VK.com gonna kill Facebook?

by jones115 Banned
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The best social networkin service ever made is VK. It`s a very cool (PR9,Alexa 19) clone of Facebook and this is much better then Facebook. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_(social_network) What are the features and benefits of VK?

1. Power. They in FB never let you do what you easily CAN do in VK:
a) Selecting people by sex, age, geography, date of birth, political and religious views, married/single/right now searching 4 a dick etc., and
b) powerful user-friendly search [in THE LARGEST PIRATE MEDIA DATABASE in the world].

2. Usability (all in one or two clicks access; no one leading you in circles constantly trying to make money of you as greedy FB constantly does).

3. Billion tons of totally free pirate content (everything they ever stole of music and video; 2nd biggest audio hosting of the planet, 4rth biggest video hosting - if it is in english and published these two centuries you`ll certainly find it in 460 or 740HD). These guys steal everything we pay for and watch it totally free. This place is a goddamn pirate`s paradize!

4. Biggest social net in Europe (2nd after FB) BTW.

Main problem: mostly all around you are russian speaking. But if you just seeing movies in english, listening music and looking for girlfriend it is not a problem at all.)

First of all I advised to use VK as best ever made entertainment platform, not as promotional one. Russian traffic is not always solvent. But VK is the nicest place to find all that Hollywood or modern/old bands have ever produced. If you look for books, video or songs in english you`ll certainly find it there.

How to monetize this treasure?
For example you can (using simple Chrome plugin for VK) download million tons of free pron movies and start your own topical site. If you want to monetize VK just think a bit more creative.

Some words about fake accounts and bots.
VK protection is less stupid than Twitter`s one. There are not so much bots and fakes that FB has at the moment (you simply cannot register and do something useful without giving them your phone number). Also they massively kill bots from time to time using their own algorithms. So if you are looking for russian of european traffic it has sense to register some VK accounts. Start studying this social net more attentively, pals.

P.S. A lot of ideas was stolen by Google+ and FB from this very project. Russians coming, imho.
#facebook #kill #vkcom
  • Profile picture of the author beltoprent
    I agree about vk...I like this social network very much. I hate facebook..I think that the only one thing is good about facebook - the name! LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author Max Greenflame
      Originally Posted by beltoprent View Post

      I agree about vk...I like this social network very much. I hate facebook..I think that the only one thing is good about facebook - the name! LOL
      Yes, bro, absolutely agree. Odnoklassniki rocks as well
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      • Profile picture of the author jones115
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        Originally Posted by Max Greenflame View Post

        Yes, bro, absolutely agree. Odnoklassniki rocks as well
        `Odnoklassniki` sucks, bro. Ask any russians for their opinion) That`s a very bad copy of a dead Classmates project.
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        • Profile picture of the author Max Greenflame
          Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

          `Odnoklassniki` sucks, bro. Ask any russians for their opinion) That`s a very bad copy of a dead Classmates project.
          I know many people don't like it, but as to me I'm OK with Odnoklassniki, not for marketing purposes, just for communication, yeah Classmates is better but I just don't know anyone there.
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    • Profile picture of the author seo-it-right
      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      The chances of VK killing Facebook on a global scale are just about 0%.
      lol yep
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      • Profile picture of the author Max Greenflame
        It's not gonna kill Facebook but as to VK review you're right. I live in Ukraine, all people here use VK, I don't know a single person who has a Facebook account. VK is the Facebook for most post Soviet countries. It's great enough to replace any paid dating site, you can easily find people from any city or small village, you can tap into unlimited communities of any kind. Folks promote their Russian sites like crazy driving tons of traffic from there for free unlike with Facebook. VK unites post Soviet people from the whole world who speak multiple languages so you might want this traffic too. You need right niches to convert it awesomely.
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      The chances of VK killing Facebook on a global scale are just about 0%.
      In global scales difference between fb and vk right now is 5:1. And vk at the moment is just a LOCAL social networking project filled with russian speakers (some world selebrities are just starting to open it, so hope the vk`s popularity in US will grow). I bet that its functionality will kill that of fb in a decade or less. The difference in usability and power is too strong to let any chanse for fb. The only reason why this actually may fail - current political situation in Russia.
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    • Profile picture of the author rizy
      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      The chances of VK killing Facebook on a global scale are just about 0%.
      They don't have to kill Facebook on a global scale, they can happily do it at a local stage of Europe only. And in future you will see a lot of these start to pop up, because this always happens in history of the net, we go from small groups to larger groups and then back to small groups. I mean look at Path.com nothing but mapping, which every social network offers. In the appstore you see networks for bodybuilding, for people meeting, for corporate stuff, because more people are connected there is even more of a reason to bring social networks. I think Forums of the web will become the Network Applications of the Mobile Industry.
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      • Profile picture of the author overtonis
        I believe the Russian government attempted to shut that site down due to child porn in may (most likely it was Putin attempt to shut it down because his opponents were using it to build popularity). Doesn't sound like a stable media platform but it probably couldn't hurt to set up account but I wouldn't spend a ton of time there as it looks like the government is itching to shut it down.
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        • Profile picture of the author IvoryPulse
          Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

