Don't waste your money on Facebook likes!!

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Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!
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  • Profile picture of the author jordangracia
    Hi FASHIONONLINE! Here's an article that can help you.

    5 Ways How to Get a Huge Amount of Traffic from Facebook

    Facebook is an online social networking service headquartered in Menlo Park, California. Its name comes from a colloquialism for the directory given to students at some American universities. (wikipedia.org)

    Facebook is the most common social media platform as of today. Although there are other social media sites like Tumblr, Instagram and Twitter, Facebook still comes on top of the line. Facebook is easy to use and it is also easy to create connections. Facebook has the ability to share posts which is a good platform for online markets.

    Here are 5 ways on how to get a huge amount of traffic from Facebook.

    1. Regularly publish engaging content

    You have to be consistent by publishing content every now and then. Post as many as you can that is related to your contents. Make sure that everything you post is relevant and is making sense. Make sure that people could relate to your post so that they may be able to engage themselves into reading every content you post and share them to their friends and family on Facebook.

    2. Create Facebook Ads to increase website traffic

    Facebook is an easy platform for online marketing. Just post a picture with the link of your product, then people would be redirected to your website. People could also share the photo of your product together with it's description and share it with their friends who are as well interested to purchase whatever it is they saw on your page. Make it creative and fun so people would be encouraged to buy one, just by seeing your products photo.

    3. Add more friends and Socialize

    As what facebook is all about. it's a platform to socialize mainly. So add friends, create a group and socialize. In that way, you would get a chance to know people who are in the same boat as you are and are interested to the things you are interested too. Share ideas and ask for tips how to improve your online marketing strategies. Optimize facebook by not only engaging into the business but also into socializing to other people. When you already have a group of people that shares the same interest as you, it's time to drop the bomb and introduce them to your products.

    4. Target your ads

    You have to know the target of your advertisements. Know your product. Who will benefit more on your online market. Know who it is who would love to use your products, it could either be the male group, the female group, the older ones, or the younger ones. This is for you to know the theme to use and the strategies to apply when it comes to advertising your product.

    5. Accept negative and positive feedback

    It is easy to comment on Facebook, and sometime, it's easy to post either a positive feedback or a negative feedback on your wall. Therefore you have to accept them both and learn from every mistake you create. That way, you are listening to your customers advice as well as you are taking chances of improving your marketing strategies more.

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author iconoclast
    Yep, I just posted the same thing in another post. F.B. wants you to pay for exposure.
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  • Profile picture of the author dejaone
    Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

    Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

    I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

    Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

    So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!
    Totally agree. I stopped acquiring likes a year ago for two reasons:

    1) Organic reach will naturally decline as billions of likes generated every day.
    2) Facebook will cap the reach in order to boost the ad revenue no matter whatever engagement you're trying.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    This isn't news. The percentage of people that your posts are shown to by default is determined by how often your followers engage with you. If your posts are being shown to that few people, you need to work on increasing the quality/utility of your posts.

    Yes, Facebook is after your money, but you can increase your organic exposure by focusing on EdgeRank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emir Hayric
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      This isn't news. The percentage of people that your posts are shown to by default is determined by how often your followers engage with you. If your posts are being shown to that few people, you need to work on increasing the quality/utility of your posts.

      Yes, Facebook is after your money, but you can increase your organic exposure by focusing on EdgeRank.
      Precisely, understanding EdgeRank and how to improve it is essential to any successful FanPage.
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    • Profile picture of the author imraditya
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      This isn't news. The percentage of people that your posts are shown to by default is determined by how often your followers engage with you. If your posts are being shown to that few people, you need to work on increasing the quality/utility of your posts.

      Yes, Facebook is after your money, but you can increase your organic exposure by focusing on EdgeRank.
      Yes, i agree with you. If we build the relationship or edgerank, this issues will never happen. I already prove it.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoaceindia
    Thank you for this information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacomara
    Agree 100%. Facebook is really unreasonable when it comes to this, they punish the people who buy likes, but they forget about their customers that spent thousands on getting real likes. So annoying..........
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  • Profile picture of the author rimoboy
    My freinds told me as your pages still not verfied its reach still on up and down.
    so is that real ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Grey
    Well how serious is your page ? What about "Talking about" option. ?

