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Forum: Copywriting 5th October 2017, 10:06 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 536
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: Book: "Secrets of a Freelance Writer" — How are the fees/rates he discusses in 1988 so high in 2

This is all about Money Tolerance.

I've written extensively and made videos about this key limiting belief as it is so important.

What you think of as "a lot of money" has a huge impact on your...
Forum: Copywriting 7th July 2017, 06:39 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 397
Posted By GordonJ
Over complicating things.

Hi, I'm Joe Blow a consultant in business, financial and real estate markets. I help them make more money. Are you in one of these markets?

Let them know you can help THEM. You're focused on...
Forum: Copywriting 5th July 2017, 02:12 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 351
Posted By GordonJ
I did NOT find your thoughts helpful.

Most copywriters don't try to make anyone "fall" for anything, especially the good ones. Just MY opinion, but maybe bone up on your psychology AND your copywriting skills.

GordonJ

PS. You...
Forum: Copywriting 29th June 2017, 12:46 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 397
Posted By Princess Balestra
Re: Suggestions for writing a Personal Brand "elevator pitch"

Your question runs to 297 words.

Write it out again, 150.

Spruce, polish, clarify.

Whatever you got now, succinctify downta 100.

NAIL NAIL NAIL the SUPER KILLER IMPORTANT SHIT.
Forum: Copywriting 28th June 2017, 12:15 PM
Replies: 101
Views: 3,313
Posted By sethczerepak
Re: Is the Age of Copywriters Over?

This topic floats back up on this forum from time to time. Like a turd floating swirling back to the surface after a good flush. It's garbage. As long as people are buying things, you'll be able to...
Forum: Copywriting 28th June 2017, 12:08 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 674
Posted By Princess Balestra
Re: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but a smitten more...

Gotta figure the deal here is PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS.

Already we seen divergent approaches — alla which is cool cos the emergent wannabe fyooture happens out from this step on for evry contributor...
Forum: Copywriting 26th June 2017, 06:52 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 668
Posted By TrickyDick
Lightbulb Re: What problems do you face as a copywriter?

Unfortunately, you're solving a problem that has been solved.... right here... in Warrior Forum's Copywriting Forum you're posting in.... and in dozens of Facebook groups.

Also, your idea is...
Forum: Copywriting 24th June 2017, 10:08 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 674
Posted By GordonJ
You get the point!

Smitten is what 80% of so-called copywriters are in, a state of love of the idea of becoming a successful freelancer. You, and the others are absolutely right, and as someone who has spent over 50...
Forum: Copywriting 24th June 2017, 03:39 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 674
Posted By Princess Balestra
Re: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but a smitten more...

Jus' my luck to go on vacation as WF pitches a humdinger!

So I return home to discover my GordonJ light is flashin', my Angie C vuvuzela is soundin', an' butterflies been released from their...
Forum: Copywriting 17th June 2017, 08:51 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 674
Posted By GordonJ
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but a smitten more...

can be debilitating... making your copy weak and feeble.

Sorry to say, but, my advice for today's wannabee copywriters is DON'T read any of the classics or take any class, BECAUSE, you'll pick up...
Forum: Copywriting 23rd May 2017, 12:44 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 910
Posted By RickDuris
Re: How to write extremely seductive sales copy?

No. No. No.

As an affiliate marketer, you don't have to, you should not have to, write seductive sales copy.

Depending on the products you pick, that should have been done already. The product...
Forum: Copywriting 31st March 2017, 01:20 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 778
Posted By Cam Connor
Here Are 101 Ways To Get New Copywriting Clients...

If you're new or intermediate and you need to land some new clients, here are 101 ways to do just that.

Enjoy: https://copymonk.com/get-your-first-copywriting-client/

Heh, this one's...
Forum: Copywriting 22nd March 2017, 05:13 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 354
Posted By SARubin
Re: Question for a copy coach

Seriously, my friend, you're asking for an absolute answer to an abstract question.

It's like asking how long is the average time it takes to fill a container with water?

Questions like that...
Forum: Copywriting 21st March 2017, 06:00 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 384
Posted By Princess Balestra
RE: How to Promote your Copywriting on Instagram?

Instagram is a very nouveau vizyool medium, but imagry is eternal.

At riska bein' banned offa WF again, gotta say

TATTOO YR BONER
Forum: Copywriting 15th March 2017, 10:25 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 469
Posted By RickDuris
Re: [A Brain Teaser for Copywriters] Spin Something Old into Something New

Cool! Kind of reminds me of https://www.reddit.com/r/sixwordstories/
Forum: Copywriting 2nd March 2017, 06:38 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 1,047
Posted By GordonJ
I guess I didn't make this point clear.

Can't argue Rick, because I said the same thing.

Get and HOLD attention. AND lets get away from MARKET for a minute to TARGET (a PERSON)

Sure, happy satisfied customers all always great to...
Forum: Copywriting 2nd March 2017, 02:36 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 1,047
Posted By RickDuris
Re: Attention.

ANYBODY can get attention these days.

(Check out the new one-hit-wonder the "Cash Me Ouside" Girl as an example.)

