How I turned $250 in Facebook ads into $810 revenue within 3 days...

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What's up guys?

Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

Take a look at my latest one...



$260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

I'll take it!

This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

TARGETING!!!!

Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

Travis
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Great post petelta

    More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.

    Anyway... Teespring + FB Ads is definitely worth doing, and you can even make a helluva lot more than the numbers you posted.

    The only flaw with is that getting paid from Teespring takes a little while, but besides that, it's a rock-solid method.

    Keep on keepin' on!
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      Awesome post with lots of detailed and helpful information! I love how you explained your entire system which leads to the questions I have. Based on my understanding that you are uploading 10 to 20 designs per day done by your designer for $50 to $300 per day in design costs plus creating all of the ad campaigns for $100 to $400 total to find the few campaigns that catch on, I am assuming you are happy with the amount of your investment in time and money with the outcome in payouts from teespring? If others want to try this, would I be correct in saying they would need to either be able to do their own designs and ads along with having a line of either credit or cash capable of withstanding the initial investment prior to getting paid by teespring?

      Finally, I have just started seeing teespring ads today. What are the odds those are yours?
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by banwork View Post

        Awesome post with lots of detailed and helpful information! I love how you explained your entire system which leads to the questions I have. Based on my understanding that you are uploading 10 to 20 designs per day done by your designer for $50 to $300 per day in design costs plus creating all of the ad campaigns for $100 to $400 total to find the few campaigns that catch on, I am assuming you are happy with the amount of your investment in time and money with the outcome in payouts from teespring? If others want to try this, would I be correct in saying they would need to either be able to do their own designs and ads along with having a line of either credit or cash capable of withstanding the initial investment prior to getting paid by teespring?

        Finally, I have just started seeing teespring ads today. What are the odds those are yours?
        The tshirt designs needed cost around $5-$25 depending on the designer you get. Most of my successful campaigns are straight text that I created with the Teespring editor itself. So a lot of those shirts, I'm not spending a dime on design.

        I spend $20 on every tshirt campaign I start. When it gets to $20, I see if it's in the black or the red. If it's in the black, that means it's making money and I let it ride until it lulls. If it's in the red, I stop the campaign all together and drop it.

        Out of 10, I'm averaging 3 winners that will do like the one in the post above. 1/10 of those winners though are big winners that make thousands of dollars.

        I started this method last month and spent a total of $500. That was learning and figuring it out. I ended up with a revenue of around $1500 from December.

        This month, I set aside $8k for this project. That's for designers, ads, and VAs. I'm on track to revenue $20k with that $8k though. Next month, I will go bigger.

        If you like any sports teams on Facebook, there's a good chance you've seen one of my ads lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          The tshirt designs needed cost around $5-$25 depending on the designer you get. Most of my successful campaigns are straight text that I created with the Teespring editor itself. So a lot of those shirts, I'm not spending a dime on design.

          I spend $20 on every tshirt campaign I start. When it gets to $20, I see if it's in the black or the red. If it's in the black, that means it's making money and I let it ride until it lulls. If it's in the red, I stop the campaign all together and drop it.

          Out of 10, I'm averaging 3 winners that will do like the one in the post above. 1/10 of those winners though are big winners that make thousands of dollars.

          I started this method last month and spent a total of $500. That was learning and figuring it out. I ended up with a revenue of around $1500 from December.

          This month, I set aside $8k for this project. That's for designers, ads, and VAs. I'm on track to revenue $20k with that $8k though. Next month, I will go bigger.

          If you like any sports teams on Facebook, there's a good chance you've seen one of my ads lol.
          Reminds me of a recent article I read:
          The Habits of Successful People: Thinking in Ratios - The Buffer Blog

          Though you may want to watch out for copyright (images logos?) and trademark concerns if you'r riding on sport teams.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by humbledmarket View Post

            Though you may want to watch out for copyright (images logos?) and trademark concerns if you'r riding on sport teams.
            Yea, this is important. You don't want to use trademarks. It only takes being creative to have designs that don't break the law though.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by jamescanz View Post

      Great post petelta

      More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.
      Some people did pay handsomely for this. There was a WSO released on this very subject on Dec 31. The vendor also mentions an important word that there is no danger that both of you would have thought of, "passion".

      Just saying
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by jamescanz View Post

      Great post petelta

      More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.

      Anyway... Teespring + FB Ads is definitely worth doing, and you can even make a helluva lot more than the numbers you posted.

      The only flaw with is that getting paid from Teespring takes a little while, but besides that, it's a rock-solid method.

      Keep on keepin' on!
      Everyone's doing Teespring stuff now....

      I'll give it 6 months before it gets screwed for everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        I'll give it 6 months before it gets screwed for everyone.
        6 months? It's already screwed for everyone. It was only a matter of time before they cracked down.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          6 months? It's already screwed for everyone. It was only a matter of time before they cracked down.
          I still make plenty from Teespring campaigns. But I follow the rules. Teespring isn't the product here too. So this model isn't affected when it comes down to it. Use another vendor and things work just fine.

          The only Facbeook changes happening is they are cracking down on people not following the ToS... if you've used custom audiences in the past, 99% of you are breaking the ToS. No one does custom audiences the way they say in the rules... until now.
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            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            The only Facbeook changes happening is they are cracking down on people not following the ToS... if you've used custom audiences in the past, 99% of you are breaking the ToS. No one does custom audiences the way they say in the rules... until now.
            Do you use custom audiences for your teespring campaign?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Those numbers are great.

    But don't keep all of your eggs in the teespring/facebook basket as I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook decides one day that they don't want hundreds of people running ads like this all at the same time

    But may as well milk it for as much as you can while the gettin is good
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

      Those numbers are great.

      But don't keep all of your eggs in the teespring/facebook basket as I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook decides one day that they don't want hundreds of people running ads like this all at the same time

      But may as well milk it for as much as you can while the gettin is good
      Facebook just changed their whole system so you would do more ads like this

      For every successful tshirt campaign I have, I have a fan page associated with it. As the ads run, some of those viewers like your fan page. From there, it's the same Facebook marketing + list building system I would always do... except promoting the product right away makes back my initial investment instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author R1987x
    I have to admit, awesome work. Great work digging into your target group!
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  • Profile picture of the author sanf0rd1
    Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sanf0rd1 View Post

      Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
      Not true at all. I'm scaling this right now. You just rinse and repeat this. This system is very very new. There are sooooo many untouched niches right now.
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      • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Not true at all. I'm scaling this right now. You just rinse and repeat this. This system is very very new. There are sooooo many untouched niches right now.
        I agree with you. Your systerm has huge potential.
        my suggest is, not limited your products at Teespring, you'd better to extend it to the globe, by this way, your competitors are not able to copy your model easily.
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      • Profile picture of the author davidtye
        Good ROI.
        Make the most of it while it lasts as FB won't allow loads of ads like that all at the same time forever.
        Nice work though.
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    • Profile picture of the author mtree
      Originally Posted by sanf0rd1 View Post

      Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
      exactly right
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      • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
        Okay, I`m confused...

        I`m about to start a Teespring campaign and I thought you could raise your goal later on during the campaign (by emailing them) if you see that you`re selling well?

        But the support staff at Teespring says that you can`t raise your goal once the campaign is started, you can only lower it?

        Can anyone shed some light on this for me please??

        Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author sakib777
    Great technique petelta................ I am willing to have a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author big tymer
    I read your original post and thought what the hell, I will give it a try with a product of mine that is very niche specific. I started on Monday and spent about $19 on fb ads and made sales of $120 on something that costs me $3 to make and I sell for $20.

    The hard part for me is drilling down and finding the target market as I don't want such a general group. But for some reason, pages that have followers that I want to add to my ad group so the ad is shown to them, I am not able to.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Great work! How do you start your bidding? At a high CPC and then bring it down?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Great work! How do you start your bidding? At a high CPC and then bring it down?
      I bid a few cents over the highest suggested big and let it run. I will only adjust up when the suggested rises.

      The cost of the ad itself really comes down to more of the activity on the ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author BKenn01
    Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by BKenn01 View Post

      Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
      Teespring is tightening up more and more on these when they catch them. You have to be creative and not use trademarks. There are many things that would fit fine with Yankees fans without having to use a team logo or even the name.

      Exit the Sandman was a shirt that sold a ton of copies when Mariano... their hall of fame closer... retired. That was a buzz design that hit right on.

      Like I said, it's about creativity.
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      • Profile picture of the author BKenn01
        Thanks for all the help I have been considering this and have an idea for one. Any recommendations on a designer?
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    • Profile picture of the author IMBlest
      Originally Posted by BKenn01 View Post

      Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
      I didn't know that words like "God" and "Family" have been trademarked.

      Where did you get that idea?
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryAllen
    Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
    BA,
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      Originally Posted by BarryAllen View Post

      Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
      BA,
      Like Petelta said...it's about "creativity"...

      Thus, one would be pretty stupid to take an image of a sports team "Logo" and print that up on a T-Shirt and try and sell it....

      However, as given in his example of his Auburn Shirt, what Petelta did was basically became the 'announcer' who is calling the game...BRILLIANT if you ask me!

      Think outside of the box and you should be fine!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by BarryAllen View Post

      Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
      BA,
      CREATIVITY! Don't use their trademarked names. Yankees might be trademarked, but "New York" isn't. simple stuff like.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    Thanks for all this info, this is awesome. I've already started experimenting (no positive results yet though)

    Question: What are the common aspects that tie together your most successful shirts?

    Copyright question: Are lines from songs or movies copyrighted? If I put a movie quote on a shirt with no symbols or copyrighted character names, is that legal?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      Thanks for all this info, this is awesome. I've already started experimenting (no positive results yet though)

      Question: What are the common aspects that tie together your most successful shirts?

      Copyright question: Are lines from songs or movies copyrighted? If I put a movie quote on a shirt with no symbols or copyrighted character names, is that legal?
      The common aspects to a winner are choosing a social niche and the design. With those two things, you have a winner.

      Lines from movies, tv shows, and movies are wide open for you. I'm actually testing a few right now out there that fit this criteria. I think tey could do well.

      Travis
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    Travis, stupid question, what is VA, and what exactly are they doing for you? thanks and love your business mind!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by wrbeckett View Post

      Travis, stupid question, what is VA, and what exactly are they doing for you? thanks and love your business mind!
      VA = virtual assistant

      My VA researches social media images that can be used as fan page messages... posts fan page messages on all my active pages... and interacts with fans on these fan pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    What's the conversion rate for your successful shirts? How many clicks does it take to get a sale? I've had 18 clicks on my ads so far and 0 sales (I even included the price of the shirts in the ad to possibly avoid people who click just to see the price).

    Is this one you would consider a loss and move on? I've only spent about $5 on ads for it so far, I was going to give it one more day.

    Oh and I have a pretty targeted audience of about 2600.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      What's the conversion rate for your successful shirts? How many clicks does it take to get a sale? I've had 18 clicks on my ads so far and 0 sales (I even included the price of the shirts in the ad to possibly avoid people who click just to see the price).

      Is this one you would consider a loss and move on? I've only spent about $5 on ads for it so far, I was going to give it one more day.

      Oh and I have a pretty targeted audience of about 2600.
      It depends on how many clicks until you get a sale. The key is to watch the profit margin as you spend money. Set a limit you want to test each shirt at and when you hit that point make the choice.

      So, if you set a $20 test point. Let the ads run until $20. Look at how much profit you make per sale and look at how many sales have been made.

      If none, then drop it and move on. If you have made $35 revenue but spent $20 in ads, then beef it up and bid more.

      $5 and 18 clicks is not enough to tell really.

      Also, 2,600 audience is really really small. I'm targeting audiences that range from 30k - 2m
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    This is really helpful information for anybody looking to start a business with limited capital... A great way to build a bank before breaking into different areas in IM!
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    This is awesome! I have a few questions if you don't mind answering:

    1) How do you go about image selection? My newsfeed ads don't scale into the allocated space and it only fits 1/2 of the image in.

    2) How do you track your conversions? At the moment when I'm creating a campaign I'm using the "click to website" feature because I am unsure how to track.

    Thanks very much for your help!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      This is awesome! I have a few questions if you don't mind answering:

      1) How do you go about image selection? My newsfeed ads don't scale into the allocated space and it only fits 1/2 of the image in.

      2) How do you track your conversions? At the moment when I'm creating a campaign I'm using the "click to website" feature because I am unsure how to track.

      Thanks very much for your help!
      1 - Not sure what you mean here. You have to make the images fit whichever add type you're creating... side bar ads = 100x72... newsfeed ads = 600 x 315 (or something like that)

      2 - I only watch the profit compared to the ad spend. So, I only use "click to website" option as well. CTR, amount of clicks, cost per click, etc mean very little to me. The only thing I care about is "am I making more money than I'm spending on this"
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      • Profile picture of the author tazman100
        Hi Petelta, I don't know if you'll answer this question but it's worth a shot to ask. I've been running Teespring campaigns for a couple of months with no success. I have done CPC with no sales, CPM with 1 and Boosted page for a couple of sales. I run between $5-10 before I call it quits. Could you give us an example of a type of ad you may run? Don't need to specify niche just a rough idea. I'm not sure if I'm wording my ads wrong or what the case is. Some shirts I got designed were really good designs in my opinion and I use a layout of the shirt in my ad or a close up of the graphic in my ads. I have also put a price tag on the picture showing the "regular" price crossed out and added the "sale" price. But no luck. I know money can be made here but I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm also targeting my audience related to the niche I'm promoting the shirt for but still no luck
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by tazman100 View Post

          Hi Petelta, I don't know if you'll answer this question but it's worth a shot to ask. I've been running Teespring campaigns for a couple of months with no success. I have done CPC with no sales, CPM with 1 and Boosted page for a couple of sales. I run between $5-10 before I call it quits. Could you give us an example of a type of ad you may run? Don't need to specify niche just a rough idea. I'm not sure if I'm wording my ads wrong or what the case is. Some shirts I got designed were really good designs in my opinion and I use a layout of the shirt in my ad or a close up of the graphic in my ads. I have also put a price tag on the picture showing the "regular" price crossed out and added the "sale" price. But no luck. I know money can be made here but I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm also targeting my audience related to the niche I'm promoting the shirt for but still no luck
          Here's an example ad I have running this morning...


          Targets people 16-No Max age that are interested in Contra and Nintendo
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole Thomas
    I have been using FaceBook just to promote my guest posts but was not aware of these techniques. I will certainly give it a try too.
    Thanks for sharing this useful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author karenfisher252
    Facebook is now extending its services to all niches. With so many options to use Facebook ads for like website traffic, page likes, app installs etc. They are not only doing it but doing it really well.
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    Hey Petelta,

    Thank you for sharing you Experience with Facebook ads.
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    Great idea, petelta! It proves that facebook is not dead! Just have to make a good advertisement and good targeting and the things will be start!
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    Sounds like fun! Thinking about it ;-)
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    Also, 2,600 audience is really really small. I'm targeting audiences that range from 30k - 2m
    Well there's my problem. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author partyfavor
    Great post Patelta!

    Question for you (and any other experts in the thread), do you recommend cloaking the teespring link in your ad? Reason why I am wondering about that is from the posts about getting your account banned due to affiliate links etc...

    I know a great way to do the marketing is advertise your FB page first. then from there post your offer, BUT with all these constant algorithm changes its absurd to spend money building a page and then only hitting 5-10% of them (and need to spend money again to boost your post to your own fans).

    I want to skip that middle part, forget the faceb page, and not waste time and money. Just directly advertise the shirt/offer and thus target interested buyers from all over FB (not just my own page, forget the page =)

    dangerous move now with them looking at aff links more carefully?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by partyfavor View Post

      Great post Patelta!

      Question for you (and any other experts in the thread), do you recommend cloaking the teespring link in your ad? Reason why I am wondering about that is from the posts about getting your account banned due to affiliate links etc...

      I know a great way to do the marketing is advertise your FB page first. then from there post your offer, BUT with all these constant algorithm changes its absurd to spend money building a page and then only hitting 5-10% of them (and need to spend money again to boost your post to your own fans).

      I want to skip that middle part, forget the faceb page, and not waste time and money. Just directly advertise the shirt/offer and thus target interested buyers from all over FB (not just my own page, forget the page =)

      dangerous move now with them looking at aff links more carefully?
      I don't cloak my links. A lot of the times these days, I create redirect pages though because I have so many campaigns going on and I switch up where traffic should go sometimes.

      Facebook bans users for promoting affiliate offers that are against their TOS... they love for you to promote affiliate products on the other hand.

      Sending viewers straight to a landing page is another way of going about this for sure. You will want to make sure your sales funnel is set up to convert over the long run though. I run these teespring ad so that I make my investment back within 24 hours instead of waiting for an email series to make sales days or even weeks later.

      I add those email systems in as well, but after the initial sale. Also, a perk of this system is that your ad is being posted from a niche specific fan page... so people that click but don't buy usually end up liking your fan page anyways. So you can market on all ends to continue selling to this crowd.