    Honestly i don't belived facebook will restrict it per 200 users by that easy
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by Christian Grey View Post

      Well how serious is your page ? What about "Talking about" option. ?

      Honestly i don't belived facebook will restrict it per 200 users by that easy
      The "talking about" thing is gone, as far as I know.

      We post regularly, and get engagement, but still don't get any reach. Even paying for a boosted post is incredibly expensive when trying to reach the followers we paid for in the first place.

      Our most popular posts can reach upto 2000 people. 2000 out of 50 000. If that isn't BS, then I don't know what is!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bullvied
    I have 7k likes on one of my pages, and 200-1k+ see my post depending on how many people like/comment/share/click on the post.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by Bullvied View Post

      I have 7k likes on one of my pages, and 200-1k+ see my post depending on how many people like/comment/share/click on the post.
      Yes, that's the thing. It doesn't matter if you have 7k or 50k. They will show it to the same amount of people. Our page with 25K just similar amounts of views as our 50K page.

      So what I'm saying is, don't waste your money on getting more likes. They're worthless in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    For me, facebook likes is just a first step for your business. Facebook will not do the job for you, keep in mind that the only use of those ads you invested in is to get prospect clients; still, all will depend on your marketing strategies. Even if you invested on them and think that you have the right to complain, it doesn't mean that you can rely to them. But what you can do is to focus more on your strategies, focus on what you have and how you will profit on it.

    BTW, have you checked on other pages? I mean those who you think is more above than your business? Do you think their page is most likely to get viral than your page?

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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    I think that you failed in monetizing with FB ads. Many people succeed with FB ads and make money with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshsiaw
    Like what one of the previous posters said, FB likes are a means to an end. I assume you have a proper funnel to capitalize on the people who like you page (squeeze page, etc.)

    If you want to increase engagement, try using the boost feature. Just $5 will do wonders. I increase the exposure and engagement on one of my posts by 10 times just by doing that. Sure, you do have to pay but like I said, if it achieves your goal at the end of the day whether it's sales or opt ins then I'd say it's worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by joshsiaw View Post

      Like what one of the previous posters said, FB likes are a means to an end. I assume you have a proper funnel to capitalize on the people who like you page (squeeze page, etc.)

      If you want to increase engagement, try using the boost feature. Just $5 will do wonders. I increase the exposure and engagement on one of my posts by 10 times just by doing that. Sure, you do have to pay but like I said, if it achieves your goal at the end of the day whether it's sales or opt ins then I'd say it's worth it.
      The price of boosted posts varies a lot.
      If I put in $5, it tells me it will be shown to "170-450" people.. wtf is that? out of the 50K followers I have!
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  • Profile picture of the author melvinsh
    It really depends, I know some with just 1000 facebook fans that stay engaged and very supportive of their business. The views have gone down but does not mean you cannot monetize them.

    It may work better with certain types of businesses. Smaller niche, fashion industry is very competitive and people tend to go with bigger brands.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by melvinsh View Post

      It really depends, I know some with just 1000 facebook fans that stay engaged and very supportive of their business. The views have gone down but does not mean you cannot monetize them.

      It may work better with certain types of businesses. Smaller niche, fashion industry is very competitive and people tend to go with bigger brands.
      Yeah, it works great for news sites, blogs etc (noticed how all of them are now becoming tabloids because that's what people click and engage with)?
      For brands/stores etc, it's a completely different story..
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
        Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

        Yeah, it works great for news sites, blogs etc (noticed how all of them are now becoming tabloids because that's what people click and engage with)?
        For brands/stores etc, it's a completely different story..
        At some point, Facebook will have to justify why their ads are a waste of money, yet they are constantly restricting who can see your content in their feeds. In the golden days, a fan of your page, would see every post you made and that's how it should be now. People will like your page if they want to see more and don't realize that only a fraction of what you are posting is ending up in their feed. You just have to tell them this.
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        • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
          Originally Posted by JohnnyPlan View Post

          At some point, Facebook will have to justify why their ads are a waste of money, yet they are constantly restricting who can see your content in their feeds. In the golden days, a fan of your page, would see every post you made and that's how it should be now. People will like your page if they want to see more and don't realize that only a fraction of what you are posting is ending up in their feed. You just have to tell them this.
          Totally agree with you. These people choose to get your news, but they aren't getting them.. it's bs
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  • Profile picture of the author MWatson
    Sounds like you don't have the necessary requirements to get the most out of facebooks timeline algorithm.

