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So, not quite a year ago I found someone on here selling some information and decided to give it a try. I will state that it was worth it because their information provided how to get things set up, how to pull people in, and how to make your FB fan page a success as far as REAL followers, not bought ones.

I followed those steps and I created a FB fan page that has a unique niche. I did not have a whole lot of money, still don't, so I was only able to invest a very small amount in marketing. Nonetheless, because this awesome person described HOW to find the right people using a FB fan page, that little bit of investment did bring people in...by. the. bucketloads.

I then created a blog to go along with the FB fan page. As time went on, the fan page morphed in to something different than what I originally planned, and it actually turned out to be a good thing. I paid attention to the fans, what they wanted, what they were doing, without coming right out and telling me, and I followed their lead.

My traffic shot up, and now I have fans clamoring for attention on the page. So, I did that part not only right, but VERY right.

Problem? I still can't figure out how to make money doing this. I tried the CPA thing and it was largely ignored. No one wanted to click through and complete the process. In some cases, it actually ticked off the fans.

How the heck do I make money with my FB fan page that has grown unbelievably in one year?

I found this on another thread: (I put it here so as not to hijack the other guy's thread)

Originally Posted by SFPro View Post

Nobody has mentioned adsense?

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You should create a blog that has a rock solid adsense ctr. Get plenty of content that will provoke discussion/debate/outrage.

At least with adsense you can make money from somebody who lives in a trailor just as easily as you could make money from somebody who drives a Porche.

I have a page with 1.7 million likes and this is exactly how I make my money, between $500-$1000 daily via adsense, just from re-wording viral news stories I find online.

Best of luck
In my experience of owning a blog for many years, far longer than most of you have been on here trying to make money, I actually did put up ads. It was the easiest money in the world. It didn't make me thousands, but it sure did pay for a few bills every month. All I did was insert the code on my site, and I got paid. No one even had to click on the ad, I just got paid for having the ad there. So, that is one way, but it's not very lucrative.

I've heard, or read, that AdSense was a dying thing...but then others say like the above said. Which is it?

Finally, if I wanted to direct them to my website to "continue the discussion" or whatever, how do you pique their interest to go over there? What I've learned is that people have the attention span of a gnat. It doesn't matter how old they are, they don't want to click a lot. They want everything brought to them, they look, they enjoy, they move on. So how do you keep their attention for the extra five seconds it takes to get them to click to another site, even if it is linked to the Fanpage?

Do I have to hold a contest every month? I don't have that kind of money.

In addition, I did try to get more of those clicks things...they click, you receive a few cents...but each time I tried to sign up for one, I had to go through interviews that were rougher than any job interview I've been on. Really? I have to go through that to make a couple of cents a click? I've looked around on things like Offervault but I've had zero success.

Look, if you want to make a course, designed for me, I'd be happy to pay for it if you don't want to give me "free" information. That's fine. The person I bought from last year had GREAT information. I created the FB fan page, I did what they said to do, (well, they did leave out that you have to BUY the fricken advertising but I figured that out, quickly), and the fanpage has grown. The rest of it, though, it's not working. Someone will say that clearly I am not doing something right. So let's go with that and maybe throw me a bone here? I don't need to make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, I'd be content to just make a comfortable living doing this. I just need ideas, in plain English.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clix
    CPA works well, but you have to find offers people might really want. For instance on a fitness page, promote Spartan Race sign ups etc. Stay away from $100 gift card email submit scams type of offers, that will just piss people off.

    Another good way is paid posts, approach companies that would want your fans to know about them and get paid directly. You can have different rates for different things. IE: Facebook post only, Blog + Facebook Post, Blog Facebook and Banner for a month. You can have monthly rates with discounts for 6 mos. 12 mos. etc.

    Another option would be to sell actual products on your blog and promote them here and there on the Facebook page. It's tough to expand on these without knowing the niche, but there's a few options for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author CallOfTheMild
      Originally Posted by Clix View Post

      CPA works well, but you have to find offers people might really want. For instance on a fitness page, promote Spartan Race sign ups etc. Stay away from $100 gift card email submit scams type of offers, that will just piss people off.

      Another good way is paid posts, approach companies that would want your fans to know about them and get paid directly. You can have different rates for different things. IE: Facebook post only, Blog + Facebook Post, Blog Facebook and Banner for a month. You can have monthly rates with discounts for 6 mos. 12 mos. etc.

