Affiliate Sites #1 in UK, #2 in USA?

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Hmm,

Some of my affiliate sites are #1 on google.com when searching from the UK, but appear #2 when searching from a US proxy.

I don't get it, as none of my affiliate sites have links from .uk domains - so there's no definitive .uk association at all. If anything, they are optimized for USA rankings (including setting preferred country in webmaster tools), being hosted in the USA and having a generic .com TLD.

Anybody else experienced this?
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  • Profile picture of the author ppscslv
    There are many factors involved. Usually, social media shares have a heavy word in ranking...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Rankings vary by location. For example, your site may appear #1 in Washington and #2 in Chicago. When the same search is performed in 2 different countries, the results are even more likely to be different.

    If you aren't satisfied with your #2 ranking in Google US, you have to put more effort into optimizing your site. If I were you though, I wouldn't be worried about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

    Hmm,

    Some of my affiliate sites are #1 on google.com when searching from the UK, but appear #2 when searching from a US proxy.

    I don't get it, as none of my affiliate sites have links from .uk domains - so there's no definitive .uk association at all. If anything, they are optimized for USA rankings (including setting preferred country in webmaster tools), being hosted in the USA and having a generic .com TLD.

    Anybody else experienced this?
    Look who's asking for help here and to a rather simple question that this noob knows.

    The reason is simple, there is less competition in the UK searches versus US. Same reason its easier to rank for some local searches than international ones.

    Did your expert brain not know or think of this ?
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    • Profile picture of the author online only
      Originally Posted by mkgg View Post

      The reason is simple, there is less competition in the UK searches versus US. Same reason its easier to rank for some local searches than international ones.

      Did your expert brain not know or think of this ?
      That's BS. I have sites that are in top 3 for most of the keywords on US, but don't rank top 10 in UK, CA etc. Your logic doesn't seem to add up in this case.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    The level of competition in the UK is lower than the level of competition in the US for your target keyword just as mkgg said. Also, ranking factors differ slightly across different countries. Lastly, your site can just rank higher in the UK for an unexplained reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincentbre
    always log of from gmail when seacrching the position on google
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by Vincentbre View Post

      always log of from gmail when seacrching the position on google
      I can't get your idea at all... I believe you would like to say that LOCAL backlinks are important? Or maybe Google Maps or what?!?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kjacob Dalumpines
    Nope, google is using cookies or tracking. Google show the site that you visted numerous time that's why it getting rank #1 or #2. i recommend you to use some tracker tool such as: serpbook.com

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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

    Hmm,

    Some of my affiliate sites are #1 on google.com when searching from the UK, but appear #2 when searching from a US proxy.

    I don't get it, as none of my affiliate sites have links from .uk domains - so there's no definitive .uk association at all. If anything, they are optimized for USA rankings (including setting preferred country in webmaster tools), being hosted in the USA and having a generic .com TLD.

    Anybody else experienced this?
    Yes, all the time.

    Try searching in a Private Browser Window (FireFox has the option for example) this will have you logged out of Google and reduce the impact of your location.

    I don't trust any SERP I see unless it's in a Private Browser Window, Google does show different results based on where you are searching from etc.. Add to that the .co.uk results will have a local UK element, I own a number of .co.uk domains (live in the UK) and they tend to rank higher in Google.co.uk relative to Google.com, small boost for a domain from the country specific version of Google.

    If you are from the UK and making a Google search, makes sense to give UK websites a slight ranking boost, that's how Google works. I've always wondered if the flip side of this is harder to rank country specific domain in Google.com: so difficult to SEO test.

    Earlier this year was number 7-10 (it varied) in Google.co.uk for the AdSense search, in Google.com wasn't top 50. Lasted a few weeks, loads of impressions since it was top 10, but very little click through traffic since most people searching AdSense would be looking for the AdSense login page not going as low as the 5-10 search results.

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

      Yes, all the time.

      Try searching in a Private Browser Window (FireFox has the option for example) this will have you logged out of Google and reduce the impact of your location.

      I don't trust any SERP I see unless it's in a Private Browser Window, Google does show different results based on where you are searching from etc.. Add to that the .co.uk results will have a local UK element, I own a number of .co.uk domains (live in the UK) and they tend to rank higher in Google.co.uk relative to Google.com, small boost for a domain from the country specific version of Google.

      If you are from the UK and making a Google search, makes sense to give UK websites a slight ranking boost, that's how Google works. I've always wondered if the flip side of this is harder to rank country specific domain in Google.com: so difficult to SEO test.