      My recent batch of shirts are all around 3 niches. I want to grow thes 3 niche fan pages to the 10k mark while selling shit tons of shirts to them. Then I just follow my typical facebook marketing sequence. Even though the algorithm has changed and organic traffic has dropped, it's still there... and if you can generate fans while still making profit, you are set.
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    Hey Travis, are you creating fan pages, or posting on existing fan pages? thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by wrbeckett View Post

      Hey Travis, are you creating fan pages, or posting on existing fan pages? thanks!
      I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

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      • Profile picture of the author masterpaintingnow
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

        Travis
        I purchased your facebook ads video course because I need to learn how to hardness the power of facebook ads, for my art courses and other things.

        Question: How do you turn facebook pages into an email list? Do you need to use special software?

        I hope to learn a lot from your course like the part about custom audiences, which I images uses scraping.

        Thanks for your time.

        I have some cool idea for T-shirt and niches. Originally, I only read this thread to learn more about facebook ads. I had no interests in selling shirts, but this got so many ideas rolling that I think I could sell shirts and hoodies. I imagine hoodies really bring in the money, but I wonder if they do so well in spring and summer.

        I just have to figure out once I have a cool niche idea, people that are very passionate about a subject, do I make 10 different designs for that niche, or just a few?
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      • Profile picture of the author dyerg
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

        Travis
        Petelta, I'm new to this side of the world (internet marketing) and I came to Warrior Forum today specifically to see if I can find some information on Teespring and Facebook so thank you for your post. I'm really happy for your success, excited about the opportunity, and jealous of your results lol.

        My brother introduced me to Teespring and he made a couple shirt designs and they happen to be in a pretty good niche (in my opinion). He had no idea how to market it so I wanted to try what I've been learning about target marketing on facebook. I did UID scraping for the niche and got about 95k uid's and I was soooo sure we will be able to sell 100 shirts in no time (that's the goal my brother set).

        I'm starting to think the goal was too high but regardless of the high goal, we sold 1 shirt in the past 3 days of advertising... My ad is getting good exposure and I have over 600 likes on the ad itself but it's not converting to purchases.... Am I just in the wrong niche? Is it just that these people don't want to spend money? Or should I be able to sell this but it's not happening because I'm doing it wrong? Any comment will be greatly appreciated...
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          Originally Posted by dyerg View Post

          Petelta, I'm new to this side of the world (internet marketing) and I came to Warrior Forum today specifically to see if I can find some information on Teespring and Facebook so thank you for your post. I'm really happy for your success, excited about the opportunity, and jealous of your results lol.

          My brother introduced me to Teespring and he made a couple shirt designs and they happen to be in a pretty good niche (in my opinion). He had no idea how to market it so I wanted to try what I've been learning about target marketing on facebook. I did UID scraping for the niche and got about 95k uid's and I was soooo sure we will be able to sell 100 shirts in no time (that's the goal my brother set).

          I'm starting to think the goal was too high but regardless of the high goal, we sold 1 shirt in the past 3 days of advertising... My ad is getting good exposure and I have over 600 likes on the ad itself but it's not converting to purchases.... Am I just in the wrong niche? Is it just that these people don't want to spend money? Or should I be able to sell this but it's not happening because I'm doing it wrong? Any comment will be greatly appreciated...

          I think you have the right niche, but not a great design.
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          • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
            Originally Posted by airpr23 View Post

            I think you have the right niche, but not a great design.
            Agreed. If you are getting a lot of likes and shares, but not sales, it's probably the design.
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            • Profile picture of the author dyerg
              Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

              Agreed. If you are getting a lot of likes and shares, but not sales, it's probably the design.
              Agh... It's a simple front and a really cool back design (at least imo)... Same thing is happening to another niche we chose... cpc rate is little higher because we went with a bit bigger niche to see if number of audience will increase sale... 0 sale so far (4 days) fml..

              What would you guys suggest as far as design? Will getting a contract designer to make one yield better result? Or does that still take my own creativity? (as in I should probably look somewhere else since my design ideas are not being accepted the same way to others, which will suck but truth is truth I guess.)
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I thought I would add a little motivation to you guys who are following this post.

    You saw my results from week 1 with the free methods in the post I linked to in the beginning... You saw week 2 results from the image in the original thread above... now here is week 3 from rinsing and repeating...



    I've spent around $1000 total in ads for the campaigns above. I would of been able to break $10k in a single week if Facebook would take raise my damn daily spending limit. I'm stuck at $350/day right now.
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      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      I thought I would add a little motivation to you guys who are following this post.

      You saw my results from week 1 with the free methods in the post I linked to in the beginning... You saw week 2 results from the image in the original thread above... now here is week 3 from rinsing and repeating...



      I've spent around $1000 total in ads for the campaigns above. I would of been able to break $10k in a single week if Facebook would take raise my damn daily spending limit. I'm stuck at $350/day right now.
      IMPRESIVE! I am so glad this is working; thanks for sharing, glad to hear of your results
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    great, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

    Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

    I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

    Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

      Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

      I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      At the end of the day its all about testing.

      You are losing in the morning and winning in the afternoon. What does that tell you? Stop advertising in the morning and concentrate in the afternoon lol. Remember shops, for example, will have their busy hours. During the day when people are working their busy hours will be around lunch times. Same for internet buying. When someones on lunch they will invariably go on to FB "just to see whats happening".

      Me personally I find it a goldmine, but only if you have the right idea and target the right people. I punted an idea over on the CPA sub forum, thats just one of hundreds I have lol
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        At the end of the day its all about testing.

        You are losing in the morning and winning in the afternoon. What does that tell you? Stop advertising in the morning and concentrate in the afternoon lol. Remember shops, for example, will have their busy hours. During the day when people are working their busy hours will be around lunch times. Same for internet buying. When someones on lunch they will invariably go on to FB "just to see whats happening".
        Excellent advice! I will be adding this to my strategy for sure. I haven't been turning them off at certain times of the day... but I can see why that would help. great stuff.

        With Teespring campaigns, it's all about the scarcity effect of having short campaigns. A good ad will only really hit hard for 3-4 days before it starts to die off. So what has helped me recently is turning off my ads on day 4 or 5. Let them sit until the last day of the Teespring campaign (usually 7-10 days). Turn them back on and they usually hit with big conversions. I have been getting a ton of sales on the last day... but that's because I make it very obvious on the last day that IT'S THE LAST DAY.

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      • Profile picture of the author FingerPicker
        This looks a lot like Harlan Kilsteins program which he sells for 100 bucks!
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      • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
        Being my first post I just find this not credible. If you divide the number of sales into the profit claimed, then the profit per shirt varies from $13 to $17. This means he would be selling t-shirts for a minimum of $22.00 to $30.00 or more plus shipping, depending on the brand of shirt and number of colors in the design. I don't buy this for a minute.
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        • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
          Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

          Being my first post I just find this not credible. If you divide the number of sales into the profit claimed, then the profit per shirt varies from $13 to $17. This means he would be selling t-shirts for a minimum of $22.00 to $30.00 or more plus shipping, depending on the brand of shirt and number of colors in the design. I don't buy this for a minute.
          He´s not selling anything! :rolleyes:

          Conversions means sales, one sale doesn't mean one unit!
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          • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
            The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
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            • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
              You should continue your research...because the numbers DO add up. Many people are making $$$ with TeeSpring. The profits listed per shirt are accurate, and selling a shirt for $21.91 is not a ridiculous price, there are probably a few tees at WalMart that sell for that much, lol.

              There are sites you can use to see successful campaigns that have sold anywhere from 10+ to 1000+ shirts. That's proof positive right there for you that $$$ is being made. For the huge number of shirts sold (1000+), it's usually a combo of a good amount of money being spent on ads, PLUS it going viral to at least some degree.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                I didn't say teespring campaigns cannot be successful, most are not due to a variety of factors. Of course there are some very successful campaigns.

                But you are making this guy out to be a guru and I always want to check things first so I do the math. People are wasting their money and I think the math just doesn't add up.

                Examples given:
                $567.91 - 38 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $14.95
                $854.81 - 56 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.26
                $1059.59 - 69 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.36

                All these shirts would have to sell in the $24.13 to $26.11 price range plus shipping, in order to get that kind of profit. And a one color or two color shirt with just printing and a $10 design is not going to sell in the $28.00 to $30.00 price range after you include shipping. Just is not going to happen!!!


                And if you go to walmart to buy a $22 tshirt, then that walmart must be pretty upscale.

                There may be some good advice on this thread, but it must come from credible numbers. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
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                • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  I didn't say teespring campaigns cannot be successful, most are not due to a variety of factors. Of course there are some very successful campaigns.

                  But you are making this guy out to be a guru and I always want to check things first so I do the math. People are wasting their money and I think the math just doesn't add up.

                  Examples given:
                  $567.91 - 38 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $14.95
                  $854.81 - 56 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.26
                  $1059.59 - 69 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.36

                  All these shirts would have to sell in the $24.13 to $26.11 price range plus shipping, in order to get that kind of profit. And a one color or two color shirt with just printing and a $10 design is not going to sell in the $28.00 to $30.00 price range after you include shipping. Just is not going to happen!!!


                  And if you go to walmart to buy a $22 tshirt, then that walmart must be pretty upscale.

                  There may be some good advice on this thread, but it must come from credible numbers. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
                  You can´t put shipping there, it´s Teespring´s problem, we don´t handle that, the client pays shippment extra and of course you don´t get comission for that.
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            • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
              I sold 59 shirts at 21.99 with $57 advertising fee´s... It´s possible!
              You just need to target very right and have a good design.

              Remember this thread is to give FREE information, as he is so gladly doing, and your post´s are a bit bad...

              You can´t do it, try to do it, if you can´t, don´t say it´s impossible.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                Free information still needs to be good information. And shipping is a cost to the customer that is added on to the shirt. The customer must pay this so a $25 shirt plus $3.95 shipping is $28.95 for a one color, Hanes, $10 designed tshirt.

                If you want to sell tshirts, you want good designs and you are willing to spend money on facebook advertising, which is why I am here originally (learning about facebook advertising), you can PM me. I think the teespring model is a pretty good one and can be adapted better.
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                • Profile picture of the author petelta
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  Free information still needs to be good information. And shipping is a cost to the customer that is added on to the shirt. The customer must pay this so a $25 shirt plus $3.95 shipping is $28.95 for a one color, Hanes, $10 designed tshirt.

                  If you want to sell tshirts, you want good designs and you are willing to spend money on facebook advertising, which is why I am here originally (learning about facebook advertising), you can PM me. I think the teespring model is a pretty good one and can be adapted better.
                  The campaigns are definitely legit... I have released multiple case studies showing how it's done.... here you go:

                  Case Study #1 - https://s3.amazonaws.com/TeeProfitPu...CaseStudy.html
                  Case Study #2 - https://s3.amazonaws.com/TeeProfitPu...CaseStudy.html

                  There are many variables that come into play when your profit per campaign is calculated... the amount of colors your use... the color of the base tshirt... the style of the base shirt... the goal amount you start with...

                  All of those factors can help you make more per sale and I go for max profit per sale each campaign.

                  As you said in your first post, you are new here and have no credibility... maybe you should learn to do a little more research before being a dick. Naysayers are a disease for the successful. You won't be welcomed long if you don't.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennisr32
        I am researching getting into TeeSpring, so I am looking at a lot of resources. Has anyone had any experience with the product Teesplit? I gues it lets you split test different designs and then run with the best one. Any input would be great.

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      • Profile picture of the author kajuma
        Thanks for sharing this, Petelta. I've realized a little while back that running ads on Facebook may very well be more profitable than Google ads, simply because of the ability to really target a specific audience.

        It's awesome to see positive results coming from someone that has actually been making it work for them.

        I like the idea of getting a VA to interact on my behalf, because I couldn't imagine responding to everyone that posts or comments.
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        Very nice 5 Stars
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      Sounds like you're doing good then.

      You probably need either to find a more passionate or buzz worthy niche... or you need to improve the shirt design.

      If your campaigns are breaking even or making a small profit, you're only 1 tweak away from making more profit. Now it's time for you to test all the different angles.

      When I release my new designs, I am launching 10 new designs a day. Out of those designs 2-3 usually will start to roll. That means they just break even or better. That's a win in my book... especially when you're building a fan page/list from the same traffic that you can continue to promote to. That's pretty much free buyer leads.

      It doesn't end there though. I start testing ads, interests, and shirt design variations from each of those winners. Sometimes a simple color change on the shirt makes something sell 10x more. I test that... if the bad one is at worst breaking even... then the good ones are going to be GOOD.

      Keep testing man. You're right around the corner from making some serious cash.
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    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

      Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

      I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      Hey sackanub,

      Have you considered day-parting your ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    What's the advantage to using TeeSpring as opposed to a more permanent site? Since there's a time limit on TeeSpring you only have X days to make sales AND you have to fill your quota to make anything.

    I have an account on Society6 that, with a few simple steps in photoshop, allows me to have shirts (many colors), sweatshirts, tank tops, art prints, mugs, pillows, laptop and iPhone skins all available for sale permanently. I'm sure you're aware that there are sites like this one and others, so I'm curious why you choose TeeSpring.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      What's the advantage to using TeeSpring as opposed to a more permanent site? Since there's a time limit on TeeSpring you only have X days to make sales AND you have to fill your quota to make anything.

      I have an account on Society6 that, with a few simple steps in photoshop, allows me to have shirts (many colors), sweatshirts, tank tops, art prints, mugs, pillows, laptop and iPhone skins all available for sale permanently. I'm sure you're aware that there are sites like this one and others, so I'm curious why you choose TeeSpring.
      It's a hot platform right now. Plus it goes with Facebook traffic very well.

      In the long run, a drop ship system will be set up.
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    Nice earnings and good ROI mate!

    Now rinse and repeat. The niche is a big one, that's true, but there is a piece of this cake for everybody, people won't ever stop buying shirts =)
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Thanks for the responses icon and petelta.. And yea, last night before going to bed I paused the campaign I have been pumping the most money to. I unpaused it a few hours ago and with $12 I have made $60. It's just so random that in the mornings even when I get 100+ clicks it doesnt convert. The longest streak I've gone is 250+ website clicks without a conversion after converting 4 in first 36 clicks. Is this happening to you guys?

    Last night I also made one where I had 2 separate conversions in 10 clicks.. It has been 50 clicks since that and haven't had any more conversions. So frustrating when you think you have a winner but you don't.

    BTW, what are you guys pricing your hoodies?
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
    I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

    32 clicks to website
    38 cents per click (to website)
    Advert Reach 1490
    Total Clicks 60
    4 Page Likes
    Total Spend $12
    0 sales.

    At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
      I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

      32 clicks to website
      38 cents per click (to website)
      Advert Reach 1490
      Total Clicks 60
      4 Page Likes
      Total Spend $12
      0 sales.

      At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
      I would let it go another $8 and then decide... but it would be on my list of potential drops at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
      I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

      32 clicks to website
      38 cents per click (to website)
      Advert Reach 1490
      Total Clicks 60
      4 Page Likes
      Total Spend $12
      0 sales.

      At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
      Looks pretty similar to mine. I have made 4 sales but nothing since Sunday. I am tempted to put the ad on hold and see if I can make any sales between now and the day my listing dies off.

      I do have 60 likes on my teespring ad but only the handful if sales.

      If anyone wants to chat on Skype to talk about this method, send me a PM.
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        How are you guys making out today? It has been my worst day by far. 0 conversions in nearly 200 website clicks throughout my campaigns. My last design I spent 450 and made 300 profit. I improved the design by adding elements to it and making it look better but it doesn't sell. Actually, just sold 2 while typing this.
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        • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
          Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

          How are you guys making out today? It has been my worst day by far. 0 conversions in nearly 200 website clicks throughout my campaigns. My last design I spent 450 and made 300 profit. I improved the design by adding elements to it and making it look better but it doesn't sell. Actually, just sold 2 while typing this.
          I did bad myself. Not a single sale since Sunday. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. On the teespring site my ad has nearly 100 likes. There are some others that have sold in the hundreds that have only a few likes. Not that likes are the end all be all, but you'd think there would be a little correlation. I have 4 sales out of those 100 likes and over 250 click throughs from my FB ad.

          For now I'm putting my ad on pause, no sense spending good money after bad. Meanwhile I'm going to try some other campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    I love this thread. Your sharing for nothing in return (except for some possible competition!) is very refreshing, and your idea is well thought out.

    A couple questions:
    1. Do you have any suggestions for someone who doesn't have a couple hundred dollars to experiment with? I have a little money to play with, but if you had to start this whole thing over and only had, let's say, $50 or $100, what would you do? Cheaper ads in other countries? Posting in Facebook groups?

    2. What are the numbers of your most successful shirt so far? I noticed on TeeSpring if I want to sell a shirt for a reasonable price my profit margin is only about 1-3 dollars (and that's with a campaign of 40 shirts). You have mentioned making thousands, which implies selling thousands of one shirt. Is that true? How many clicks did it take to sell those X,000 shirts? That's what I'm interested in. What's the conversion rate for a successful campaign for you?

    3. Are you (or anybody else reading this who has a Facebook shirt page) interested in a page sharing exchange? Can't hurt to ask. Let me know.

    Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      A couple questions:
      1. Do you have any suggestions for someone who doesn't have a couple hundred dollars to experiment with? I have a little money to play with, but if you had to start this whole thing over and only had, let's say, $50 or $100, what would you do? Cheaper ads in other countries? Posting in Facebook groups?

      2. What are the numbers of your most successful shirt so far? I noticed on TeeSpring if I want to sell a shirt for a reasonable price my profit margin is only about 1-3 dollars (and that's with a campaign of 40 shirts). You have mentioned making thousands, which implies selling thousands of one shirt. Is that true? How many clicks did it take to sell those X,000 shirts? That's what I'm interested in. What's the conversion rate for a successful campaign for you?

      3. Are you (or anybody else reading this who has a Facebook shirt page) interested in a page sharing exchange? Can't hurt to ask. Let me know.
      1. I started this 3 weeks ago just promoting through groups using no ads. If you're going to go free technique ways, it's imperative you go after super hot buzz niches that are being talked about NOW.

      You can have great success with $100, but I would try and have $500 available to get this rolling.

      2. The most shirts I sold was 220 and I was making only a few dollars per shirt. So I profited $1000 from that campaign. My second biggest campaign has sold 78 shirts. I have them priced higher than average and make a much bigger profit per sale. I think I've profited around $600 from those 78 sales.

      You can sell hoodies exclusively for some campaigns around $39.99 and make $20+ per sale.

      The shirt campaigns that sell 1000+ copies typically revenue $12k-$20k. I've only seen others do it so far... but I'm only 3 weeks in to this so one is coming soon enough.

      3. haven't seen one
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    3. haven't seen one
    Sorry, maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. I just meant, I share one of your pages on my Facebook page and you share mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I have had no luck at all. Tons of likes, (over 100 for one shirt) but NO sales haha!

    For some reason, the News Feed ads raise from approx .32c when kicking off the ad, to about $4 for suggested bid. It's crazy! Ads pretty much stop unless you pitch near the suggested bid rate which is ludicrous!

    I'll throw another $1000 at this gig and if no success, will eat my hat and move on
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    So then, which one of you is "Koolnerd" on Fiverr?
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    • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      So then, which one of you is "Koolnerd" on Fiverr?
      Man - all it takes is one I guess. He's even selling the exact sales banner file images that Don Wilson gave away in one of his videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Will give him a go
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    What method do you use for ads?

    CPC
    CPM
    Optimized CPM

    I've been trying this for a few weeks and my cost per click is simply too high. I set up a couple of campaigns using "Clicks to Website" and Facebook was also charging me for page likes, so I was paying something like $1.50 per click. I'm obviously doing something wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author john5171
    try a better variety of methods
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  • Profile picture of the author vanbino
    HI,

    i have been trying teespring and facebook ads for some time and i have had no luck, now i am looking for people that are doing the same and maybe start a skype group and we can help each other out to see if we can make it work, if you are interested contact me here in the wf
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by vanbino View Post

      HI,

      i have been trying teespring and facebook ads for some time and i have had no luck, now i am looking for people that are doing the same and maybe start a skype group and we can help each other out to see if we can make it work, if you are interested contact me here in the wf
      In theory an ok idea however it will never happen.

      Teespring and FB is a fairly recent money making partnership however the niches are fairly limited. Because you are targetting passion interests, it limits the amount of areas you can target. And when someone thinks of an area to target you can bet someone else has thought of it as well.

      And will people be willing to share these targets?? Hell no.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    I've got 4 Patriots hoodies near the top of my newsfeed at the moment. Getting too crowded.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Told you this should be private and a paid for wso....every man and his dog will start doing this if this thread stays live and then we will all be at a loss
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Told you this should be private and a paid for wso....every man and his dog will start doing this if this thread stays live and then we will all be at a loss
      There's plenty of room for everybody. Most people won't be able to do it. They give up too easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Nicoli, don't be like that, Karma is good thing!
    And trust me, you can give ppl the golden recipe and still they fail to take action or give up to soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Haha I know, I am just being selfish

    Yeah seriously, some top people will knock all the smaller guys out. I have a shitload of money to invest in this and want to give it a good crack, although I fear being pushed out. All the ads I had running yesterday for example @ .22c CPC went up to $4! Like I said, I am just being selfish haha
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    I understand your point, but you can take it in another direction. The Idea is great and I'm sure now a few more people are doing it but soon it will die. So keep your money for a later date.
    You can also hit your local target, find other ways to advertise then fb. You never know !
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      I understand your point, but you can take it in another direction. The Idea is great and I'm sure now a few more people are doing it but soon it will die. So keep your money for a later date.
      You can also hit your local target, find other ways to advertise then fb. You never know !
      All good points. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Tbh its all about the niche you target and thanks to FB group and pages there are literally thousands of areas to target. Whether they turn out to be buyers is up to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    I've got one going with 6% CTR and 17 cent website clicks but they are poor. No buyers
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    This is certainly proving to be a challenge but everyday I'm learning something new and having little aha moments.

    I have launched 5 campaigns. Killed 3 early and let 2 get to around $20.

    I have 0 sales on any of these despite decent click through rates and less than 0.40c per website click.

    But I'd be foolish to expect success this early if petelta is 3/10 in profitable campaigns. If anyone would like to Skype P.M me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    I got two sales! Yay!
    Unfortunately I need 18 more in the next 4 days or I get nothing. :'(
    But still... it's an improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    petelta, how have you been doing these past few days? Still owning the game?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      petelta, how have you been doing these past few days? Still owning the game?


      $10k next week is the goal.
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      • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
        Travis...

        It's unfortunate that your pattern of response to people who may question you is to resort to name calling. I did research. Let's look at your claims:

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post



        $10k next week is the goal.
        Let's investigate the WAR EAGLE! shirt that you claim sold 220 shirts for a profit of $1220.05. A profit of only $5.45 per shirt.

        And let's use google to find this item on teespring.
        The search terms would be: teespring.com "This campaign ended on 12/24/13" "WAR EAGLE!" "220 sold towards goal of" .

        This turns up no search result. By the way those terms are very useful for finding teespring campaigns, just don't include the number before "sold towards a goal of".

        So let's do another search on your item without the 220 and we come up with ==> WAR EAGLE! Auburn Wins The Iron Bowl! | Teespring where we see 22 shirts sold.

        So I question your numbers. They don't add up. I'm not questioning if this system works, I think it is a great idea, I wish I had thought of it a long time ago. I'm questioning the numbers you have posted.

        Show us the link to that 220 shirts sold WAR EAGLE! campaign that ended 12/24/13. Simple!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author hpz
          Link is no longer there. After he finished the campaign he either relaunched and changed or not changed the design which is common, or the link expired and was given to someone else. Trust me when I say this, he sold those shirts and made a killing, so instead of looking for scam go and start making t-shirts.
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          • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
            Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

            I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
            Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author hpz
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
              When you relaunch campaign on teespring it's being relaunched on the same url, meaning his old campaign was on the same url as the present one. So the old campaign page is no longer available.
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
              omg would you just go away. Nobody likes your posts, and nobody gives a shit what you think. We are making mega bucks, so leave the thread before you get more egg on your face.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                omg would you just go away. Nobody likes your posts, and nobody gives a shit what you think. We are making mega bucks, so leave the thread before you get more egg on your face.
                So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.
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                • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                  But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                  Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                  1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                  2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                  3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                  4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                  I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                  I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                  So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.

                  Cool story, thanks. But I'll never grow up and never stop telling negative Nancys' like you to shutup. I won't entertain any further discussions worth you, frankly it's not worth my time. Carry on everybody
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                  • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                    I thought about setting up my own t-shirt site. Teespring is nice, but I can't keep a positive ROI on most of my campaigns. I get plenty of sales, but ad costs is just too great. Putting all my designs on a site and using Teespring to get an idea of how people will except them seems like a much better idea. Plus it will be easier to capture email and likes for repeat sales.
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  Bro, I've been living in one of the top hotel/casinos in Las Vegas (costs me $12k per month), have an American Express Centurion, play poker nightly, (google it as I'm sure you have no clue what that is), go to the club errryday, meet amazing women from across the globe...all thanks to 2-4 hours on Teespring.

                  I want everyone in here to be doing the same as this is where I was able to learn to fine-tune my TS approach. I'm sure there are those making way more than me!

                  I have personally messaged Travis and have used info from his replies to make my TS system more efficient. You attack him because he's been the most helpful with what works. So again, leave us and return to your minimum-wage hourly job, where you can bitch and whine about the rest of us who're doing well.

                  And for the rest of you still starting out....read and learn from this thread, see what other people are selling (use Teeview), understand why they have sales in the thousands, and launch your future viral listings. Ask questions, post success stories...pretty much don't be a DicVic

                  Oh, when women ask what it is I do...I do not say "i sell t-shirts." That gets no play. I reply with "I own a marketing consulting firm..."

                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                  But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                  Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                  1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                  2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                  3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                  4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                  I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                  I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                  So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.
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                  • Profile picture of the author hpz
                    Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                    Bro, I've been living in one of the top hotel/casinos in Las Vegas (costs me $12k per month), have an American Express Centurion, play poker nightly, (google it as I'm sure you have no clue what that is), go to the club errryday, meet amazing women from across the globe...all thanks to 2-4 hours on Teespring.

                    I want everyone in here to be doing the same as this is where I was able to learn to fine-tune my TS approach. I'm sure there are those making way more than me!

                    I have personally messaged Travis and have used info from his replies to make my TS system more efficient. You attack him because he's been the most helpful with what works. So again, leave us and return to your minimum-wage hourly job, where you can bitch and whine about the rest of us who're doing well.

                    And for the rest of you still starting out....read and learn from this thread, see what other people are selling (use Teeview), understand why they have sales in the thousands, and launch your future viral listings. Ask questions, post success stories...pretty much don't be a DicVic

                    Oh, when women ask what it is I do...I do not say "i sell t-shirts." That gets no play. I reply with "I own a marketing consulting firm..."
                    You should put this story into sales page, giving the amount of nerds that comes here you'd make a killing
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

              I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

              So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

              And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!

              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
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              • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

                I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

                So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

                And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!
                Haha!

                I'm still waiting for an account manager. Doing between 8 to 15k in profits a week so hopefully won't need to wait too much longer!
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                • Profile picture of the author GeorgeMustang
                  Thanks for post, pretty good approach to niche advertising, simple and easy.
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  I got an invite a couple months ago and was kinda suspicious at first. I googled the account managers name and saw she seemed like a cool chick (cute too), so I replied.

                  Man, I would email customer service and just tell them you're part of TS thread and saw there are others with similar sales volume like you, and just ask for one. Don't ask for mine tho!
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                  • Profile picture of the author jhunry
                    Hello DrewStevens
                    How much should i spend daily in fb ads if i had 100-200k audience in a working campaign?
                    Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                    I got an invite a couple months ago and was kinda suspicious at first. I googled the account managers name and saw she seemed like a cool chick (cute too), so I replied.

                    Man, I would email customer service and just tell them you're part of TS thread and saw there are others with similar sales volume like you, and just ask for one. Don't ask for mine tho!
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                    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                      Depends...if it's a test campaign, $20...if it's a viral campaign, as much as you can.

                      If a TS listing takes off, I'll raise my daily budget from $20 to sometimes $400-500 until my frequency hits around 1.9...then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.

                      I usually don't exceed $500 per day for a single listing. Hope this helps.

                      Originally Posted by jhunry View Post

                      Hello DrewStevens
                      How much should i spend daily in fb ads if i had 100-200k audience in a working campaign?
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                      • Profile picture of the author vallejomedia
                        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                        then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.
                        would you mind clarifying this? What do you do with hootsuite and your FB ad?

                        thanks
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                        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post


                        If a TS listing takes off, I'll raise my daily budget from $20 to sometimes $400-500 until my frequency hits around 1.9...then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.
                        Hellloo Drew!

                        Bestow upon me your wisdoms regarding programming hootsuite to attack the associated FB ad until the listing ends?

                        I'm learning all I can before I throw my money at facebook, scouring these threads/youtube, and since I've never used Facebook ads or the like before, I'm certain there's simple angles I'm missing that could equal major benefits.

                        Me thinks this might lead to one of them.

                        Work smart, not hard. AmIright?

                        **Or if anyone else can answer this, if Drews off the thread.

                        Or better yet, inbox me with some brilliance I'd never figure out on my own.. I'd love you forever and a day.
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                          Originally Posted by Maryjane Burnz View Post

                          Hellloo Drew!

                          Bestow upon me your wisdoms regarding programming hootsuite to attack the associated FB ad until the listing ends?

                          I'm learning all I can before I throw my money at facebook, scouring these threads/youtube, and since I've never used Facebook ads or the like before, I'm certain there's simple angles I'm missing that could equal major benefits.

                          Me thinks this might lead to one of them.

                          Work smart, not hard. AmIright?

                          **Or if anyone else can answer this, if Drews off the thread.

                          Or better yet, inbox me with some brilliance I'd never figure out on my own.. I'd love you forever and a day.
                          Sorry, I've been only on TS and Facebook regarding being online in the past week.. Hootsuite is great for managing social media and I use it to post through my respective fb pages throughout the campaign time, more frequent as time nears expiration. You can sign up for a trial/free account to test it out a bit.

                          And I would require forever and TWO days for this info.

                          Hope this helps..
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                          • Profile picture of the author Rhiannon Beckham
                            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                            Sorry, I've been only on TS and Facebook regarding being online in the past week.. Hootsuite is great for managing social media and I use it to post through my respective fb pages throughout the campaign time, more frequent as time nears expiration. You can sign up for a trial/free account to test it out a bit.

                            And I would require forever and TWO days for this info.

                            Hope this helps..
                            Bah. I think I'm heading into that dangerous area of overthinking things, I've had Hootsuite Pro for many moons.. I was just thinking there was some other angle I was missing that boosts ads.. or something.. I don't even know anymore! haha

                            You still get your forever and a day (+1) though, no worries
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                            I wouldn't have pulled a $9k week w/Teespring etc without the help of others, so it's time to pay it forward.
                            I can make a little room in my life for that. ;)

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              • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

                I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

                So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

                And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!
                I do about 20k a weekt too...why i dun have an account manager!?

                The email response is too low....sometimes it takes me 24 hours to add color!!!!
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                • Profile picture of the author m a t t
                  Hi all
                  first post here... many thanks for sharing your experience!


                  Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                  Petelta

                  This guy has much more than one campaign, a lot of them actually, all of them with over 100 sold and few likes, he can´t have fanpages for names, I've looked and I can't find anything...

                  Any idea how this is being advertised? :confused::confused::confused:
                  About the Donna tee, I guess it's a pun.. Donna means woman in Italian and the text is something girls are used to say to kidding guys.. in Italy as in USA..


                  Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                  Thanks Petelta
                  I already found him on facebook though, he has a fanpage as you said, but he's promoting by post engagement, causing few likes on teespering campaign page, that was a very nice idea, he can have engagement cheaper than a normal ad
                  Can you tell me something more about how promotion by post engagement works? I'm totally green about fb advertising...
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                • Profile picture of the author petelta
                  Originally Posted by anguschkong View Post

                  I do about 20k a weekt too...why i dun have an account manager!?

                  The email response is too low....sometimes it takes me 24 hours to add color!!!!
                  email them and tell them you want an account manager. If you're doing 20k/week, then they already know who you are.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

          Show us the link to that 220 shirts sold WAR EAGLE! campaign that ended 12/24/13. Simple!!!
          You run a successful campaign multiple times. The links are taken down and lumped up into one campaign when you request it. Hence, you only see the original Auburn campaign that I talk about here: http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

          Next, the auburn shirt profits has NOTHING to do with this thread. The profit margin I'm showing you how to do comes from the shirts I started after the auburn success. that was just my first I got working.

          Keep em coming buddy. You seem to be the expert at this... why don't you do something helpful instead of the replies you're providing here.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Awesome, I finally got a good one going today. $36 spent for around $240 profit. I increased the limit to $300 on this one. Let's see how it goes. I haven't gotten a sale in past $13 though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
    It seems like all the good money makers are in the sports team niche...yet seing the amount of shirts in that niche on teespring makes it seem saturated by now, and that only those who have got it to profit can rinse & repeat for other teams etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

      It seems like all the good money makers are in the sports team niche...yet seing the amount of shirts in that niche on teespring makes it seem saturated by now, and that only those who have got it to profit can rinse & repeat for other teams etc...
      Sports teams are only the first niche to get touched. Everyone is launching shirts in this niche because it's hot. There are lots of other niches that are very profitable.
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      • Profile picture of the author partyfavor
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Sports teams are only the first niche to get touched. Everyone is launching shirts in this niche because it's hot. There are lots of other niches that are very profitable.
        Still loving this post. Not sure of I missed this earlier, but are you sticking with right side ads, news feed, both? How are you finding your placement and what is bringing that return. (obvious newsfeed is more expensive).

        Thanks Patelta!
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by partyfavor View Post

          Still loving this post. Not sure of I missed this earlier, but are you sticking with right side ads, news feed, both? How are you finding your placement and what is bringing that return. (obvious newsfeed is more expensive).

