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Fake Twitter Followers Can Work. So Listen Up Or Leave This Thread Alone. Thanks

by Dano101
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Okay boys and girls. We all know that Twitter and any other reputable company, Plus most reputable members on the Warriors Forum is always going to be against Fake Twitter Followers and Fake Facebook likes , etc.

Plus we all know that reputable businesses also laugh at us for the thoughts of buying 1000 likes or followers.

But I will now tell you why it may be necessary to buy a MINIMUM SET of LIKES OR FOLLOWERS TO HELP YOU GET THE JUMP START ( while not over doing it )

So Listen up.

Okay. You want likes on Facebook. Plus you want followers on Twitter.

Now you may have good content and products; But no one knows you.

So you decide to start a Facebook or Twitter campaign to build your likes and following.

But the people you may approach may tell you to gfy since they don't see others following you.

So this is the primary reason why it's not so bad to buy a couple of fake likes or followers.

Now I'm not saying go from 1 follower to 1 million over night. Especially since you will now get exploited and possibly banned from whatever site.

But if you keep the bull crap likes and followers to a bare minimum. Then you may be able to attract more people; Since they see that others follow or like your page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

      NOW I KNOW THAT YOU And yOUR THANK YOU COMRADES ARE BS AND ALL IN 1. LOL.

      DUDE.

      I JUST POSTED MY ORIGINAL CONTENT 2 SECONDS AGO.

      BUT A SECOND LATER. YOU HAD 5 PEOPLE SAY Thanks to your bs reply a mili second later.

      SO IMO. I'M A NEWBIE AND YOU HAVE FRAUDULENT ACCOUNTS THAT BACK YOU IN 1 SECOND.
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        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        NOW I KNOW THAT YOU Are YOUR THANK YOU COMRADES ARE BS AND ALL IN 1. LOL.

        DUDE.

        I JUST POSTED MY ORIGINAL CONTENT 2 SECONDS AGO.

        BUT A SECOND LATER. YOU HAD 5 PEOPLE SAY Thanks to your bs reply a mili second later.

        SO IMO. I'M A NEWBIE AND YOU HAVE FRAUDULENT ACCOUNTS THAT BACK YOU IN 1 SECOND.
        I think you just called me a fraudulent account simply because I hit the Thanks button on a reply? There are many, many Warriors here that know I am a real person with ONE account. I do not know David and do not have any affiliation with him. I watched the 40 second video and it was very funny so I thanked him for posting it.

        Peace.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        NOW I KNOW THAT YOU Are YOUR THANK YOU COMRADES ARE BS AND ALL IN 1. LOL.

        DUDE.

        I JUST POSTED MY ORIGINAL CONTENT 2 SECONDS AGO.

        BUT A SECOND LATER. YOU HAD 5 PEOPLE SAY Thanks to your bs reply a mili second later.

        SO IMO. I'M A NEWBIE AND YOU HAVE FRAUDULENT ACCOUNTS THAT BACK YOU IN 1 SECOND.
        There's currently over 8,000 people on this site, and over 1,000 here in the Main forum. Just because some of us are able to think and type quickly doesn't mean that we're sock puppets.

        The Big Bang clip was meant to poke fun at people who care more about the numbers than with actual engagement. Two people (not five) out of the 8,000 seemed to agree, and it was within minutes, not milliseconds.

        We're all trying to communicate the same issue here, that buying likes/followers/whatever is disingenuous. It doesn't matter if you're buying ten or ten thousand; robots are not going to help your cause. It's called social media because you need to be social, and that in turn requires real live human beings.
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  • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
    Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

    But I will now tell you why it may be necessary to buy a MINIMUM SET of LIKES OR FOLLOWERS TO HELP YOU GET THE JUMP START ( while not over doing it )
    That won't work because those "likes" or "followers" aren't real, and as a result won't engage with your posts or tweets.

    If you don't have engagement, your posts will get almost zero organic reach - in other words, you'll kill your chances of building a following organically.


    Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

    But if you keep the bull crap likes and followers to a bare minimum. Then you may be able to attract more people; Since they see that others follow or like your page.
    I think it's "bull crap" to say something is bull crap yet recommend it in small measure.


    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

      That won't work because those "likes" or "followers" aren't real, and as a result won't engage with your posts or tweets.

      If you don't have engagement, your posts will get almost zero organic reach - in other words, you'll kill your chances of building a following organically.




      I think it's "bull crap" to say something is bull crap yet recommend it in small measure.


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      Daniel
      Can you stop hating for once.

      I simply said that buying too many followers or likes are bs.

      But I also simply stated that if you want to entice new followers or members. Then it could be best to to show a couple of likes or followers.
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      • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        Can you stop hating for once.

