The BIG Question: Buying LIKES?!

I think people buy likes for different reasons, some people just buy them to build credibility, while others hope they amount to conversions etc... either way, It seems having likes is all people care about these days, good or bad, I personally, think its a trend people want to have and absorb but really do not know that it takes more then a facebook like to succeed.. There are so many resources to build likes, buying them will soon be obsolete, I think people will be selling "ways" on how to actually get them themselves.

Cheers,

I'm a little bit bit biased, but try doing a Facebook search on page likes, and you might get me, or I'm sure I would be somewhere in that list of results. Edgerank is based on likes, likes on posts, likes on photos, comments, perhaps back links from outside Facebook play some role in it, but no it's mostly likes. They have to look real, and my likes stick because they are from the largest social swapping site, and most of the accounts are real accounts or look real enough and are being used enough to stick.

Purchased likes are detrimental to a fan page. They hurt a fan page. There for any price is a no good price. Saying " I found someone selling likes at a fairly reasonable price" is like saying "I found someone to smash out the windshield in my car at a fairly reasonable price"

I cant believe people still contemplate this. Let me make it clear, buying likes is a BAD thing. Dont do it. Oh and anyone who is going to say otherwise, qualify yourself first, if you dont make 100% of your income online and have for the last several years, and if 75% of that doesnt come from Facebook, then you have no business arguing because those things are true for me.

Sorry to be blunt, but its about time this to buy likes or not to buy likes was put to rest. Its stupid, its detrimental to the health of a fan page and it brings NO value. The End.

Naw man its all good. Sorry if I came across as sarcastic, thats just the way I speak. Really Im just trying to help you out. Though it does get a little frustrating having to say the same stuff over and over again. But really buying likes is a super bad idea. It really does equate to burning your money or your house. It only hurts what you should be trying to accomplish.

People over think there like count, they put to much importance on it. Its not really important at all in fact its so unimportant that you can move its main display off the main page. Here let me show you something check out this page:

https://www.facebook.com/FirstSocial...60166024069205

After you check it out let me know and then Ill finish make my point.

Listen, I fully understand people saying that buying likes is wrong, but they're wrong, proof is the difference in the ranking of the pages on a Facebook and Google search. Where are you getting your traffic? Your page title suggests you don't even consider SEO as a traffic method for Facebook.

As I said the only people saying to buy likes are the people who sell likes or dont know what they are doing. Well I give up Im not going to preach to the deaf. People can do what they want and then wonder why there not doing well. Ill go on making my living and people can go on trying to figure out what there doing wrong. We can agree to disagree


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Incidentally I noticed from your post that you seemed a little uncertain about what really effects edge rank. I notices you were saying things like 'might effect' so let me give you a tip.

One of the most important things in Edge rank is 'affinity' that is, your relationship with the viewer. Buying likes from people does nothing to improve your affinity because there fake likes (even if there real people there still fake likes because they wont interact). Since they dont interact there is no affinity increase, hence no edge rank increase. Further edge rank has whats called a time decay factor, which means over time edge rank reduces on its own with reduced engagement with the user.

Lastly edge ranks most major function is to decide what posts a user sees. Most people 'like' hundreds of things and have hundreds more friends, thats a lot of posts, Facebook needs a way to decide what of those posts should show in your timeline. Edge rank is how they do it, by showing your posts that you have 'affinity' with .. ie they show your posts by people and pages you have interacted with, using the logical conclusion that if you interacted with them 50x before you probably want to do it again. It then uses 'weight' to further narrow down the list.

Really buying likes does nothing for this as Edge ranks is based on affinity more than anything and is also a one to one thing. Ie I can have a high Edge rank with person A and a medium for person B on the same post. Just the fact that you would bring up Edge rank in a discussion about buying likes shows that you have little Facebook understanding. But no worries I have a bit of FB experience If you have any questions dont hesitate to ask.

