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Forum: Offline Marketing 14th May 2013, 05:00 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,131
Posted By kenmichaels
Re: A Strange Phenomena (About Closing The Deal)

If you don't ask for the sale, that is what happens.

Always ask.

And if they say no. Ask why not. It is the only way to get to the root
of the problem.

Some people just want a deal. Some...
Forum: Offline Marketing 18th April 2013, 09:17 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,200
Posted By kenmichaels
Re: Why I Nearly Gave Up, And How I Bounced Back

I wish you contacted me. .. really I do.
I would have helped you get over yourself.

That ego thing. EVERY sales person you will EVER meet goes thru the same thing eventually
the good ones sooner...
Forum: Offline Marketing 7th March 2013, 11:44 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,405
Posted By flnz400
Re: At My Wits End...SEO/Offline Marketing Problem

It's because most of the people around here don't and can't do what you're trying to do...they only sell info products or complimentary services that "teach" you god knows what.

To get to the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th March 2013, 05:45 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,405
Posted By cshilling22
Re: At My Wits End...SEO/Offline Marketing Problem

You could also set up your own lead gen site, send all the traffic to yourself, and then just sell them leads.
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th March 2013, 11:22 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,405
Posted By RedShifted
Re: At My Wits End...SEO/Offline Marketing Problem

Dominate local search and business directories like yelp/yellow pages/yahoo local/bing local etc etc.

You can also rank long tail keywords on youtube, very fast.

In addition, Craigslist would...
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th March 2013, 07:03 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,405
Posted By grey38
Re: At My Wits End...SEO/Offline Marketing Problem

Why not use Google + Local? An easy enough service, and like 100x the people will just search "painters" and the painters in their city will show up, rather than people searching "painters city".
...
Forum: Offline Marketing 28th October 2012, 05:46 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 13,070
Posted By Jason Kanigan
My 2,000th Post: For Cold Calling Beginners

If you're new to the idea of "cold calling"...which I suggest you change the name of to "prospecting" so that it stops viscerally screwing your head up...

...and you're struggling with that "I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th October 2012, 03:03 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,188
Posted By desmond11
Re: Where Most Offliners Are GOING WRONG! (Video)

Hey Payoman,

In answer to your questions:

1. How long have you been running your offline business for?
About 9 months now. I have five niches in total

2. What are your offerings? I know you...
Forum: Offline Marketing 30th June 2012, 07:43 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 4,395
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: Wow. Cold Calling works. $3.5k+ of new business in a week.

Good. Don't stop calling now that you have all this work.

It's a common situation: people quit prospecting and concentrate on the work they have for 2-3 weeks. And then what?

They're right back...
Forum: Offline Marketing 21st May 2012, 07:10 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,093
Posted By maxrezn
Getting Clients Effortlessly: Let's Get This Straight, It's Possible

Disclaimer: I have been running my design firm for about a month now, after being in the high end auto detailing industry for 5 years. When I started my detailing business, I struggled to get 3...
Forum: Offline Marketing 30th April 2012, 02:55 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,636
Posted By Bigj77
30 clients this month and I'm getting bored

I have a half hour to kill so I figure I will post with something that consistently gets me a lot of clients quickly.

Reading on this forum I see a lot of variety in post which is good but often...
Forum: Offline Marketing 24th April 2012, 03:50 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 644
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: How I Argued My Way Into An Appointment

Be careful with this prospect and watch for personality fit.

If they treat you badly when they're a prospect, imagine how they'll treat you when they're a client and feel like they own you.
Forum: Offline Marketing 21st April 2012, 05:06 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,199
Posted By s62731
Just a website? Or straight into SEO? How I improved my phone sales conversions!

Hi Guys,

In this post I want to share how I have drastically improved my sales over the past few months!

This last 6-8 months has been nothing but development for me. From scared to pick up the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th April 2012, 06:37 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 948
Posted By AussieT
Re: Payoman's Offline Business Journal - How I Got, And How You Can, Get Started In Business

Way to go mate! Keep us updated
what about your other three clients?

Aussiet
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th April 2012, 04:06 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 948
Posted By AfteraDream
Re: Payoman's Offline Business Journal - How I Got, And How You Can, Get Started In Business

Great story man. Good job!