          ...
          3. Million tons of totally free pirate content (everything they ever stole of music and video; 3rd biggest audio hosting of the planet, 4th biggest video hosting - if it is in english and published these two centuries you`ll certainly find it in 460 or 740HD). These guys steal everything we pay for and watch it totally free. This place is a goddamn pirate`s paradize!...
          Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

          ...
          b) It is a largest base of pirate media content in the world.
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          Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

          ...
          a) (having no problems with law) people can amaze themselves with free (pirate) online media content,
          ...
          Sorry but I really can't see anything good in this. I would never invest my time and money into unstable and risky place and place with plenty of illegal content where owners are bragging about it instead of dealing with it is just that - unstable.

          And no - VK will not kill Facebook.
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        • Profile picture of the author jones115
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          Originally Posted by overtonis View Post

          I believe the Russian government attempted to shut that site down due to child porn in may (most likely it was Putin attempt to shut it down because his opponents were using it to build popularity). Doesn't sound like a stable media platform but it probably couldn't hurt to set up account but I wouldn't spend a ton of time there as it looks like the government is itching to shut it down.

          Yep. One of points making it popular in Russia and in Europe is that Putin and his folks have no control over it. Lots of people can freely critisize the regime in VK because VK rejected Putin`s attepmpts to close biggest opposition groups and public pages in VK.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andra el
    Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

    1. Power. They in FB never let you do what you easily CAN do in VK:
    a) filtering people by sex, age, geography, date of birth, political and religious views, married/single/right now searching 4 a dick etc., and
    b) user friendly searching in GIGANTIC PIRATE CONTENT BASE - free books, video and music.
    4. Biggest social net in Europe BTW.
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    I never heard about vk.com before? is it russian based socialmedia?
    what's the language? I'll try it soon
    Thank Jones
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  • Profile picture of the author mikelmraz
    Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

    VK.com gonna kill Facebook?
    Yes, that's right.
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    Sorry not at chance at all
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  • Profile picture of the author mcgrathcullin
    VK literally just looks like a 'copy-cat' of FaceBook. They will most definitely not succeed on a global scale unless they find something innovative to do instead of piggybacking off of someone else's success.
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      Originally Posted by Warranty View Post

      VK it's a full copy of facebook. By the way facebook is way more secure and less spammy.
      VK will always have their audience in russian speaking countries.
      This is an old myth. Exceptin visual design (they stole it from Fb 2007 and they do not hide this funny fact) there`s not so much points of similarity between these projects. Morover hashtags and public pages was first used in VK and just some moths (pages) and a couple of years (hashtags) was stolen by G+ and Fb. They steal - that`s true - but some current features are stolen from them by G+ and FB, actually.