        I simply said that buying too many followers or likes are bs.

        But I also simply stated that if you want to entice new followers or members. Then it could be best to to show a couple of likes or followers.
        I'm not "hating"... you're suggesting something that's a terrible idea, and I'm trying to help you and other newbies to avoid making such a mistake.

        So this is the primary reason why it's not so bad to buy a couple of fake likes or followers.
        All I did was point out that buying likes/followers won't work if you want to build a following organically.

        What's so bad about pointing that out?

        Daniel
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        So Listen Up Or Leave This Thread Alone.
        OP seems to be a nice kid .......
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

      That won't work because those "likes" or "followers" aren't real, and as a result won't engage with your posts or tweets.

      If you don't have engagement, your posts will get almost zero organic reach - in other words, you'll kill your chances of building a following organically.




      I think it's "bull crap" to say something is bull crap yet recommend it in small measure.


      Regards,
      Daniel
      Of course the likes are fake. Wtf

      Do you think Mcdonalds sell real hamburgers from actual cow meat as well.

      So it's obviously not if the commercial is real.

      Because it's simply about those that will follow along.
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      • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        Of course the likes are fake. Wtf

        Do you think Mcdonalds sell real hamburgers from actual cow meat as well.

        So it's obviously not if the commercial is real.

        Because it's simply about thoes that will follow along.
        Dano101, I understand where you're coming from but that's not how social media engagement works.

        Celebrities and big businesses like McDonald's are already well-known, with or without social media.

        If YOU are not famous (which I'm sure you're not, neither am I), then you'll have to approach building a following in a legitimate way so as to create and retain engagement on your social media profiles.

        Using Facebook as an example, if you buy a bunch of likes, none of those "people" who liked your page will interact with your posts - whether it be to like the posts, comment on them, or share them.

        That means your page will have no engagement, and Facebook will stop showing your pages in people's newsfeeds, even to those who did genuinely "like" your page.

        That's why "buying" likes and followers is a terrible social media plan if you're trying to build a following, and you're not already famous.

        Daniel
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        • Profile picture of the author Dano101
          Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

          Dano101, I understand where you're coming from but that's not how social media engagement works.

          Celebrities and big businesses like McDonald's are already well-known, with or without social media.

          If YOU are not famous (which I'm sure you're not, neither am I), then you'll have to approach building a following in a legitimate way so as to create and retain engagement on your social media profiles.

          Using Facebook as an example, if you buy a bunch of likes, none of those "people" who liked your page will interact with your posts - whether it be to like the posts, comment on them, or share them.

          That means your page will have no engagement, and Facebook will stop showing your pages in people's newsfeeds, even to those who did genuinely "like" your page.

          That's why "buying" likes and followers is a terrible social media plan if you're trying to build a following, and you're not already famous.

          Daniel
          Thanks my friend. You kept it honest to all.

          I just hate when others bash a topic for anti troll purposes.

          While not realizing that the OP was not trolling at all. But simply started a conversation for conversational purposes.

          Thank you for the neutral aspect of things.

          Much oblige.
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          • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
            Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

            But simply started a conversation for conversational purposes.
            Conversations involve multiple perspectives. You were the one who set (changed?) the subject line to, "So Listen Up Or Leave This Thread Alone."

            There is actually zero trolling going on in this thread. Just opinions to which you clearly disagree.

            That happens in normal social interaction, no matter what the platform.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dano101
              Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

              Conversations involve multiple perspectives. You were the one who set (changed?) the subject line to, "So Listen Up Or Leave This Thread Alone."

              There is actually zero trolling going on in this thread. Just opinions to which you clearly disagree.

              That happens in normal social interaction, no matter what the platform.
              Okay. My friend.

              So tell me what am I trying to sell you.

              Show me the links or sigs. Especially since you think that I am here to sell something.


              Or better yet. Break down my OP and tell me where i went wrong

              In all honesty.

              None of you have never broken down nor totally analyze my original post before replying.

              So I can clearly see. THAT 98% of you Simply seen the Thread Title And just JUMPed in.

              While having your friends give you thanks.

              But forget the thanks.

              You still have a job to do.

              Now take my original post which is #1 and tell me whatever.

              So. Break it down.

              Especially since that I have already said that buying likes could be bs. While still analysing that buying a minimum amount of followers can may still work.
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              • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
                Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

                Okay. My friend.

                So tell me what am I trying to sell you.

                Show me the links or sigs. Especially since you think that I am here to sell something.
                Not once did I ever accuse you of selling anything. In fact, this whole thread seems to be one of the few here that actually involve true discussion. It's a shame that you're responding so defensively, but that's your choice.

                Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

                Or better yet. Break down my OP and tell me where i went wrong

                In all honesty.

                None of you have never broken down nor totally analyze my original post before replying.

                So I can clearly see. THAT 98% of you Simply seen the Thread Title And just JUMPed in.

                While having your friends give you thanks.

                But forget the thanks.

                You still have a job to do.

                Now take my original post which is #1 and tell me whatever.

                So. Break it down.

                Especially since that I have already said that buying likes could be bs. While still analysing that buying a minimum amount of followers can may still work.
                I already did respond to your basic premise, as did many others here. Almost all of us disagree with it, and give a variety of good reasons to back our respective opinions. I'm not going to repeat what's already been said.

                You don't have to agree with anyone, of course. But you do have a lot of smart people who are all trying to show you why real people trump robots, and it seems that you're not even willing to listen to them.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dano101
                  Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

                  Not once did I ever accuse you of selling anything. In fact, this whole thread seems to be one of the few here that actually involve true discussion. It's a shame that you're responding so defensively, but that's your choice.



                  I already did respond to your basic premise, as did many others here. Almost all of us disagree with it, and give a variety of good reasons to back our respective opinions. I'm not going to repeat what's already been said.

                  You don't have to agree with anyone, of course. But you do have a lot of smart people who are all trying to show you why real people trump robots, and it seems that you're not even willing to listen to them.
                  Thanks. I know robot traffic for sure .

                  But my thread title also stated do not reply if you don't want to flow with the idea of this discussion.

                  So in all honesty. I'm not blaming you persay.

                  I'm just mad that once again.

                  I make a thread without spamming nor advertising anything. While the old heads consistently try to bash my thread without looking at my posts that I made on other threads.

                  So Example.

                  I have stated on other threads that bot traffic is fraudulent.

                  But now I'm saying that some minimum bot twitter followers may work to help you get people that do not check every single follower before they follow you themselves.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dano101
        I dare anyone of you supposedly senior members to copy my original first post and explain why That I'm wrong.

        So please break it down.

        Now we all know that bot likes or followers are bs.

        But we also know that gaining a organic community; It's important to let prospective followers know that we have at least some minimum backing.

        So I'm not saying that we should buy 1 million followers to mislead people while starting our campaigns.

        I'm just saying that some people will join along with your social media Strictly if they believe and strictly if they see that you have at least some type of following.
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        • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
          Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

          I dare anyone of you supposedly senior members to copy my original first post and explain why That I'm wrong.

          So please break it down.
          Re-read my last post on this thread - the one I made just before this post.

          You'll kill your organic reach through social media if you buy likes or followers as none of these accounts will interact with your page.

          Daniel
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          • Profile picture of the author Dano101
            Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

            Re-read my last post on this thread - the one I made just before this post.

            You'll kill your organic reach through social media if you buy likes or followers as none of these accounts will interact with your page.

            Daniel
            Dude. Please reread the post.

            We all know what's bot traffic and how it can kill your business.

            We also know that my first post states that a minimum amount of bot traffic can help gain perspective followers that you are gunning for.

            Especially since they will not sit there and try to analyze your whole followers.

            BTW. DO YOU THINK THAT UNDERCOVER NARCOTICS COPS HAVE 1 MILLION VERIFIED DEALS OR CLIENTS; BEFORE SELLING SOMEONE ON WHY THEY SHOULD DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

              Dude. Please reread the post.

              We all know what's bot traffic and how it can kill your business.

              We also know that my first post states that a minimum amount of bot traffic can help gain perspective followers that you are gunning for.

              Especially since they will not sit there and try to analyze your whole followers.

              BTW. DO YOU THINK THAT UNDERCOVER NARCOTICS COPS HAVE 1 MILLION VERIFIED DEALS OR CLIENTS; BEFORE SELLING SOMEONE ON WHY THEY SHOULD DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.
              Just stop. it is clearly you that doesn't understand what we are trying to tell you. Our point has nothing to do with "prospective" followers "analyzing" anything. We are talking about algorithms that Facebook uses to determine how many people even see your posts. Not sure if you are being serious or are just trolling at this point.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post


          So please break it down.
          You clearly have no idea how facebook works. It's pretty simple, actually.

          Facebook rewards pages that drive ENGAGEMENT with increased REACH.

          As engagement increases, so does reach (the number of people who see your posts).

          When you buy fake likes, you are diluting your engagement since none of the fake likes are going to interact with your content. When that happens, Facebook is going to stop showing your content to people (or at least drastically reduce what is shown).