P.S. Yellow pages and ecommerce don't suck. You could actually use Yellow pages as a good advertising source, just because trending stuff if Facebook, mobile etc...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th April 2012, 03:30 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 948
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: Payoman's Offline Business Journal - How I Got, And How You Can, Get Started In Business

It's good that the OP is sharing how he is doing. Too many people either give up waaay too soon and vanish, or feel scared to post when they aren't getting awesome results.

This guy is in it for...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th April 2012, 02:42 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 948
Posted By big steve
Re: Payoman's Offline Business Journal - How I Got, And How You Can, Get Started In Business

Awesome share mate..keep it coming..Look forward to hearing and learning from your experiences!!!
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th April 2012, 12:24 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 948
Posted By Eddie Spangler
Re: Payoman's Offline Business Journal - How I Got, And How You Can, Get Started In Business

Payoman rocks! You can always tell how he is doing. When he gets a sale he is pontificating and sharing his wisdom and discoveries with us.

When he goes for a stretch without a deal he is confused...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2012, 04:04 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,472
Posted By iAmNameLess
I'm On A FREAKING ROLL! The 8 Minute Sale On My Way To Lunch!

This is going to be short and sweet, at least I think it is, but we'll see if it is after I finish typing. This is mostly to slightly brag but also to give motivation to the rest of you that don't...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2012, 06:31 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,067
Posted By Rus Sells
Re: So Sick Of 'Word of Mouth'!

I think you are targeting the wrong segment of this industry. Dressers who pay for their space and who will pay for leads/appointments will be hard to find. Salon owners who are building a brand are...
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th April 2012, 06:16 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,067
Posted By David Miller
Re: So Sick Of 'Word of Mouth'!

Anyone who's been in sales for more than an hour has heard this nonsense at least once. Although it translates to many other things, the overall translation is the word: "NO"

Statistically every...
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th April 2012, 04:54 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 745
Posted By John Durham
Re: When A Client Asks What The Monthly Fee Is For...

1. Hosting
2: Maintenance (this has bigger meaning to them than it does you... but for you it just means "being on a cs retainer". I dont contact my own host more than once every 45-60 days on...
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th April 2012, 03:53 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 745
Posted By veheme
Re: When A Client Asks What The Monthly Fee Is For...

1. I can't say what I charge because I charge according to where I live (since most of my clients live there).

2. When I send the monthly fee, I attach a breakdown of what the tasks are but I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th April 2012, 11:49 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 986
Posted By Eddie Spangler
Re: What is Your Yearly Turnover? (Trying to find average for this industry)

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Forum: Offline Marketing 4th April 2012, 10:13 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 780
Posted By MonteMichaels
Absolutely my point Jay. I could start other...

Absolutely my point Jay. I could start other businesses that I don't know much about and learn to be successful, but I won't be able to teach others how to so it until I know myself.

One of the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th April 2012, 09:56 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 780
Posted By Jay Rhome
Re: Anyone Got Advice For Outsourcing Telemarketing?

Very good advice by MonteMichaels. But, I also believe you SHOULD hire people if your business model allows for growth - and you should have a business model that allows for growth IMO!!!

The...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th April 2012, 08:45 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 803
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Need Critique : Building Small Business Owner Email List?

I think you're confusing internet marketing and offline marketing. The results are going to be lower for you, doing that for potential offline clients. The money IS in the list for internet...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th April 2012, 07:21 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 780
Posted By MonteMichaels
One thing that many people that want to outsource...

One thing that many people that want to outsource their sales forget is that in order for their salespeople to be successful, they will need to know how to sell your service. How are you planning to...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th April 2012, 06:46 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 780
Posted By David Miller
Re: Anyone Got Advice For Outsourcing Telemarketing?

@payoman - It seems like I've been following your offline venture through your posts. It's as if I can see every twist and turn you've taken. You started out like a lot of us, a little confused...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd April 2012, 07:37 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 1,614
Posted By flightrisk
After all these posts about cold calling...

I finally went out and cold called business...set up appointments and made 2 sales.

For all those who are nervous about calling business's, just do it, they want to talk with you!!