    This may help: INFOGRAPHIC: Understanding Facebook’s Post-Sorting Algorithm - AllFacebook

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    • Profile picture of the author iluvatoq
      If you know how to advertise on facebook .. it works
      You just have to find the good stuff and learn from your mistakes
      See below for a single ad i am running on facebook .

      Facebook ad stats
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      22.675 targetted clicks for 0.01 / click ... tell me where you get that kind of traffic ?
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      • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
        Originally Posted by iluvatoq View Post

        If you know how to advertise on facebook .. it works
        You just have to find the good stuff and learn from your mistakes
        See below for a single ad i am running on facebook .

        Facebook ad stats
        http://i61.tinypic.com/15fn7et.jpg

        22.675 targetted clicks for 0.01 / click ... tell me where you get that kind of traffic ?
        This gave me

        Likes / shares on post
        Website visits
        Page likes
        I never said the problem was the advertising. Clicks to websites work great.
        I am saying that it's a waste to use ads to get Likes to your page, as you can't do anything with these likes once u have them.
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        • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
          Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

          I never said the problem was the advertising. Clicks to websites work great.
          I am saying that it's a waste to use ads to get Likes to your page, as you can't do anything with these likes once u have them.
          Yes, you can. As long as you're posting good content, the likes you've purchased will engage with the content and more and more people will see it. You say not to waste money on likes, but if you use the likes you've purchased the right way, you can make far more money from them than what it costs to buythem. I have pages I've spent $500 on likes for that are making me thousands per month after advertising costs are factored in.

          Buying likes is still working very well for me in many of my niches. I buy likes until the engagement on the page takes off and then let it continue growing organically as I post great content to it. One of my top pages is currently gaining 1K+ organic likes per week and I haven't purchased likes for it for months. The page has around 35K likes and I regularly see posts that reach 30K+ people with some posts reaching far more than that if they go viral.

          You can't buy likes from Facebook anymore and assume all of your likes are going to see all of your posts, but you can tilt the odds in your favor by posting original content that people are interested in. It won't happen overnight, but post a few posts that go viral and your engagement will go through the roof. You can help this along by advertising shirts and products that get a lot of likes and engagement.

          Another huge benefit to me, and this is the main reason I create pages, is that once you've built up an active page, you now have a group of fans who nobody else can market to the same way you can. Sure, they can target similar interests, but you're able to target people you know were interested in this topic enough to like your page and are actively engaged with it.
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          • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
            Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

            Yes, you can. As long as you're posting good content, the likes you've purchased will engage with the content and more and more people will see it. You say not to waste money on likes, but if you use the likes you've purchased the right way, you can make far more money from them than what it costs to buythem. I have pages I've spent $500 on likes for that are making me thousands per month after advertising costs are factored in.

            Buying likes is still working very well for me in many of my niches. I buy likes until the engagement on the page takes off and then let it continue growing organically as I post great content to it. One of my top pages is currently gaining 1K+ organic likes per week and I haven't purchased likes for it for months. The page has around 35K likes and I regularly see posts that reach 30K+ people with some posts reaching far more than that if they go viral.

            You can't buy likes from Facebook anymore and assume all of your likes are going to see all of your posts, but you can tilt the odds in your favor by posting original content that people are interested in. It won't happen overnight, but post a few posts that go viral and your engagement will go through the roof. You can help this along by advertising shirts and products that get a lot of likes and engagement.

