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Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th May 2016, 07:27 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 284
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Why isn't pay-per-call that popular?

Well, the closing rates with phone calls is WAY higher than any lead form, or sales page. It's night and day.

That's why pay-per-call networks tend to pay a generous amount.

I'm just...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th May 2016, 11:36 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 885
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Is a blog needed to sell products (digital products)?

Most youtubers make shyte.

It's a decent (though slow way) to build an organic following. But if money is your objective (and you have a product to sell), there are far better uses for your time....
Forum: Offline Marketing 30th October 2015, 12:18 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,748
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Newspapers Are The Thing...Again

^Lol.

When one speaks from a position of authority, it's generally best to back that up with a few personal experiences.

Anyhow, you're being awfully defensive about a guy you don't even...
Forum: Copywriting 28th October 2015, 07:08 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,767
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Has COPY become a "COMMODITY"?

Yes, it does. But you didn't refute my point, not many people are going to hire a copywriter to just write a squeeze page headline.

I'm going to bow out of this discussion though...

It's the...
Forum: Copywriting 31st May 2015, 07:41 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

^A bit late to join the bandwagon, isn't it?

But I'm sure you'll get a few virtual pats on the back from the established order here.

Seth will like your post. Mal will say, "Thata boy!". And...
Forum: Copywriting 31st May 2015, 06:37 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

I say a lot of funny things. Unfortunately, you botched the quote so none of us can be entertained.

But enough. I'm bored trading insults with a chap I don't respect. It's pointless, don't you...
Forum: Copywriting 31st May 2015, 02:57 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

I didn't read any dupes, mal. There isn't anything for me to read.

You can make your claims. I've read your copy. The profanity betrays a crass bogan (loads of them in CM unfortunately) who'd...
Forum: Copywriting 31st May 2015, 10:05 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

Sting, I'm not looking for clients in the copywriting section...

Aside from it being the lowest traffic section of the forum, I wouldn't want to work with most of the guys who post here.

A...
Forum: Copywriting 30th May 2015, 03:33 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

I didn't mean to be patronizing, hun. I'm sure you're a very gifted writer.

Who'd have thunk it?:eek:

You're entirely missing my point. If people don't have the attention span to read...
Forum: Copywriting 29th May 2015, 07:17 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Does long form sales copy still work?

Epic contradiction. But welcome to the mosh pit, sweet heart.

Let me see if I can break this down.

If people aren't reading page turners like Dan Brown(or whatever is in vogue these...
Forum: Copywriting 29th May 2015, 01:02 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Wow, MOST 17 tear olds like to read for pleasure.

I just checked that website out...what a vile conglomeration of hicks!

But I trust my bigotry towards them doesn't offend you? :D
Forum: Copywriting 29th May 2015, 10:20 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Wow, MOST 17 tear olds like to read for pleasure.

I was being dramatic..to point out the irony.

This is a profession built on mind-tricks and manipulating people to your own ends.

It's not a job for a monk.

But Cam, if you had any sense,...
Forum: Copywriting 28th May 2015, 08:41 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Wow, MOST 17 tear olds like to read for pleasure.

I'm a salesman. If I had any morals, I'd hide away in an ivory tower writing poetry.

But I don't just take advantage of the young. One of my most lucrative promotions was...power wheelchairs. :D...
Forum: Copywriting 28th May 2015, 08:10 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Wow, MOST 17 tear olds like to read for pleasure.

More dubious reading comprehension...

I never said long copy can't sell, but rather it's falling out of favor.

I can tell some guys here are paranoid about losing their bread and butter...
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Forum: Copywriting 27th May 2015, 10:18 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 4,570
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: The SECRET of the well fed copywriter.

I know that is sung like an anthem...but people do have limited attention spans. Mine gives way after an hour.

I'd rather read a 20-email series about my favourite subject, than the equivalent in...
Forum: Offline Marketing 20th May 2015, 05:20 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,488
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: A Naughty Way To Get A Targeted Mailing List --- For Free

Basically, I'd be one of their salesmen...just using direct-mail.

They'd get more sales. I'd get a sizable commision. Even naughtier, I could keep a record of those adresses for selling related...
Forum: Copywriting 20th May 2015, 11:44 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,959
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: So… I have Lupus (plus 3 easy tips for writing copy - without killing yourself. Literally.)

I don't post too often on the WF. But if there's a copywriter I've learned from the most here...it's Mark Pescetti.

There's a genuineness in his writing that's rare amongst copywriters. He's...
Forum: Copywriting 5th December 2014, 01:35 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 3,175
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Dare I Ask...? Yet Another WFH Critque Thread

Wow. I really appreciate the thoughtful (and brutal) critiques, guys.

Mal, after reading your post, I felt like I had gone a couple rounds with Mike Tyson.

Agonizing. But I agree with...
Forum: Copywriting 10th October 2014, 09:12 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 2,126
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: If You Were to Hire a Copywriting Pup, What Would You Look For?

"How To Burn Off Body Fat, Hour-By-Hour"? Phenomenal ad...

Truth be told, I learned more from breaking down that ad than reading entire books on writing copy.
Forum: Copywriting 2nd October 2014, 12:47 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,117
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Looking for a little help in choosing specialties.

I don't think honesty or sincerity need be an enigma in the profession. If anything, a copywriter who can convincingly demonstrate those qualities in his work has a lot of money coming their way.
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Forum: Copywriting 28th September 2014, 08:57 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,235
Posted By John Lloyd
Re: Critique Request Unlimited Success Program

Seconded.

You can't promise 'the world' and expect people to believe you. Your customers aren't that dumb.

If you narrowed down your target market and and the general scope of your product,...
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