I can get likes on a post, likes on a photo, and comments if you're really going for the Edgerank algorithms. I know it's about engagement, and I know there's not much benefit from random people liking you long term. But, there is benefit short term, such as the fact that many people will not like a page that has nobody liking it. It looks incredibly unprofessional for an internet guru or rock star to have ten likes. There are dozens of reasons why people buy likes, and I'm just there to fill the need, or the want, as it is a billion dollar industry, part of which is filled by Facebook itself, through Facebook Ads, but that costs a hundred times more per like. If people take the time to listen to my advice, they will get Twitter followers instead. My tens of thousands of Twitter followers get me more traffic than my Facebook likes, by a long way, but nevertheless, buying the likes I sell is a good thing, for many different reasons, not at all a bad thing.

Since Edge ranks affinity is a per user basis what good is if 5000 people who dont care about your brand like your post, and raise your affinity with them, who cares if I raise my affinity with people who dont care what I say. LOL

Yes its a high dollar industry, supported by people who are wondering why they are failing, really the 'its a billion dollar industry so it must be a good thing' is a silly argument that just about every like seller makes because they have no real argument since buying likes really a bad idea. Thats like saying we should all start smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day .. I mean after all the tobacco industry is a billion dollar market so it must be a good thing. It must be good for you. See how faulty that logic is.

The second argument that all like sellers make is the 'no one will take you seriously if you dont have lots of likes' , again faulty logic, intended to play up on new peoples fears and insecurities.
The fact is that real research shows that peoples decision to like a page or not is not influenced to any measurable degree by the pages existing like count.

Sorry man, nothing personal against your service, but its still a bad idea, your arguments have been said before and have no merit now like they didnt when they were said 100x by other like sellers. You dont have to worry though there will always be a market for your services. People will always want to buy likes instead of learning to use Facebook the way it should be used, and they will always wonder why they are failing.

Lots of love, and no hard feelings that we disagree,
Brett

My Counterize stats still show that Facebook is my number one referrer, getting more traffic to my site than Google, Twitter, You Tube, Google Plus, Stumble Upon, Linked In, Pinterest, The Warrior Forum, Digital Point, Yahoo Answers, and so on and so forth. It's my leading referrer by a long way, and that's about a hundred thousand unique views over the past couple of years, just to one of my sites. You can say whatever you want, I know you're wrong, and I've tested my strategies on all the big social media sites, and found out how to push them to the point that you get what I view as the most amount of traffic that you can wring out of the sites. If that's not how you do it, fine, but tell me you got a million unique views from Facebook the last year, without paying for Facebook Ads, and then maybe what you say will sink in.

How many sales did you get off of those people? Really dont answer just ask your self that. I sold over 600 copys of at least on of my software last year from FB people and I didnt buy a single like.
But hey whatever works for you .. rock on.

Ill tell you what when you can give me likes from people where I can select there location and interest then Ill start buying them

Do me a favor will you. Link me to your fan page.

There is a link to my main Facebook page on my Facebook profile, which is on my avatar. It is ranking first on the first page of Google for affordable social media marketing services, outranking my site, or maybe I changed the title of my site since then, but it was outranking my site for the same phrase. That's after I made dozens upon dozens of back links to my site and wrote hundreds of blog posts and updated it every day for years. Facebook is PR 9, it's all about SEO, and you missed the boat completely, by not giving your page a keyword phrase title. You are the non-expert in this discussion.

You misunderstand, I linked from the home page of my Wordpress site to my Facebook page, and that is the one that is ranking for "affordable social media marketing services" and is on page five of "social media marketing services" last time I looked. Facebook.com slash affordablesocialmediamarketingservices I shouldn't have to tell you that it is not easy to even get to page ten of a search like social media marketing services, it's like SEO services.

Yep had a look at your page. Just what I thought from a like seller. A dead page.
Not a single like or comment from a single fan for months.
Most popular city for your page: Alexandria, Al Iskandariyah
Most popular age group 18-24
Verdict. A dead page full of likes by kids in Egypt.

Sorry man that says it all:

However: linking to your fanpage from your site isnt a 1/2 bad idea. Buying likes from kids in Egypt that dont interact with you .. still a bad idea.