          As for your "social proof" argument, that falls apart when I tell you I've started DOZENS of facebook pages with ZERO likes, obviously. Running facebook like campaigns are extremely effective at building a fan base, even though the pages have ZERO fans to start with.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dano101
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            You clearly have no idea how facebook works. It's pretty simple, actually.

            Facebook rewards pages that drive ENGAGEMENT with increased REACH.

            As engagement increases, so does reach (the number of people who see your posts).

            When you buy fake likes, you are diluting your engagement since none of the fake likes are going to interact with your content. When that happens, Facebook is going to stop showing your content to people (or at least drastically reduce what is shown).

            As for your "social proof" argument, that falls apart when I tell you I've started DOZENS of facebook pages with ZERO likes, obviously. Running facebook like campaigns are extremely effective at building a fan base, even though the pages have ZERO fans to start with.
            Dude please.

            People also like your page if they see others like it. Bottom line.

            Did you like a Mcdonalds burger before Mcdonalds had the commercial of over 1 billion bull crap burgers sold?
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

              Dude please.

              People also like your page if they see others like it. Bottom line.

              Did you like a Mcdonalds burger before Mcdonalds had the commercial of over 1 billion bull crap burgers sold?
              And they will also like it when NOBODY ELSE does because I know how to target. I can take a brand new facebook page from 0 to 2000 fans inside of a week for less than $100 - and every fan is real. As a result, my engagement is through the roof, which often results in a reach of north of 50%.

              Stop with the goofy comparisons, none of them are valid comparisons because you are ignoring the relationship between engagement and reach.

              Let me ask you this...

              How are people going to "like" your page when they can't see your posts because Facebook has stopped showing them to people due to poor engagement??
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              Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

              Dude please.

              People also like your page if they see others like it. Bottom line.

              Did you like a Mcdonalds burger before Mcdonalds had the commercial of over 1 billion bull crap burgers sold?
              Hello, are you aware of Facebook's Edge Rank ?

              This is like Facebook's SEO. The system goes like this: No one comment on your post - Rank drops

              You are buying fake fans... which means facebook will see you have fans but not doing anything...not commenting on your post, not liking your post, not sharing your post...

              So Facebook determined your page sucks... and drop your posts rank
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          I think this may be at the root of your problem.

          Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

          But no one knows you.
          Personally, I've never had any problem getting likes, simply by asking. But then I DO know people to ask, and they know me.

          Of course, if ALL you have is social media (no list, no affiliates, no customers, etc.) then maybe you have no one to ask, but if you have other contacts, you should be able to enlist their aid. Make your social post and then send a link (along with a request to "like" or "share" the post) to those other contacts.


          Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

          But we also know that gaining a organic community; It's important to let prospective followers know that we have at least some minimum backing.
          Maybe my "friends" are a little more independent. They don't seem to need pre-approval from some number of anonymous "like"ers before they will register their own like. If my post is worthy, they will share it. Hell... they may even do a mailing to their own lists with a link to my social post!!

          That's what the others here have meant by "organic" following.

          I'm just saying that some people will join along with your social media cause if they see that you have at least some type of following.
          ...and just how much do you think those people are worth to you??? They will be following someone else tomorrow, if not later today. If you haven't engaged them, you'll never see them again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    You cannot raise a controversial topic and then demand that members "Listen Up Or Leave This Thread Alone." Especially when you do not know what you are talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano101
    Mcdonalds had the display in the 80s or 90s that said over 1 billion bull crap burgers sold.

    Now did the new Mcdonalds lovers after that actually look at the actual sales report before buying a burger.

    Did you actually count how many burgers that Mcdonalds sold before buying a dang burger?

    Did you?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

      Mcdonalds had the display in the 80s or 90s that said over 1 billion bull crap burgers sold.

      Now did the new Mcdonalds lovers after that actually look at the actual sales report before buying a burger.

      Did you actually count how many burgers that Mcdonalds sold before buying a dang burger?

      Did you?
      Now I'm certain you are just trolling because you keep going back to the same stupid argument with no regard for engagement and reach. This has nothing to do with the actual users - nothing at all.

      So when is the "fake likes" WSO due out? I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it. I suspect the sig link will go up within the week.

      This thread, boys and girls, is a prime example of the low quality garbage that is ruining this forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dano101
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Now I'm certain you are just trolling because you keep going back to the same stupid argument with no regard for engagement and reach. This has nothing to do with the actual users - nothing at all.

        So when is the "fake likes" WSO due out? I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it. I suspect the sig link will go up within the week.

        This thread, boys and girls, is a prime example of the low quality garbage that is ruining this forum.
        Sig Link?

        Lmao.

        I don't have a profile pic nor sig link.

        I'm just here to conversate.

