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Forum: Offline Marketing 20th December 2013, 04:33 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,733
Posted By payoman
The Pitfalls of Online Marketing/Web Design Business (And Why I Quit)

Hi everyone,

The regulars around here will recognize me, but it has been quite a while since I posted (probably a good 4-5 months). For the new people, I will quickly recap what I achieved in the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 8th August 2013, 05:22 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,061
Posted By payoman
Re: Just Had A Meeting With The Market Leader In My Local Town, Here's His Advice

I'm not sure if it's how he packages his services, but the vast majority of his websites that I look at in his portfolio follow a very similar theme.

Left hand navigation menu, header with logo...
Forum: Offline Marketing 8th August 2013, 06:21 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,061
Posted By payoman
Re: Just Had A Meeting With The Market Leader In My Local Town, Here's His Advice

Thanks for pointing that out Dan, I missed that line obviously but sometimes in these threads (not to mention the TONS of marketing stuff I watch and read and listen to on a daily basis) I forget...
Forum: Offline Marketing 8th August 2013, 04:05 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,061
Posted By payoman
Just Had A Meeting With The Market Leader In My Local Town, Here's His Advice

I met with the leading web designer in my town (roughly 350k people) today to discuss a joint venture.

I thought I'd explain what the joint venture was (since he was very interested and basically...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd August 2013, 01:03 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,132
Posted By payoman
Re: How to get past the "I need a job" feeling, so I can actually grow my offline business???

Although this post has it's heart in the right place, it's not really practical.

Sure, being SUPER-PASSIONATE-ETHICAL-DUTY-RAWWWR is great, but it's not like there's a clear road to getting INTO...
Forum: Offline Marketing 18th July 2013, 05:02 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,656
Posted By payoman
Re: Strategy to get clients without cold calling or...?

I gotta say I am thankful for people like the OP.

Imagine if the majority of people WEREN'T afraid to cold call?

I don't think I would have been able to start a business, I just hear the words...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd July 2013, 09:06 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,154
Posted By payoman
Re: Nuke the gatekeeper

Interesting.

I will have to remember to drop an octave when I call your mom and invite her to dinner this week.

:D
Forum: Offline Marketing 10th June 2013, 05:02 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,145
Posted By payoman
Re: Ever hit rock bottom?

Yeah, just recently posted that I have been.

I over-hired and under-charged for my services and ran my cash flow into the ground. I applied for jobs and got a seriously attractive offer of $60k +...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th June 2013, 05:18 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,438
Posted By payoman
Re: I Have A Telemarketing Job Interview Tommorow, Warrior Advice Needed!

Update :

Had the interview. Went extremely well, used alot of advice from this thread (missed the laster posters advice about salary negotiation unfortunately).

I got along really well with...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd June 2013, 06:19 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,438
Posted By payoman
Re: I Have A Telemarketing Job Interview Tommorow, Warrior Advice Needed!

Appreciate the replies, let me clarify some points I have investigated further.

Here was the chain of events :

- The job was posted on one of the largest job sites in Australia with a salary...
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th May 2013, 08:29 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 4,552
Posted By payoman
Re: How I Made $1860 + $500 Recurring Monthly For $3

I guess so, since I only use about 5 variants of images for my ads and my guy hasnt mentioned it being an issue.
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th May 2013, 05:11 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 737
Posted By payoman
Re: How Do I Sell My Free Service?

Sounds like you would just meet them AT the apartment address, wouldn't you? Why a 'neutral location' lol sounds like a spy movie.

If you're worried they go without you, just book a specific time...
Forum: Offline Marketing 14th May 2013, 03:58 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 4,552
Posted By payoman
How I Made $1860 + $500 Recurring Monthly For $3

How's that for a title? I felt like making another one of those threads with tons of views and posts because the title draws in all you money hungry offliners(:D).

While the title is a minor...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th May 2013, 06:09 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,131
Posted By payoman
A Strange Phenomena (About Closing The Deal)

So it happened again today. The dreaded 'too-good-to-be-true-enthusiastic-prospect'.