      Originally Posted by mcgrathcullin View Post

      VK literally just looks like a 'copy-cat' of FaceBook. They will most definitely not succeed on a global scale unless they find something innovative to do instead of piggybacking off of someone else's success.
      VK has some strong points.
      a) It is MUCH MORE user-friendly than last editions of fb are.
      b) It is a largest base of pirate media content in the world.
      d) There`re much more ways to customize content`s design of public pages or groups then fb and G+ could offer. F.e. they never allow you adding a musical track, a document, an album of pictures, a text, a link and a poll to ONE PUBLICATION in your group or public page. VK does. Easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warranty
    VK it's a full copy of facebook. By the way facebook is way more secure and less spammy.
    VK will always have their audience in russian speaking countries.
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  • Profile picture of the author ReferralCandy
    It's false to assume that VK will kill Facebook simply because it's "better". Linux is "better" in many ways than Windows, yet so many people still use the latter.

    People will continue to use Facebook because it's heavily integrated into their lives; all their friends are already using it. The cost of leaving Facebook is too high for people to even consider shifting. You'll need all the power users to migrate, and that's unlikely.

    If Facebook gets unseated from its throne, it will come from a completely different animal that none of us are likely to be even capable of imagining yet. Perhaps something to do with Google Glass 4.0 or some future interface. Otherwise I imagine Google+ is more likely to challenge Facebook (asymmetrical warfare: Authorship, Maps, Reviews) than VK.

    The difference in scale is of a magnitude that's hard to imagine. Here's a good, relevant read:

    Technology Trends: What will be the next big thing after Facebook and Twitter? - Quora
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      Originally Posted by ReferralCandy View Post

      Linux is "better" in many ways than Windows, yet so many people still use the latter. [/url]
      Linux is "worse" in some crucial points:
      a) number and popularity of its applications
      b) usability (to install it you should be clever enough).

      VK is better then Fb and G+ in some CRUCIAL things:
      a) (having no problems with law) people can amaze themselves with free (pirate) online media content,
      b) it is more friendly,
      c) it is more powerful,
      d) it is not greedy at all.
      I believe it`s just a matter of time that US users gonna massively discover VK.

      I agree that it`s hard to predict what solution will be winning or failing in a big time scales. But my prognosis is that VK gonna turn into world scale player just in a year or two. Maybe it`ll kill FB (together with G+) in ten years, mabe not, but if I were you I would attentively watch after this project.
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      • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
        Originally Posted by jones115 View Post

        b) it is more friendly,
        c) it is more powerful,
        Things like this are just opinions. Not "crucial" to anything.
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        • Profile picture of the author windrider07
          Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

          Things like this are just opinions. Not "crucial" to anything.
          Well actually, I wouldn't call them opinions. I would rather consider them to be labels. Websites that are friendly and powerful ARE far more successful than those that are not friendly or powerful so they are definitely factors in SEO, marketing, and user experience. The site might be friendly and powerful but it definitely isn't gonna beat facebook (if you are referring to the VK site).

          EDIT: By the way, Facebook IS already powerful and friendly. I sense some people (not the guy above this post) are being biased. Facebook is a legal social network that's used by more than half the planet. Even if some people don't like it, they STILL use it. You don't have to like something to use it everyday.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    "sign in with facebook" button says it all. :|
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  • Profile picture of the author Hrkjds
    VK.com gonna kill Facebook? Lol..Then why they are allowing sign in with Facebook?
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  • Profile picture of the author natebunger
    There's no chance of it. VK is too local and Facebook is worldwide. It is known more by the people and they feel more comfortable with it because it's what we've been using for many years now.
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  • Profile picture of the author LinkQuidator
    It will never happen, unless you're in Russia. It's a facebook clone, less improved. The only thing you'll find on Vkontakte.com is pirated content that is being deleted on daily basis by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Rawat
    Well I am a user on vk but i don't think it will kill facebook as it is a Russian site, and most of the users are non-English, when you chat with any person they even can't talk in english.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraggleJ78
    I just don't see how anything right now will kill Facebook... FB has over 1 billion users at the moment. This is simply where your customers/prospects/the traffic is.

    I'm all for new social media platforms that are easy to advertise on and grow a following, but I just can't see how anything at this moment will rise up to just take them down.