It's KEEPING a market's attention that counts, in my humble opinion.

I defer...
Forum: Copywriting 23rd February 2017, 12:32 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 310
Posted By dburk
Re: Make your sales copy weed free!

Hi angiecolee,

Your last sentence really rings true to me.

There is an old time-tested saying in the advertising business:


Using the same language, expressions, and terminology that your...
Forum: Copywriting 12th January 2017, 11:47 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 506
Posted By colmodwyer
Re: What is a "true" benefit?

This has stuck in my memory for years, as a great example of a "deeper benefit" -- "Makes your skin more kissable."

From some skin cream ad.

Colm
Forum: Copywriting 30th December 2016, 03:29 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 444
Posted By Sean DeSilva
Re: How to know how much i am worth?

I'm of the view that you should allow your results to dictate your worth. The moment you can point back to a single successful client, you've established a clear, numbers based proposition for future...
Forum: Copywriting 25th December 2016, 02:12 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 444
Posted By art72
Re: How to know how much i am worth?

I agree with what Angie said... If you base your pricing on what you think others are willing to pay ( as I have a bad habit of doing) you'll often find by the end of the project you've undersold...
Forum: Copywriting 24th December 2016, 02:45 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 444
Posted By Alex Cohen
Re: How to know how much i am worth?

Base your fees on how much value you bring to the table.

And of course in your proposals (or conversations with prospective clients) be sure to establish your value.

Alex
Forum: Copywriting 21st December 2016, 06:29 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 87
Posted By Andrew Gould
Re: When reaserching for copy?

Why would you not charge them? It's part of the job, same as the writing.
Forum: Copywriting 7th December 2016, 11:37 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 539
Posted By GordonJ
7 Top Secret Niches full of EASY money..NO one ever talks about.

First, Angie is disqualified from this game. Because she knows a few of them

I have in front me, 7 industries that hire copywriters, even rank beginners, and will offer them contracts IF they...
Forum: Copywriting 7th December 2016, 09:39 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 343
Posted By Kay King
Re: does my site make you want to do business with me?

That sentiment runs though most of your threads - while the others are over the top about your success and how you can teach others to get leads and on and on. Leads are not sales as you have...
Forum: Copywriting 7th December 2016, 08:28 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 343
Posted By yukon
Re: does my site make you want to do business with me?

No offense but you would probably do better If you didn't say anything. I mean every single bit of your sales pitch.

Right now you're a fiverr gig that wants to pay clients. You can't go any...
Forum: Copywriting 5th December 2016, 11:55 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By Mark Pescetti
Re: How much are you charging?

The reason copywriters can charge a LOT of money for a script or sales letter is simple:

You provide an ROI.

Sounds like you don't have that knowing... and confidence, yet.

And that's fine....
Forum: Copywriting 3rd December 2016, 08:32 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 745
Posted By kandabrewer
Re: Freelancers working for pennies seems to be on the rise...and it needs to stop.

You get what you pay for.

There are always going to be people who charge low rates because there will always be 1) people who are just starting in the field, 2) people who value quantity over...
Forum: Copywriting 1st December 2016, 08:55 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 519
Posted By Kay King
Re: The Oxford comma. Are you a fan?

I began reading books at age 3 and haven't stopped since.

I began writing "stuff" at age 6 ....

The ONLY time I had less than an "A" in any English or Literature or Composition class was in...
Forum: Copywriting 1st December 2016, 08:42 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 519
Posted By Oziboomer
Re: And here we are. Debate all you want. Most would rather get paid.

I'm here to learn and share but it is a bit like the Catholic Church in a modern society.

There are a lot of preachers and many of those don't even show up even once a week and the echoes bounce...
Forum: Copywriting 30th November 2016, 10:58 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 519
Posted By GordonJ
And here we are. Debate all you want. Most would rather get paid.

This is the reason why this forum is getting harder and harder to contribute to.

How do you feel about apostrophes, when turning I am into I'm?

I guess if you are trying to persuade English...
Forum: Copywriting 29th November 2016, 07:53 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 265
Posted By Oziboomer
Re: Is copywriting actually creative?

Almost like a slave?

For many people comparing writing to slavery might be offensive.

To enjoy the freedom of choice.

To enjoy freedom.

Writing isn't slavery.
Forum: Copywriting 27th November 2016, 01:05 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Austingirl24
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

Kay you're absolutely right! One I should have not been rude to Marica who was trying to help. and two I shouldn't have got all emotional about being "blackmailed".

Like I explained in the last...
Forum: Copywriting 27th November 2016, 10:54 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By marciayudkin
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

Kay, I was not insulted.

My point was just that when a problem is resolved, let it go.

If you don't let it go, if you continue to belabor it, then you put yourself at risk of being as much at...
Forum: Copywriting 27th November 2016, 09:02 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Kay King
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

So you insult one of the most experienced copywriters in this section...?

There's a lesson here that will serve you well in the future:

Never say anything in an email or skype, etc,...
Forum: Copywriting 25th November 2016, 07:02 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Princess Balestra
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

Hey, today is Black Friday, so I figure the portal to Hades must be open sumplace.