A guy called me about a classified ad I had posted online. He tells me he 'wants to get serious about his...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th May 2013, 07:19 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,455
Posted By payoman
Re: Marketing Consultant Packages and prices?

Although I agree with Eddy, I think when you are just starting out, it can be hard to demonstrate the value/show the results long term if :

A) You haven't got much feedback from clients yet or
B)...
Forum: Offline Marketing 27th April 2013, 12:10 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,844
Posted By payoman
Re: Just had an idea for increasing close rates over the phone, thoughts?

OK I missed one of Ken's posts where he got more into detail about how to close, I was about to tirade about how he hadn't given any specifics and so I was mad haha. Thanks Ken, great posts!

But I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 25th April 2013, 06:08 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,844
Posted By payoman
Re: Just had an idea for increasing close rates over the phone, thoughts?

Here's the key difference : The customer who goes into the dealership is not only already pre-qualified (they are going into the dealership themselves), they are also SEEING the product and TESTING...
Forum: Offline Marketing 25th April 2013, 07:48 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,844
Posted By payoman
Re: Just had an idea for increasing close rates over the phone, thoughts?

Wait, so every sale you have ever made was one call close? You never sent more information via email that the client requested before purchase?

I find that hard to believe. People NEED things in...
Forum: Offline Marketing 25th April 2013, 06:05 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 3,906
Posted By payoman
Re: Can cold-calling build a big offline business quickly?

You know what, I just love step-by-step guides, they are so precise and you can't mis-interpret them, or second guess them. You just DO them. Here's what I literally do if I have no clients and need...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2013, 10:14 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,200
Posted By payoman
Re: Why I Nearly Gave Up, And How I Bounced Back

This was when I was in my slump and couldn't bring myself to hit the phones, so things got pretty tight for a few months.
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2013, 04:01 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,632
Posted By payoman
Re: Pitch Anything

You know what, I am going to play devil's advocate for a second here...

But I will be honest too, I haven't read the book in it's entirety, but I have read a portion and also listened to in-depth...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2013, 01:14 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 816
Posted By payoman
Re: How Do You All Put Up With This?

Yeah...This REALLY annoyed me when I was starting out. But I think we all know the reason these owners don't take action when they have so many obvious problems...

Well, it's usually 1 of 2 things...
Forum: Offline Marketing 18th April 2013, 09:08 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,200
Posted By payoman
Why I Nearly Gave Up, And How I Bounced Back

So I haven't made a post in a long time. Well, a constructive post that helped readers, anyway. I have dropped the odd question in this forum, or another, but I wanted to give anyone who knows my...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th March 2013, 10:20 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 8,241
Posted By payoman
Re: Telesales for the non-salesperson! How to make loads of $$$ working from home!

Heh, you certainly have John. But it's good to have 'reminder' posts I guess.

Also, everything in the OP is for damn sure. Done it myself this week.
Forum: Offline Marketing 1st November 2012, 05:59 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,572
Posted By payoman
Re: [Cold Calling]Over 1000 dialed, 0 sales I Need help

Funny, as soon as I read 'I grew up in Israel' I thought 'here comes the sob story' LOL...Sorry but that just seems a little off topic. Anyway, back to the issue...

So your followup proposal was...
Forum: Offline Marketing 27th October 2012, 06:15 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,661
Posted By payoman
Re: Thinking of Starting My Own Web Design Company [Serious]

Check my sig.
Forum: Offline Marketing 24th October 2012, 11:52 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 967
Posted By payoman
Re: How to start on unemployment?

1. Find someone on here who you can work commission for (I'd be happy to do it).

2. Call up local businesses that don't have websites and ask if they would be interested.

3. Get the contact...
Forum: Offline Marketing 24th October 2012, 08:58 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 739
Posted By payoman
Re: The 'Pricing' Problem : Add More Value! (Explained)

That's what I thought initially.

