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13 years ago

Jealous competitors. I had two YouTube channels banned as I was reported multiple times on each for the same BS. Welcome to the real world. Lol

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Will Leighton 13 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

Jealous competitors. I had two YouTube channels banned as I was reported multiple times on each for the same BS. Welcome to the real world. Lol

B*stards. Worst thing is Google/Youtube being themselves, they are one of the few companies who make it virtually impossible to get in contact with them or dispute anything. Useless.
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billyme

13 years ago

Personally, I've seen some pretty horrible videos up there with their own site URL. Was this your site URL or a real affiliate link? Maybe they have an issue with cloaking links? If it's not those things, don't forget that there's some major upheavals on big sites now after SOPA, PIPA and the Megaupload incidents.

P.S. Don't discount the possibility of jealous competition either.

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Will Leighton

13 years ago

Originally Posted by billyme

Personally, I've seen some pretty horrible videos up there with their own site URL. Was this your site URL or a real affiliate link? Maybe they have an issue with cloaking links? If it's not those things, don't forget that there's some major upheavals on big sites now after SOPA, PIPA and the Megaupload incidents.

P.S. Don't discount the possibility of jealous competition either.

They dont even tell you exactly where you went wrong, just direct you to an epicly long terms of service you need to trawl through to even find an inkling of just what the problem was.

It was an actual affiliate link, to the amazon page. But it wasnt anything malicious, a real voiced over review, product description in the description box and then a "Product Page: tinyurl.com/url" link in there.

Yet there are tons doing exactly that except with a goo.gl shorterned link.

Bloody frustrating.

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Martin Lee Jr

13 years ago

This just the unfortunate result of using these platforms to do business on the internet.

Youtube was never meant for us to create marketing videos, and it looks like they are going to take greater measures to get rid of us.

I hate to hear things like that, but I guess the only thing we could do is head back to the drawing board

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mrketing.me

13 years ago

It happens a lot, and not because they don't allow marketing

Try to contact them and ask that they restore your video, they might agree or respond with an explanation of what terms of service they think that you breached. sometimes its the music in the video!

Good Luck

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Will Leighton

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mrketing.me

It happens a lot, and not because they don't allow marketing

Try to contact them and ask that they restore your video, they might agree or respond with an explanation of what terms of service they think that you breached. sometimes its the music in the video!

Good Luck

Good luck with that indeed.

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richrowley

13 years ago

I'd go with a jeallous competitor reporting your video. Did you notice if it was taking up a nice sought after position in google? Possibly pushing a competitor off the scene?

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Will Leighton

13 years ago

Originally Posted by richrowley

I'd go with a jeallous competitor reporting your video. Did you notice if it was taking up a nice sought after position in google? Possibly pushing a competitor off the scene?

No idea, I uploaded it, drove home, checked it a few hours later and saw it had been reported and removed.

Ive tried renaming the file and the upload, and uploading with a different account, but somehow Youtube knows its the same file. Bloody annoying, I at least want to be able to embed it on my site.

Whats a good alternative? Vimeo?

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Martin Lee Jr

13 years ago

Vimeo is pretty good, and daily motion is also

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fluffythewondercat 13 years ago

Ive tried renaming the file and the upload, and uploading with a different account, but somehow Youtube knows its the same file.

I think they do some sort of checksum on videos to keep duplicate content out.

Try making it either a little longer or shorter. That's always worked for me.

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hustlinsmoke

13 years ago

I call them flaggers, there everywhere, craigslist, ebay, youtube you name it. Hell some probally don't even know how to build a website. It is sort of like a virus, some lonely idiot just want's to cause grief.

Try not to take it personally, youtube doesn't have the time to investigate and there just going to remove it.

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paul_1

13 years ago

Just let go of it, move on and make a new one! Don't let it ruin your entire week...

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Ben Armstrong 13 years ago

I had the same thing happen to me for a video on a new product on Amazon. A competitor flagged it and I lost all my videos. They weren't a large part of my traffic but enough to piss me off.

I'll look into uploading the videos to other sites.
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Will Leighton

13 years ago

Yeah, I just uploaded it to Vimeo in the end, doubt it will get flagged there...hopefully. I would move on and make a new one but I outsourced it, theres a guy on here who does awesome video reviews with voice over on any amazon product. I can't do that type or quality of video myself.

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AnneE 13 years ago

I had the same thing happen to me today. I couldn't believe it. What cracked me up was that I had just been having a discussion with someone who was saying that I needed to "loosen up". My friend feels that I adhere to too high a moral code for success because I wasn't going to pay someone to write a fake review.

And then BANG -- video removed for being SPAM, SCAM or "commercially deceptive" -- OUCH!

There is a button to appeal, which I did, but unless I hear something different in the next day, I will upload to Vimeo.
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- igorGriffiths 13 years ago
  
  just had my youtube account closed and received a lifetime ban (for that gmail account and perhaps the real backup email address) because I was linking direct to Amazon, it took about 2 months for them to reply to my question why I was banned from Youtube.
  