Find it, an' all we gotta do is figure out howta operate a bulldozer without squishin' any kittens.
Forum: Copywriting 24th November 2016, 02:44 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Austingirl24
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

You have no clue how much I needed to hear that Angie. It seem to minor but thank you. Seriously.
Forum: Copywriting 24th November 2016, 02:39 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Austingirl24
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

Angie,

you're totally right. Checked the refund policy and said 60 days. I asked for a refund after 2 days. I'm not really picky but it was my first copywriting course so I was excited... only to...
Forum: Copywriting 24th November 2016, 02:08 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By Austingirl24
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

I did that, only to wake up this morning with another email telling me to pay her for the course or she would release our email conversation (I was being nice and trying to work with her and she was...
Forum: Copywriting 24th November 2016, 04:20 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 458
Posted By marciayudkin
Re: How do you deal with unprofessional copywriters?!

Just put her on your email "ignore" list so you don't even see her messages any more.

Simple as that.

Marcia Yudkin
Forum: Copywriting 22nd November 2016, 12:50 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 257
Posted By RickDuris
Re: How far do you go to get killer content?

No, the writing should never call attention to itself. When it does, conversions and consumability suffer.

That stated, your writing can never be too clear, concise or compelling.
Forum: Copywriting 21st November 2016, 04:28 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 395
Posted By GordonJ
Well, before that happens...

Well, two things then. The golf example is an actual case study, having spent 20 years in supplements, long before the www. Using list brokers, we were able to create very specific promotions for...
Forum: Copywriting 21st November 2016, 03:12 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By DABK
Re: How much are you charging?

Don't forget: Jumping off cliffs is highly exhilarating.
Forum: Copywriting 21st November 2016, 11:39 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 395
Posted By GordonJ
A mini-mini course in copywritng/product development.

Celebrating my 275th post (this incarnation). Why wait to 1000 or some other number?
Mini Course for Copywriters.

Drilling down. Market: GOLF. Niche Senior Men in all season golf states....
Forum: Copywriting 20th November 2016, 02:22 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By perryny
Re: How much are you charging?

Congratulations, Angie! Keep on rockin' and knockin 'em out the park!

-Rob
Forum: Copywriting 20th November 2016, 10:31 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By RickDuris
Re: How much are you charging?

Now that is good news! I'm really excited for you!

P.S. Did you get the "you'll be crawling back to us on your knees begging for your job back" yet?
Forum: Copywriting 19th November 2016, 08:40 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By RickDuris
Re: How much are you charging?

Thanks, Angie.

You've come a long way very quickly.

Yes, over-delivery as a deliberate strategy can be an extremely effective way to lift your income.

It's a true point of distinction....
Forum: Copywriting 19th November 2016, 01:08 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By RickDuris
Re: How much are you charging?

How much you should charge your words is usually a function of self-worth.

If you have a high self-worth, you will attract clients willing to pay it.

Hard to believe, I know.

But you more...
Forum: Copywriting 19th November 2016, 01:08 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,211
Posted By RickDuris
Re: AWAI or Simple Writing System

"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking." - Albert...
Forum: Copywriting 18th November 2016, 08:42 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,211
Posted By GordonJ
The groundwork.

Thanks Rick,

As someone who spent tens of thousands of dollars over the years on education; marketing, copywriting and advertising...ongoing learning is, in my opinion, the best investment most...
Forum: Copywriting 15th November 2016, 10:50 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 224
Posted By GordonJ
The West Coast style, Gary Halbert, circa 1987

Thanks Max5ty,

Back in the day, almost every copywriter I knew, had some design skills, and in some places, it was required that you at least rough sketch your ideas so the graphic guys could do...
Forum: Copywriting 15th November 2016, 10:01 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 224
Posted By max5ty
Have You Heard Of These Copywriters?

I realize a lot of the copywriters in this forum usually associate copywriters with those that write sales letters...

but here's a few who do a lot more.

Check out some of the work from some...
Forum: Copywriting 15th November 2016, 09:38 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 228
Posted By GordonJ
Why have you created a "daunting task" for yourself?

Without a mentor. WHY? Right here at WF, you can find all kinds of people willing to mentor you, and 3 thousand dollars, for an accelerated program is probably average cost. Sell your car, or TV,...
Forum: Copywriting 15th November 2016, 08:55 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,125
Posted By GordonJ
For your consideration and a question for the group.

I know hundreds of REAL copy writers. When I say real, I mean men and women making their living, and for the most part, a pretty decent one...

by writing copy.

I don't know ONE, not one, ...
Forum: Copywriting 15th November 2016, 08:41 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 212
Posted By GordonJ
The scientific part of DIRECT response copywriting is...

found in the numbers.

Where is your proof these methods don't work? And you are saying a review is different from a testimonial, which could be true...but to toss out testimonials altogether,...
Forum: Copywriting 8th November 2016, 08:44 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 691
Posted By GordonJ
Ron White says: "No cure for stupidity."

On behalf of the former self-righteous, mean-spirited and contentious contributors:


Our desultory indignation comes as a result of the many freelance sychophants and minions. Contention...
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