But then you discover that every prospect is either 1 of 3 types :

1. They won't pay a CENT for a website because they don't WANT to see the value in them, for...
Forum: Offline Marketing 24th October 2012, 07:16 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 739
Posted By payoman
The 'Pricing' Problem : Add More Value! (Explained)

It's been a crazy week for myself and my family. We went out for dinner to celebrate my sisters 20th birthday and co-incidentally my parents settled the contract on selling their house, so it ended...
Forum: Offline Marketing 21st October 2012, 08:09 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 2,853
Posted By payoman
Re: Easy, Quick and Fun Cold Calling

This is pretty how much how I built my business.

The only difference is how much you make per sale. Which is actually really critical, because you will either be making $200-$300 per sale or...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th October 2012, 07:41 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 992
Posted By payoman
Re: Loving my new Business model, but it's just not loving me back! Any ideas what I can do better?

$200 in 5 weeks working 3 hours a day? That is really terrible.

Didn't you notice that Dan Kennedy aimed his newsletters at VERY high end, expensive professions such as Dentists, Chiropractors,...
Forum: Offline Marketing 11th October 2012, 06:01 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 850
Posted By payoman
Re: What has been your best strategy you have learnt from this forum to make money with?

Best strategy I found was the one I am still using...

1. Find someone overseas who designs nice websites and is easy to communicate with, who charges a wholesale rate (you can get nice websites...
Forum: Offline Marketing 21st September 2012, 03:47 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,848
Posted By payoman
Re: Eat That Frog! Overcoming the Common Objection

Here's a question Jason :

What's the best way to overcome potential customers who don't follow through? I have had quite a few potential clients recently verbally agree to the sale over the phone,...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th September 2012, 01:03 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,899
Posted By payoman
Re: Cold Calling Blues

Here's some inspiration...

For the last 3 months, I have been making between $4500-$6000 selling websites purely through cold calling.

So, there's my evidence it can be done.

In terms of...
Forum: Offline Marketing 14th September 2012, 05:51 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 2,408
Posted By payoman
Re: My First $5000+ Week (And How I Did It)

Regarding questions about payment : All our jobs require 50% upfront before work begins. A couple of these deals were closed Friday, so the deposits won't be received until next week, since we...
Forum: Offline Marketing 14th September 2012, 06:58 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 2,408
Posted By payoman
My First $5000+ Week (And How I Did It)

So here in Australia it's 10:40 PM on Friday night and I have had my first $5000 week of sales.

That's $5000 worth of deals closed from Monday to Friday. $5368 to be exact.

I am still kind of...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th September 2012, 02:38 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 2,650
Posted By payoman
Re: Finally, a business model that suits my lifestyle, and a $1500 sale to prove it works

It's actually ridiculously hard cold selling websites to businesses that don't already have one.

The last couple of days, I went back to my original formula of calling businesses in the Yellow...
Forum: Offline Marketing 5th September 2012, 09:37 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 631
Posted By payoman
Need Financial Advice from Business Owners

Changed my mind. Thanks to all those that contributed :)

For those wondering, I got offered a better deal to wait another 6 months. 6 months more hell and that's it.
Forum: Offline Marketing 22nd August 2012, 06:36 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,215
Posted By payoman
Re: Banging My Head Against The Wall (Cold Calling Related)

Hadrian, this friend of yours sounds almost EXACTLY like my best friend.

See, my best friend asked to do the exact same thing, 'work for me' and help out etc. But I knew his attitude towards life,...
Forum: Offline Marketing 14th August 2012, 07:28 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,201
Posted By payoman
My First Offline Product, Free of Charge For All

Hi Guys,

So I thought I'd do an information product for those newbies who want to learn more about starting an offline web design/marketing business.

I wanted to aim it specifically at newbies,...
Forum: Offline Marketing 11th August 2012, 08:11 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 832
Posted By payoman
Re: Can you run this business on <10 hours per week?

Wait, Iamnameless is making 100k per month? SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
Forum: Offline Marketing 5th August 2012, 02:28 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,773
Posted By payoman
Re: My Financials for July ($7404 in Sales)

Let's all make fat stacks together! $$$$$$$
Forum: Offline Marketing 1st August 2012, 07:06 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 945
Posted By payoman
Re: Cold Callers -- Tips 4 Getting Started (In The Morning!)