        Btw. I eat at Mcdonalds enough. And I have been on the net for a while.

        Plus I remember the Mcdonalds over 1 billion sold campaign that I seen decades ago.

        But who cares if they only sold 1 million or a billion at that time?

        Especially since Mcdonalds is still Mcdonalds.

        So my entire point is that a couple of fake likes that you buy; Will not destroy your image when it comes to people that likes your interaction.

        Even if you had to fool them on how many people that you actually interact with on a daily basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Dano101.

    I clearly understand what you mean. Because, I did it, but for youtube. 2-3 years ago, I bought fake views and likes to my YT video. Just 2-3 times... and yes... it worked. My video now has gathered 50K+, which is only 1-2K are fake. The rest are real and organic. It's still growing, though getting slower.

    I know I took a risk, but luckily I made it and got some nice profit with the affiliate-link I put in there.

    However... this is just my personal experience. And I don't recommend anything here.
    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by superowid View Post

      Dano101.

      I clearly understand what you mean. Because, I did it, but for youtube. 2-3 years ago, I bought fake views and likes to my YT video. Just 2-3 times... and yes... it worked. My video now has gathered 50K+, which is only 1-2K are fake. The rest are real and organic. It's still growing, though getting slower.

      I know I took a risk, but luckily I made it and got some nice profit with the affiliate-link I put in there.

      However... this is just my personal experience. And I don't recommend anything here.
      Thanks.
      Agree.

      I'm in the adult business for males. And sometimes the fake Twitter Followers or whomever will consist of profiles of naked chicks that had a real actual following of the males needed while being a spam account.

      So as we speak.

      I may understand a service may offer me 2000 fake bot female followers.

      But I would only hope that 10% of those 2000 naked followers actually had 200 real followers themselves.

      This way. Depending on your niche.

      It is possible that the fake account that had some real followers; Will actually come your way.
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      • Profile picture of the author superowid
        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        Agree.

        I'm in the adult business for males. And sometimes the fake Twitter Followers or whomever will consist of profiles of naked chicks that had a real actual following of the males needed while being a spam account.

        So as we speak.

        I may understand a service may offer me 2000 fake bot female followers.

        But I would only hope that 10% of those 2000 naked followers actually had 200 real followers themselves.

        This way. Depending on your niche.

        It is possible that the fake account that had some real followers; Will actually come your way.
        I was thinking of the same hope when I decided to buy viewers & likes. And I'm happy it worked. But certainly there's a risk. I would say it's like gambling my YT account for a profit.

        Also... for today, I feel that it's going harder and risky to do it again against those YT updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    There you go again - talking about "image" and "what people think". You say you want to converse, yet you ignore any points made that invalidate your position.

    You havent once addressed the engagement vs reach relationship and why that is the most (only) relevant part of this discussion.

    You've displayed zero understanding of how things work and zero interest in understanding how things work. As such, it would appear you have your mind made up - so really no need for me to further engage. People who come across this thread in the future will read through it and understand.

    Carry on with your expert advice...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I'm just here to conversate.
    Now I'm certain you are just trolling because you keep going back to the same stupid argument

    I'll reserve my vote...
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  • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
    Buying fake facebook likes is a good way to get your account scrutinized by Facebook security. Does anybody honestly think they can't detect that BS? Facebook will remove fake likes from your page.

    As for Twitter, same deal. But Twitter will take it a step further and delete your account.

    Whether or not buying followers and likes is a good way to jumpstart your business is immaterial. It's against their TOS, it's unethical and it will tarnish your reputation before you can even begin building a positive one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano101
    In all honesty. I truly feel that most of the bashing replyers simply went off the Thread name or their friends reply.

    Because only 2 people kept this conversation real.

    While everyone else was bashing things before reading wtf what was actually said.

    So in all honesty. I truly believe that some of you are TMZ posters that reply before ever watching and uunderstanding the actual video.

    So this proves my point     /B]

    Most people barely check the accuracy of every single Twitter or Facebook followers. And that includes some of these posts as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano101
    Attention all. Before besmirching this thread. Please make sure that you quote ALL OF THE ORIGINAL POST OF THIS THREAD.

    BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY SHOWing tHAT MOST OF THE REPLYERS HAS NEVER EVEN READ THE ORIGINAL POST. JMO
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    How successful have you been online again?

    Oldheads.... Hahaha

    Don't you have homework to get done?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      How successful have you been online again?

      Oldheads.... Hahaha

      Don't you have homework to get done?
      In all honesty. I'm not successful. Especially since I have to go to work everyday while still trying to make my partners business work for a shared split.

      But now I see that you are baiting.