      Another option would be to sell actual products on your blog and promote them here and there on the Facebook page. It's tough to expand on these without knowing the niche, but there's a few options for you.
      Hi, thanks for the reply. I would love to sell products on the site...I've long thought about how to do that. I don't have any products. I did sign up for the Amazon thing and it's linked but no bites.

      Maybe I'm doing that wrong.

      How do I go about finding paid posts? That would definitely be interesting.

      As far as niche....I won't get too specific, but I will say it is pet related.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clix
    Amazon takes a TON of traffic to be worthwhile. You could look into affiliate accounts with pet stores (Petco etc.), there's probably some on CJ, and I'm sure there are plenty of legit pet CPA offers.

    As for paid posts you could start on Fiverr to get your feet wet, but the best way is to approach companies directly and sell them on it. If your page is Geo specific then go for local pet businesses. If not I'd try some smaller companies first and then go for the big boys.
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    • Profile picture of the author CallOfTheMild
      Originally Posted by Clix View Post

      Amazon takes a TON of traffic to be worthwhile. You could look into affiliate accounts with pet stores (Petco etc.), there's probably some on CJ, and I'm sure there are plenty of legit pet CPA offers.

      As for paid posts you could start on Fiverr to get your feet wet, but the best way is to approach companies directly and sell them on it. If your page is Geo specific then go for local pet businesses. If not I'd try some smaller companies first and then go for the big boys.
      Thanks again. My page is not geo specific if you mean geography wise. Most of the fans do come from the US, but Australia gives them a run for their money. I have a ton of fans from the UK, South America, Asia, and all over Europe, as well, even in to Russia. So I'm also confused about what I'm allowed to do with contests.

      Is there some rule with contests if the person is from another country? I don't want to violate anything, but I can't see how giving something to someone would do that? I'm not sure. I guess there is that whole matter of what the item is worth...I really don't know about that.

      So I would have to start with smaller companies...hmmmm....brainstorming. I really should have paid attention in business class when it came to writing business letters. HA.

      As for CPA, perhaps I have been looking in the wrong places. As stated, I tried the Offervault route but every time I found something pet related, I couldn't get to it, or it was taken or some thing, it never worked for me.

      I also thought about going through Cafe Press...but not sure how to figure out what people would like that they can't get, already. Ok, it's a pet related page. Let's say, (this is not what it is, just an example), it was about pet monkeys. I could make t-shirts, mouse pads, coffee cups, keychains, whatever, with a monkey on it. Yah, how is that any different than any other t-shirt, mug, keychain or mouse pad with a monkey on it? That's where I'm faltering.

      Affiliates work well once you have traffic going to the website. I know how to make some money, some, once I can get people to start going there, the trick is, GETTING them to go there.

      I would love to try CPA again if I could find one that doesn't give me lengthy telephone interviews, (seriously, it has happened), or doesn't tell me I can't do it because I don't have enough posts or fans, (it has happened), and if I could find those that are related to my niche. (Which was rare when trying it through various sites). Am I looking in all the wrong places? If so, WHERE do I go and find these things? And I don't want the type where they have to sign up for a gift card. My very first one that I was going to try was just that. I did it myself just to see how it would run....it was so flipping annoying that I pulled it immediately. Not going to do that to my fans.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clix
    CPA, go with CJ and Peerfly, between the two they should have anything worthwhile. You can also Google Pet Affiliate Programs and see if any of the big companies have in house aff programs, many do.

    Personally I think Facebook contests are a pain in the ass and don't do them, but if you are I would buy a plug in because there are so many hoops it is just easier to pay.

    Cafe Press sucks, go with Spreadshirt if you want to create your own shirts etc. Much better interface IMO.

    As far as the paid post thing, you may have trouble being that your fans are so spread out, but you can just create one generic email and start sending it to every marketing department of every pet company you can find. Be relentless, eventually someone will express interest.

