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Forum: Offline Marketing 1st June 2015, 09:02 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 4,598
Posted By John Durham
Some thoughts for cold callers...

Two hours per day on the phone is insignificant, but two sales per week is pretty significant.


Remember , you may have heard yourself pitch 50 times in a row, but this is the first time that ...
Forum: Off Topic Forum 21st July 2014, 04:23 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,667
Posted By JensSteyaert
Re: I don't get Russia

You are assuming that Russia shot down the plane diliberately, and this hasn't been proven yet. Everything you hear now is based on assumptions, people pointing a finger without any real proof of...
Forum: Off Topic Forum 21st July 2014, 02:19 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,667
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: I don't get Russia

This is a pretty common reaction.

First.... it is an opinion piece, not real news.

And we don't have all the facts to blame a specific person, or faction, or country.

It was almost certainly...
Forum: Off Topic Forum 19th July 2014, 02:06 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,135
Posted By JensSteyaert
Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 Shot Down in Ukraine near Russian Border

First of all condolences to all families involved in this tragedy, this is just horrible. :(

However, don't believe anything the media tells you right now, there is too much self interest in that...
Forum: Off Topic Forum 18th July 2014, 07:57 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,135
Posted By whateverpedia
Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 Shot Down in Ukraine near Russian Border

Here's something that needs to be questioned:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Flight-Path.jpg
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th January 2014, 06:18 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,897
Posted By mak25
Re: How I sell mobile web sites with ease

Love that line.
I got that from John Durham.

I miss him around here.

Regardless of his questionable business ethics.

He helped a lot of people on this forum. Including me.

Wherever...
Forum: Offline Marketing 23rd February 2013, 10:08 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 585
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: BBB accredition issues

I remember the rep (Yes, Sales rep) years ago coming into my store to renew my membership. It was about $300 a year. I said "I want to give you money, but I need you to give me a reason. What do I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th February 2013, 05:54 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,216
Posted By John Durham
Re: Proof that it works!!!

I would like to take this moment to honor the memory of Don Lapre - "You inspired the heck out of me Don. Thanks."

On another note, I wonder why the government didnt just "bail him out" of his...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th February 2013, 04:33 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,216
Posted By John Durham
Re: Proof that it works!!!

So Lapre , who sold a perfectly workable system, was jailed because of the 80/20 rule. The people (80%) who didnt go the distance with his perfectly workable plan screamed SCAM... No good deed goes...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th February 2013, 11:48 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,216
Posted By John Durham
Proof that it works!!!

Do Directory Sites Work? Yes.

Does starting a mailing list work? Yes

Does cold calling Work? Yes

Does Direct mail work? Yes

Does Emailing work? Yes
Forum: Offline Marketing 19th February 2013, 08:48 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 1,362
Posted By shane_k
Re: Smarten Up! Raise Your Rates! Here's How!

Really?

Since when has it been against forum rules to answer questions?

Seems to me that you don't want to answer any questions because either you don't have the answers or you can't handle...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th February 2013, 09:11 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 3,888
Posted By John Durham
Re: "I am already getting all the business I need", rebuttal?

Honestly I think my canned reflex response for dealing with:

"I am already getting all the business I need"

Or

"We dont need anymore business"

Is to hang up and think to myself "That...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd February 2013, 04:46 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,770
Posted By Rearden
Re: Sales Training Books

Work for a verified top-producer of the industry you want to enter for a couple years.

No book can replace actual experience.
Forum: Offline Marketing 31st January 2013, 08:39 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 884
Posted By Jason Kanigan
Re: Cold calling-ad space sales

All that for $19.99?

Raise your prices and what you deliver.

Your numbers are OK but man I wouldn't put in the effort for a few $20 sales.

Prospecting & qualifying for a

$20
Forum: Offline Marketing 24th January 2013, 10:33 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 13,242
Posted By midasman09
Re: What Are Tie Downs? How Do You Use Them In Your Sales Pitches?

