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Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th January 2016, 10:50 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

What's happening is that after failing in their scheme to take over all of their customers' websites, put their own brand at the top, and steal everyone's traffic, ClickBank's unethical executives...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th January 2016, 07:08 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I'm amazed at how this is all playing out. ClickBank is twisting in the wind right now. Threatening and often inaccurate emails are being sent to their customers. Canned apology after apology is...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 8th January 2016, 02:48 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Justin... come on, dude.

There's a difference between "not rushing" and just taking way, way longer than you should to actually get your project done.

If you spend three years or five years (or...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 1st January 2016, 09:47 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Very few companies would do what ClickBank did. They tried to take over all of their customers' websites, put their own header and brand at the top, steal their customers' traffic with a link to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 1st January 2016, 05:29 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

There are other possibilities:

- Buyers get confused about why two companies' brands are on the page, and this interrupts their train of thought when they would normally be continuing to consider...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st December 2015, 02:10 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Enough to be checking this thread multiple times per day and posting a number of long explanations of your views on this issue with ClickBank, despite having already posted those thoughts before....
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 31st December 2015, 08:41 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I'm not trying to make it a competition either, and I'm not saying you shouldn't participate in any thread you choose. All I'm saying is that just because you see me posting a lot in this thread...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th December 2015, 03:52 PM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I just know that if I wasn't making money yet, I wouldn't be spending this much time in a discussion thread where I had already stated my views and I was lacking in relevant experience to begin with....
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th December 2015, 02:01 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Justin, we get it. Honestly, we do. You don't think it will be a problem, and it's normal for newcomers to be optimistic (sometimes too optimistic). On the other hand, many of us who have years of...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 29th December 2015, 10:32 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

People will still continue to put products on ClickBank. I don't think most vendors are aware of the "badge" requirement yet. I also think that among the vendors who are aware of it, most of them...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th December 2015, 12:46 PM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

You can (and should) use a disclaimer. But someone can still sue you. Not just customers, but anyone you ever hire to do any task, any business or platform whose services you use, etc. There are lots...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th December 2015, 09:46 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

If you're running a business and selling a product or service of any kind, you're open to lawsuits. Forming an LLC allows you to insulate yourself from monetary judgments by making your business a...
Forum: Programming 14th December 2015, 07:52 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,850
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank Trust Button with Wordpress

Yes, unfortunately they seem to be pretty clueless at ClickBank. Just look at the fact that they tried to redirect everyone's websites into IFRAMES... they really didn't see the problems there. It...
Forum: Programming 14th December 2015, 07:15 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,850
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank Trust Button with Wordpress

I would make ClickBank help you with this. They are the ones who are forcing you to add this to your website. They should be the ones to provide technical assistance in doing so.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th December 2015, 12:00 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 798
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: cbconsumer.com - Fab Website, Disappointing Traffic

It's actually worse than that. The statistics are fake.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th December 2015, 09:59 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 798
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: cbconsumer.com - Fab Website, Disappointing Traffic

This is completely absurd. OP, think about what you have done.

With regard to buyers...

You have made a website that displays completely fake customer ratings, and you're telling buyers they...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 4th December 2015, 05:05 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Fair enough, although when you start using words like "jealous" it's hard to read it any other way. To you point, I think we all want to be top sellers (whether we use ClickBank or another service to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 4th December 2015, 03:50 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I'm sure the perception other members have of you would benefit more from not being this abrasive, especially as a relatively new member of the forum and someone who admittedly has no experience as a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd December 2015, 12:43 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Please don't patronize me.



No, the questions below have not been answered:

- How exactly did it come to be that ClickBank's payment partners (plural) supposedly began "requiring" ClickBank...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd December 2015, 05:06 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

There is no confusion about the fact that ClickBank is a "retailer" as a matter of legal convenience. But ClickBank is not a retailer in the real world, and repeating yourself instead of addressing...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd December 2015, 04:52 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

All we're telling you is that while you're playing, you need to watch out for the guy running up to tackle you. You don't have to keep trying to justify your decision to put your product on ClickBank...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 29th November 2015, 09:38 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Wait a second. Your behavior in this thread...

- Calling everyone's concerns a "hissy fit"

- Saying everyone is "bitching and complaining"

- Repeating your claims numerous times after people...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th November 2015, 11:35 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

The reason you thought that is because ClickBank has changed what they're doing as this thread has progressed and they've seen the backlash among their customer base.

Their original scheme was to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th November 2015, 04:52 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I agree, but buyers already know this. They pay on a ClickBank branded order form. Then they receive ClickBank branded order confirmation emails. And the "Thank You" page where they download their...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th November 2015, 03:54 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

It's really hard to tell if you're serious or not when you make such bizarre statements.



- Vendors and affiliates are the ones who seek out and use ClickBank's services. The people who buy a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 23rd November 2015, 07:20 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Affiliates have a few things to worry about here:

- Whether the products they promote will keep using the ClickBank platform after all of this

- For products that do stay on ClickBank, how the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th November 2015, 01:02 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I don't think there's any way to argue that telling all of your customers they have to put your header and branding at the top of their websites, and then putting a link to your "marketplace" in that...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th November 2015, 10:08 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I truly have no idea what you're talking about. I doubt anyone else does, either. As we're discussing business matters, it's probably more productive to speak clearly than to post riddles.