    Heck FB is the first company in a long time that is giving Google a run for it's money on the net.
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      Originally Posted by FraggleJ78 View Post

      FB has over 1 billion users at the moment. This is simply where your customers/prospects/the traffic is
      VK has about 0.2 billion people. It`s just 5 times less then FB. And they (VK) never promote themselves in US or Japan or anywere else (just beyond former Soviet Union). They never promote VK in Europe yet but it is a largest european social network after FB today. Do you have any idea why?
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  • Profile picture of the author tanyaa
    I think that will need more time to take the place with fb.It should create controversy to get more traffic.
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  • Wow I only knew this site with you here and I checked it has a PR9 and it's already in Rank 19 from alexa its quite the same as Facebook even their colors and structures and yes you can use Facebook account to sign in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ripster
    I never heard of VK but thanks for sharing! This gives me a new source of Social Media Marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    I predict an open source version will knock off FB. FB is imposing more on users daily with monetization pressure from wall street and also people will get fed up w/ NSA data gathering.
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  • Profile picture of the author iLyn
    Vk.com? First time I heard about it. And although facebook had been in a lot of changes lately, i dont think VK will outrank it. Plus, a clone will always be a clone. Imitate someone or something and you'll always end up at the second spot, 2nd rate copy cat.

    I have fallen out of love of FB lately but I still can say its the best out there
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    Never heard of VK.com

    Anyone heard of YuuZoo.com? They seem to be doing what Facebook can't or won't - let you own your visitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      Never heard of VK.com

      Anyone heard of YuuZoo.com? They seem to be doing what Facebook can't or won't - let you own your visitors.
      Does this YuuZoo.com have PR9 and Alexa 19? VK has.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clark85
    They say, they're the largest European network - that may be right, but only because it's so big in Russia. I'm very sure that FB is still pretty much ahead of VK in the Western countries like France, Germany, Italy, Scandinavia and so on. Another thing why VK won't establish itself is that it looks way too similar to FB. It needs more distinguishing features.
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  • Profile picture of the author pekvitja
    i think "yes" vk.com its more easy and comfortable than facebook
    i love it more
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  • Profile picture of the author SLind47
    I am in Empower Network and Facebook banned Empower Network from posting any EN links anywhere on its site...It was the Facebook slap.. Well, it was a way to keep people from spamming... I mean who joined FB to be spammed? So the haters love it because it proves EN is a scam... however since the FB slap EN has doubled in size.... Does anyone know if Empower Network is banned on VK?
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  • Profile picture of the author windrider07
    To say that VK will "kill" facebook is really biased and overexaggerated. Facebook is to social networking as Google is to search engines. No matter what you think or do, it's the majority of the people that matters. Yes, there are few countries in the world that either hate facebook or have no idea what facebook is, but the point is, most countries know facebook and have incorporated facebook into their lives.

    Want to brag about pirated software? Piratebay is the king. Don't start bragging about a service if the service isn't even executed right. Merging social networking with video hosting and pirating? That's a complete mess. Well, no...scratch that...it's not BUT it is executed horribly. Social networking is social networking....don't mess with or abuse it unless you know what you're doing. Same with pirate and video hosting. Want to host a video: youtube is king.

    Want to complain about facebook being greedy? lol that's your own opinion. Facebook is one of the cheapest networks to advertise on IF you do it right. Don't complain if you invest loads of money into facebook ads and get no results...the problem might be you and your ad, not facebook. No idea how people can complain about facebook being greedy.

    Sure, VK is probably a good option to consider but considering it's not marketed in other languages, that's a HUGE disadvantage. Many people love pirated software but don't abuse pirated software and free stuff and think you can launch a facebook-like service and have this idea that you'll beat facebook. Most importantly, if you want to beat facebook, create your own design that isn't copied off facebook lol. People are going to laugh at you if they see facebook's color scheme and layout (whether old or new) on the site. Create something original, something innovative, and something that people will actually use on a long-term basis.

    EDIT: By the way, EVERYONE wants to make money. If you are gonna complain that people use certain websites or networks to earn money, dude, you got problems. People will advertise their products anywhere that has good traffic. If you hate the stuff that is being advertised on facebook, ignore it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yaros
    btw, the attempt to conquer Russian market by Facebook was a complete disaster. The best is the enemy of the good, so people decided not to change the platform they feel quite comfortable with.

