Big Websites Pagerank ?

Page rank depends on that how much valuable your site to Google. if u have visitor then obviously your site will get good page rank but if u have no more visitor then You have to make some good pr 1/higher back-link to develop your seo & also page rank also try get more visitor . As i know Google Analise after every 3-4 mounts for page rank so do not up-sate wait for next analysis

Right - so you will receive 100s of opinions - we have the facts - but they almost always go over everyones heads. It comes down to one very simple point - number of visitors generated per $1 of spend. So small business is single digits - corporates are 25-30 - if you can make Google see you are generating 25-30 visitors per $1 they will index and send you mroe traffic.

We have seen examples of this from high-end consultants who can have a new Magento site indexed and ranking next to Amazon, Saks, Hugo Boss for the same short tail keyword products in weeks with zero pr - zero social media - zero marketing.

The problem, small business doesn't have access to the technology to do it as you need to understand how the largest corporations work - they achieve 1,000% efficiency gains - so we use a hosting architecture designed by SAP consultants. We put a new Magento site on it - 24 organic visitors per $1 - ppc will get you 1-2!!!

You can do it with business resource - but you need a lot of people to generate the content, backlinks. The automation tools - Google knows where they are so you may get away with it short term - but they will punish you eventually. If you go above 30 per $1 - you will be delisted. All very simple.

Just to help you here are the figures. 2,000 visitors per month of which you pay $0.50/click for 1,000 visitors (the other 1,000 are organic, social media, etc) so $500/mth marketing. You get a 1% conversion rate so 20 orders at $127 per order is $2,500 revenue - at 30% gross profit margin is $750 so you are basically working to pay Google or Facebook!

The average conversion is 2.5% but as a startup small business you generally achieve 7-10x lower, if you are experienced/established and/or lucky you may get 3-5x lower conversions (depending on industry of course).

And there is the perfect example of the lack of understanding how the corporates work - who in turn control the market - the top 5% generate 50% of all online revenue. The consultants spent 1yr explaining it to us - which again is why they can have a zero pr site ranking up next to the corporates in weeks - which was the original question - we saw the end result. When you have worked on $10s millions projects with companies like L'Oreal & Renault let us know - we can then have a real conversation about how it works.

Did you check the domain age of this website? Maybe this domain was created after the last page rank update which was on 6th Dec, 2013.

That's the problem with small business, they are clouded by the details and can't see the overall picture - it doesn't mean you can't be successful - it is just much more difficult due to the lack of efficiency. Some consultants kindly spent time explaining it to us, we are passing that information on, it has no impact on us whether it is understood or not - it's just the way it works.

That's the problem with lack of understanding and seeing the big picture, always trying to discredit things they don't know. So we would say can you explain how a small business we just put on to the corporate level hosting architecture built by SAP consultants is achieving 24 organic visitors per $1 with zero marketing - zero social media - zero ppc - close to companies like Amazon and Saks and 7-10x what you could achieve with ppc.

The thing is we don't need or want an answer - everyone is always trying to pull a Jack or Queen, but when you work with SAP consultants who also use sme tools like Magento and work alongside Google - you get to have the Ace - and that's what counts!

So at a small business level we are actually not going to disagree or agree with you - simply because we see the bigger picture. The internet is global - you are competing with everyone from home based sites to Amazon - when you have the top down view everything is clear - at the small business level everything is cloudy - at which point we direct you to the 'birds management' image!!!

Again, back to the point we are making, focusing on pagerank is a minor detail in the big picture - but for small business they believe it is a major part. The question was actually incredibly simple - how does a large site work with a pr0 - and the answer is they know how corporate level technology integrates with business resource for high efficiency.

We will simplify it even further - honestly have no idea why but there you go. The OP is a top-down person - 95%+ will work from the bottom up. So a small business will at best generate 0-50% & 100-200% efficiency gains by using software/services. A mid-size business will be 300-500%, corporates will be 700-1,000%.

This means a corporate can do with one person what a small business needs 7-10people to do. How does that translate to pagerank, indexing, seo, ppc - simple Google directly -and- indirectly knows what sites fit at what level. So the consultants showed us a test Magento site with 30,000 or 250,000 products (they had two) ranking with pr0 next to Hugo Boss, Net-A-Porter first page within 6wks -only- using hosting architecture.