Most of all...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 09:50 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By s62731
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

Jason is spot on here. He taught me that way of overcoming objections months ago and I use them to overcome the very initial objections everyday.

But here is something that I think will help you a...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 08:59 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

Oh MAN do I have a great counter for the "I'm too busy as it is" objection. I charge for this. Let me share it here, because you need it and so few people are actually going to read this and take...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 03:29 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By Jerry McGough
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

First of all, don't let my comments below stop you....take your shot.....call all one hundred...

So you know.....
Electrical contractors....and all construction trades....are some of the hardest...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 02:59 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By Tony Grant
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

I like the fact that you are using Power Lead to find Electrical Installers, nice...

Oh and good luck too, the fact that you set the goal. have clear targets and realistic results, you will do...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 02:31 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By rolltide
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

Good luck. Congrats on taking actioN!
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 02:10 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By vndnbrgj
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

It's great that you have a goal and you are going to take action.
If it doesn't work out, set a larger goal. Hell, set a larger goal anyway.


For example, my goal this month is to get 20 new...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 02:05 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By massiveray
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

Very achievable, your silver package sounds a ridiculously good deal, if I weren't selling almost the exact same thing I'd be tempted to buy it myself haha.

Out of interest, do you outsource your...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 02:02 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By StevieJK
Re: Going For A Huge Goal Tommorow, Will Report Back

Great!

Cant wait to hear your results, good luck!
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd April 2012, 01:45 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 988
Posted By iInvent
Forum: Offline Marketing 30th March 2012, 08:03 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,356
Posted By David Miller
Re: New Cold Call System AMAZING SUCCESS (Hi David Miller!)

When people go on diet and begin to exercise many times they don't see the results they are looking for fast enough. They give up and don't just go back to their normal routine, they go back to...
Forum: Offline Marketing 29th March 2012, 07:00 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 5,329
Posted By John Durham
I could Make SIX FIGURES From An "OUT-HOUSE" - with Internet Access and A Phone.

This is in response to another thread which didnt deserve such a story...So Im putting it here. There was a guy saying you cant make money without this and that and this and that....

First a small...
Forum: Offline Marketing 29th March 2012, 01:55 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 4,946
Posted By iAmNameLess
Sadly... A Homeless Guy and his Girlfriend Put 99% Of You TO SHAME!

I have to share this..

Today, I was cleaning up some stuff at my old house since I'm waiting on a few clients to send some information, all my other work is finally caught up.

Moving recently...
Forum: Offline Marketing 28th March 2012, 08:43 AM
Replies: 178
Views: 33,247
Posted By Jason Kanigan
How to Start Your Calls: Prospecting Success Tip

Hi, if you're having trouble starting calls and getting into real conversations with prospects,

then I made this video just for you.

How To Start The Call: Prospecting Success - YouTube

More...
Forum: Offline Marketing 23rd March 2012, 09:23 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,639
Posted By David Miller
It's Time That I Told The Truth

I know I've given some people a hard time when they try to hide obvious attempts to sell their WSO or other product by masking it in some seemingly meaningful post or thread. But now I feel I should...
Forum: Offline Marketing 22nd March 2012, 01:00 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 742
Posted By MRomeo09
Re: How Can I Leverage My Business? Advice?

I think referrals are the key to really leveraging the work you're already doing. Wow the customers with the work that you are doing. Give them a lot of extras. Then have a frank conversation with...
Forum: Offline Marketing 22nd March 2012, 10:18 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 742
Posted By David Miller
Re: How Can I Leverage My Business? Advice?

@payoman - In regard to raising your prices, just do it. No clever "thing you need to do" other than using your lips to form a higher number when you quote a price.

You can always discount a few...
Forum: Offline Marketing 22nd March 2012, 06:02 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 742
Posted By racso316
Re: How Can I Leverage My Business? Advice?

One word. Strategic Partnerships. Just kidding, two words, obviously.

But the fastest way is to look for where and who your target customers are already doing business with. Who are your target...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 21st February 2012, 08:45 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 726
Posted By theverysmartguy
Re: Could an experienced internet marketer pass on some advice?

1. I don't actually give them a "time frame", doing that brings about unrealistic expectations. And you get a bunch of keywords to target, and say that you will get one of those on to the front page...
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