I've been a "person-to-person" sales guy most of my career. I started a Burglar Alarm biz from scratch simply by walking in and asking to see the owner....showing him my "Pitch-Book" and going thru...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th January 2013, 07:32 PM
Replies: 109
Views: 5,326
Posted By joe golfer
Re: I freeze, justy the thought of cold calling...

To me this is the main problem with serial "PM me" types: They don't share their insight with the community. WF and similar forums work well due to contribution, not hoarding.
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th January 2013, 11:02 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 820
Posted By RJGonzalez
Re: DO OR DON'T

pmarketing, you know your stuff.

I just wanted to get a heads up. good leads are hard to come by and to use it without care will increase the possibilities of a premature death of your business.
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th January 2013, 10:43 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,544
Posted By John Durham
Re: afraid of bothering people - cold calling

Gave this advice earlier but, if you are afraid to bother people... your competitors wont be.

There are even sales here and there, even for the passive, but only what little is left behind by the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 17th January 2013, 07:10 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,365
Posted By SashaLee
Re: Having trouble selling premium listings in your local directory?

Hi there,

John Durham just outlined your business, your sales pitch and your success strategy. You should give him a cut of profits! :-)

Best,

Sasha.
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th January 2013, 07:16 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,365
Posted By John Durham
Re: Having trouble selling premium listings in your local directory?

It would be difficult to say which is easier for any individual, but both are equally reasonable. Honestly , most people have trouble asking for alot of money, so it would be easier for them to sell...
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th January 2013, 04:02 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,365
Posted By John Durham
Re: Having trouble selling premium listings in your local directory?

The best way to learn is to go to findlaw.com and find out how they justify it. Obviously justifying it is not an impossibility. On another note, this is factual; some people here charge 2k for the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th January 2013, 02:14 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,189
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: How to do Offline Marketing Without Selling Your Soul

OK, Paul. I'm really with you on the not lying part. But providing a good service?
Have you run the numbers on that? Good service costs money. NO Service is lots cheaper. See? I'm telling the truth....
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th January 2013, 02:03 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,365
Posted By John Durham
Re: Having trouble selling premium listings in your local directory?

Cool Kristopher. Now I dont feel so alone. Looking forward to reading your experience.

@ Pm

Some sites for attorneys and such charge up to $1,000 per month, and others charge $19.00 per month....
Forum: Offline Marketing 15th January 2013, 12:44 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 3,651
Posted By DarrenRM
Re: I totally "SALEBLOCKED" a yellowpages salesman today...

I totally disagree here. It's not about knocking others off their perch. You should show you're the better company, product, service, whatever, and allow the prospect to join the dots and come to the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 10th January 2013, 12:19 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 754
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: Finding a Marketing Partner

I mean this the nicest way possible.

Your projections are the kiss of death. They are completely unbelievable. Even to the most naive investor. You have no track record, no sales, and are trying...
Forum: Offline Marketing 9th January 2013, 11:38 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,571
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Tell me more about taking checks from clients

You know Wells Fargo has a remote reader, you don't even have to leave your house. I have regions and they have it as well, but I prefer to go to the bank. Bank tellers are always hot.
Forum: Offline Marketing 9th January 2013, 11:28 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,571
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Tell me more about taking checks from clients

Sometimes, that can be an issue. It depends entirely on your bank or the client's bank. You'll eventually get returns saying that the MICR line couldn't be read. Using ink instead of toner isn't very...
Forum: Offline Marketing 7th January 2013, 06:14 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,085
Posted By TyBrown
Re: How Do I Prevent a Chargeback?

I personally don't understand all the comments on here essentially saying 'oh, just chalk it up as a loss and give them their money back.' It doesn't make sense to me that you would do the work and...
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th January 2013, 11:22 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 2,397
Re: What's worse than a rejection?