      Earlier this year was number 7-10 (it varied) in Google.co.uk for the AdSense search, in Google.com wasn't top 50. Lasted a few weeks, loads of impressions since it was top 10, but very little click through traffic since most people searching AdSense would be looking for the AdSense login page not going as low as the 5-10 search results.

      David
      #1 I'm pretty sure Ice knows how to use Incognito Browsing

      #2 You lost me at 'AdSense'
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      • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
        Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

        #1 I'm pretty sure Ice knows how to use Incognito Browsing'
        You're on about the band right? The British acid jazz group?
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        • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
          Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

          You're on about the band right? The British acid jazz group?
          Wow lol now I'm completely lost!! Lol!!

          But sounds cool anyways! Big Pink Floyd fan here, as well as jazz
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      • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
        Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

        #1 I'm pretty sure Ice knows how to use Incognito Browsing

        #2 You lost me at 'AdSense'
        Thought the forum was for teaching those interested in SEO, maybe the OP does know about Private Browsing, doesn't mean everyone reading this post does and a paragraph of explanation helps those learning SEO techniques.

        Would appear point #2 suggests you could do with some SEO advice yourself.

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        • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
          Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

          Would appear point #2 suggests you could do with some SEO advice yourself.
          I know, I should really learn AdSense. I just hope my ROI won't dip in the red with competition outbidding me. That's why I think I'll go the Seo route.. like this forum section. Seo. Not AdSense. Eh.

          Besides, how can a simple answer about Google's frequent searches feature blow into a 4 paragraph report, ending with AdSense, which has completely different display functions than the Serps? Just wondering, Dave, as I sure could do with some of your wonderful SEO advice.. I'm all ears
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          • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
            Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

            I know, I should really learn AdSense. I just hope my ROI won't dip in the red with competition outbidding me. That's why I think I'll go the Seo route.. like this forum section. Seo. Not AdSense. Eh.
            OK, you did misunderstand, will simplify.

            Earlier this years when doing this search in Google.co.uk

            https://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=0...l=en&q=AdSense

            That would be searching for the word "AdSense", one of my articles (on a .co.uk domain) ranked in the top 10 (between 7th and 10th) for a few weeks.

            The same search in Google.com wasn't top 30. So ranking well in Google.co.uk, but not Google.com. This is quite normal for webmasters who own .co.uk domains.

            You'd think this would be a great top 10 SERPs, though this generated a lot of impressions (under Webmaster Tools Search Traffic), but not actual visitors (very low click through rate) because most users searching for the word AdSense are looking for the AdSense login page and don't look at what's ranking 7, 8, 9 and 10th.

            Hope that makes more sense now?

            BTW the one you bid on is AdWords, not AdSense.

            David
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

              OK, you did misunderstand, will simplify.

              Earlier this years when doing this search in Google.co.uk

              https://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=0...l=en&q=AdSense

              That would be searching for the word "AdSense", one of my articles (on a .co.uk domain) ranked in the top 10 (between 7th and 10th) for a few weeks.

              The same search in Google.com wasn't top 30. So ranking well in Google.co.uk, but not Google.com. This is quite normal for webmasters who own .co.uk domains.

              You'd think this would be a great top 10 SERPs, though this generated a lot of impressions (under Webmaster Tools Search Traffic), but not actual visitors (very low click through rate) because most users searching for the word AdSense are looking for the AdSense login page and don't look at what's ranking 7, 8, 9 and 10th.
              A little common sense go's a long way Dave, wish you had figured that out before you aimed to rank for it didn't ya
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            • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
              Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

              That would be searching for the word "AdSense"
              Well quotes sure make a world of difference, do they not?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Nic0 Who said I specifically targeted the one word AdSense?

    Targeted "AdSense Click Exchange" (without speech marks Jinx1221) and by luck was temporarily top 10 for AdSense in Google.co.uk.

    Jinx1221, I added the speech marks as you appeared to be a bit dim and was trying to highlight the word so you wouldn't misunderstand again. Well, seems you didn't click the Google AdSense search link which didn't include the speech marks.

    There are some really slow people on this forum!

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

      Nic0 Who said I specifically targeted the one word AdSense?

      Targeted "AdSense Click Exchange" (without speech marks Jinx1221) and by luck was temporarily top 10 for AdSense in Google.co.uk.

      Jinx1221, I added the speech marks as you appeared to be a bit dim and was trying to highlight the word so you wouldn't misunderstand again. Well, seems you didn't click the Google AdSense search link which didn't include the speech marks.

      There are some really slow people on this forum!

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