          Thanks Patelta!
          I use exclusively newsfeed ads.
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    I see a ton of people using sports teams names but isn't that trademarked and you could get in trouble?
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      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      I see a ton of people using sports teams names but isn't that trademarked and you could get in trouble?
      Yes, a huge group of newcomers that are doing this right now are completely breaking trademarks. They are very liable to be sued too. Don't break trademarks
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Yes, a huge group of newcomers that are doing this right now are completely breaking trademarks. They are very liable to be sued too. Don't break trademarks
        Yeah, I did use a sports team name on one of my campaigns (without any part of the logo). Made $1000 profit yesterday and was on my way to making $3000 profit today but I decided to end the campaign. Felt guilty making that money even though it's a common word. Instead I will use the same thought process on my future campaigns without the infringing part.

        I see a lot of worse cases than mine though, but I would rather avoid a potential suit!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    A lot of people dont realise it tbh

    Anything that has exposure that you are looking to exploit will invariably have a trademark assigned to it. Thats the whole point of doing this lol.

    I seen one that was a good one, Broncos colours, with the words "MANN UP" on it. Very basic, very simple and 99% legal, barring the fact they put the Broncos symbol inside the P.

    Something like that can shut you down.

    Its only a matter of time before this is cracked down on. But who is going to do it?

    Teespring? They put a disclaimer in saying we agree that we own the image we are printing so there happy they have covered themselves and getting the sales.

    FB? They know you are using the trademarked material and are party to it however they wont stop you spending the advertising will they?

    Team you are ripping off? Once they get wind of it and it gets big enough I dont think they will stop it. Instead they will probably find a way to get in on it and undercut us all lol
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      A lot of people dont realise it tbh

      Anything that has exposure that you are looking to exploit will invariably have a trademark assigned to it. Thats the whole point of doing this lol.

      I seen one that was a good one, Broncos colours, with the words "MANN UP" on it. Very basic, very simple and 99% legal, barring the fact they put the Broncos symbol inside the P.

      Something like that can shut you down.

      Its only a matter of time before this is cracked down on. But who is going to do it?

      Teespring? They put a disclaimer in saying we agree that we own the image we are printing so there happy they have covered themselves and getting the sales.

      FB? They know you are using the trademarked material and are party to it however they wont stop you spending the advertising will they?

      Team you are ripping off? Once they get wind of it and it gets big enough I dont think they will stop it. Instead they will probably find a way to get in on it and undercut us all lol
      Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
        Ok :confused::confused::confused:
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          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          Ok :confused::confused::confused:
          I mean I am hardly worried about losing any slice of the pie..
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        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
        I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

        Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

        I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

        All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
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        • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

          Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

          I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

          All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
          In which niches do you prefer to focus on from now on, since the sports thing might get cracked down at some point?
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          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
            I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this strange error. But whenever I get an email from TS saying that my campaign has tipped, I go to look at it and it has 2 to 3 less sales than the tipping point....eg. 48 out of 50. Yet it still shows the amount earned and that it is now sold.

            A bit scary considering the amount of $ I have spent on some of them. I will give them a call later when they open up and see if they can shed any light on the situation. I will update here if it can help anybody else.

            Cheers,

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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

              I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this strange error. But whenever I get an email from TS saying that my campaign has tipped, I go to look at it and it has 2 to 3 less sales than the tipping point....eg. 48 out of 50. Yet it still shows the amount earned and that it is now sold.

              A bit scary considering the amount of $ I have spent on some of them. I will give them a call later when they open up and see if they can shed any light on the situation. I will update here if it can help anybody else.

              Cheers,

              Nic
              I think what happens here is you made the goal of sales (50/50)... but after you tipped, someone came back and asked for a refund. Teespring still honors the sales though. If they refunded before you hit the goal, it wouldn't of mattered.
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          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

          Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

          I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

          All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
          Petelta, I know you don't have time for this so if you (or anyone) can point me to the right direction I will be forever grateful.

          With the short amount of time I had learning how to make dark posts and facebook ad campaign, I'm a little confused about what you said regarding having a Facebook Following (fan page/list/etc). From what I learned, to yield best result, I have to make a separate fan page for each ad campaign and have a good fanpage name that will make people curious (ie. if I was selling pug shirts, I will probably make fbook fan page named "You like Pugs?" and run ads using that page). This method seems to work as I get good response (I'm still yet to get good conversion to sales though...) but these fan pages our expendable..

          What method do you use to grow your fan page? I believe that means you have a central fanpage that you run all your ads on? Also, when I create a dark post, it seems like I can only make one dark post per existing ad set. Is this correct? Am I just supposed to make multiple ad sets to make multiple dark posts?

          I know this is a very novice question so I do apologize for filling up the space on this thread... Any help will be great!
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Hey guys!

    I have 2 campaigns that are around break even after $20 (actually a $1 loss) can anyone give any advice on how they proceed with close to break even campaigns after the initial $20-$30 test. I'm unsure if i should continue to test and what to look for.

    Again, thanks to OP and everyone else in this thread. I'd never made a single sale online before trying this out.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Hey guys!

      I have 2 campaigns that are around break even after $20 (actually a $1 loss) can anyone give any advice on how they proceed with close to break even campaigns after the initial $20-$30 test. I'm unsure if i should continue to test and what to look for.

      Again, thanks to OP and everyone else in this thread. I'd never made a single sale online before trying this out.
      If you have campaigns that are break even after $20 then you've probably only sold 1 tee which is not very good in this market.

      Like I have said to numerous people previously it depends on your niche area and target audience whether its worth taking it a step further.

      The advice given in this sphere is simple.

      You need a passionate audience. People that "love" their team, not just support it. I assume you are on the sports team niche? As most people are, although you are missing out on so much more lol

      You need a large audience of these passionate people but not too large. You can pitch to millions of normal fans or thousands of passionate fans. I know which area I would target.

      Finally your design has to be captivating. If you feel it is then chase after the target audience, if its there.

      Without knowing the ins and outs of your campaign then no one can give you a definitive answer.

      Hope that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        If you have campaigns that are break even after $20 then you've probably only sold 1 tee which is not very good in this market.
        Like the_icon mentions, you are not only looking for campaigns that make a profit for your ad investment, but also sell at a quick rate. With the Teespring system, you have to hit your set goals in a short amount of time.

        If your ad takes 4 days to spend your $20, it's probably not a hot enough campaign for this system.... even if it makes a profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Tbh I started off on ads but moving over to fanpages/groups now. Better longetivity imo
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Some people make it so obvious when infringing.. Just seen a Broncos AFC Champions Tee pop up on my newsfeed.
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      me too! complete blatant logo and naming etc LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Ok so I've found what I think is a very passionate niche.

    Selling hoodies for $19.45 profit
    In my first $14 I sold 2
    I am getting 0.08 cents per website click in one of the split tested campaigns!
    With an 11% CTR
    I now have 339 website clicks but still only 2 sales. (back to break evenish)
    I have a potential reach of 30k

    At this point it is clear that people are interested but obviously the design does not do enough for them. So my question is:

    Would you guys kill this campaign and work on a new design?

    I feel like I'm just a few moves away from having some decent profit margins!

    P.S Can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to tracking? Prosper 202?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Ok so I've found what I think is a very passionate niche.

      Selling hoodies for $19.45 profit
      In my first $14 I sold 2
      I am getting 0.08 cents per website click in one of the split tested campaigns!
      With an 11% CTR
      I now have 339 website clicks but still only 2 sales. (back to break evenish)
      I have a potential reach of 30k

      At this point it is clear that people are interested but obviously the design does not do enough for them. So my question is:

      Would you guys kill this campaign and work on a new design?

      I feel like I'm just a few moves away from having some decent profit margins!

      P.S Can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to tracking? Prosper 202?
      I would let it ride. If you choose that, you'll have to make sure it hits the sales goal though. If you don't, you'll be losing all that investment.

      You'll probably receive sales from those previous clicks that haven't produced as well. A large group of buyers come from friends of people who share, like, and comment on your ad.

      Travis
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        A large group of buyers come from friends of people who share, like, and comment on your ad.

        Travis
        See this is what I have only just clicked on to recently is having an ad is all well and good however you are limiting yourself to that one person that clicks the ad, whereas if you create a fanpage or group and get the like then the friends off that person will see it etc.

        Those friends of the "clicker" may not be fans of the interests you are targetting but they may still buy. At the end of the day its free traffic potentially as opposed to the str8 ads where you are paying per person.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Hey all,

    So my first 3 campaigns flopped and I lost quite a bit of money, learning the ropes so to speak.

    Now however I have had a few winners and have a few running that are going to exceed target.

    How are you guys scaling? Just more FB Ads? Different variations of the Ad? Joining groups and posting on their timelines? Any tips to make some of these winners go viral would be great
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  • Profile picture of the author teamcrunk
    Question,

    are you direct linking to your T-shirt or are u sending them to a fanpage or getting likes?

    Just wondering im looking to get started with Fb ads this week
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

      Question,

      are you direct linking to your T-shirt or are u sending them to a fanpage or getting likes?

      Just wondering im looking to get started with Fb ads this week
      Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
        Excuse my ignorance here but are you talking about your own pages with large fanbase or other pages and posting to their time lines?
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        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
        Thanks for the reply, one last question for your fan page, are u doing impressions or clicks? I guess clicks is likes right?
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        • Profile picture of the author the_icon
          Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

          Thanks for the reply, one last question for your fan page, are u doing impressions or clicks? I guess clicks is likes right?
          You dont do either tbh, always have it optimized for likes. You will see that option once you come to create an Ads campaign. Basically use up your daily budget in likes so just decide how much you want to spend.
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    direct link to shirt
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Creating your own pages around the niche you want to target. Its not hard to create your own and start getting likes. Give them a reason to come back and they will. Give them a reason to share your page and they will. Once they share and the viral effect comes into play then you have a good audience to market to, assuming you have picked a marketable niche.

    Getting into the marketable niches (not just for Teespring) is so much easier on FB than doing it the old fashioned way by creating a blog etc. By all means create a blog and link it back to the page if you want to market more often, that way you are not alienating the FB audience directly.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    aaa ok, I get ya.

    I have a few niche pages both with 100K+ "real" likes and I was using them, although I have created additional pages that fell outside the niches and have had a couple of thousand likes from them. Unfort, unless I bounce traffic through another domain of mine I wont be able to see the true stats, so will just assume there is some coming from the pages. Cheers
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    BTW, TS have been offline for the past 30 min for maint so I have paused all of my ads. If anybody sees this right now, you may wish to do the same
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Theyre back up and running now.

    Though for how long who knows, I cant imagine it will be long before they are taken down for trademark infingement.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      Theyre back up and running now.

      Though for how long who knows, I cant imagine it will be long before they are taken down for trademark infingement.
      TS won't be taken down for the infringement. It will be the individual sellers. They require you to agree you aren't stealing content to protect themselves... plus they just received a huge investment a few days ago to put them into the mainstream of public product creation. They aren't going anywhere lol
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        TS won't be taken down for the infringement. It will be the individual sellers. They require you to agree you aren't stealing content to protect themselves... plus they just received a huge investment a few days ago to put them into the mainstream of public product creation. They aren't going anywhere lol
        I understand and agree but they have a responsibility to ensure they dont infringe trademark regardless of the tick box we have to check. Pretty sure if Nike came calling then they would sit up and take notice lol
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          I understand and agree but they have a responsibility to ensure they dont infringe trademark regardless of the tick box we have to check. Pretty sure if Nike came calling then they would sit up and take notice lol
          I agree... but they aren't liable... so they won't use up their resources much more than they have to to keep out of trouble. The little tick box and actively shutting down infringement they catch is enough to make sure they don't get in trouble.

          Nike isn't anymore aggressive to take this stuff down than most Universities.... especially ones revolved around college football.. they are the most greedy organizations on the planet
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          • Profile picture of the author the_icon
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            I agree... but they aren't liable... so they won't use up their resources much more than they have to to keep out of trouble. The little tick box and actively shutting down infringement they catch is enough to make sure they don't get in trouble.

            Nike isn't anymore aggressive to take this stuff down than most Universities.... especially ones revolved around college football.. they are the most greedy organizations on the planet
            As long as they do crack down on the cheaters, makes it a level playing in that case. Anyone can throw together a borderline infringement hoodie lol

            Re Nike I was only using them as an example. I dont know enough about US uni's to comment on them lol
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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

              As long as they do crack down on the cheaters, makes it a level playing in that case. Anyone can throw together a borderline infringement hoodie lol

              Re Nike I was only using them as an example. I dont know enough about US uni's to comment on them lol
              we are in total agreement lol
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      • Profile picture of the author xpaw01
        Travis, hats off for sharing the details of your success. What are your thoughts about the following strategy?

        1. text only design offers quick go-to-market and no designer fees
        2. wait until final day of the TS campaign to execute ads*
        3. sell hoodies for 39.99
        4. CPC < $1 and a few cents above suggested bid
        5. use LIMITED EDITION in ad copy
        6. newsfeed ads only
        7. hot niche/trend (obvious)

        *could swap #2 out for ad spend should be < 4 days

        Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

        The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
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        • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
          Originally Posted by xpaw01 View Post

          Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

          The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
          Both strategies work. However, if you want to run a newsfeed ad (as opposed to a right hand side ad) I think you need a FB page.
          It depends what your focus is. Conversions might be higher if you send people directly to teespring, but if you send them to your page and they 'like' it, you get to market to them again and again and build your page into a nice little sales tool, possibly saving on ad costs in the long run.
          That's how I understand it, anyway.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by MayaMagpie View Post

            Both strategies work. However, if you want to run a newsfeed ad (as opposed to a right hand side ad) I think you need a FB page.
            It depends what your focus is. Conversions might be higher if you send people directly to teespring, but if you send them to your page and they 'like' it, you get to market to them again and again and build your page into a nice little sales tool, possibly saving on ad costs in the long run.
            That's how I understand it, anyway.
            Maya is right. You need a fan page to do a newsfeed ad. I prefer newsfeed ads over right side ads for a few reasons...

            1 - The reason you need a fan page to post a newsfeed ad is because they need the message to be posted from someone... Instead of it saying Travis Petelle posted... It says FAN PAGE posted... So when this happens people will click to your fan page sometimes and they like the page... boom you got them on the database to promote for the long term.

            2 - Teespring has an automatic retargeting system going. When people click to your teespring sales page, they are pixeled. So when they go back to facebook, they'll start to see sidebar ads for that exact same shirt. This gets a lot of the people who didn't buy at first. I would rather not compete with my own products... so I let Teespring handle the sidebar ads.

            3 - Newsfeed ads are easier at representing exactly what it is you're selling. This is important when you pay per click. YOu really only want those to click to be people who are highly interested in your offer. Sidebar ads don't give enough info sometimes and you'll get a lot of "likers" instead of buyers. This cuts your profit margins... boo!
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by xpaw01 View Post

          Travis, hats off for sharing the details of your success. What are your thoughts about the following strategy?

          1. text only design offers quick go-to-market and no designer fees
          2. wait until final day of the TS campaign to execute ads*
          3. sell hoodies for 39.99
          4. CPC < $1 and a few cents above suggested bid
          5. use LIMITED EDITION in ad copy
          6. newsfeed ads only
          7. hot niche/trend (obvious)

          *could swap #2 out for ad spend should be < 4 days

          Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

          The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
          Sounds pretty solid. I would definitely do more than 1 day campaign. A really hot campaign will usually go off for around 4-5 days. So, you don't want to miss those extra sales. Plus, the last day sales come a lot from people who saw your ad a few days before and realize "oh shit, this is the last day to buy that awesome shirt"... and it grabs them in.

          I do both hoodies and shirts depending on which part of the country I'm promoting too. Florida people get more shirts than Wisconsin people for example.

          The hoodie strategy is great because you can get a higher profit/sale. You price it at $39.99 and you get $15-$20 per sale... where if you sell a $20 shirt, you get $10 profit. 100 sales with $10 profit difference makes an impact.

          I've battled this by bumping up my tshirt sales to $24.99. Most people are doing $19.99... but I've found that if someone is going to pay $20 for a shirt, they'll pay $25.

          The lower the cost per shirt you can get the better... because it gives you more profit per sale. this is why Straight text designs are awesome.

          Try not to worry too much about cost of your ads. Look more at how much it's making.. If you spend $4 per click, but every click ends up buying your $20 shirt, you're still making $6/click profit.

          Good luck man

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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I tested that the other night. Put a blatant copy of a sports logo to see how long it would take to be ripped down. Didn't last two hours before they nuked it. And it's got to be so bloody lucrative for them that they, or similar models will just keep popping up I reckon
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Defo, lets face it theyre arent advertising are they. We are doing that for them, all they need are marketers which are in abundance. Great idea tbh
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Agreed. Brilliant idea and somebody is absolutely killing it!
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    • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
      I just stumbled across a website that seems to be an almost exact copy of teespring, but based in the UK - Fabrily (fabrily.com). I got all excited, because it means that this one might be more suited for all us Europeans... But when I wanted to start a campaign, just to see what kind of prices and products they offer, they wanted me to fill in a form with details about the campaign and said that someone would be in touch.