            Another huge benefit to me, and this is the main reason I create pages, is that once you've built up an active page, you now have a group of fans who nobody else can market to the same way you can. Sure, they can target similar interests, but you're able to target people you know were interested in this topic enough to like your page and are actively engaged with it.
            Interesting.
            What kind of pages do you have? What niche etc?
            I think facebook pages still work great for blogs/news sites, but for a clothing brand, we can't really just put up memes and news stories, as we also have to think about branding..
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        • Profile picture of the author IMXL
          Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

          I never said the problem was the advertising. Clicks to websites work great.
          I am saying that it's a waste to use ads to get Likes to your page, as you can't do anything with these likes once u have them.
          People who have liked your page convert at much higher levels than people who haven't. Jon Loomer got nearly 46 times the cost of his ads just focusing on his fans:

          How I Got 35X ROI on Facebook Ads - Jon Loomer Digital

          According to facebook, you can target people who like your page like this:

          "Target your ad to people who currently like your Page using connections targeting. In the Audience section of the ads create flow, scroll down to Connections and choose Only people connected to [your Page name]. You can also choose Advanced connection targeting to target people who are connected to other Pages, apps or events you manage."
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          • Profile picture of the author iconoclast
            Originally Posted by IMXL View Post

            People who have liked your page convert at much higher levels than people who haven't. Jon Loomer got nearly 46 times the cost of his ads just focusing on his fans:

            How I Got 35X ROI on Facebook Ads - Jon Loomer Digital

            According to facebook, you can target people who like your page like this:

            "Target your ad to people who currently like your Page using connections targeting. In the Audience section of the ads create flow, scroll down to Connections and choose Only people connected to [your Page name]. You can also choose Advanced connection targeting to target people who are connected to other Pages, apps or events you manage."
            Thanks, good info. I wonder if we can specifically target other peoples fan pages?
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            • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
              Originally Posted by iconoclast View Post

              Thanks, good info. I wonder if we can specifically target other peoples fan pages?
              Yes, you can "almost" do this. If you enter the page name in "Interests" and it shows up, it works. Seems a bit random which fan pages it works on.
              Also, if I understand it correctly, you don't get just specifically those fans, but u get "people who like the page and other relevant pages" (or something like that)
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  • Profile picture of the author giggles58
    agree with you 100% so much money spend and nothing gained
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I wouldn't ignore getting likes but I wouldn't make it the focus of an online business either. I have 70k fans in one niche that consistently generates decent traffic to my site daily, but it's one traffic source of many. They all add up.

    I typically use clicks to website with Facebook ads and still get quite a few new fans per day as a by-product of the ads... So I post frequently to my page because it is traffic and revenue.
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    I totaly agree with you man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author eurohttp
    Can't really be sure. Not part of Facebook. But I can trust you on the word. Maybe its not Facebook's fault? Maybe they didn't wanted that way. And maybe it will be changed in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidpham
    I think you are right. FB want to make money so they will never promote for you without paying.
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    I'm not going to give away my niches, but they range across a wide variety of markets and none of them are for blogs/news sites. I sell a ton of physical products, clothing items included, via Facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

      I'm not going to give away my niches, but they range across a wide variety of markets and none of them are for blogs/news sites. I sell a ton of physical products, clothing items included, via Facebook.
      Not "give away your niches"?
      It's not like I would quit doing my clothing line and copy whatever it is you're doing :p

      I'm just trying to find out how to do this, and wonder if I could learn something from you.
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      • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
        Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

        Not "give away your niches"?
        It's not like I would quit doing my clothing line and copy whatever it is you're doing :p

        I'm just trying to find out how to do this, and wonder if I could learn something from you.
        You might not, but there are countless others here who would. I'm willing to answer any questions you might have, except for the niches I'm targeting. You can still learn something, just not my niches...
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        • Profile picture of the author iconoclast
          Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

          You might not, but there are countless others here who would. I'm willing to answer any questions you might have, except for the niches I'm targeting. You can still learn something, just not my niches...
          I for one, would like to steal your niches.
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          • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
            Originally Posted by iconoclast View Post

            I for one, would like to steal your niches.
            See, I knew it!
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        • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
          Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