Worse than rejection is " Not even give it a try "
Forum: Offline Marketing 6th January 2013, 03:05 AM
Replies: 18
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Views: 1,127
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Mass Emailer - Bulk emailing solution

Almost EVERY niche I've touched, the only exception has been flooring/carpet/tile industry where it averages at 11-12%

Having an under 10% open rate usually means delivery issues. On a rare...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th January 2013, 09:49 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 548
Posted By Aaron Doud
Re: Messaging offline owners on Facebook

Honestly? Pick up the phone.

While I have not gotten much spam on Facebook I get offers for SEO serveral times during the week via our contact us form and my email address.

You know what I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th January 2013, 09:22 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 2,397
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: What's worse than a rejection?

I don't cold call all that much, but I've knocked on a few tens of thousands of doors...and used to cold call for appointments.

I think I've been rude to maybe ten times. I've had maybe two doors...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th January 2013, 08:57 AM
Replies: 18
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Views: 1,127
Posted By helisell
Re: Mass Emailer - Bulk emailing solution

100k

Makes no odds whether people consider it spam or not.
It simply won't work.

I know you'll try it anyway but really don't waste your time.

I know of a company who employed a list owner...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th January 2013, 01:28 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Re: John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

16123


we live in a world of technology, but sales must be guarded by men with phones.

Who’s gonna do it?

A content writer, an engineer,
a techie in fear of his own PC Shadow… that won’t...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd January 2013, 09:24 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Posted By John Durham
Re: John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

Thanks Ken... I try.

You are right, if people think Im cocky, then they havent worked in a real world call center yet ie:

Telemarketer: "The leads suck, this isnt working"

Manager: "are you...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd January 2013, 02:12 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 3,315
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: [2013] Making cash building websites offline. Best of all. Offering them free!

All I'm hearing is blah blah blah because everything you're mentioning is completely irrelevant to this thread and misguided at best. A free quote, free consultation, completely different than a free...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd January 2013, 01:37 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Posted By John Durham
Re: John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

Thank you Chris, if you read 2 posts above, maybe you can confirm what Im saying in it. I believe you read the bower report. Good to see you btw.

What Im defending is that some say Im lying about...
Forum: Offline Marketing 3rd January 2013, 01:25 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Posted By John Durham
Re: John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

Along those lines, I have people running all over the place saying "John Durham is lying and saying his own team sold 19,000 websites in a year"... When in fact the hundreds of people who bought the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 2nd January 2013, 05:41 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Posted By John Durham
Re: John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

Actually Bob (Jake), my wife and I were separated one time, during one of my endeavors, after I started building an offline business selling websites, I got obsessed with working and she thought I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 22nd December 2012, 10:30 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 3,215
Posted By TheCG
Re: Does It EVER Get EASIER?!?

Actually, this step is too late.

My advice is not to marry the b1tch in the first place.

...more advice from someone who has been there.
Forum: Offline Marketing 18th December 2012, 07:02 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 3,215
Posted By TheCG
Re: Does It EVER Get EASIER?!?

What I learned in a previous business I had was that 3k a week with a life is 10,000 times better than 100k a month with the hassle of employees, tremendous overhead and no life.

It is all about...
Forum: Offline Marketing 16th December 2012, 12:45 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 9,293
Posted By John Durham
John Durham: Entrepreneur, Telemarketing Expert, Warrior … OWNER OF MANY FAILURES.

Hey Warriors, I want to share something that is very close to my heart right now. This post isn’t about some secret skill, strategy, or a lesson on phone sales as usual. This post is for your...
Forum: Offline Marketing 7th December 2012, 01:31 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,365
Posted By KristofferIM
Having trouble selling premium listings in your local directory?

I've sold tons of premium listings in directory sites (cold calling).

If anyone's having problems with this. I'd be happy to help you out.

Ask your question here in the thread and I'll do my...
Forum: Offline Marketing 5th December 2012, 06:54 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,085
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: How Do I Prevent a Chargeback?

