Anyone noticing ranking drop today?

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Just wondering if anyone experiencing this? One of my competitors just drop about 10 positions today. I am surprise to see this because it is old and authoritative website with no PBN links.
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    A lot of my posts on my new tech site have moved up in rankings, Iv been using white hat SEO on all pages and seems to be working well.
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    • Profile picture of the author karismasand
      I notice too, one of my site was hit a few hours ago, maybe is releasing announced penguin today. Will see!
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

      A lot of my posts on my new tech site have moved up in rankings, Iv been using white hat SEO on all pages and seems to be working well.
      What do you mean by white hat? If you are posting links to your site, then that is not white hat. Google does not think of that as proper. You are supposed to wait for others to link to you naturally, otherwise you are using methods that Google does not approve of.
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  • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
    Yeah definitely seeing a movement this week.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmanD
    Nothing to report, here.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Yes I'm seeing a downward trend with my affiliate sites at the moment, however there were quite a few changes in the last weeks:

      1) I had a portion of domains deindex, though mostly weak domains my affiliate sites received quite a few links from exactly these sites so that could be a reason for the drop

      2) I replaced the homepage with a lengthy 2000 word article, however I heavily monetized that page with 15 affiliate links so maybe that has to do with it?

      3) I just started a new batch of link building for the whole set of sites so maybe it's just dancing of keywords before they move up again, a trend that I see quite often.

      Normally these Amazon sites of mine are a perfect indication of Google updates and such as they're always very stable but too much happened in the past weeks.

      Overall I do see a bit of a downward trend though most of my clients aren't affiliate ones, and it could have to do with the loss of some domains so still hard to say what's going on.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    After all the rank drop threads over the years you would think everything was deindexed by now.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      After all the rank drop threads over the years you would think everything was deindexed by now.
      The internet is now closed for business...
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

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        • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          What if a new pill comes out that doubles my penis size in 6 days? How will I know about it?
          I'll send you an email
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

            I'll send you an email
            right after he sends you the pill for shrinkage to half size

            That way it guaranteed to work.
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            • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              right after he sends you the pill for shrinkage to half size

              That way it guaranteed to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    I think this kind of inquiry is counterproductive, to be honest. Even if there is a major update, there could be 10 reasons why your competitor dropped and you didn't.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arowana
      I thought today's update was significant. It might be another panda but also be penguin that everybody is waiting for. After all this is SEO section...

      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      I think this kind of inquiry is counterproductive, to be honest. Even if there is a major update, there could be 10 reasons why your competitor dropped and you didn't.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
        Originally Posted by Arowana View Post

        I thought today's update was significant. It might be another panda but also be penguin that everybody is waiting for. After all this is SEO section...
        True, true, sorry. I just mean that it's impossible to know why they dropped unless you have access to their data. Could be anything.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
          Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

          True, true, sorry. I just mean that it's impossible to know why they dropped unless you have access to their data. Could be anything.
          I guess everyone in the whole SEO industry are too stupid to discover patterns in how Google ranks websites. Huh?

          If you have a ton of sites in your network and this bunch go down in ranking and this bunch goes up or stays the same you can kinda back engineer it.

          Just because you can't comprehend SEO doesn't mean the pro's in the SEO field can't. There are companies making millions of dollars in the industry.

          If they couldn't back engineer Google they'd be out of business.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelvv
    No, it not panda or penguin, it's general Algo updates daily.
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  • Profile picture of the author KiloWog
    I don't see anything... (UK/USA markets)
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  • Profile picture of the author mrehan
    Something is definitely going on. The PBN cleanup might have been the signal for the expected next Penguin update. In the recent past big G has been dealing in double blows with simultaneous Penguin and Panda updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweezeter
    I track quite a number of sites and don't see anything highly unusual. Maybe they are just testing a small part of the search results with the new penguin update?
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  • Profile picture of the author mralexanderca
    i am also noticing a drop in ranking for some of the keywords, interestingly not all. Unsure why because i dont think my seo guys did any PBNs.. or did they?
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  • Profile picture of the author npoint
    Nothink has changed here. Couple spots up, couple spots down, as usual.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by npoint View Post

      Nothink has changed here. Couple spots up, couple spots down, as usual.
      Aint that the truth. Nothink.

      Of course you know somewhere in a parallel forum, someone is asking if other sites
      are moving up.

      Nobody at the WF posts much about a massive move up. That means only 50% of the
      webmasters must post here, because the other 50% saw a rise in rankings.

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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    No changes for me neither.. It could be a normal Google Dance effect..
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      In addition to what I posted earlier in this thread about a set of 9 Amazon sites where I build a new batch of links, the homepages that I replaced with heavily monetized ones and a few deindexations of domains I took the 2 domains out of 9 that were affected much worse then the rest a bit closer under the loop:

      - Domain 1: Nothing to see there, bit stunned why it lost a lot of traffic as it's setup in an identical way as the 8 other ones

      - Domain 2: Which really had some huge drops, turns out to be a victim of a negative SEO campaign, all of a sudden 50 percent of links have the main keyword anchor text and in total it now has 5000+ links from about 350 referring domains opposed to links from about 50 domains that I placed myself.