          You might not, but there are countless others here who would. I'm willing to answer any questions you might have, except for the niches I'm targeting. You can still learn something, just not my niches...
          Could you give some examples of the types of posts you do that gets engagement on your clothing-related pages?
          Any tips on what/how to post?
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  • Profile picture of the author kiddoman
    So, the "reach" number at the bottom of each post is not real, right? Only when we pay for FB and then we can get more exposure? If so, I am really disappointed and think that Google is a much much better traffic source than Facebook.
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    Thanks for your kind information fashiononline
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialSEOs
    That's why it's best to stop relying so much on these 3rd Party Platforms. Once they got you by the balls they can squeeze them as hard as they want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnTheRun
    I have never in my life paid for an ad campaign, and still managed to get to almost 1,000 likes on one of my Facebook pages.
    I can't say I have the secret to success, far from it, all I did was post updates regularly, try to engage my fans, use pretty pictures in each post
    I'm not saying this will definitely work, but maybe it can at least help someone.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlbertRaj123
    Facebook is charging only for increasing likes.
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    Sure...I sell clothing items that have the potential to go viral with my target markets. For example, if I were to create a Walking Dead page, I would sell clothing items like shirts, sweats, headbands and any other related clothing items that I could create or find affiliate programs for. I've had really good luck lately posting memes that go viral and then creating shirts out of those memes. To be clear, I don't have a Walking Dead page that I'm promoting items on...My niches are far removed from TV shows and this is just an example.

    As far as selling clothing items that aren't niche-related, you've got to figure out a way to get them to go viral. People on Facebook love to like and share items they think are cool or that they feel are great deals. If you're selling items your fans (or people you run ads to) absolutely love, you should be able to post pictures of the items you're selling with a link back to your site and run post engagement or CPC ads and sell plenty of them.

    Without knowing what you're selling, it's going to be tough to give you any advice. If you're selling run of the mill clothing items or your prices are above what people think they should be paying, you're going to have a tough time. People on Facebook will pull their wallets out, but only if you present them with a deal they can't pass up or an item that's so cool they have to buy it.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

      Sure...I sell clothing items that have the potential to go viral with my target markets. For example, if I were to create a Walking Dead page, I would sell clothing items like shirts, sweats, headbands and any other related clothing items that I could create or find affiliate programs for. I've had really good luck lately posting memes that go viral and then creating shirts out of those memes. To be clear, I don't have a Walking Dead page that I'm promoting items on...My niches are far removed from TV shows and this is just an example.

      As far as selling clothing items that aren't niche-related, you've got to figure out a way to get them to go viral. People on Facebook love to like and share items they think are cool or that they feel are great deals. If you're selling items your fans (or people you run ads to) absolutely love, you should be able to post pictures of the items you're selling with a link back to your site and run post engagement or CPC ads and sell plenty of them.

      Without knowing what you're selling, it's going to be tough to give you any advice. If you're selling run of the mill clothing items or your prices are above what people think they should be paying, you're going to have a tough time. People on Facebook will pull their wallets out, but only if you present them with a deal they can't pass up or an item that's so cool they have to buy it.
      Thanks a lot! That's really great info.

      I think the problem is that my label isn't niche-related. It's "streetwear", which is very broad. It used to sell amazing, when Facebook was showing my post to more people, but we're struggling a bit now that we have to fight for attention on facebook.
      I might have to rethink the branding of my label, and somehow connect it to a niche/lifestyle. Then I would also have more stuff to post..
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      • Profile picture of the author jojo khan
        they only charge for increase likes on your page it is upto you that how to represent it by the way you can use addmefast for likes it is totally free
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Ray
    I wish I could remember the URL for a video I watched some time back about FB likes, but essentially it came down to this:

    No matter where you buy your FB likes from (directly from FB or a outside source) or the countries you choose in your ads you still get a high number of people who simply "like everything". Even from countries like the US, Canada and the UK.

    So if you are going to increase your FB likes, the best option is via FB... but watch your numbers and see how may people are really interacting with your posts
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  • Profile picture of the author 1stepahead2016
    Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

    Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

    I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

    Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

    So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!

    Thanks for the info!
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  • Profile picture of the author AllenBrayan
    A read this story the other day, about a guy who use to work in a gas station and later made a million bucks from selling his products thorough Facebook.