I don't believe in refunds and I don't think you should give in. You can fight the chargeback but it depends on who you used to process the payment to determine if you really have a chance to win. I...
Forum: Offline Marketing 30th November 2012, 02:25 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,787
Posted By startup
Re: Do I use work-from-home commission-only sales agents, OR get an office and get salaried salesman

I hired and trained sales people nationwide for years...

I would do NEITHER. salaried sales people are typically low producers or do the minimum...the very nature of being a salesman is to be...
Forum: Offline Marketing 28th November 2012, 08:47 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,787
Posted By John Durham
Re: Do I use work-from-home commission-only sales agents, OR get an office and get salaried salesman

a) Work-from-home, commission-only agents?

If you go this route you will have to recruit 100 people at a time, to get 3-5 great producing agents. This would cost you around $1,000 worth of...
Forum: Offline Marketing 28th November 2012, 07:00 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,787
Posted By misterme
Re: Do I use work-from-home commission-only sales agents, OR get an office and get salaried salesman

You probably don't need the office nor its overhead. You need the right people. Commissioned sales people, and you train them on how to sell your stuff. Working from home they're distracted and...
Forum: Offline Marketing 28th November 2012, 09:25 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,787
Posted By Claude Whitacre
Re: Do I use work-from-home commission-only sales agents, OR get an office and get salaried salesman

I have no idea how much office space costs in England.
But a small 800 square foot office could be furnished with good used office furniture (buy from closing offices, not dealers).

You won't...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th November 2012, 09:19 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,669
Posted By John Durham
Why Isnt My Directory Site Business Model Producing Customers?

I hear people all of the time saying that the directory model site wont sell unless you have traffic already.... or this wont sell or that wont sell, or this model didnt work, or that model didnt...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th October 2012, 07:28 AM
Replies: 46
Views: 2,512
Posted By bob ross
Re: Porsche Dealer Gets 32% response to this new style mailer

It's a real b*tch to use at first but mastic's "dream home" software can do incredibly realistic simulations of siding (including vinyl, stone, stucco, and different trim). It costs about $500 a year...
Forum: Offline Marketing 7th October 2012, 10:46 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,361
Posted By Voasi
Re: Paypal, Chargebacks and Protection...

I've fought lots of chargebacks and won. Actually, there aren't many that I've lost. My gal who handles it has our paperwork down to templates now.

It's different for different businesses, of...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th October 2012, 08:30 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,361
Posted By sandalwood
Re: Paypal, Chargebacks and Protection...

I've read all the remarks about charge backs (chbk) so I asked a guy who actually owns a merchant account business and does business all over the world. He sets up the riskiest of accounts (...
Forum: Offline Marketing 4th October 2012, 06:56 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,361
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Paypal, Chargebacks and Protection...

Why all the yelling?

Now, for someone selling merchant accounts, you should get your facts straight.

The federal laws are found in 15 United States Code §§ 1666, 1666i, and 1640(e) and in...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th July 2012, 12:58 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 4,192
Posted By iAmNameLess
Re: Cold calling: What is going wrong?

Geeze... they're at it again.

Pathetic..

Fake screen names to start useless threads with fake allegations and the same people trolling to try and start an argument.

I don't understand the...
Forum: Offline Marketing 13th July 2012, 12:25 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 4,192
Posted By kenmichaels
Re: Cold calling: What is going wrong?

i don't buy it bro.

There is no way anyone can talk to 400 people and NOT sell something.

even if you had the worst product, worst script, never ever even asked for the money
if you spoke to...
Forum: Offline Marketing 1st May 2012, 08:58 AM
Replies: 203
Views: 17,147
Posted By John Durham
Re: Directory Site Profits 102- The Continuation- Back To The Basics- and THEN Some!

I think what you are describing is an assumptive lead in. I wont write a whole pitch but it may start something like:

Hey Bob this is ________ calling with ______ Hope you are doing well today.
...
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