      Part of the game I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Arowana View Post

      Thanks for that post, that might explain the smallish overall drops on my affiliate sites. At least small enough to not worry about too much.

      Seems instead of looking at the site as a whole it focuses more at the quality of individual pages, eg crappy 300-500 word reviews just meant as filler content won't cut it anymore.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Thanks for that post, that might explain the smallish overall drops on my affiliate sites. At least small enough to not worry about too much.

        Seems instead of looking at the site as a whole it focuses more at the quality of individual pages, eg crappy 300-500 word reviews just meant as filler content won't cut it anymore.
        Hey Niko-

        Use this affiliate link cloaker. It will completely mask your Aff links from Google. I installed it on a previously penalized Aff site and the traffic came back. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ed-google.html

        Also, based on my sites, article length doesn't matter so much. Within your article try asking questions and answering them. Then have links within the article going to subpages on your site. The whole silo thing. That lowers your bounce rate and increases time on site.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

          Hey Niko-

          Use this affiliate link cloaker. It will completely mask your Aff links from Google.
          I see at least one footprint in the HTML source code:
          • wp-content/plugins/elf-links/js/script.js?ver=3.9.2

          BTW, all that plugin is doing is using javascript/ajax code for the links which can be found for free by searching Google.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

          Hey Niko-

          Use this affiliate link cloaker. It will completely mask your Aff links from Google. I installed it on a previously penalized Aff site and the traffic came back. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ed-google.html

          Also, based on my sites, article length doesn't matter so much. Within your article try asking questions and answering them. Then have links within the article going to subpages on your site. The whole silo thing. That lowers your bounce rate and increases time on site.
          Totally forgot about cloaking these links indeed.

          Right now the homepage is so heavily monetized that all traffic go's straight away to Amazon so Google has no clue finding out how long visitors stay on my site so not sure how that matters here.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Seems instead of looking at the site as a whole it focuses more at the quality of individual pages, eg crappy 300-500 word reviews just meant as filler content won't cut it anymore.
        What's the plan now, create 10,000 word crappy reviews?

        Trust me, counting words isn't the problem. I don't even need to see your site/pages to know it's not the problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          What's the plan now, create 10,000 word crappy reviews?

          Trust me, counting words isn't the problem. I don't even need to see your site/pages to know it's not the problem.
          Lol then what you think the problem is? Bounce rate? Really isn't as bad as you think.

          The reason I mentioned crappy 300-500 word reviews is cause it's just a lap of text, no fancy layout, additional images, lists of features/specifications, sub headings, video's or anything that can spice up a page / make it more attractive to the visitors so that's on my to do list next time and thus the word count will likely increase.

          The content itself on this batch of sites is pretty decent and informative though, wait got to come back on that, second part of the article is all fluff talk about the company producing it, close to zero relevancy really.
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  • Profile picture of the author jony1
    Yes..i feel it..my Ranking drop 4-5 position. Any new update of GOOGLE.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rank Watch
    Maybe, he just got hit by Penguin Update 4.1. It is currently rolling out. For more details you can check out - Panda 4.1 -- Google's 27th Panda Update -- Is Rolling Out via @sniply
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  • Profile picture of the author Masondavis
    Yeah is definitely seeing a movement this week. And my ranking drop this week some time has come up and some he goes away from the first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author designbala
    Just 2 position drop back. I am also noticing seeing drop in ranking for some keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author olamiko
    Originally Posted by Arowana View Post

    Just wondering if anyone experiencing this? One of my competitors just drop about 10 positions today. I am surprise to see this because it is old and authoritative website with no PBN links.
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  • Profile picture of the author skjaat
    this week Google new penguin update so think about your ranking and seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    Originally Posted by Arowana View Post

    Just wondering if anyone experiencing this? One of my competitors just drop about 10 positions today. I am surprise to see this because it is old and authoritative website with no PBN links.
    Certainly due to panda update which is currently being rolled.
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  • Profile picture of the author nirmeister
    There was a definitely Algo Change, I see it on almost 20 clients of mine, especially local clients, oh well... more work now
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  • Profile picture of the author Rank Watch
    Noticed some significant ranking recoveries for the web properties that we track.
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  • Profile picture of the author SanwalC
    Yeah i have also seen a lot of movement lately. Hmm don't know why though
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  • Profile picture of the author gsuaaron
    I dropped 5 spots over the weekend (oct. 24-25). Site has been going strong for 2 years. Trying to figure out why.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hemanth Malli
    Originally Posted by Arowana View Post

    Just wondering if anyone experiencing this? One of my competitors just drop about 10 positions today. I am surprise to see this because it is old and authoritative website with no PBN links.

    Hi Arowana,

    Yeah even my website also get effected by Penguin Update though we are following Google Guidelines. Do you have any other options to recover?
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