    I am using both social networks and must admit that VK is much better now than Facebook. And the reason is not in the pirate content (it has an amazing collection of EVERYTHING and piratebay sucks in comparison with VK) but in usability and different details.

    If a user starts using FB after one-two weeks his news feed turns into a real garbage can. Absolutely unfamiliar profiles and different applications constantly fill the page with all this rubbish. As any normal user I want to get in touch only with people I want to communicate with. I don't need colleagues, classmates, other people who wrote to my email 5 yeras ago. Facebook, as the most 'smart' social network sucks in all these (even hypothetical) social connections and offers them all the time. annoying. And I can mention other unpleasant things of FB which VK does not have.

    Personally I don't see any great opportunities for FB in future. I think the company is overestimated. Other networks have already stopped copying new innovations and featurtes which appear on Facebook, because they do not worth it. Google Plus will be forcing out Facebook day by day. Google Plus who is copying VK now
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  • Profile picture of the author kdevarney
    I don,t know that vk will run over facebook but someone will sooner or later. Facebook is ok but trying to make new friends and network with people gets harder all the time. getting urls blovked and your account shut down does not take much at all anymore. Linkedin is growing on me now
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  • Profile picture of the author sotiris1
    I am sure ENV2 will give Facebook a run for their money when it launches in a few weeks give it a year or two :-) . I registered an account on VK thanks for the heads up :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I'm going to join VK.com!!

    SAID NO AMERICAN EVER!
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  • Profile picture of the author imeasysales
    I've been on some of the pages on VK and it looks like a poorly designed MySpace/Facebook. It offers nothing unique or innovative at all. I can't see it taking over Facebook at all. If anything I think it will collapse.
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    • Profile picture of the author surbjits
      VK is enclosed to the Russian speaking sphere. Facebook is global; thus the answer is no.
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  • Profile picture of the author morninghansel
    First time I have heard of this VK. Maybe its worth a try once I find a good niche for this one. Thanks for this info about it.
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    Facebook is just UNIQUE, nobody can compete with facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author pinkgorilla
    VK will never be on the same level with Facebook. Everything VK can do, Facebook can do better. I never really hear anything about VK to be honest, and there really doesn't seem to be a lot of users using it. It's much better to stick to marketing with Facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author jones115
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      > Everything VK can do, Facebook can do better.

      1. Try to search people by age or date of birth or their marriage status or online presence in FB.
      2. Try to post music, video, picture, text, poll and a link at ONE publication in FB.
      3. Compare page statistics in FB and VK.
      4. BTW public pages are first used in VK. Also VK used hashtags in 2010. G+ and FB started to use them just now.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexGeorge
    I've heard of this site mentioned a couple of times before, but saying it will kill Facebook is ridiculous. VK has no where near the user base that Facebook does and doesn't have as much features either. It's member base it's largely compromised of European members, so it doesn't appeal as much to people in other parts of the world unlike Facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeFerguson
    No chance. It's going to take something drastically different and unique to peel people away from Facebook. They have already invested so much time into the social media site that it feels like second nature to them.

    Perhaps one day, something will come a long that will deliver a blow to FB like it did to Myspace. I don't see it happening in the near future however.
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  • Profile picture of the author seonewbie9
    I bet Google will kill Fb in a couple of years. Not VK. But VK is a good place to get much (almost free) traffic from Russia if you`re interested in it. Also it is really MUCH MORE user-friendly today than FB. No bullshit. I think it`s going to be global in a couple of years, but I beleive G+ will kill FB faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zakhar
    VK is decent, beginning to hate FB they're so money hungry. Right now I'm liking Directly.me the most though a social network that actually brings you some income at the same time, pretty new for those that haven't heard about it they were covered on thenextweb > Would you hand over cash to contact a specific person?
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  • Profile picture of the author Beatinest
    You do know downloading porn and uploading it to your own site for other people to view is a crime, right?

    Porn companies are going after people who are doing this and financially ruining them.
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