      Are you waiting for me to do some spammy 101 moment

      Just asking.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattStrange
    I bought 2000 fans once, but this was purely for the clan i was in on an online game, The players didnt know about this and it gave our clan a better rep. Funny when a few hundred started dropping off daily...

    I can see why people would pay for likes in the beginning, personally i would start from scratch.. if you know your market and you know where they hang out i don't see no harm in requesting a like here and there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Dano

    I think you need to change some of the attitude on the replys , this type of thread would be far better if you had put it in the main Social media sub forum and not the main board1

    As this is a marketing site you can not tell a person who is a member to stay away just because they may not like what you write, one small thing to ad loose the CAPS makes you look like a spoil t kid not getting there way.

    Jason
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Dano

      I think you need to change some of the attitude on the replys , this type of thread would be far better if you had put it in the main Social media sub forum and not the main board1

      As this is a marketing site you can not tell a person who is a member to stay away just because they may not like what you write, one small thing to ad loose the CAPS makes you look like a spoil t kid not getting there way.

      Jason
      RW.

      You may be right.

      I'm just bewildered as most posters will reply to my threads for the sake of disagreei
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano101
      Originally Posted by Regional Warrior View Post

      Dano

      I think you need to change some of the attitude on the replys , this type of thread would be far better if you had put it in the main Social media sub forum and not the main board1

      As this is a marketing site you can not tell a person who is a member to stay away just because they may not like what you write, one small thing to ad loose the CAPS makes you look like a spoil t kid not getting there way.

      Jason
      RW.

      You may be right.

      I'm just bewildered as most posters will reply to my threads for the sake of disagreeing.

      But most of them are waiting for me to spam some bs or they simply read the thread title with out paying attention to the original post.

      So I'm still waiting for the naysayers to quote and reply to my original post and tell me where I am wrong.

      But I'm sure that the naysayers will either go by the thread title. Or they will take 1 particularly snippet of the op to make it fit their agenda.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Dano,

        Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

        I'm just bewildered as most posters will reply to my threads for the sake of disagreeing.

        But most of them are waiting for me to spam some bs or they simply read the thread title with out paying attention to the original post.
        This is an assumption on your part, and this particular assumption (IMHO) is as flawed as your earlier assumption that bots were being used to reply to you.


        So I'm still waiting for the naysayers to quote and reply to my original post and tell me where I am wrong.

        But I'm sure that the naysayers will either go by the thread title. Or they will take 1 particularly snippet of the op to make it fit their agenda.

        Your original quote has been replied to - repeatedly - but you refuse to listen. It has been pointed out repeatedly that fake likes will reduce the engagement ratios, causing the reach of your future posts to be reduced.

        You have failed to respond to their rebuttals. If they are wrong, tell us how their logic is flawed.

        Conversation is a two-way street. The responders didn't agree with your analysis, and told you why. If you don't agree with theirs, tell them why. If you didn't understand their replies (i.e. do you understand engagement ratios? do you understand that your posts are NOT automatically shared with all of your friends? and that the social media determine the reach of your posts based on your levels of engagement?)... ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    The OP is stating that a few fake likes increase the chances that real likes follow. The OP does not state on what this is based. An A/B test would help. But, it seems it is just the OP's gut feeling, correlation not causation.

    A bunch of people disagree, stating that fake likes gets facebook to show the post with likes to fewer real people. They base it on their understanding of facebook's algos. No A/B testing.

    OP restates original position, without taking into account the reasoning behind the disagreement.

    The naysayers restate their position.

    The OP accuses naysaysers of being dense.

    Naysayers accuse the OP of repeating original statement without taking into account new input.

    Thing is, facebook has bright minds tweaking algos to make sure what the OP is suggesting doesn't work. Well, I assume it does. Because if I were Zuckey, I would hire a bunch of bright minds to make sure I make money and people like the OP won't mess us with my money train.

    This is my long way of saying that the OP's position if flawed on 2 levels:

    1. it's based on gut feelings (and nobody knows how good the OP's gut is, not even the OP)

    2. it ignores Facebook's reason for existing, its desire to protect its money making ability.

    3. Why can't we all just get along?

    PS Can we agree on at least 1 thing, the definition of conversation? (Conversation definition, informal interchange of thoughts, information).
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  • Profile picture of the author blogza68
    Automated overnight like will definitely not have engagement and your likes and followers decreases one by one as well in sometime. Just a waste of money buying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinturaj
    How it works?
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Really? Your noggin can't do more?

      Originally Posted by Pinturaj View Post

      How it works?
      Originally Posted by group786cool View Post

      its useful from 100/05
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        Really? Your noggin can't do more?
        It's the new and improved forum...
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    its useful from 100/05
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    See "Social Proof" concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_proof
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Evans
    Let me a wild, crazy guess here... Would the OP, by any chance, sell fake Twitter followers?