      So, for now at least, it's a bit too much hassle and not really a marketer's dream. However, maybe something to keep an eye on, who knows?
      They might change their procedure once they get more business. They're still pretty young.

      Until then, good luck with teespring
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by MayaMagpie View Post

        I just stumbled across a website that seems to be an almost exact copy of teespring, but based in the UK - Fabrily (fabrily.com). I got all excited, because it means that this one might be more suited for all us Europeans... But when I wanted to start a campaign, just to see what kind of prices and products they offer, they wanted me to fill in a form with details about the campaign and said that someone would be in touch.

        So, for now at least, it's a bit too much hassle and not really a marketer's dream. However, maybe something to keep an eye on, who knows?
        They might change their procedure once they get more business. They're still pretty young.

        Until then, good luck with teespring
        Tbh thats a safer way to do business for them, keeps them on the right side of trademark infingement. Laws are tougher across here than the USA/Canada.

        Keeps the unscrupulous IM'ers at bay, or helps towards it lol
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        • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          Tbh thats a safer way to do business for them, keeps them on the right side of trademark infingement. Laws are tougher across here than the USA/Canada.

          Keeps the unscrupulous IM'ers at bay, or helps towards it lol
          Yup, although they lose massive business. I do wonder where teespring would be now without all the marketers...
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  • Profile picture of the author anthrova
    I like this post. Will explore more on this approach.
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Can someone please point me in the right direction of tracking my conversions? I have a profitable campaign going with a few different ads... one is getting 0.07 cents per website click and a lot of traffic and others are getting 0.20 cents per website click and not nearlt as much traffic but more targeted with a clear call to action.

    Problem is my Conversion rate is 1% and I don't know where the sales are coming from.
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      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Can someone please point me in the right direction of tracking my conversions? I have a profitable campaign going with a few different ads... one is getting 0.07 cents per website click and a lot of traffic and others are getting 0.20 cents per website click and not nearlt as much traffic but more targeted with a clear call to action.

      Problem is my Conversion rate is 1% and I don't know where the sales are coming from.
      You can use Facebook's Tracking Conversion Pixel. You have to email TS Support and ask them to unlock that option for you. Then, in your Dashboard, you'll see a link for Facebook Conversion Pixel and you just copy/paste in the ID.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZedyDiamond
    This looks interesting, I'm going to test this out soon. Thanks for the thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author NetCram
    So i'm guessing for the best results we should target the hard core fans of just about anything... Sports fans, Sicfi nerds, Car people etc?

    Does anyone have any other ideas? If you don't want to give way your niche i understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
    Are you guys messaging the buyers through teespring? If yes, what is it ?

    Thanks a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author saralievens
    this looks verry nice
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    25 webclicks, 1.06Cpc, 2353 reach, 58 clicks, 2.495 CTR, $26.51


    I'm on mobile and will screen shot when I get home sorry in advance.

    I have a teespring campaign running in a non sports niche, i feel like I should have little competition. Great looking design, seriously dope shirt a lot of people would like.

    I'm getting no conversions but I don't feel like I should judge off just 25 website clicks.

    I'm getting lots of comments and likes on the ad but my Cpc is high at first at .38 - .82 cents and doesn't move till i do optimize bids.

    It gets lots of traffic and CTR rises so I go to lower bid and traffic stops. All this happens in about an hour.

    I need help with budgeting. I have a 50 dollar budget to test niche which gets used so quickly i can't run numbers. 25 clicks at 26 dollars is to much but I've only been testing for a short time.

    Also what's a good conversions to web site clicks average

    I'd love any advice i could get.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      25 webclicks, 1.06Cpc, 2353 reach, 58 clicks, 2.495 CTR, $26.51


      I'm on mobile and will screen shot when I get home sorry in advance.

      I have a teespring campaign running in a non sports niche, i feel like I should have little competition. Great looking design, seriously dope shirt a lot of people would like.

      I'm getting no conversions but I don't feel like I should judge off just 25 website clicks.

      I'm getting lots of comments and likes on the ad but my Cpc is high at first at .38 - .82 cents and doesn't move till i do optimize bids.

      It gets lots of traffic and CTR rises so I go to lower bid and traffic stops. All this happens in about an hour.

      I need help with budgeting. I have a 50 dollar budget to test niche which gets used so quickly i can't run numbers. 25 clicks at 26 dollars is to much but I've only been testing for a short time.

      Also what's a good conversions to web site clicks average

      I'd love any advice i could get.
      you're on the right track. it's hard sometimes to find a winner with only $50 total. I suggest to my students start with $500 avaiable... this is so you can test 5-10 campaigns. Out of these 10, you'll find 1-2 that profit and make up for it.

      Just keep testing out your system and improving. You're getting clicks, now you can improve designs and niche choice.

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      • Profile picture of the author tints
        Thanks for responding.

        How much should be tested on each campaign before deciding to run with it or not.

        Also every niche i go at always have a high cpc and these niches are not being targeted. I just don't understand how to lower my cpc enough to get accurate data to run or not.

        Also how many clicks to site should there be for one conversion?
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by tints View Post

          Thanks for responding.

          How much should be tested on each campaign before deciding to run with it or not.

          Also every niche i go at always have a high cpc and these niches are not being targeted. I just don't understand how to lower my cpc enough to get accurate data to run or not.

          Also how many clicks to site should there be for one conversion?
          High CPC comes with niches that aren't very "social".

          Don't worry about clicks as much as profiting. If you're making more than you're spending, you're doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
    I 'd like to share another niche case is,
    one of my friend in HongKong, who sources the slingshot from China, and sell to worldwide via facebook, sports forum etc making profit very much.

    His site is Welcome to Dankung Sports. Your specific requirements of sports goods are met here. Flashlight, slingshot, fishing tackle, fishing rod, sports apparel, Dankung Sports meets your specific requirements of sports goods!

    It may be different case from petelta's, but I think it's also a case of success of niche market.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
      You could of had people who cancelled their orders. I don't believe you would get an email for that. I know I usually buy the first five shirts then when I get some sales going i just cancel my order.
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        Makes sense...I like the buy 5 to make a design appear "accepted" then canceling later strategy..
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
      You have some people cancelling their order. It happens sometimes... 7 refunds is a big number though. I would bet 1 person bought all those 7 for a group and decided against it later.
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    Thank you, man! You are wonderful!
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Is CPC suggested bid configured in real time to competitors? I'll see suggested bid .50 - 1.25 then periodically through the day it will wildly jump around all the way down to .05 - .18 toward the end of the night bids drop way down to. Should we be trying to ride this wave or does changing your campaign and having delays not match up with the system?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      Is CPC suggested bid configured in real time to competitors? I'll see suggested bid .50 - 1.25 then periodically through the day it will wildly jump around all the way down to .05 - .18 toward the end of the night bids drop way down to. Should we be trying to ride this wave or does changing your campaign and having delays not match up with the system?
      A lot of the time, Facebook will suggest a ridiculious bid to start... something in the $1+ range per click.... but when you create the ad and go check the suggested bid in the dashboard area, it will be much lower to it's normal levels.

      The highest I've ever had to bid for SOCIAL niches is $0.68/click. If you're targeting things like fitness, IM, forex, or any of your typical online niches, then you're going to see high bids required.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

    1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
    2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
    3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
    4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

    I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

    Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

    I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

    I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

    Thanks man
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Oh, on bullet #2, I also add "Common Interest" with whatever subject the TS listings and custom audience focuses on (i.e. poodle audience with poodle interest). Yes, this reduces the estimated target #, but I feel it gives me a stronger market group.

      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

      1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
      2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
      3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
      4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

      I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

      Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

      I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

      I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

      Thanks man
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      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

      1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
      2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
      3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
      4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

      I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

      Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

      I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

      I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

      Thanks man
      If you're truly spending $1-$2k/day, you're way past any free advertising methods. Those are only going to add a small amount of sales... unless you go the route of outsourcing with a team.

      If you want more profit per sale, sell higher priced items. Hoodies at $39.99 are nice because of the large profit margin. I sell my shirts at $24.99 a piece to add anotehr $5 profit on my end each sale.

      You can also start looking outside of Teespring to drop ship shirts. Plus don't forget to grow a fan page and email list from all these niche leads while you sell the shirts.

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        Yes, I try to sell hoodies as much as I can, $39.99 sales price, front print only, 75 goal. This usually brings in $20 profit per sale. 183 is the highest quantity any of my TS listings have had. If I can get daily fb ad costs down by a fraction, that would be amazing!

        One "extra credit" way of making more $$ is to use a rewards-type card to pay your fb ads. For example: American Express, $50k charged = 50k Amex bonus points = $500 Home Depot gift card = sell on eBay for $480ish.

        What would you outsource and are you talking about hiring a couple virtual assistants? How do you capture email addresses?

        Thanks Travis.

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        If you're truly spending $1-$2k/day, you're way past any free advertising methods. Those are only going to add a small amount of sales... unless you go the route of outsourcing with a team.

        If you want more profit per sale, sell higher priced items. Hoodies at $39.99 are nice because of the large profit margin. I sell my shirts at $24.99 a piece to add anotehr $5 profit on my end each sale.

        You can also start looking outside of Teespring to drop ship shirts. Plus don't forget to grow a fan page and email list from all these niche leads while you sell the shirts.

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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Not really man, just don't do as many listings... I've learned that you have to carefully monitor ad performance because since fb became a publicly-traded for-profit company, they have made it MUCH easier to inefficiently expense your ad budget(s). I've been doing fb ads for many years, back when cost-per-impression ads actually saved you way more than CPC. Plus, the more listings you do, the more you have to effectively manage them or you may find your focus only on the high-revenue sales listings while wasting $$ on poor TS listings. Start with 1-2 listings, learn the process, then go from there. Like Travis said, you want to add a bunch daily then filter out poor performers as they're identified.


      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        Unless Travis has some insight on how to get a successful campaign with $100 per TS listing.

        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        Not really man, just don't do as many listings... I've learned that you have to carefully monitor ad performance because since fb became a publicly-traded for-profit company, they have made it MUCH easier to inefficiently expense your ad budget(s). I've been doing fb ads for many years, back when cost-per-impression ads actually saved you way more than CPC. Plus, the more listings you do, the more you have to effectively manage them or you may find your focus only on the high-revenue sales listings while wasting $$ on poor TS listings. Start with 1-2 listings, learn the process, then go from there. Like Travis said, you want to add a bunch daily then filter out poor performers as they're identified.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
      You can have success with $100 for sure. But that means you have to create a winner your first try. In reality, I get a campaign to break even or better 1 of every 5. So, that's $100 in testing alone just to find the one I need to send money in.

      Then once you get a campaign to roll, the only way you're going to make 1000 sales and $10k+ is by spending $3-5k in a 2-3 day period.

      I tell my students they should have at least $500 to start. This way you can test out 10 campaigns and find at least 1 winner. Then you have $300 left to keep the sales rolling. An average winning campaign for me triples the total investment.

      Within the first week, you can double your initial investment if you do it correctly... with winners and losers.

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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    How many clicks do you typically get before deciding if a campaign is going to be a success or not?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      How many clicks do you typically get before deciding if a campaign is going to be a success or not?
      Profit is the only stat I care about. If I'm making $2 for every $1 I've spent, then I let the campaign ride.

      Clicks, click thru rates, and all those other great stats are going to be different for EVERY CAMPAIGN. So there is no number to watch for.
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      • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
        My FB is acting weird.

        My sales goes up, my clicks goes up, page visits goes up. However, total spent stays the same, and price and average cost per click goes down too.

        Another campaign i have the same thing: 10 website clicks, 1 sale $0 spent.

        Any ideas ?
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by alexcutler View Post

          My FB is acting weird.

          My sales goes up, my clicks goes up, page visits goes up. However, total spent stays the same, and price and average cost per click goes down too.

          Another campaign i have the same thing: 10 website clicks, 1 sale $0 spent.

          Any ideas ?
          can take up to a few hours for fb to update man
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          • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
            I can't see how much i spend though. Hopefully they not gonna charge me more than my daily limit, because if i multiply clicks to the average ppc it is way more than that
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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by alexcutler View Post

              I can't see how much i spend though. Hopefully they not gonna charge me more than my daily limit, because if i multiply clicks to the average ppc it is way more than that
              Like mentioned, it just takes a little bit to be up to date sometimes. they will never spend more than the budget set. It's a blocking point in the system.
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              • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                Travis, do you do group page ad boosts or stick to regular ads?

                Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                Like mentioned, it just takes a little bit to be up to date sometimes. they will never spend more than the budget set. It's a blocking point in the system.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    OK all, heads up.

    When a campaign "tips" you will see sometimes see a different amount of shirts sold in the campaign list, than you will if you click the shirts link itself.

    This is because some orders are rejected when it goes to print.

    So, provided a campaign "tips" :

    1) The amount you see in the campaign list is the amount that have been successfully paid for.
    2) The amount you see on the item page itself, is the total amount of orders that had ever been placed, regardless of whether their payment went through at the time of "tipping" when TS charges them all.

    Hope this helps at least somebody. Scared me a little until I got some clarity.

    Cheers,

    Nic
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Dude you are awesome thanks for sharing this helpful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Anyone else having ads pending review problems? going on 2 hours for one ad and its nothing against toss not sports related. Usually my ads get approved within 15 minutes today its taking forever!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    I had to wait a while over weekend, maybe a timing issue or guys on a break lol
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      I had to wait a while over weekend, maybe a timing issue or guys on a break lol
      haha probably a smoke break! i think they check ads until 8pm pacfic time so i still got a couple hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    If I'm bidding a cent under suggested .36 and drop it to like .22 will i stop seeing clicks? It feels like it's only possible to get traffic if you bid is really close to suggested. Thoughts inputs?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I'm just using optimised and get 8c pc on average...then again I am laser targeting people
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    If I use optimized it'll sky rocket my cpc for some reason
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      It might just be me, but I found if I use optimize closer towards the end of the daily billing cycle, fb magically expenses my ad budget, often with higher CPC, than if I were to start in the morning...

      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      If I use optimized it'll sky rocket my cpc for some reason
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        It might just be me, but I found if I use optimize closer towards the end of the daily billing cycle, fb magically expenses my ad budget, often with higher CPC, than if I were to start in the morning...
        When you choose the Optmized bidding option, Facebook "optimizes" your ad to be shown to the maximum daily budget you've set...

        SO... if you set a daily budget of $500 and use optimize, you'll end up spending that last $10-$20 of the $500 right around midnight...

        Same situation if you set your daily budget at $5... Facebook will show your ad for that 24 hour period so that you are spending the last of the $5 right at the end of the day.

        Using this optimized bidding can be a big advantage in certain situations... but all of this stuff is too advanced for this thread

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        • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          When you choose the Optmized bidding option, Facebook "optimizes" your ad to be shown to the maximum daily budget you've set...

          SO... if you set a daily budget of $500 and use optimize, you'll end up spending that last $10-$20 of the $500 right around midnight...

          Same situation if you set your daily budget at $5... Facebook will show your ad for that 24 hour period so that you are spending the last of the $5 right at the end of the day.

          Using this optimized bidding can be a big advantage in certain situations... but all of this stuff is too advanced for this thread

          travis
          How many ad variations do you use for your t-shirts?

          Do you also do the optimized cpm?
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

            How many ad variations do you use for your t-shirts?

            Do you also do the optimized cpm?
            Depends on the available audience angles to say how many total variations I make... but typically i test 3 different looks on each ad uploaded.

            CPC
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            • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
              Originally Posted by petelta View Post

              Depends on the available audience angles to say how many total variations I make... but typically i test 3 different looks on each ad uploaded.

              CPC
              When you use cpc and target 500k people, etc. don't you have to pay as high as $.75 to $1.50 per click?

              Also when you say you test 3 different looks for each ad, are you saying 3 different t-shirt designs per ad? If so, how many total ads do you typically have per design campaign?
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            • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
              Do you send message to your buyers through teespring?

              Whats the sequence of making an email list?
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    I moved on to other things. FB ads are too expensive and the teespring campaigns aren't converting well.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      I moved on to other things. FB ads are too expensive and the teespring campaigns aren't converting well.
      guess it's where you are hitting. I did 4K overnight with only $600 ad spend. there is money there
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      • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        guess it's where you are hitting. I did 4K overnight with only $600 ad spend. there is money there
        Nice job.

        FB charges me $.70 cpc regardless of whether I do optimized cpm or not, and despite all the clicks I receive on the multiple teespring products (very targeted), it's earning 0 sales.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

          Nice job.

          FB charges me $.70 cpc regardless of whether I do optimized cpm or not, and despite all the clicks I receive on the multiple teespring products (very targeted), it's earning 0 sales.
          Competitive niche bro
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

            Competitive niche bro
            How many clicks do you receive and what does FB charge you for cpc?
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              How many clicks do you receive and what does FB charge you for cpc?
              Depends on the campaign but in the thousands and between 5 to 8 cents cpc
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    For anyone who wants to do the teespring + FB, there are certain things to consider.