    As always, this is all just my opinion I'm sure others will chime in with theirs.
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  • Profile picture of the author banx63
    The thing is some CPA networks do not allow direct links on some of their offer. I know Peerfly has suffered recently - well, it has with some of the offers I have been promoting. So - I have made a separate landing page/website to send people to. Sure, you lose a bit on the conversions doing it this way but at least your offers remain in tact and I also put a few Adsense adverts on the site too so its a win-win. I f they dont opt in the CPA, they are usually tempted by the Adsense at the bottom of the offer post.
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  • Profile picture of the author january14n
    If you are planning to pursue using Amazon, I suggest you make a review of the product you promote. Make a post that sounds why people should buy the product, what's the benefit from the product that people won't hesitate to check out. The idea from this is to target people who are psychologically set into buying condition not just people looking for information.
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    • Profile picture of the author CallOfTheMild
      Originally Posted by Clix View Post

      CPA, go with CJ and Peerfly, between the two they should have anything worthwhile. You can also Google Pet Affiliate Programs and see if any of the big companies have in house aff programs, many do.
      I have some affiliates lined up already, just need to get them on the site and get people over there. Most of them only cater to US crowds though..not sure how off putting that will be to the other half of the fans.

      Personally I think Facebook contests are a pain in the ass and don't do them, but if you are I would buy a plug in because there are so many hoops it is just easier to pay.
      Did not even know there was a plug in. Interesting, have to find that and see what it's all about.

      Cafe Press sucks, go with Spreadshirt if you want to create your own shirts etc. Much better interface IMO.
      Thank you! I like not using what everyone else uses. Still have to figure out what to make, and see if anyone is even interested.

      As far as the paid post thing, you may have trouble being that your fans are so spread out, but you can just create one generic email and start sending it to every marketing department of every pet company you can find. Be relentless, eventually someone will express interest.
      Well, it would help for the US people, and the Aussies are pretty darn vocal on the fan page. I actually have "liked" a few companies...maybe I'll do free stuff for them just to get some interest up with other companies...let them see what I can do.

      As always, this is all just my opinion I'm sure others will chime in with theirs.
      Very helpful, thanks. You're making my brain start working again.

      Originally Posted by banx63 View Post

      The thing is some CPA networks do not allow direct links on some of their offer. I know Peerfly has suffered recently - well, it has with some of the offers I have been promoting. So - I have made a separate landing page/website to send people to. Sure, you lose a bit on the conversions doing it this way but at least your offers remain in tact and I also put a few Adsense adverts on the site too so its a win-win. I f they dont opt in the CPA, they are usually tempted by the Adsense at the bottom of the offer post.
      I'd prefer a different landing page, such as my website. That way, FB never gets mad at me and deletes me. I guess I'll check out Adsense again. I should try to find those others ads places I used to run years ago. Not a lot of money, but easy money each month. Just have to figure out how to get people to visit the website...still brainstorming, but everything here is helping.

      Originally Posted by january14n View Post

      If you are planning to pursue using Amazon, I suggest you make a review of the product you promote. Make a post that sounds why people should buy the product, what's the benefit from the product that people won't hesitate to check out. The idea from this is to target people who are psychologically set into buying condition not just people looking for information.
      Brilliance! I love it! What a great idea! I get paid to write anyway, (that's what I do for my "real" job), so why not make some extra, writing how I want! I love this idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Truth is, FB doesn't convert in every niche.

    It actually works best for celebrities, politicians, dating, freebies e.t.c.

    Not that you can't make some money off it but nothing compared to a conventional blog deriving targeted traffic.

    FB users seem reluctant and stuck to their primary reasons of joining the social network.

    Yeah, they are gonna like your fan but remember, there is a whole lot of fun seekers, kids, unemployed who spend most of their time socializing then actually taking positive actions.

    I have never bought an item or service from FB even when it showed up in Google search result or search FB for a specific service and i believe most folks are like me.

    Use FB to build your fan base, get idea, advice but don't rely on it for income because you MIGHT be disappointed.
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    • Profile picture of the author CallOfTheMild
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      Truth is, FB doesn't convert in every niche.

      It actually works best for celebrities, politicians, dating, freebies e.t.c.

      Not that you can't make some money off it but nothing compared to a conventional blog.

      FB users seem reluctant and stuck to their primary reasons of joining.

      Yeah, they are gonna like your fan but remember, there is a whole lot of fun seekers, kids, unemployed who spend most of their time socializing then actually taking positive actions.