    I don't know, it's just a hunch.
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  • Profile picture of the author janere
    It can kill your business
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  • Profile picture of the author Ralph83
    I call this the "full restaurant effect"...

    ... Here's why: a full restaurant tends to draw in even more customers. As people walking by see lots of people sitting behind the restaurant's window, they assume the food must be great. On the other hand, an empty restaurant is hard(er) to fill for the opposite reason.

    But whether some of the customers are actually the owner's friends and family, filling up empty tables in exchange for free diner, nobody knows.

    Though if the food is not that good, the owner will eventually end up with a restaurant full of friends and family. As real customers eventually care about good food and not about the amount of customers.

    I hope this metaphor is useful to someone
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Ralph83 View Post

      I call this the "full restaurant effect"...

      ... Here's why: a full restaurant tends to draw in even more customers. As people walking by see lots of people sitting behind the restaurant's window, they assume the food must be great. On the other hand, an empty restaurant is hard(er) to fill for the opposite reason.

      But whether some of the customers are actually the owner's friends and family, filling up empty tables in exchange for free diner, nobody knows.

      Though if the food is not that good, the owner will eventually end up with a restaurant full of friends and family. As real customers eventually care about good food and not about the amount of customers.

      I hope this metaphor is useful to someone
      It's not useful at all because it doesn't apply.

      Here is a better metaphor....

      Roadside Restaurant gives away its food to fill the seats so it looks packed but township builds a wall in front of it so people driving down the road can't even see it.

      What does it matter that the place looks full when nobody can even find it?

      Anyone still talking about "social proof" at this point, even after having reach and engagement explained several times, is either simply parroting the "social proof" buzzwords they heard someone else use OR they simply have never even use social media to grow a fan base OR just haven't read the entire thread.

      Please stop with the social proof arguments. They don't apply.

      And will someone PLEASE refute my argument of engagement Vs reach? None of these guys talking about social proof wants anything to do with the argument and just keep glossing over it.

      Oh, and when I can "jump start" a brand new facebook page with zero fans into a page with 2000 fans inside of a week just by running a like campaign, what does that say about having to have fake likes to "jump start" things???
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by Ralph83 View Post

        As people walking by see lots of people sitting behind the restaurant's window, they assume the food must be great.
        I'd imagine that it helps if the people are alive.

        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        None of these guys talking about social proof wants anything to do with the argument and just keep glossing over it.
        Oh, thinking so hard, brain hurts. Easier to post on Warrior Forum. Thank you for your advances!
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      But people passing by can see the restaurant? What if, when you have a full restaurant, they take the restaurant and hide it somewhere where nobody can see it? Because that's what Facebook does when fake reviews are involved and they know it.

      (Just noticed Wolf replied in a similar manner, but I'm going to keep my post because some people on this thread need things said more than 1 was.)

      Originally Posted by Ralph83 View Post

      I call this the "full restaurant effect"...

      ... Here's why: a full restaurant tends to draw in even more customers. As people walking by see lots of people sitting behind the restaurant's window, they assume the food must be great. On the other hand, an empty restaurant is hard(er) to fill for the opposite reason.

      But whether some of the customers are actually the owner's friends and family, filling up empty tables in exchange for free diner, nobody knows.

      Though if the food is not that good, the owner will eventually end up with a restaurant full of friends and family. As real customers eventually care about good food and not about the amount of customers.

      I hope this metaphor is useful to someone
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  • Profile picture of the author Anubhav712
    It's a crap, why buy links of any minimum number. If you need help for followers , then ask some of your friends to follow you on whatever platform you are using. That should also jumpstart your business. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Ralph83
      Originally Posted by Anubhav712 View Post

      That should also jumpstart your business.
      This sums things up just perfect! As a jumpstart it might work. But on the long run, you're gonna have to come up with great content... the usual story
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano101
    Some of you are talking about ghosting posts that certain entities will do if they feel you are a spammer.

    Here's my thing. My product is for men that will never like us or join us on Social media. Because they don't want to be identified as someone who uses our men's service/product.

    Which is very understandable since we truly believe in keeping things discreet for our customers.

    So in order for us to gain some type of sm following so we can periodically bring in more people.

    We have to think outside of the box.

    Now we have plenty of men that love the product. But they will never vouch for this on their social media accounts.

    So help. How to get more followers when your happy customers are in a position where they can't follow you for discreet purposes?

    Thanks in advance.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

      Some of you are talking about ghosting posts
      I'm not referring to "ghosted posts" a'la Craigslist. I'm talking about Facebook never showing your content to anyone because nobody interacts with it (made this point several times actually).