EDIT : Was asking about other thread, found other thread and the answer haha.

I like to play videogames while I cold call.

Not only is it fun, it's relaxing and easy to simply pause the game...
Forum: Offline Marketing 31st July 2012, 10:53 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,773
Posted By payoman
Re: My Financials for July ($7404 in Sales)

These are all 5 page standard sites. Actually, one site was like 10 pages but it was a redesign and I only charged him $1360. This turned out to be a massive fail, because the client ended up to be...
Forum: Offline Marketing 31st July 2012, 10:51 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,773
Posted By payoman
Re: My Financials for July ($7404 in Sales)

Questions answered :

How many hours did I put in?

Probably, I would roughly guess, about 8-12 hours of calling total for the month.

As you can see, I hit it pretty hard for one week, and...
Forum: Offline Marketing 31st July 2012, 03:42 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,773
Posted By payoman
My Financials for July ($7404 in Sales)

So I mentioned in an earlier thread that I would do a 'reveal' of my stats this month.

Truthfully, out of the almost 6 months I have been doing this (since early March), this is the first month I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 23rd July 2012, 09:09 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,055
Posted By payoman
Re: Am I being overly optimistic?

I used to think the lower your price, the easier it was to close...

That belief is beginning to shift.

I think it's more about their interest than the price. For example, I tried selling sites...
Forum: Offline Marketing 18th July 2012, 10:27 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,029
Posted By payoman
Do You Feel Like You Aren't 'Good Enough' To Do This?

I just had a thought. Back when I started this (outsource web design and SEO for local business) about 4 months ago now, I remember having thoughts like...

"I don't know enough yet. What if I get...
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th July 2012, 12:38 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,169
Posted By payoman
My Cold Calling Tips

Just thought I'd post something useful before I head out for dinner.

Here are a few tricks that have helped me cold call more effeciently lately :

- Just hang up when you hear ANY firmly...
Forum: Offline Marketing 11th July 2012, 12:33 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 978
Posted By payoman
Re: Do you have the Guts to Make it as an offline IMer?

This was the single biggest realisation I had, admittedly after I saw some success...

Why would ever, ever, ever, ever work for someone else and make an...OK living, when you can work for yourself...
Forum: Offline Marketing 10th July 2012, 01:41 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,315
Posted By payoman
Re: I Sent My Prospect A Text, She Responded: What Would John Durham Do?

Why would you follow up when they said blankly no, not interested?

Are you avoiding the phones? I have yet to even bother with door to door sales and I have about $3000 in the pipeline from the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 10th July 2012, 01:39 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,181
Posted By payoman
Re: Question for Warriors Who Sell Web Design

My average 5 page simple wordpress site goes for $600+$360 hosting/support for 1 year.

I plan to increase the cost over time, but for now this is working.
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th July 2012, 06:56 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,209
Posted By payoman
Re: The Cold Calling Venture

Closed over the phone, used John Durhams free telemarketing report.

Thread :...
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th July 2012, 06:05 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,209
Posted By payoman
Re: The Cold Calling Venture

I struggled with reaching 150 calls per day, let alone 300, phew.

You may get burnt out doing THAT many per day. If you missed my thread, I ended up with about 3 sales after a week of about 500...
Forum: Offline Marketing 5th July 2012, 06:55 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 3,813
Posted By payoman
Re: No Money? NO PROBLEM!! $5,000 Website Deal Went Bust, Then Turned Into a $50,000 BOAT!!

OK OK...you HAVE to admit, I think this was a little insane!

I mean...at what point do we honestly admit that we have gone too far with the whole "buy low, sell high"? Is there a limit?

This...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd July 2012, 11:07 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 859
Posted By payoman
Re: What do all the winners at this game have in common?

Needing it was definitely the key for me.

Simply for the fact that I see no other option. It's either make big bucks but take responsibility working 40 hours a week running a business, or make...
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