    For example,

    a) How targeted is really targeted? (50,000 people vs 1 million)
    b) Should you use CPM or CPC?
    c) Should you create ads with the Power Editor or Manually?
    d) Should you go for the optimize CPM feature in the Power Editor?
    e) How many ads should you be creating if you are doing a campaign?
    f) How many clicks should you receive before deciding if a teespring campaign is a failure?
    g) Do you send the clicks directly to the teespring campaign or to a FB page?
    h) Are you targeting the ads via the News Feed?

    Etc.

    There's no simple test. It will cost $500 to $1,000+ to figure out the above depending on your level of expertise with FB ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Also. not able to get any campaign going. Clicks are to expensive and the shirts are not selling.
    What country are you guys targeting.
    For some reason, I don't think people will pay the price of the shirt with the high cost of shipping.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      Also. not able to get any campaign going. Clicks are to expensive and the shirts are not selling.
      What country are you guys targeting.
      For some reason, I don't think people will pay the price of the shirt with the high cost of shipping.
      I'm sticking to USA
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        I'm sticking to USA
        That is good, and your able to get .8cents a click.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          That is good, and your able to get .8cents a click.
          spend about 3 hours laser targeting groups etc
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          • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
            Campaign has worked for others. About 3000 people, 12 cent CPC, 26 cent website CPC. Zero sales. Big giant "CLICK HERE TO BUY" banner on the ad. News feed only.

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  • Profile picture of the author JimmySolis
    What program do you use to create the art for the T-Shirt? Do you use Illustrator or Photoshop? Online most people (on mots websites when I google for info) are using Illustartor. Also what DPI is recommended?

    Jimmy
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by JimmySolis View Post

      What program do you use to create the art for the T-Shirt? Do you use Illustrator or Photoshop? Online most people (on mots websites when I google for info) are using Illustartor. Also what DPI is recommended?

      Jimmy
      Photoshop - 300DPI
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        I'm sticking to USA
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Photoshop - 300DPI
        Quick question, how much is your potential audience, if your targeting tight
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          Quick question, how much is your potential audience, if your targeting tight
          between 5K to 60K depending on niche. I spend a ton of time narrowing it down and could probably be even more anal, but I just go with my gut when I think it is a winner....not enough time in the day!
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

            between 5K to 60K depending on niche. I spend a ton of time narrowing it down and could probably be even more anal, but I just go with my gut when I think it is a winner....not enough time in the day!
            So your campaign targets 60k people and you spend less than $.30 cpc? And you made over $4k after spending $600?

            Are you using optimized cpm?
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            • Profile picture of the author tints
              Everyone niche i try had high cpc. And I'm thinking these niches shouldn't have to much competition. How do you guys get ideas for niches to target. Not asking f or a hand out just some tips on how to brain storm
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              So your campaign targets 60k people and you spend less than $.30 cpc? And you made over $4k after spending $600?

              Are you using optimized cpm?
              I've spent thousands and made thousands more. yep optimised
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Good Job Nicoli, I can't get it lower then .26 cents.
    Maybe I should change Niche,
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      Good Job Nicoli, I can't get it lower then .26 cents.
      Maybe I should change Niche,
      26c is still ok man if you are getting decent conversions. I had some gigs that were like $2 cpc!! quickly moved on with my tail between my legs!
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        26c is still ok man if you are getting decent conversions. I had some gigs that were like $2 cpc!! quickly moved on with my tail between my legs!
        Not sure, I have a 20$ limit, then I close the campaign. I usually get from 1 to 4 sales.
        Wondering if I should increase it and let it run for about 100$
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        • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
          What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

          I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.

          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          Not sure, I have a 20$ limit, then I close the campaign. I usually get from 1 to 4 sales.
          Wondering if I should increase it and let it run for about 100$
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

            I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.
            How many sales do you usually make on a campaign after spending $50?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              8-10 on average..

              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              How many sales do you usually make on a campaign after spending $50?
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              • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                8-10 on average..
                That's a decent amount.

                Do you target 50k people or 1 million?

                And for the ads, do you create 5-10 of them with a picture of your t-shirt with borders, no borders, etc?
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          • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

            I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.
            Thanks for this, very good information. So if you have spend 30$ and only made 1 sale, then you have a negative ROI, so you kill the ad?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              Not just yet. I investigate first to make sure the design alone is the source of poor sales. I'll double-check target market CPC settings, search for similar active designs, etc before I decide to kill a listing. I've also started using Travis' suggestion of buying 5 once you start the listing, then canceling them when sales start coming in.

              Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

              Thanks for this, very good information. So if you have spend 30$ and only made 1 sale, then you have a negative ROI, so you kill the ad?
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Anyone wanna review a campaign of mine?
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  • Profile picture of the author kimlle
    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    What's up guys?

    Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

    Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
    ==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

    Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

    I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

    In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

    I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

    Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

    Take a look at my latest one...



    $260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

    I'll take it!

    This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

    So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

    TARGETING!!!!

    Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

    In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

    I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

    Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

    Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

    That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

    My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

    So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

    I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

    Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

    Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

    Travis
    Thanks for the share! I have a question. Why did you target the audience when you can target global population and have more potential to earn money?
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      Originally Posted by kimlle View Post

      Thanks for the share! I have a question. Why did you target the audience when you can target global population and have more potential to earn money?
      Total viewership is only 1 piece of the formula for earning more money... my more targeted audience shows the design to those people that already are interested... not everyone wants the shirts I'm pushing.
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    i still cant believe this! quite Amazing!
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  • Profile picture of the author montozza
    Awesome work, and more important - explained in great detail. This can be very lucrative. I didn't have a lot of success with FB ads but this gave me some ideas about how to implement new strategies for a greater ROI
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  • Profile picture of the author duplication
    Good post for anyone starting a Facebook Business
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  • Profile picture of the author tints


    I made two converisions with a return of 18.00 so right now im just above break even. I'm getting alot of clicks and website clicks but not converting as much as i want it to.

    I noticed all of these clicks have come from mobile devices. i found out when i ran a report less, then 100 reach on desktop news feed.

    If i switch over to desktop only the CPC suggested bid will increase and most likely wont get shown as much unless i take a risk and bump up my cpc costs.

    Should i switch over and pay the higher cost for desktop only or let this ride out how its going now?

    anytype of advice would be helpful thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author blessbajoy
    Is it real?
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by blessbajoy View Post

      Is it real?

      is what real?
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

    I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

    So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

    Website clicks - 66
    CPWC - $0.25
    Advert Reach - 3k
    Total clicks - 130
    CTR - 4.5%

    Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

    Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

    Thanks again everyone!
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

      I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

      So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

      Website clicks - 66
      CPWC - $0.25
      Advert Reach - 3k
      Total clicks - 130
      CTR - 4.5%

      Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

      Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

      Thanks again everyone!
      oCPM would most likely get you the most impressions but it would cost you more probaly
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      • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
        Originally Posted by tints View Post

        oCPM would most likely get you the most impressions but it would cost you more probaly
        I mustn't be doing oCPM right because I end up paying way higher than CPC
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

      I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

      So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

      Website clicks - 66
      CPWC - $0.25
      Advert Reach - 3k
      Total clicks - 130
      CTR - 4.5%

      Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

      Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

      Thanks again everyone!
      How are you getting such a high CTR?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

        How are you getting such a high CTR?
        LOL, that's not high. I am getting between 15 to 20 %
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        • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
          Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

          LOL, that's not high. I am getting between 15 to 20 %
          I've tested literally dozens of ads, and the best one is .03%, which is super low.
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          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
            Some ass copied my entire sales pitch and even linked the "click to buy now" image to one of my servers. I've changed the image so if it is one of you guys, you should probably stop linking to me as your T-Shirt pages look pretty dodgy right now

            Oh yeah, ask permission to link next time if you are reading this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
            Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

            I've tested literally dozens of ads, and the best one is .03%, which is super low.
            You must be referring to the right hand side ads.
            It's rare that I get LESS THAN a 4% rate on the newsfeed ads.
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            • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
              Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

              You must be referring to the right hand side ads.
              It's rare that I get LESS THAN a 4% rate on the newsfeed ads.
              Yes, I was referring to the right hand side ads, which is why I was surprised that some were getting really high CTR, but now it makes sense.
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            • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
              Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

              You must be referring to the right hand side ads.
              It's rare that I get LESS THAN a 4% rate on the newsfeed ads.
              My best so far is just over 3% paying roughly $0.23/click

              I'm new to FB advertising so are there any specific tricks to getting better ROI or is it down to too many factors like:

              - saturation
              - competition
              - target audience
              - ad design
              - ad copy

              lol

              Again, being new to this means you have nothing to compare. Maybe my campaign target (300,000 or so) is too big?

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
                Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

                My best so far is just over 3% paying roughly $0.23/click

                I'm new to FB advertising so are there any specific tricks to getting better ROI or is it down to too many factors like:

                - saturation
                - competition
                - target audience
                - ad design
                - ad copy

                lol

                Again, being new to this means you have nothing to compare. Maybe my campaign target (300,000 or so) is too big?

                Thanks
                I was told you should keep it under 75,000 for the targeting, use optimized cpm, target news feed desktop + mobile, and create your ad with the "power editor".

                Everything else is just trial and error.
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        • Profile picture of the author sackanub
          Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

          LOL, that's not high. I am getting between 15 to 20 %
          Awesome, are you using any scraping tools for it?

          I purchased one but then I realized it's against FB TOS and I decided to toss it and get a refund. Never got the chance to use it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
            How many here are using a custom audience by scraping UID's for their targeted market?
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      well I didn't think this would be as lucrative as it is turning out to be, but as I promised you OP, I am going to give you $1000. pm me your deets and I will arrange shortly
      Do you only do newsfeed on desktops as well with one ad variation?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      well I didn't think this would be as lucrative as it is turning out to be, but as I promised you OP, I am going to give you $1000. pm me your deets and I will arrange shortly
      Great to hear you're having so much success as well. It's easy once you figure it out. we should get on a private chat and brainstorm our systems.

      travis.petelle (skype)

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      • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
        How many fanpages do you people have? I find creating new ones each time I come up with a new idea to be a pain in the ass. Maintaining them is even worse.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by 19rl75 View Post

          How many fanpages do you people have? I find creating new ones each time I come up with a new idea to be a pain in the ass. Maintaining them is even worse.
          A ton... lol. i have around 60 active pages right now... all of which are outsourced. Recently, I've been keeping my shirts based around a few different niches instead of all over the place... this way, I'm only growing the 1 fan page per niche I want to be in instead of growing 20 fan pages a day with every campaign.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Great to hear you're having so much success as well. It's easy once you figure it out. we should get on a private chat and brainstorm our systems.

        travis.petelle (skype)

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        I'd like to join. I have a technique for Teespring I'm willing to share in a private group, as well as some brainstorming...
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    newsfeed only with one ad and then a second ad 48 hours before reminding them of the time limit
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Richjerk, I can't send you any more message man as the limit for a newbie like me is 5 per hour haha!

    So to answer your questions:

    1) Yep Bingo

    2) $20 to $30 and seeing whether the hype is good and I'm in the black

    3) Only 1 and make SURE mobile too (it's default)

    4) You can't add the urls like that, look for similar group names

    5) I don't care the number, as long as its over 8000 and laser targeted

    Trust these help a bit man
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    like 25 active ones and driving me friggin insane so I outsourced to somebody
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    So should i run desktop only? Or mobile and desktop
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  • Profile picture of the author carlamae
    No scrapers here...I use the FB graph search...you can drill down to the most targeted audience you'd ever imagine!
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Not scraping but there are clearly people scraping and copying my entire sales script on tspring and then outselling me. Makes me wonder whether I should join them, although I assume they would eventually get banned....but then again, how would FB even know their custom audiences are scraped if they used different accounts/IP/machine to scrape the data in the first place...
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Not scraping but there are clearly people scraping and copying my entire sales script on tspring and then outselling me. Makes me wonder whether I should join them, although I assume they would eventually get banned....but then again, how would FB even know their custom audiences are scraped if they used different accounts/IP/machine to scrape the data in the first place...
      If they copy your designs or use word-by-word, you can report them on teespring.

      When you get a chance, please answer the quick questions I sent on pm.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

        If they copy your designs or use word-by-word, you can report them on teespring.

        When you get a chance, please answer the quick questions I sent on pm.
        replied, sorry I lost all my inbox for some reason and lucky I had history of link
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

        If they copy your designs or use word-by-word, you can report them on teespring.

        When you get a chance, please answer the quick questions I sent on pm.
        Also I told teespring, they couldn't do much. Can't copyright a phrase...she did however, remove the image that the loser was hotlinking back to one of my servers and in the process completely destroyed the HTML formatting of his sales pitches on tspring hahaha, I...."takes off sunglasses"....said nothing
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

          Also I told teespring, they couldn't do much. Can't copyright a phrase...she did however, remove the image that the loser was hotlinking back to one of my servers and in the process completely destroyed the HTML formatting of his sales pitches on tspring hahaha, I...."takes off sunglasses"....said nothing
          You're wasting your time fighting this... by the time you were trying to get the guy's image taken down, 10 more copy cats started using your sales copy..

          This is something you're going to come across in every marketplace when you start making waves... especially when it's the new hot thing.

          This one happens to have a bunch of websites that display the hot winners of the week... so EVERYONE and their mother can see your successful campaigns... Of course, they are going to copy it.

          Plus, you have no rights over your copy or your design without trademarking it... so what they do isn't illegal... that's why Teespring won't do anything about it.
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          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            You're wasting your time fighting this... by the time you were trying to get the guy's image taken down, 10 more copy cats started using your sales copy..

            This is something you're going to come across in every marketplace when you start making waves... especially when it's the new hot thing.

            This one happens to have a bunch of websites that display the hot winners of the week... so EVERYONE and their mother can see your successful campaigns... Of course, they are going to copy it.

            Plus, you have no rights over your copy or your design without trademarking it... so what they do isn't illegal... that's why Teespring won't do anything about it.
            Yeah I don't have a problem with that, my problem was the jerk was using my images and hotlinking back to my server (1000s of hits per day)

            Now while I could have simply changed the image to David Hasslehoff in his undies, I played fair to Teespring and just asked them to remove the link.

            BTW, send me your deets again on PM, my inbox got nuked for some reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Does anyone know how to offer multiple apparel colors within TS? I've seen a few current listings with it which seem to show a much increase sales number by having the option available.
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    • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Does anyone know how to offer multiple apparel colors within TS? I've seen a few current listings with it which seem to show a much increase sales number by having the option available.
      I was wondering the same thing...I've also seen the listings with multiple colors available, but not sure how to set that up. I'm guessing that maybe it's something you have to request from TeeSpring??
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      • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
        Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

        I was wondering the same thing...I've also seen the listings with multiple colors available, but not sure how to set that up. I'm guessing that maybe it's something you have to request from TeeSpring??
        Email support, you can have up to 5 styles including colours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Awesomeinside
    WOW! Great post! Thanks for sharing!

    Good luck with the facebook fan page!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bimbyris
    Nice Job.

    I have one question about outsourcing the design. How specific are your instructions to the designer ? Do you state very clearly what you want and he/she just have to produce it or do you explain him/her what your niche is passionate about and let the designer to come up with an idea ? In other words, how much room do you leave for the designer to improvise?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Bimbyris View Post

      Nice Job.

      I have one question about outsourcing the design. How specific are your instructions to the designer ? Do you state very clearly what you want and he/she just have to produce it or do you explain him/her what your niche is passionate about and let the designer to come up with an idea ? In other words, how much room do you leave for the designer to improvise?
      Depends on teh designer I'm talking to. I have a graphic designer on my in house team which I trust very much when it comes to creative ability. I would simply tell him a niche and he'll pop out designs.

      If I'm outsourcing on Fiverr, I would be a little more detailed in what I want in design.

      Once you work with a designer for a while, you'll know their capabilities.
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  • Profile picture of the author redondo
    i keep wondering one thing.

    If your daily budget is $20 on Ads. How many sells do you usually do on that budget ?

    Yesterday i did 6-7 sales on 20$ budget with CTR over 10%. Should i increase the budget or stay on $20?

    By the way, this thread helps me a lot in teespringing, thanks guys!
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    • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      i keep wondering one thing.

      If your daily budget is $20 on Ads. How many sells do you usually do on that budget ?

      Yesterday i did 6-7 sales on 20$ budget with CTR over 10%. Should i increase the budget or stay on $20?

      By the way, this thread helps me a lot in teespringing, thanks guys!
      Don't get me wrong but it's hard to belive that you did 6-7 sales on $20 budget.
      Maybe you should check your cost on the facebook.

      And if you did that, you definitly increase your budget.
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      • Profile picture of the author redondo
        No man, im serious, in 24 hours i got 6-7 sales on $20 budget. paying 0.14 per click
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by AdWordsUzmani View Post

        Don't get me wrong but it's hard to belive that you did 6-7 sales on $20 budget.
        Maybe you should check your cost on the facebook.

        And if you did that, you definitly increase your budget.
        That's a normal amount of sales for a good converting campaign really. If you're making 5+ sales from the first $20, you have a winner. Bump up your daily budget to $500+ on that ad.

        If you've made 2-4 sales in the first $20, then you're still in the profit zone, but watch them closely. It could of just been 1 buyer buying a few.
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Depends on what your ad frequency is.. If it's still 1.0, even 1.1; I would increase the budget as high as I could until that number started to increase...