      So help. How to get more followers when your happy customers are in a position where they can't follow you for discreet purposes?
      Don't use social media - it's a bad fit. Use PPC like AdWords - or advertise on adult sites like PornHub or YouPorn.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dano101
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        I'm not referring to "ghosted posts" a'la Craigslist. I'm talking about Facebook never showing your content to anyone because nobody interacts with it (made this point several times actually).



        Don't use social media - it's a bad fit. Use PPC like AdWords - or advertise on adult sites like PornHub or YouPorn.
        I agree about running on adult platforms for sales purposes.

        But in all honesty. I'm talking about branding purposes on social media.

        I want the name out there for the long jevity without having to pay for advertising all of the time.

        But once again. It's hard for us to get followers since our customers like to remain 1000% discreet.

        Which is what we cater to first and foremost.

        But we still want to have a following as well. So please help.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          You do something controversial, write an article/create a video that gets the people who would never be your clients to attack it and the rest of the world, to say, hey, take a chill pill.

          The happy clients can throw in their support without identifying themselves as happy clients.

          If you were a brothel, you'd make a huge donation to Senator Cruz, then release a press-release that informed the world about it, except you'd make it sound like Cruz supports brothels too, and you, of course, are all thankful that he exists for, when he is president, his family values will make it so that your business will boom like never before.

          Send him a copy. His campaign manager would respond, you respond, the world responds.

          Originally Posted by Dano101 View Post

          I agree about running on adult platforms for sales purposes.

          But in all honesty. I'm talking about branding purposes on social media.

          I want the name out there for the long jevity without having to pay for advertising all of the time.

          But once again. It's hard for us to get followers since our customers like to remain 1000% discreet.

          Which is what we cater to first and foremost.

          But we still want to have a following as well. So please help.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dano101
            Originally Posted by DABK View Post

            You do something controversial, write an article/create a video that gets the people who would never be your clients to attack it and the rest of the world, to say, hey, take a chill pill.

            The happy clients can throw in their support without identifying themselves as happy clients.

            If you were a brothel, you'd make a huge donation to Senator Cruz, then release a press-release that informed the world about it, except you'd make it sound like Cruz supports brothels too, and you, of course, are all thankful that he exists for, when he is president, his family values will make it so that your business will boom like never before.

            Send him a copy. His campaign manager would respond, you respond, the world responds.
            Lmao. Agree. Senator Cruz is also our client as well. Lol. Just kidding.

            Thanks for the political laugh. Lol

            Our customers know that they will never ever be outed.

            So even though BarackObama is one of our male customers. We will never out him.

            Lmao. I'm just joking again.

            But maybe we should contact Kim Kardashian and see if she wants to give us a Twitter shout out. Lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Don't use social media - it's a bad fit. Use PPC like AdWords - or advertise on adult sites like PornHub or YouPorn.
        You keep saying you want a social presence, while admitting at the same time that your customers are not social (i.e. they value discretion, even anonymity).

        It seems to me that any attempt you make to increase your "social" presence would be a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author 3000
    I like it. While it doesn't cause any of your content to go "viral" it does create social proof. Real visitors will see that "proof" and trust your content more. It's just like on Amazon... Take two of the same product "A" and "B": Product A doesn't have any reviews and Product B has a few. They both have the same price and everything. Which one would you buy?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano101
    In all honesty. Celebrities may use our products. But we will never know or care to know.

    We just want to have a good social media following without compromising anyone.

    But once again. Our customers will never vouch for us for discreet purposes.

    Which we understand and totally abide by.

    So what should we do next to build a social media following?
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  • Profile picture of the author samuk
    I agree, there might be cases that faked twitter followers are helping. If you are struggling to get a certain numbers of followers and you buy some faked followers to show authority that other real followers are following. However, I would get rid off the faked one after a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author dodo9000
    It is good to make your new Twitter profile looks more serious, but you have to find a good follower supplier, otherwise most of those fake followers will disappear within a few days. The reason for this is that Twitter suspends fake profiles.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaevaDeuxio
    What a great clickbait title, I love it
    I agree with the fact that the number of followers influences real users to follow you/like your page. But what about the engagement ? What about the credibilitu
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  • Profile picture of the author MaevaDeuxio
    What a great clickbait title, I love it
    I agree with the fact that the number of followers influences real users to follow you/like your page. But what about the engagement ? What about the credibility ? (what about mine ? haha)
    Real users aren't that naive. If they see 1) 10,5k followers 2) 0 RT on most of your posts 3) Multiple eggs among your "followers" .....
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