    So it's safe to say that if utilized properly Facebook can still prove to be worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnaal
    I think the problem occurs from Facebook Likes Service provider. I have a small business and I buy likes, followers, reviews from different website. But not satisfied. Then my friend send me this website name Social Web Promoter and I really got as I want.
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  • Profile picture of the author yoangov
    If you are not ready to "pay to play" Facebook, then don't join the game... this is the reality, and we can't change it unfortunately.
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  • Profile picture of the author eham
    yes you are right
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    • Profile picture of the author Emir Hayric
      Originally Posted by eham View Post

      yes you are right
      Some serious thought went into that reply huh?

      Dude quit stopping into threads and posting lame comments just to get your post count up.
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      • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
        Originally Posted by Emir Hayric View Post

        Some serious thought went into that reply huh?

        Dude quit stopping into threads and posting lame comments just to get your post count up.
        They're all over the place now...It's a hassle to have to sort through a bunch of mindless comments just to get to the select few good ones in a thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexchen23
    Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

    Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

    I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

    Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

    So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!
    Wow, thanks for your information.

    Save my money and time.
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    Fb is a world wide so Reach ur Add for World.....



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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    This should teach you a very important lesson. You should never depend on Facebook alone but try to build a personally-owned list of people. When you run Facebook ad campaigns, not only get people to like your posts and stuff, but also try to get them onto your mailing list as soon as possible so that you are not left to the whims and fancies of these social media sites with their never ending stream of rule-changes.

    Do not stop advertising on Facebook or getting likes, but do not depend entirely on it. Try to get these people on to your list by whatever means of enticing them that you can think of. You should be able to come up with good, attractive incentives if you know your niche and target audience nicely.

    Hope this advice helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      This should teach you a very important lesson. You should never depend on Facebook alone but try to build a personally-owned list of people. When you run Facebook ad campaigns, not only get people to like your posts and stuff, but also try to get them onto your mailing list as soon as possible so that you are not left to the whims and fancies of these social media sites with their never ending stream of rule-changes.

      Do not stop advertising on Facebook or getting likes, but do not depend entirely on it. Try to get these people on to your list by whatever means of enticing them that you can think of. You should be able to come up with good, attractive incentives if you know your niche and target audience nicely.

      Hope this advice helps.
      Thanks a lot, this does help!

      And you are right, I have definitely been depending too much on Facebook in the past, and haven't really build my email list at all :/ not very smart, considering the high number of facebook fans I have, and the tiny tiny email list I have.
      Any tips on how to get this going?
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      • Profile picture of the author Geechi
        Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

        Thanks a lot, this does help!

        And you are right, I have definitely been depending too much on Facebook in the past, and haven't really build my email list at all :/ not very smart, considering the high number of facebook fans I have, and the tiny tiny email list I have.
        Any tips on how to get this going?
        Try offering something for FREE and link your post to a squeeze page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

    Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

    I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

    Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

    So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!
    Great advise.
    I still use facebook but instead of creating pages, I just put a "share" button on my posts and the result is always viral.....
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  • Profile picture of the author TsuGuide
    One of the many reasons people are leaving to new social networks like ello and tsu. However, Facebook will have a difficult time competing with tsu who is already rewarding their users with 90% ad revenue royalties wrapped around the views their content generates. If you are not on there yet and are looking for information visit Tsu Guide.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunmitchell
    I think there is actually a case to keep a page likes down to a minimum and build a mass audience through a group... that way you don't have to keep boosting posts and most people get notification from a group.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geechi
    My thoughts are; if you post quality content and focus on getting likes instead, then your post/page will have a better chance for ranking in the search engines. Social Media SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author markeeter
      Originally Posted by Geechi View Post

      My thoughts are; if you post quality content and focus on getting likes instead, then your post/page will have a better chance for ranking in the search engines. Social Media SEO.
      Yeah but in Facebook your message won't reach all your audience, you'll have to pay to boost your post. I think its better to have multiple social accounts then one. We can easily manage them today with tools like dosocial now can't we. So why put all our eggs in one basket?
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  • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
    Just to follow up on my OP.
    I ran an ad ("Boosted Post") that is targeted just to my followers. It had over 11% CTR, which should be a very good sign. Still, Facebook charge me CPM $5,79.
    That means, if I want this one post to be seen by all my followers (followers I paid a lot to acquire, and who have, by Liking the page, opted in to see my posts), it would cost me $289,5. PER POST!!!
    Thanks a lot, Facebook!
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    • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
      Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

