 'lift' principle with my sites that works well...

      Long story short, write up your hero articles (the big wiki-style articles I've talked about) - those won't rank for a few months (90-95 days normally). Then tackle the hell out of every longtail keyword you can get your hands on. They don't have to be epic articles, sometimes a few hundred words is all that's required in some cases depending on the subject.

      Anyways, the longtails with no competition will dribble in traffic pretty quickly normally, 14-30 days from the published date.

      As far as I see it - who cares. If you can't invest 90 days of work in your site to begin with, maybe it's not worth making?
      Purely out of curiosity, don't you deal with thin content penalties when you write a few 100 words per post, as I don't expect you put a ton of work into large amounts of small posts.

      I just received such message on a site that didn't receive any baclinks (just mention it cause some say it has to do with PBN links), I have no idea how common these type of manual penalties are.
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  • Profile picture of the author MentorTodd
    For me I am finding the longer the tail the faster the rank...of course good content etc. I guess about 2 months or less on average. Just don't get greedy and take a few extra moments with your keyword research!
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    • Profile picture of the author vinniffa
      I have an in development Authority website in the fitness niche. It has loads of competition, I know. BUt I'm worried because it's been 2 months now that I have 40.000 words of great quality content, and I don't see any long tail traffic. Later I've found out that my domain has been registered before, but it doesn't have any links that could indicate a penalty.

      Could it be normal for 40 articles of 1000 words do not show any long tail?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by vinniffa View Post

        I have an in development Authority website in the fitness niche. It has loads of competition, I know. BUt I'm worried because it's been 2 months now that I have 40.000 words of great quality content, and I don't see any long tail traffic. Later I've found out that my domain has been registered before, but it doesn't have any links that could indicate a penalty.

        Could it be normal for 40 articles of 1000 words do not show any long tail?
        As long as the domain doesn't have a history of spam I wouldn't worry about it, SEO takes time to rank pages.

        As you already said your in the fitness niche which is competitive, even some of the longtails will most likely show more competition than most other niches. Still doable, just takes time/work to make it happen.
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        • Profile picture of the author vinniffa
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          As long as the domain doesn't have a history of spam I wouldn't worry about it, SEO takes time to rank pages.

          As you already said your in the fitness niche which is competitive, even some of the longtails will most likely show more competition than most other niches. Still doable, just takes time/work to make it happen.
          Thanks for the answer. Well, I guess it's the competition. The domain have a japanese history (wouldn't go for it if saw it before), but it looks totally clean in moz, majestic, ahfers and google webmasters.. So I guess it's SEO work now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rooks N Kings
    It can take up to 6 months for a website on a newly purchased domain to 'settle down' in the rankings. (This is not an exact number) A way to combat this is by building a website on an expired domain that already has some age and links. Be very wary of expired domains. Be sure to perform a proper analyses of the domains link profile before buying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    I recently ranked a 7 page website of mine to page 1 for a 8,000+ searched term.

    Got the domain name on the 06-06-2014 and it hit page 1 just over the 3 month mark, but my link building process used guest posting, social bookmarking, directory submissions, very few article directories, publishing videos on video sharing sites, minimal blog commenting and that was about it, just takes time for the links to be index and pass link juice.

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  • Profile picture of the author iisark
    It depence - how useful your content is, how big is the competition, how many good links do you have, facebook,twitter...all matter. If you make things right you can start ranking very soon. One of my sites got indexed 5 -10 min after submitting to google but the site is good and useful.
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