      And yes, 6-7 sales on $20 is uncommon for me, so if there's any magical secret or your friends with Mark Z, please let us know.

      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      i keep wondering one thing.

      If your daily budget is $20 on Ads. How many sells do you usually do on that budget ?

      Yesterday i did 6-7 sales on 20$ budget with CTR over 10%. Should i increase the budget or stay on $20?

      By the way, this thread helps me a lot in teespringing, thanks guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author redondo
    Today 4 sales and have $13 remaining of $20 daily budget!

    Here are the stats!Attachment 19759

    No secrets, just custom audience and a killing design!

    UPDATE: meanwhile i wrote this reply i got 2 more sales. so 6 sales today and $13 left. After all money i throwed away at this its starting to show me some results. i guess you learn from your misstakes.
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      Today 4 sales and have $13 remaining of $20 daily budget!

      Here are the stats!Attachment 19759

      No secrets, just custom audience and a killing design!

      UPDATE: meanwhile i wrote this reply i got 2 more sales. so 6 sales today and $13 left. After all money i throwed away at this its starting to show me some results. i guess you learn from your misstakes.
      What's the total number of people in your audience that you are targeting?
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Frequency is 1.4 tho...time to add to the audience or you're wasting $$...

      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      Today 4 sales and have $13 remaining of $20 daily budget!

      Here are the stats!Attachment 19759

      No secrets, just custom audience and a killing design!

      UPDATE: meanwhile i wrote this reply i got 2 more sales. so 6 sales today and $13 left. After all money i throwed away at this its starting to show me some results. i guess you learn from your misstakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author FragSK
    Thx for infos, If I want to use newfeed add I must create a fanpage right ? But Why people will like my page if I'm using direct link to TS ? And fan page should be about my niche or can be fake stuff ?

    And we can post directly on groups or fanpages (free ads) buy +1 on comment to get top comments right ? But my fb account will be disabled to do mass spam add on fb groups ?

    Can we customize the price ? I want to use Euros for my first campaign !
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by FragSK View Post

      Thx for infos, If I want to use newfeed add I must create a fanpage right ? But Why people will like my page if I'm using direct link to TS ? And fan page should be about my niche or can be fake stuff ?

      And we can post directly on groups or fanpages (free ads) buy +1 on comment to get top comments right ? But my fb account will be disabled to do mass spam add on fb groups ?

      Can we customize the price ? I want to use Euros for my first campaign !
      1) Yes, you need to create a fan page. People will like it and some will click, you can't make them all click. It's a numbers game. Fan page should be your niche.

      2) No, I would not do any of that. You have to simply create a page yourself and then do FB ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMaleRN
    Interesting. You had my curiosity. But now you have my attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Too many Seahawks Super Bowl Champs tees on my timeline.
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  • Profile picture of the author redondo
    Targeting 36000
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Hey redondo,

    Firstly, congrats in sticking it out and especially finding a winner where you're getting insane conversions and of course ROI! Great job and it's inspiring to hear about it!

    Quick question

    You mention "custom audience" so I'm assuming you (or someone you know) is scraping data (fb graph) to gather UIDs. Then, you go and create a custom audience campaign and upload those UIDs. Is that right? If so, how many UIDs are you scraping and how many are you uploading per campaign/ad?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author redondo
      Thanks Promo_guy!

      No in this case i havent use any FB scraper, i used Social Lead Freak.
      And yes i create my ad and choose the target to my custom audience, which in this case is 34000. from the whole world and female/male from 16 and older.

      I found that the larger your audience is the more cost per click it is, so i think that if you can scale down the audience around maybe MAX 80-90k then youre good as long as the audience is passionate about the product your giving to them!

      Peace
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  • Profile picture of the author FragSK
    Can you tell me if you get sales from Inernational ? Or USA only ? Did u get sales from Europe ? ( cause shipping = 10 USD cost ) thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by FragSK View Post

      Can you tell me if you get sales from Inernational ? Or USA only ? Did u get sales from Europe ? ( cause shipping = 10 USD cost ) thanks
      I promote teespring only to US because the shipping costs hurts your conversions overseas.
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  • Profile picture of the author redondo
    okey so i stepped up my campaign today with a $100 budget. Started out quiet well witho 2 sales in the first 10 bucks spent. now the CPC has got up from 0.14 to 0.23 and no conversion at all. and spent $35 so far.
    Had a CTR on 9.5% now its 8 %. Dont know why ? but havent changed anything at all in my ad.

    One thought!: why use conversion pixel? How does it work?
    Am i getting it right that uou only get charged for every sale you make?
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    • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
      Time of day?


      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      okey so i stepped up my campaign today with a $100 budget. Started out quiet well witho 2 sales in the first 10 bucks spent. now the CPC has got up from 0.14 to 0.23 and no conversion at all. and spent $35 so far.
      Had a CTR on 9.5% now its 8 %. Dont know why ? but havent changed anything at all in my ad.

      One thought!: why use conversion pixel? How does it work?
      Am i getting it right that uou only get charged for every sale you make?
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  • Profile picture of the author kimlle
    I do not know why but, I keep getting 0 for 3 days.
    I am using CPC, and the rate is higher than suggested bid.
    It shows that the potential buyers are like around 16 millions but still dont get even 1.
    Please help me guys ;(
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    • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
      I think facebook suggested bid is not working very well. If you give $2 for cpc facebook will show your ad. Wait for 50-60 click and look what is the avg. cpc.
      And you should narrow your audience. 16M is too big.

      Originally Posted by kimlle View Post

      I do not know why but, I keep getting 0 for 3 days.
      I am using CPC, and the rate is higher than suggested bid.
      It shows that the potential buyers are like around 16 millions but still dont get even 1.
      Please help me guys ;(
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      • Profile picture of the author kimlle
        Originally Posted by AdWordsUzmani View Post

        I think facebook suggested bid is not working very well. If you give $2 for cpc facebook will show your ad. Wait for 50-60 click and look what is the avg. cpc.
        And you should narrow your audience. 16M is too big.
        $2 per cpc? According to you, thats like $100 ... I dont even know I can pay that much of money to do it..;;; Oh hmm i think it is because of my targetting. If 16m is pretty big, that means there are too many advertisers that offer higher prices than I offer :/ Have you succeeded this method o.o?
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  • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
    I succeeded to show my ads don't worry it won't charge $2. It would be arround $0.5 but you can see the avg. cpc. And Big audience = low cost = bad conversion, but facebook can't decide what to do your audince
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    • Profile picture of the author kimlle
      Originally Posted by AdWordsUzmani View Post

      I succeeded to show my ads don't worry it won't charge $2. It would be arround $0.5 but you can see the avg. cpc. And Big audience = low cost = bad conversion, but facebook can't decide what to do your audince
      Sigh. I have created new one that has about 240k but lets see how many people were clicking till tmr :/
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        So the fb account I use for data mining via Social Lead Freak got suspended.. I use up to 4 SLF sessions at a time (on 4 separate computers). Anyone know why or ever have this happen to them? I suspect fb isn't happy for the multiple sessions mining for different demographics at the same time..
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        • Profile picture of the author sackanub
          Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

          So the fb account I use for data mining via Social Lead Freak got suspended.. I use up to 4 SLF sessions at a time (on 4 separate computers). Anyone know why or ever have this happen to them? I suspect fb isn't happy for the multiple sessions mining for different demographics at the same time..
          Suspended forever? And how long have you been using FB Ads for and usually how much do you spend per day?
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          • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
            The account I use for fb data mining is different than my personal one/one I use for ads. I suspect it was because of all the multi-session mining activity they put a 24-hr ban on it. I guess I'll know more when I log back in tonight.

            Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

            Suspended forever? And how long have you been using FB Ads for and usually how much do you spend per day?
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        • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
          Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

          So the fb account I use for data mining via Social Lead Freak got suspended.. I use up to 4 SLF sessions at a time (on 4 separate computers). Anyone know why or ever have this happen to them? I suspect fb isn't happy for the multiple sessions mining for different demographics at the same time..
          While I find FB "scraping" policy arguably a bit vague, I wonder if your account got suspended purely for scraping. I know the developer of SLF says "it's not scraping" but technically it is.

          Is that how you guys are getting teespring invites to being top sellers, scraping data and creating custom audience ads?

          Don't get me wrong, this seems like the perfect way to target, gathering UIDs of people who fit your criteria, totally get that. But, the fact you're using a "different" account shows you must not trust the software and/or the practice.

          FB's policy, from what I understand, is you must have permission from those people whose UIDs you're grabbing. I doubt you have that. So, are most of you guys who use this method just saying "screw it, if I get banned I get banned" or what?

          I'd love to scrape then create custom audiences but not sure I want to create new accounts, use different/proxy IPs, etc.

          I doubt those of you scraping will reply to this post but you never know. Would love to learn more
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

            While I find FB "scraping" policy arguably a bit vague, I wonder if your account got suspended purely for scraping. I know the developer of SLF says "it's not scraping" but technically it is.

            Is that how you guys are getting teespring invites to being top sellers, scraping data and creating custom audience ads?

            Don't get me wrong, this seems like the perfect way to target, gathering UIDs of people who fit your criteria, totally get that. But, the fact you're using a "different" account shows you must not trust the software and/or the practice.

            FB's policy, from what I understand, is you must have permission from those people whose UIDs you're grabbing. I doubt you have that. So, are most of you guys who use this method just saying "screw it, if I get banned I get banned" or what?

            I'd love to scrape then create custom audiences but not sure I want to create new accounts, use different/proxy IPs, etc.

            I doubt those of you scraping will reply to this post but you never know. Would love to learn more
            I would highly doubt he got suspended for scraping. Facebook's TOS does say that scraping is not legal unless you get permission from the peeps your scraping from... but Facebook's system currently isn't set up to allow that to happen.

            With their current system, the only way to use custom audiences is to break their TOS... so they've created a system that can only be used if you break their rules.

            Plus, it's something they can't track and check for... so I doubt you got banned for scraping.

            Here are other reasons you probably got suspended for...

            - You posted too much to private groups and were marked as a spammer
            - They discovered you are using a fake account (they would only suspend the fake account though)
            - You're a jerk on Facebook and people mark your posts spam

            I scrape every day and have zero problems... Every other top marketer I know who scrapes has had zero problems as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
              Originally Posted by petelta View Post


              I scrape every day and have zero problems...
              What program(s) do you use?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              Yeah man, you're right, it was a random suspension, but I suspect it may have been triggered from the private group UID extraction method. They never gave a specific cause after my detention was over. After the 24-hr mark I had to validate I was a real person via cell phone text. I used a burner I bought for my eBay stealth account. After entering the code they sent, I was back up and running. It's not necessarily a "fake" account as I made it for an org 4 years ago. I just didn't want to be using my personal fb in the event something like this occurred.

              I'm back data mining like a boss, haha.

              Originally Posted by petelta View Post

              I would highly doubt he got suspended for scraping. Facebook's TOS does say that scraping is not legal unless you get permission from the peeps your scraping from... but Facebook's system currently isn't set up to allow that to happen.

              With their current system, the only way to use custom audiences is to break their TOS... so they've created a system that can only be used if you break their rules.

              Plus, it's something they can't track and check for... so I doubt you got banned for scraping.

              Here are other reasons you probably got suspended for...

              - You posted too much to private groups and were marked as a spammer
              - They discovered you are using a fake account (they would only suspend the fake account though)
              - You're a jerk on Facebook and people mark your posts spam

              I scrape every day and have zero problems... Every other top marketer I know who scrapes has had zero problems as well.
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    Do you guys use any other marketing medium other than fb? Like mass email through a bulk email online service?
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    Can you tell me age range that converts better ?
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    Has anyone else gotten an e-mail about their Teespring accounts getting upgraded for being one of their top sellers?
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      I just got that email today, being on their VIP program with access to beta analytics. I don't know about giving them my physical address, I'll give them my PO box as the analytics part is something I've been wanting to see since starting TS.

      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Has anyone else gotten an e-mail about their Teespring accounts getting upgraded for being one of their top sellers?
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  • Profile picture of the author WilhelmR
    I love when the skeptics hate a method just because it's simple. But it's exactly that what makes this extremely effective, no need for "marketing formulas", social apps, squeeze pages, messing around with affiliates, etc.

    Just keep an eye on the trends, pump out designs, promote, measure, and repeat.

    It's not an evergreen method, but I'll give it another decade until it becomes irrelevant.
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      Originally Posted by WilhelmR View Post

      I love when the skeptics hate a method just because it's simple. But it's exactly that what makes this extremely effective, no need for "marketing formulas", social apps, squeeze pages, messing around with affiliates, etc.

      Just keep an eye on the trends, pump out designs, promote, measure, and repeat.

      It's not an evergreen method, but I'll give it another decade until it becomes irrelevant.
      What's a good place (other then google trends) to find good trends aplicable to teespring?
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

        What's a good place (other then google trends) to find good trends aplicable to teespring?
        Just pay attention to the news and what's happening around you. Buzz comes from media covering your story... so talk about what every is about to talk about.

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    Can anybody please help me setting up targeting ;(...?
    I have tried this for a week and i got 2 clicks till now..;;
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  • Profile picture of the author bluechipunl
    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    What's up guys?

    Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

    Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
    ==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

    Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

    I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

    In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

    I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

    Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

    Take a look at my latest one...



    $260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

    I'll take it!

    This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

    So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

    TARGETING!!!!

    Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

    In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

    I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

    Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

    Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

    That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

    My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

    So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

    I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

    Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

    Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

    Travis

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  • Profile picture of the author cpa-money
    i never made money with teespring. i dont think people on fb are up to buy stuff, just to chat with their friends
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Btw Drew, did you get your account back? If so, did FB say why they suspended it?
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Ya, got it back last night.. They didn't give a reason why. Had it been something like spamming, being a troll, etc, they would have specified. They didn't, acct works, I don't ask any ?s
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      Btw Drew, did you get your account back? If so, did FB say why they suspended it?
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Thanks Travis

    A few questions then, because I KNOW top earners are scraping:

    1) Do you use a fake or "additional" account to scrape then?
    2) Do you use your personal account to create these custom audience ads?
    3) Do you mind sharing which tool(s) you use to scrape (please PM me if you don't want to say on this thread)
    4) Do you know of any limits of a) how many UIDs you scrape per day or b) how many you add to any particular custom audience campaign?

    The reason I ask these questions is because you hear of a lot of people making big money per week after only a 7-10 of following a thread like this and I've come to the conclusion that big earners are either:

    A) Marketing to their already large fan pages (10,000+ likes, actively talked about, etc.)
    B) They're scraping a ton (like you said you do) and creating custom audience ads
    C) Most likely infringing on copyright/trademark taking advantage of sports (pro and college), or using people's photos like the Cambodia leader example on another thread, etc.

    I'm sure I'm simplifying a little cause I bet some folks are simply doing last name or dog or other niches and doing well without A-C above but most of the big hitters are doing one of the 3 just mentioned.

    Agree?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      1) Do you use a fake or "additional" account to scrape then?
      2) Do you use your personal account to create these custom audience ads?
      3) Do you mind sharing which tool(s) you use to scrape (please PM me if you don't want to say on this thread)
      4) Do you know of any limits of a) how many UIDs you scrape per day or b) how many you add to any particular custom audience campaign?


      A) Marketing to their already large fan pages (10,000+ likes, actively talked about, etc.)
      B) They're scraping a ton (like you said you do) and creating custom audience ads
      C) Most likely infringing on copyright/trademark taking advantage of sports (pro and college), or using people's photos like the Cambodia leader example on another thread, etc.
      1 & 2 - no, i use my account for everything. No fake accounts. I use 2 employee accounts for ads as well so that I can spend more per day across teh board. Fake accounts get you closed down... it's clearly against the rules.

      3 - I use Datareach to scrape groups and status updates for my target audience.. I use Facebook Graph Scraper for searching unique graph search queries

      4 - If you put more than 50k UIDs in a custom audience... it's not very custom anymore... my custom audiences are usually around 8-10k people.

      Scraping only helps when you're choosing a unique angle to promote too. So, don't think it's going to change your success rate...

      75% of my ads don't use custom audiences... they just use simple interests.

      The major successes in this model are established in facebook marketing and have large fan pages already. They can continue to sell hundreds of shirts every week because they already have the fans to promote to.

      The majority of newcomers having success are breaking the law with trademark infringement for sure.

      The key to this is to build a long term following that you can continue to promote too.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Be careful guys. One of my designs was taken down today due to trademark/copyright violation and I lost a whole lot of money.

    I didn't use any logos or team name. I think it was because of using team colors.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Be careful guys. One of my designs was taken down today due to trademark/copyright violation and I lost a whole lot of money.