      Use FB to build your fan base, get idea, advice but don't rely on it for income.
      I'm pretty confident that my niche has people that will switch over and start talking, I just need to come up with the subjects. (It's a very specialized niche and the people who join, know their stuff. I don't have a lot of kids on the site...maybe 5 in total. That is not my demographics. My demographics are 30-60, male and female but mostly female, hard workers, and tend to be professional.)

      I think, along the way, my plan was, (which is why I started the website), to use FB as a way to get traffic. It's easy to get traffic on FB. I then needed to figure out how to get them to go over to the website.

      Now, I'll be honest with you, I have NOT put in a lot of effort in the past year. I put in a bit at the beginning but really needed to concentrate on the fanpage at first. Then, life seriously got in the way, seriously, and while it was easy to still be able to put something up on FB and continue to gain more fans, working on the site, and coming up with ideas, I honestly did not have the time for it. And I mean, I really didn't. Twelve hours shifts and a 3 hour total commute time really leaves you with nothing left. Then the car broke, I lost that job, (thank God), and I found ways to make money doing what I do best. I get to work at home, legitimately, and I am finally at the point where I feel comfortable taking a little time off here and there. (The entire summer, I took 2 days off....the whole summer. It's hard to let go of the apron strings of "corporate America", and become an independent...or, eventually, your own boss. It's a scary move for some of us, and I worked every day so scared that I wouldn't make a living this way...but I am.)

      ANYWAY, but now I feel more comfortable to invest more time in working on the site....so here I am, asking all of these questions. From what I've read over the past year, I am not so sure I really want to "make money" on Facebook. It seems that if you do one thing wrong, you're done. I feel much safer using FB as the means to get the traffic, and then drive that traffic to the site, where I am free to do more without anyone telling me they will suspend me. I own the site, so I am free to do so much more.

      Edit: Forgot to add, that's why I'm interested in the separate landing page for CPA. That's not how most people would do it, but it makes me feel safer.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    I understand your plight, working in the brick and mortar world
    and managing a successful internet business is very difficult
    despite all what others claim.

    Online business is one of the most tactical and time
    consuming business model i have seen and it gets
    tougher if you want to make the income higher,
    stable and consistent.

    Nice to hear you are off the job, the commuting as
    well as back to your feet online and doing amazingly well.

    Ofcourse, if you own an active and fast growing fan page,
    you have to always refer them to a link, picture or video.
    It's not a new idea to refer people to your web page from
    FB, infact that is the trend for fan page that is built for
    business or traffic.

    Just to chip in, it's captivating to use powerful photos/graphics
    when promoting your link in FB.

    I wish you all the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author CallOfTheMild
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      I understand your plight, working in the brick and mortar world
      and managing a successful internet business is very difficult
      despite all what others claim.

      Online business is one of the most tactical and time
      consuming business model i have seen and it gets
      tougher if you want to make the income higher,
      stable and consistent.

      Nice to hear you are off the job, the commuting as
      well as back to your feet online and doing amazingly well.

      Ofcourse, if you own an active and fast growing fan page,
      you have to always refer them to a link, picture or video.
      It's not a new idea to refer people to your web page from
      FB, infact that is the trend for fan page that is built for
      business or traffic.

      Just to chip in, it's captivating to use powerful photos/graphics
      when promoting your link in FB.

      I wish you all the best.
      Thanks! Powerful photos are used daily, it's how the traffic keeps growing. The problem is, I can't seem to find a good plug in that transfers over to Facebook to reach the readers as well as posting directly on to Facebook. I may just have to do a post on Facebook, and on the website, and put a link on the Facebook post.

      If I post directly on to Facebook, I get thousands and thousands of hits. If I post through my website to also go on to Facebook, I get a smattering of hits. Frustrating. But, I guess until I find the right plug in, I'll just have to do things manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author wil4dgc
    what I think you can do is, go over google, or blog searches and search out a few stories relevant to your recent post or those in line with the leads that your audience have been talking about. Create a similar story or article. This has to be very helpful, you can get a writer from textbrokers or iwriter to do it for you quickly or you can do it yourself. Add the helpful and relevant content to your blog, add some adsense to it and one affiliate offer from product from an affiliate site or CPA offer. Clickbank would likely have an offer closest to your niche and topic focused on, this has to be embedded in the keywords in the article. You will also have to mention how relevant or good it is use the services or products like the one you are promoting on the offer.

    Alternatively, you could get paid a few backs for posting someones post directing them to their page.

    I hope this helps.

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