The...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th November 2015, 10:51 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

They tried to take over all of their customers' websites, put their own header and branding at the top, steal their customers' traffic with a link into their own "marketplace," and change their...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th November 2015, 05:26 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Technically, yes, I believe you could get around their attempt to force you to place their brand at the top of your website by creating an interstitial page. You would send potential buyers to that...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th November 2015, 03:28 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Let's consider the timeline:

1. ClickBank announces that they are taking over all of their customers' websites against their will, putting their own header and branding at the top, siphoning away...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th November 2015, 02:11 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

That's strange, because it's me who creates and hosts the website where the product is sold. It's me or an affiliate who attracts potential buyers to my website. It's me who convinces those potential...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th November 2015, 03:22 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

So the "badge" is actually still a header, or alternatively a floating tab that always stays visible even when the user scrolls down?

The management at ClickBank has truly lost their minds.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th November 2015, 12:46 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

They just tried to take over all of their customers' websites, put their own header and branding at the top, and steal their customers' traffic for their own "marketplace." While doing this, they...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th October 2015, 11:22 AM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

What they're doing is forcing product sellers to put the ClickBank brand on their websites against their will. This is according to them, not me - they just word it differently to make it sound less...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 26th October 2015, 10:15 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 3,353
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: The NEW ClickBank Trust Badge

So they want us to put a ClickBank "badge" on our site now. And if we refuse, they will fire us as their customers and not let us give them money any more? Oh no!

These people are completely...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 26th October 2015, 10:13 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

What they want is to be a "global internet retailer with 200,000,000 customers" like they're saying now on their website and social media. Forcing us to put their brand on our websites and stealing...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th October 2015, 10:38 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Says who?

If you believe a word ClickBank tells you at this point, we are really viewing things very differently.

Think about it for a second. ClickBank also tried to put a link to their...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th October 2015, 02:08 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Unfortunately, whatever they were in the past, they are under new management and are now operating in a predatory manner. This is a company that just tried to hijack all of their customers' websites....
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th October 2015, 10:14 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

This response from ClickBank is somewhat painful to read.

Look how smooth and manipulative it is. The handshake graphic. The use of cutesy terminology like "fail." The patronizing emotional...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th October 2015, 02:58 AM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Was this not you:



It's not productive to start giving people a hard time when they simply take you at your word.



There has been a lot of rational discussion in this thread. As I see it,...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th October 2015, 06:21 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I'm not sure you thought this post through. The words in bold are actually an assumption by definition. Not only that, but it's even less convincing because he was the one who offered to bring...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th October 2015, 11:27 AM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I agree with you somewhat, especially about the last part. But I do think it's telling that they still have not answered some of the simple questions that have been getting raised by outraged...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th October 2015, 10:21 AM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Funny how they need days and days to come up with responses. When you're telling the truth, it doesn't take that long.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th October 2015, 03:05 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

Having a ClickBank logo on the buy button would certainly be better than what they are attempting to do, provided it was done well (and not in a way that makes it look like ClickBank is the product...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th October 2015, 08:28 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

There are other, far less drastic and invasive solutions to a problem like that. For starters, putting the vendor/product name on the line that identifies the charge, or making the notices that the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th October 2015, 06:43 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I used to like them, too, before they tried to get all mafia on us and take over all of our websites.



That benefit is far outweighed by the negatives at this point.



I don't really know...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 6th October 2015, 12:50 PM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th October 2015, 11:24 AM
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Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you said, but I don't think the credit card companies are forcing ClickBank to do what they're doing. If it was about scammy products and refund/chargeback rates,...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th October 2015, 07:09 AM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

I think it's important for people who are considering doing business with ClickBank to see this, and I don't think the careful analysis and honest questions in this thread can be minimized as simple...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th October 2015, 06:53 AM
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Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

You do understand that an account rep's job is literally to tell us what ClickBank wants them to tell us, right?



Fixed that...



I agree, but I think it's clear at this point that the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 3rd October 2015, 10:11 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,410
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: Amazon and eBay killing off affiliates?

I have to question why someone making six figures a month, meaning a minimum of 1.2 million dollars per year, would be promoting MMO courses instead of growing that extremely lucrative business.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd October 2015, 01:18 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

They absolutely have a choice. This is something they want to do. That's the only logical way to view it.

The justifications they are providing have to do with problems which could be addressed in...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 2nd October 2015, 01:02 PM
Replies: 959
Views: 63,684
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: ClickBank soon requiring ALL sales pages to have a ClickBank branded header.

That's what you reply to?

Wow.

While you're here, go ahead and explain how hijacking all of your customers' websites is necessary to address the issue of buyers being confused when they see...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th September 2015, 04:35 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 502
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: Youtube idea with great potential

You can't copyright an idea. You can't patent an idea either, but you can patent the implementation of it - in other words, you can patent the way you will actually build/produce the idea in a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th September 2015, 03:24 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 678
Posted By Jon Patrick
Re: Need Delivery Method For Digital Products

I would look into Amazon S3. They are cheap and you only pay for what you use.
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