Just think of this, lets say you get 100 real fans from real buyers, your having a special and you want to promote a post to them, Facebook determines the cost of the promoted post based on the number of fans you have. If you had just the 100 real fans it would cost you $5, but since you also have 3K non buyer fans your going to have to pay $15-$20 and most of the people who see it will be the non buyer purchased fans .. yuck.

That confuses the hell out me, I tried using Facebook Ads once or twice, it's not for me. I heard people talking about how they could get one cent clicks from it, and I could never work out how to do that so it was always too expensive.

As a social marketing expert, I couldn't very well have a page with 35 likes could I? And, I wasn't prepared to pay a dollar per like or more through Facebook Ads. Two different strategies, but both work, and from what I've seen, you're more likely to lose more money faster from a Facebook Ads campaign than from buying likes or trying to rank your Facebook page in a search.

You are a social marketing expert, and you don't know how to use Facebook ads?

Yeah I know how to use it, I tried using it last time to promote a page I made selling a Clickbank product with average recurring billing sales of $1000. I gave up before I made one sale.

How many clicks did you send at it?

I spent a few hundred dollars and pretty much ran out of money. I made more sales through having Amazon pages found in random searches, like Amazon gift cards. It's not much when I make a sale like a dollar a time through them, but cheap things seem to sell and people do search things on Facebook. I got my first Amazon check ever recently after three years of being an Amazon affiliate, I made sixty in one month, and that was from Facebook SEO. Not much, but it could be built upon, considering that all I did was make pages with simple keyword titles and get a few hundred likes for them. By the way, don't tell anyone about that, it's a secret.

People like to say bad things about buying Facebook likes, because they don't do it, because they think it's wrong or got told it was wrong, but that also means they don't really know anything about it, because they don't do it.

1 About half the people on Facebook aren't real people at all, or not as real as you and I are real. If people knew how many fake likes there were going on even on the profiles of countless big famous rock stars, they might have a different opinion of it.

2 The likes I get are from social swapping sites. Today, I was clicking the button to follow people with my real accounts to earn points, and I assume many other people like me are doing the same, even if you will undoubtedly get fake likes in the mix, or likes from accounts that were just made to earn points. My likes are not all fake.

3 The inactive likes do fall off, but most of them stick from my source, that's what I've seen. Don't trust most of the Fiverr gigs, (except mine), as there are problems with fake likes made by software, but that's different to social swapping sites. Fake as opposed to random.

4 It does look bad to anyone who can see that your likes are from India, but it looks even worse if you're making yourself out to be a big deal and you only have five likes.

5 Facebook knows this is happening, Google knows this is happening, but due to the fact it is real people or accounts that look so much like real people as to be indistinguishable, they can't tell the difference most of the time.

6 I have heard of rare cases where people get banned from Facebook or get their page suspended, but usually the only way to get banned from Facebook is to have multiple people report you for spam because you're going around spamming people on their profile or in comments on their pages in massive amounts. Too many people buy likes for them to throw you out for that, as they would be throwing out millions of people, including celebrities.

8 This is true, if you have tons of likes, rank on the first page of multiple searches but have nothing good on the page, no good content, no good call to action, no good site to send them to, then it all falls short, but that's nothing new.

There are arguments for and against buying likes, you just have to understand why you want the likes in the first place. I buy them for social proof and social SEO, and it works for me, I got a million hits from Facebook to articles and blog posts and my site and You Tube videos the past year or two, how about you?

Content is always more important for any long term strategy, if you want to be a flash in the pan, sure spam away. With that being said I have the following to say....I'm all for buying twitter followers. I NEVER WOULD PURCHASE ANYTHING FOR FACEBOOK. I've tested it and it is for sure a huge waste of money because the fake accounts etc. are found out and deleted regularly so those people literally almost have a 100% dropoff rate. Secondly never spend more than $5 if youre going to mess around with it and if you really care about one of your pages or accounts dont do it! You could, potentially lose it, no matter how remote the chance, there still is a chance.