How is this possible, the architecture is derived from the architecture that Net-A-Porter and other top coporate sites use - it increases effienciency by 950% - Google thinks that a startup is a $multi-million company and ranks it accordingly - with zero pr0.

You can achieve the same with only business, backlinks, press releases, social media but you are going to need $10s to $100s thousands budget and a lot of resource. So it directly answers the question - the main problem is that no-one on the forums will have been the architects for $10s millions projects - and therefore have only cursory understanding how it all fits together at the corporate levels presuming that everything is purely quantitative rather than the actual approach which combines it with qualitative methods (corporate speak).

Always good, just shows that 99% only see what they want to see and work from bottom-up - interesting that Google switched to top-down a few years ago and that is now feeding in to the mainstream. The problem with all these is that Google haven't got to the weak players yet - hence the "it doesn't work that way" - we have already seen and been through it - Google will work its way down in its own good time!

Well, we're on the side of the top-down crowd (the absolute minority) with consultants backing it up having chargeouts of $1,000-4,000/day - a venture capital fund who built an architecture along the lines of Rocket Internet - and some vision to make enough to live - not survive.

Just as well we got out of the service provider market - they gave us the architecture to see if any smes could actually have some vision - turns out if you show small business 100-200% efficiency they become uncomfortable, 300-500% and they are completely lost, 700-1,000% and their heads start to spin. Then you just get the angry people who did it the hard way over many years from the bottom-up - so when someone says you can do it 7-10x faster - it's all out war!

On that note we're off for our caipirinha, it's Friday after all!!!

On goes the bot...

Well it doesn't matter anymore - it's all about to start!

Time to put it all in to perspective. So @benmarks confirmed to us that the largest Magento implementations are $2-5mil for ~$200mil revenue companies - we are working as part of a $2mil install - directly designed by SAP architects - the largest business automation suite implemented by most of the Fortune 500 as part of $10s-$100s millions projects - this project is a play thing for them!

The small business solutions with 100-200% efficiency are now starting to fail, the service providers have nothing more efficient to provide the retailers - Google are now directly and indirectly looking at increased efficiency to separate the real sites from the nonsense.

The installation guide http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...ml#post9554157 is small derivative from that project – they don’t mind us releasing it as it only provides 300% efficiency. We need to start the data loads to a 1mil Magento affiliate site derived from the architecture - haven't got around to it yet as wanted to wait for the faster second generation hosting to compliment Googles need for increased efficiency.

As the solutions are derived from SAP we have 300-500% and 700-1,000% efficiency - when the 300-500% stops working in the next year or two - we'll move up to the next level - small business providers don't have that - it causes confusion. Confusion breeds contempt.

The implementation company we work with via the venture capital fund owned by a hedge fund have stated the next recession will start within 12mths - it will be twice as damaging as 2008 - volatility will increase - trust will be number one - they have worked in the largest banks and had family lunches with billionaires.

So the comments about bots are closer to the truth, with up to 950% increased efficiency there’s no need for seo service providers when we can rank a site with just hands-off corporate hosting architecture. An example, consultants put a site on $2,000/mth hosting clusters, throttled it by 50% and the Google throttled the number of visitors they sent - put back to 100% and Google visitors numbers came back within a couple of days all at 25-30 visitors per $1 – now we can do the same for $700/mth with the second generation.

We don’t implement this for anyone unless they come and say they really want it – we have other things to do – and then we still have to seek approval - the forex market is coming back online after historic low volatility – which is actually where our concentration goes - which is why we need 950% automation – we don’t want to spend 40hrs/wk coercing Google or customers to visit commerce or affiliate sites which need another 40hrs/wk to maintain and grow.

So the contempt is all very understandable - if weak - but it doesn't change the simple fact - the small business solutions are starting to fail with the infrastructure surrounding them starting to implode. All you need to do is wait until Quarter1 2015 - the corporates will keep their 20-50% YoY gains on track directly fed by the small business inefficiencies. It’s no-ones fault – it’s just the way it works now.

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Well, the site is down for me.
So that could have something to do with it. How often does that happen?

there should be some change in URL recently which has affected its page rank,