      Just to follow up on my OP.
      I ran an ad ("Boosted Post") that is targeted just to my followers. It had over 11% CTR, which should be a very good sign. Still, Facebook charge me CPM $5,79.
      That means, if I want this one post to be seen by all my followers (followers I paid a lot to acquire, and who have, by Liking the page, opted in to see my posts), it would cost me $289,5. PER POST!!!
      Thanks a lot, Facebook!
      How long did you let the ad run for and how much did you spend? Sometimes it takes a day or two for Facebook to get the ad optimized and clicking along at a lower rate.
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      • Profile picture of the author fashiononline
        Originally Posted by miklanderson2 View Post

        How long did you let the ad run for and how much did you spend? Sometimes it takes a day or two for Facebook to get the ad optimized and clicking along at a lower rate.
        It's been going for about a week, at $10 per day. CPM seems to be quite stable at $5-6.
        Even though the audience is far from exhausted, the frequency is increasing. So basically, they're showing the same post to the same people several times, instead of showing it to everyone. Pulling my hair!
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  • Profile picture of the author annewilliams123
    Buying likes on facebook is not really a good deal as after buying you will not get the engagement on facebook. And, even buying real and good engagement on facebook may decrease the fans after buying a page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emir Hayric
      Originally Posted by annewilliams123 View Post

      Buying likes on facebook is not really a good deal as after buying you will not get the engagement on facebook. And, even buying real and good engagement on facebook may decrease the fans after buying a page.
      I agree to some point but there are still a LOT of people making good money on FB albeit less money and having to work harder for it. Less competition for them!
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    so is the "boosting" your post just paying FB to publish the post to more people who already like your page?

    I did a FB ad to promote a warehouse sale event yesterday but got zero response so far.

    I'll probably get more activity for my sale, from my craigslist posts that are free.


    I see why most people still try and stick to personal pages to reach 100% of friends, until they get too big.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamecater
    Yep, I just posted the same thing in another post. F.B. wants you to pay for exposure.
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  • Profile picture of the author markeeter
    There are some pretty arguments here, and I think both sides are right to some extent. As for my experience, I have seen that while Facebook shows my post to less people, I can still get some decent traffic if those people are willing to share my post.

    Its not something big, but I guess if you can make something that gets shared alot then it might be worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author healthynow
    Originally Posted by fashiononline View Post

    Please learn from my mistake, DON'T waste your money on facebook followers!!

    I have two pages, one with 50K followers and one with 25K. They are all real followers, obtained by expensive facebook ad campaign.

    Now, even with that many followers, Facebook only shows our posts to 50-200 people. We post regularly, we have engagement (likes and comments), but still aren't shown to many people.

    So don't waste your money on facebook likes. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 100 000 followers. They won't see what you post anyways!
    From what I do understand, one would have to spend as many hours posting on fb to advertise (a specific method, which I leaned on a blogging platform which name I will not mention) in order to gradually get enough volume that may turnover enough sales. I know of at least one guy who mastered it, and he took what he learned and created a program from it. It's still simply way too much time than I'd like to spend on fb.

    I do agree that some sales using fb are better than no sales!
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    FB ads have been a money pit for us no matter how much we optimize it. Our Facebook sales, and organic visitors seem to have actually decreased since and after we began advertising.
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  • Profile picture of the author sujatasharma
    Facebook likes and ads better for fashion category, because on facebook millions of peoples likes fashion brand and all the latest fashion. Real Likes are netter for your business and your own popularity.
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    • Profile picture of the author healthynow
      Originally Posted by sujatasharma View Post

      Facebook likes and ads better for fashion category, because on facebook millions of peoples likes fashion brand and all the latest fashion. Real Likes are netter for your business and your own popularity.
      Sujatasharma, I can see how fashion more than any other category can draw more popularity than other markets. The newsfeed on fb shows that! Great point!
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  • Yes, if you pay for all those followers and likes then you will still have to pay to advertise your posts to them. Might as well just pay once to get them to follow you in the first place
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