I've grown organically a twitter following of 22,660 but it was a pain. However those followers actually optin and buy things because they're real. So organic and true followers of course are way better. So why am I for buying followers?

I'm all for buying followers but not likes, especially if you are not established in the niche you're going after. There is a few reasons why...

If you have a fairly new account, or are just getting started really targeting your social media, let me ask you a question. Prima Facie, if you see two landing pages, both display twitter followers, one has 5, the other 5,000, whose will you click?

Buying followers sucks for traffic or any sort of seo benefit really. What it does give you is something equally valuable. SOCIAL PROOF. Now with the 5,000 followers you jusst bought you can proudly display your twitter follower count anywhere and everywhere you see fit! I always buy followers for twitter when I start to target a new niche....SOCIAL PROOF BABY____the only people checking your followers are your competition, besides that no one else is scrutinizing who follows you....

Go for it!

I have 30,000 followers on my largest Twitter account, and I have more than one account. I love Twiends, and it works, I'm not just blowing smoke up your nose, every time I tweet, I get hits to the page, as long as I tweet something that grabs people about something with widespread appeal, like internet marketing or making money online. I basically click the button for people, which works best in combination with a seeds package. It doesn't make me much money, it's tedious and time consuming, but it is better to follow back people to keep the followers longer, and it does save you a little bit of money and time getting someone like me to manage it for you. I can even tweet for you if you got enough money.

I never spent much time on twitter as it never worked out well for me. But then again there are people who claims twitter does indeed helped their biz a lot. So how much time you spend on a daily basis on twitter & how long did it take to get those followers if i may ask?

Yeah, if we're talking about long-term strategy, lizardking8610, then I'd have to agree that content is definitely the way to go to build your social media success.

I've never gotten twelve cent clicks before, but you've never ranked a Facebook page on Google before. I didn't ruin my page, it's getting traffic to my site all the time, and my multiple Facebook pages are getting seen by lots of real people and real people like them all the time, I don't buy that many likes really, not compared to Twitter followers, and I can't afford to spend much, my approach is the budget way, it's basically free, except for a few likes. That took me years to build tens of thousands of Twitter followers on one account, but that's because I mostly got it for free by clicking the button. I've had very little money the whole time I've been learning how to do this, and that puts me at a disadvantage I guess, but the real question I think is are you making a huge profit from Facebook Ads? Are those twelve cent clicks turning into customers, and if so how much of a profit are you making? I got traffic from Facebook today, and also from these sites:

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Interesting debate

I get about two hundred unique views a day, and yeah it gets me at least one sale a day on average, and sometimes that's a big sale or a return customer who wants ongoing services. I get many emails a day from people asking about mostly Facebook likes. I sell it because that's what is selling. Not necessarily because it's the best possible way to spend your money.

I've had great success using FB advertising to build up one of my fan pages. Other pages, not so much. It was a lot of work optimizing the ads, testing every option and learning how to tweak them for maximum benefits, but I get awesome continued interaction from the people who liked my page.
The likes are only one spoke in the wheel, and you have to have all the spokes. You can't fake it. Your page has to have engaging content, and has to drive traffic to high quality pages that have VALUE so that people share them.
The short cuts - if there are any - are in seeing what has worked for others. But you do actually have to be social, and have expertise in your subject. One of the reasons people love my page is that I'm on there answering questions and chatting with people quite a lot. It's a lot of work - I have to deliver fresh, good content every day an have to continually strive to raise the bar and go beyond in terms of quality.
I spent $2000 on FB ads but now make $50-100 per day from the traffic that I am driving with my posts. Do the math - that's an investment that takes approx 1 month to pay for itself and doubles my money after two. Of course there will be some engagement drop off after time, there always is, but this is compensated by the viral effect of new organic likes which I am now getting 50-200 per day.

I would NEVER buy BS likes from Fiver or ANY other service offering cheap likes. They are mostly fake accounts. There are plenty of other ways to promote your page such as outreach to other FB page owners.