  My story in short: submit Animoto Amazon videos, videos flagged for bad customer experience, appeal, win, re-submit videos, barred from youtube, appeal, account closed and lifetime ban put in place.
  
  My primary gmail/youtube account, no amazon videos, some site I no longer use or can remember which I had placed adsense code on did something that rubbed Google up the wrong way; my adsense account terminated, youtube monetisation removed; primary gmail/youtube account now probably on a 'watch list'...now closed my G+ account....why bother building up a social profile that can and will be closed without notice.
  
  Will try another gmail/youtube combo and link to an amazon affiliate site but this time no will use a junk backup email address, not having them tracking me through my real email addresses.
  
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AnneE

13 years ago

I am wondering whether the Amazon affiliate link shortened is a flag now that is causing videos to be reviewed. I don't think mine was out there long enough for any competitor to be jealous.

Also Vimeo terms of service, says it is for non-commerical use, my video was basically a book trailer, promotion for a Kindle short (value 99 cents) -- I'm really swindling people big time, no?

But technically can't product promotions or reviews be deemed commercial use and therefore be flagged by Vimeo?

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camkid

13 years ago

Guys, I think the lesson here is to create original content videos that add value and leave your target market wanting more

And Vimeo will close your account as uploading marketing or promo videos is against their TOS. Simply not worth the trouble.

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Steven Saczkowski

11 years ago

This is due to a jealous competitor. Some CPA marketers have no honor. I would never do that, but you'll have a few that will actually go out and flag videos for that reason, because it's actually good and converts.

Few options:

A) Appeal removal (usually not worth the effort)

B) Create a new channel, just get a PVA account, rename the video, put video in Windows movie maker, add a cover to the beginning and maybe add something new to the end and it will likely not get noticed by YouTube, but the competitor may spot it again and flag it. Also make the thumbnail of the video different. If it gets flagged again make a new video.

C) Create an entire new video

For those who say upload to Vimeo, has the traffic there converted in any way? I couldn't possibly imagine it being a supplication to youtube traffic and compensating the leads.

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dgiles63

11 years ago

Always cloak your affiliate links. It is a good practice, just to keep them from being hijacked.

I use pretty links from my websites, or bit.ly. I will often cloak my link with pretty links, then use bit.ly to shorten it and give it one more layer of removal from where the link shows up.

One advantage of both of those link cloakers is that they count hits as well, so you can track which headlines or offers are actually catching people's attention and getting them to click.

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Steven Saczkowski

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dgiles63

Always cloak your affiliate links. It is a good practice, just to keep them from being hijacked.

I use pretty links from my websites, or bit.ly. I will often cloak my link with pretty links, then use bit.ly to shorten it and give it one more layer of removal from where the link shows up.

One advantage of both of those link cloakers is that they count hits as well, so you can track which headlines or offers are actually catching people's attention and getting them to click.

What do you use as your cloaker, ninja cloaker, phantom?

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Steven Saczkowski

11 years ago

A quick question to everyone, when you use Bitly, do you not think it deters conversion rates? Bitlys don't have as much integrity as an actual domain. I have had bitlys convert well but I usually like just buying a domain, and forwarding it to the offer page.

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misterkailo

11 years ago

Several of my friends got their account banned because of competition

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Fazal Mayar

11 years ago

flaggers are indeed annoying just like spammers but its ok just build a new one.

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danlew

11 years ago

These competitors are really mean to us for now. I don't think putting affiliate links in the video description is a good idea. Just try to build a landing page with the product that you want to promote, and place your affiliate link there.

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JohnnyG11k

11 years ago

hey Will

are you still into YT marketing? did you try to upload new videos there?

What I've learned after reading this thread and doing my own research is this:

1. Avoid link cloacking/direct affiliate product url

2. It's recommended you use your own domain/sub-domain or maybe a redirect?

3. Go in under the radar niches or find low/no competition products to promote

*** I wonder if YT's TOS are also similar to Vimeo where we're not allowed to upload "marketing" or "commercial" videos...

What do you guys think?

Hope it helps...

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shim333

11 years ago

I put affiliate links but cloack them so they work good most of time....

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executed

11 years ago

Lots of competitors do that in this modern world. They dont try to make better things than you but they would love to make yoru worst one. Its due to jealousy But you can explain your situation by contacting by sending mail to gmail about it they might agree or respond with an explanation of what terms of service they think that you breached.

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JoeFerguson

11 years ago

It's possible that once it was flagged, (due to competitors, etc.) That YouTube saw that you had a marketing related link in the video and pulled the figurative hair trigger on deleting it. They may not have took the time to see if your video truly was violating anything. Perhaps just try making another one if you can't seem to get an answer from them.

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