      I didn't use any logos or team name. I think it was because of using team colors.
      You can't use team colors, names, or mascots. That's breaking the law. You're lucky you didn't lose a lot more with a lawsuit.
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      • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        You can't use team colors, names, or mascots. That's breaking the law. You're lucky you didn't lose a lot more with a lawsuit.
        I don't plan on running any sports themed campaigns, but that is good to know. I didn't realize colors would be a problem...didn't think colors could be protected like that (such as red and black = chicago bulls).
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

          I don't plan on running any sports themed campaigns, but that is good to know. I didn't realize colors would be a problem...didn't think colors could be protected like that (such as red and black = chicago bulls).
          Trademark infringement starts when you're trying to capitalize from another business or brands marketing efforts... so when you use the same colors as a sports team and try and connect with the readers because of that already known association, that's infringement.
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    Great techniques! i cant wait to try this
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    forget this reply
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    • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
      Hello Guys,

      Since i have saw this thread i think i had to take action

      So i have read a couple of threads here and watched a few YT vids about it.

      And picked a very hot niche.

      The first day (yesterday everning).

      I setup the campaign with the following specs:

      Daily Budget $15
      Interest about 10 highly targeted to the niche.
      That gave an audience of 4.8M

      Well if i have used CPC the bids were averaging 60 cents per click , so i prefered to use OCPM and in 5-10 minutes all the budget was spent
      with the following results:

      47 clicks
      27 clicks to website (where 26 gave me 25 FB likes)

      the CTR increased to 3.2%

      but no shirts sold.

      Now i have the following totals:


      Ad reach 1723
      Freq. 1.0
      Clicks: 66
      Results: 34 website clicks
      CTR: 3.81%
      cost: 0.63 per website click
      Average Price: 12.48 Optimized CPM
      Total spent: $21.56
      used only neews feeds

      Social Results:

      Teespring page:

      39 FB likes

      Facebook Page:

      23 FB Likes


      So what i think about this results:

      Maybe the audience is too big, but eventhough they are highly targeted, since the budget is small i should reduce the audience to 500k? what do you think about it?

      Secondly:

      even with a lousy result in terms of sales i watch a great social interest or else i would not have any likes and that´s why i don´t know very well to stop the campaign or tweak it.

      So i would like if possible some suggestions since you guys are working on this for sometime now.

      For last but not least:

      Relatively to Optimized CPM vs CPC what do you recommend when you start the campaign? and after 1 day do you switch to another method?

      Because i watch many people with low CPC but mine is not that great, for example last night after the budget has been exhausted i have edited the campaign and the recomended CPC was 0.04 - 0.08 and i offered 0.10 for maximum CPC and this morning i had not even 1 impression, so probably the suggested price is not correct.

      Then i have switched again to CPM and received more clicks at a much higher price.



      Thanks,
      Morg
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by morg2k2 View Post


        Ad reach 1723
        Freq. 1.0
        Clicks: 66
        Results: 34 website clicks
        CTR: 3.81%
        cost: 0.63 per website click
        Average Price: 12.48 Optimized CPM
        Total spent: $21.56
        used only neews feeds
        You either need a better design or your niche is too social and not enough buyer.
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        • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
          well probably its the design, its nothing fancy but if it was too lousy they should not like the shirt right?

          i will need to get a better design and then test again.

          And about the audience 4.8M is too much or should be reduced to a lower audience.

          Have in mind they are very targeted.
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        • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          You either need a better design or your niche is too social and not enough buyer.
          Travis, i think FB wants most of us to really go with oCPM even with website clicks...The sugested bid range is 0.05-0.13$ (CND) and i'm bigging 0.76, guess what? No impressions 5 hours later! ( i started around 0.45$ then after 2 hours, raised it...an hour later raised it again, etc...)
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        I did impressions back in the day (like 3-4 years ago) when they were more cost effective to use. CPC is the way to go now. Travis spoke towards your product, so I'll provide some input with your approach.

        It sounds like you have people clicking because they're simply curious, and if they actually like your product, information such as price or color/lack-of-color availability, which was not provided on the marketing message (ad) often becomes the deterrent and they leave.

        You want the people who click your ad, what you pay for, to convert into sales. Focus more with getting as much of the message out to them in that limited space. I advertise the actual product, with a layered glow border, highlighted price, and a graphic that reads "Click Here To Buy." Believe it or not, I often get messages/comments asking what do they have to do or where can they go to buy what I'm offering. You need to make this easy for a 10 year old to understand.

        Keep asking questions, it's how I and the rest of us continue to learn.

        Good luck!

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        Originally Posted by morg2k2 View Post

        Hello Guys,

        Since i have saw this thread i think i had to take action

        So i have read a couple of threads here and watched a few YT vids about it.

        And picked a very hot niche.

        The first day (yesterday everning).

        I setup the campaign with the following specs:

        Daily Budget $15
        Interest about 10 highly targeted to the niche.
        That gave an audience of 4.8M

        Well if i have used CPC the bids were averaging 60 cents per click , so i prefered to use OCPM and in 5-10 minutes all the budget was spent
        with the following results:

        47 clicks
        27 clicks to website (where 26 gave me 25 FB likes)

        the CTR increased to 3.2%

        but no shirts sold.

        Now i have the following totals:


        Ad reach 1723
        Freq. 1.0
        Clicks: 66
        Results: 34 website clicks
        CTR: 3.81%
        cost: 0.63 per website click
        Average Price: 12.48 Optimized CPM
        Total spent: $21.56
        used only neews feeds

        Social Results:

        Teespring page:

        39 FB likes

        Facebook Page:

        23 FB Likes


        So what i think about this results:

        Maybe the audience is too big, but eventhough they are highly targeted, since the budget is small i should reduce the audience to 500k? what do you think about it?

        Secondly:

        even with a lousy result in terms of sales i watch a great social interest or else i would not have any likes and that´s why i don´t know very well to stop the campaign or tweak it.

        So i would like if possible some suggestions since you guys are working on this for sometime now.

        For last but not least:

        Relatively to Optimized CPM vs CPC what do you recommend when you start the campaign? and after 1 day do you switch to another method?

        Because i watch many people with low CPC but mine is not that great, for example last night after the budget has been exhausted i have edited the campaign and the recomended CPC was 0.04 - 0.08 and i offered 0.10 for maximum CPC and this morning i had not even 1 impression, so probably the suggested price is not correct.

        Then i have switched again to CPM and received more clicks at a much higher price.



        Thanks,
        Morg
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        • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
          Thanks for the feedback.
          You are right about it i did not used many colors neither focused on that kind of message. So i will fix it.

          Yesterday i have stopped the add and started posted in relevant fan pages and groups and the results obtained were more social interaction ,almost doubled the likes. But still no sales.


          Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

          I did impressions back in the day (like 3-4 years ago) when they were more cost effective to use. CPC is the way to go now. Travis spoke towards your product, so I'll provide some input with your approach.

          It sounds like you have people clicking because they're simply curious, and if they actually like your product, information such as price or color/lack-of-color availability, which was not provided on the marketing message (ad) often becomes the deterrent and they leave.

          You want the people who click your ad, what you pay for, to convert into sales. Focus more with getting as much of the message out to them in that limited space. I advertise the actual product, with a layered glow border, highlighted price, and a graphic that reads "Click Here To Buy." Believe it or not, I often get messages/comments asking what do they have to do or where can they go to buy what I'm offering. You need to make this easy for a 10 year old to understand.

          Keep asking questions, it's how I and the rest of us continue to learn.

          Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author Nrageth
    Guys I'm a bit stuck with oCPM, if someone could explain it to me I would appreciate it very much.
    Do I pay for impressions here or clicks?
    How should I determine my highest CPC bid?
    And what about Reach, Social, Actions - Should I keep them at 0$?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Nrageth View Post

      Guys I'm a bit stuck with oCPM, if someone could explain it to me I would appreciate it very much.
      Do I pay for impressions here or clicks?
      How should I determine my highest CPC bid?
      And what about Reach, Social, Actions - Should I keep them at 0$?
      CPM is paying for impressions... even if it's optimized CPM. Optimized just means Facebook will fluctuate your bid throughout the day.

      I only use CPC for these campaigns. I use CPM for completely different purposes.
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      • Profile picture of the author zmorris
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        I only use CPC for these campaigns. I use CPM for completely different purposes.
        I have been split testing CPC and oCPM for all of my campaigns and oCPM is the only one that has given me a successful campaign (about 18 campaigns tested). Why do you think this is? Am I doing something wrong with my CPC ads? I still haven't had any big hitters, just a few small profits here and there.
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          Originally Posted by zmorris View Post

          I have been split testing CPC and oCPM for all of my campaigns and oCPM is the only one that has given me a successful campaign (about 18 campaigns tested). Why do you think this is? Am I doing something wrong with my CPC ads? I still haven't had any big hitters, just a few small profits here and there.
          I couldn't say for sure. The ads Facebook chooses to show is still kind of a mystery to me. There is no clear explanation of why some ads don't get shown at all. I don't think it has to do with CPM or CPC.

          That more just determines what your money is being used for. When you run as many ad campaigns as I do, a few pennies on each campaign makes a large difference. That's why I have clear distinctions on ads that use CPM and CPC.
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    Cool stuff Travis. And guys, Thank you for sharing your experiences
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneTownFM
    Am I missing something here? Every audience combination I try in Facebook ads gives around $0.70 max suggested bid when targeting people in United States. The lowest I could get it was like $0.60. I even tried with exactly same settings people were doing around 20 cent CPCs in this thread. What's the deal here?
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by StoneTownFM View Post

      Am I missing something here? Every audience combination I try in Facebook ads gives around $0.70 max suggested bid when targeting people in United States. The lowest I could get it was like $0.60. I even tried with exactly same settings people were doing around 20 cent CPCs in this thread. What's the deal here?
      Well if other marketers are targeting your same audiences then the cost will be higher. People reporting the lower cpc seem to also be targeting incredibly specific niches. No one is specifically advertising to those people, so Facebook will take what it can get.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by StoneTownFM View Post

      Am I missing something here? Every audience combination I try in Facebook ads gives around $0.70 max suggested bid when targeting people in United States. The lowest I could get it was like $0.60. I even tried with exactly same settings people were doing around 20 cent CPCs in this thread. What's the deal here?
      once you create the ad, go back into the dashboard and look at what it suggests... it usually suggests a very high number when in the creation page... but it shows the real bid once the ads created.

      The bid Facebook gives when it's still registering your audience is $0.70 every time. That's what you're seeing.
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    thank you for your explanation.
    i'm starting it now based on your guide. Hope it helps
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  • Profile picture of the author melvinsh
    So do you create the fan page and advertise on fan page? What's the point of the fan page if you are advertising in news feed and right column? I just created an ad today want to know the best way to approach this to maximize, I appreciate you sharing this technique. Sorry if this is dumb question, I cannot even find where to change CPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by melvinsh View Post

      So do you create the fan page and advertise on fan page? What's the point of the fan page if you are advertising in news feed and right column? I just created an ad today want to know the best way to approach this to maximize, I appreciate you sharing this technique. Sorry if this is dumb question, I cannot even find where to change CPC.
      You can create a fan page and make a post for the shirt on it, but you always have to advertise with an actual news feed ad. Right now you're ad is just sort of a one time thing. Customers you get from the ad likely aren't going to buy from you again since it is only a limited time product.

      Whenever the ad is associated with a fan page they have somewhere to return to. If you find a good niche, make a fan page for it, along with multiple Teespring campaigns that link back to that fan page. You could potentially build a decent sized fan page just via successful Teespring campaigns in the same niche. If it proves popular you can even just focus on building out the fan page and then expand into other methods of monetizing it beyond Teespring.
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    Hi, Did you follow a course or did you learn from trial and error?
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    • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
      Guys i have one question about customized audiences.

      So i can scrape the user profiles and export to a file to use in a future campaign.

      I have used the FB Graph Search but i cant export the query results to a file (for ex. csv or txt file).

      The only way is buying a software to it? or there is any free solution?

      because for what i have seen the customized audiences can be the key of success.
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      Originally Posted by spring flower View Post

      Hi, Did you follow a course or did you learn from trial and error?
      Trial and error all the way. I will be having a course on my methods released very soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        Has anyone had an issue with a Teespring listing that you end early, yet it appears to remain active (the 'end early' button is no longer visible)? It shows the current date where the "days remaining" is usually displayed.. I have 4 listings I ended early like this. Ended a 5th one today and was able to cash it out...

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Trial and error all the way. I will be having a course on my methods released very soon.
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        • Profile picture of the author dtul
          On the other 4 were you not able to cash them out?

          Also does anyone know if there is a way to determine your cost per shirt once a campaign is already in motion? I forgot to note what my shirt cost was on a campaign I am doing right now.

          Also does anyone know how Facebook determines what ad to show? I am split testing two different ads for a campaign that is going really well right now and two different ad groups. On my larger group of 56,000 potentials one image is getting 15% CTR and the other is 13.7% CTR, yet the 13.7% is being shown much more. On the other ad group that is much more targeted the first image has 27.4% CTR on the first group and 33.9% CTR on the second group, yet the 27.4% is being shown way more.

          Whenever I paused the lesser CTR on each, I expected the better performing CTR ad to take over and be shown. However, after I rechecked my ad stats an hour later the ads had all but stopped being shown. The two images I had left playing with the higher CTR had only been shown like 50 times between the two in an hour. Once I restarted the other two images within the hour they were back to being shown hundreds and thousands of times. So does anyone happen to know why that would occur?
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            My wonderful Teespring account manager explained to me why that occured.. Something to do with some listings won't properly close out and there isn't as many TS staff on the weekend to catch them.

            By the way folks, if you got that Teespring VIP account manager email, it's legit! I get all of my answers, changes, etc responded to within minutes.

            Originally Posted by dtul View Post

            On the other 4 were you not able to cash them out?

            Also does anyone know if there is a way to determine your cost per shirt once a campaign is already in motion? I forgot to note what my shirt cost was on a campaign I am doing right now.

            Also does anyone know how Facebook determines what ad to show? I am split testing two different ads for a campaign that is going really well right now and two different ad groups. On my larger group of 56,000 potentials one image is getting 15% CTR and the other is 13.7% CTR, yet the 13.7% is being shown much more. On the other ad group that is much more targeted the first image has 27.4% CTR on the first group and 33.9% CTR on the second group, yet the 27.4% is being shown way more.

            Whenever I paused the lesser CTR on each, I expected the better performing CTR ad to take over and be shown. However, after I rechecked my ad stats an hour later the ads had all but stopped being shown. The two images I had left playing with the higher CTR had only been shown like 50 times between the two in an hour. Once I restarted the other two images within the hour they were back to being shown hundreds and thousands of times. So does anyone happen to know why that would occur?
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Is anyone else having trouble with custom audiences? My ads keep getting paused automatically after a few hours. Haven't received any messages regarding that.
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      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Is anyone else having trouble with custom audiences? My ads keep getting paused automatically after a few hours. Haven't received any messages regarding that.
      This has been happening to me the past few days as well. I think it's just a FB glitch going on right now.
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        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        This has been happening to me the past few days as well. I think it's just a FB glitch going on right now.
        Good to know I wasn't the only one. Went out last night and got back at 3AM and noticed only 2-3 sales when I was expecting a ton more. I then saw all my ads paused. I restarted them and then it happened again 12 hours later.
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    Had the pause today as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I just started working on an extensive guide for my Teespring model. I know a lot of you guys want to know more and have questions. So, now's your chance to get those questions answered and help me put together the best product possible.

    I started a thread for you to post what you would like to know and see in a Teespring product. If you have any suggestions, click the link below and give me your input...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...ing-guide.html

    Thanks for the help guys. No promotions or sales tactics... just want to help the best I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author dtul
    I've had the pause happen a couple times, but I had a weirder thing happen where a paused campaign turned active overnight. I woke up this morning to check a current campaign which is showing some promise and noticed one that I had decided to discontinue had started advertising again. Had like $19 wasted because it randomly started going again. Did this happen to anyone else or were you guys all just getting a pause only?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by dtul View Post

      I've had the pause happen a couple times, but I had a weirder thing happen where a paused campaign turned active overnight. I woke up this morning to check a current campaign which is showing some promise and noticed one that I had decided to discontinue had started advertising again. Had like $19 wasted because it randomly started going again. Did this happen to anyone else or were you guys all just getting a pause only?
      I have had this happen before but it was a while back. Facebook is a little glitchy at times.
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    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    What's up guys?

    Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

    Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
    ==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

    Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

    I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

    In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

    I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

    Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

    Take a look at my latest one...



    $260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

    I'll take it!

    This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

    So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

    TARGETING!!!!

    Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

    In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

    I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

    Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

    Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

    That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

    My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

    So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

    I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

    Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

    Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

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    Just saw your latest video...Now means these campaigns screenshots are about outdated stuff...because of copyrights :S
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

      Just saw your latest video...Now means these campaigns screenshots are about outdated stuff...because of copyrights :S
      What do you mean they're outdated because of copyrights? Copyright law hasn't changed in just two months, its still the same now as it was then. The screenshots are still relevant, he's showing what type of stats he was receiving at the time to show his legitimacy.
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      Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

      Just saw your latest video...Now means these campaigns screenshots are about outdated stuff...because of copyrights :S
      They were never allowed. It's always been infringement with that angle. I stopped that angle after the first week of campaigns and went away from sports.
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        Originally Posted by dtul View Post

        What do you mean they're outdated because of copyrights? Copyright law hasn't changed in just two months, its still the same now as it was then. The screenshots are still relevant, he's showing what type of stats he was receiving at the time to show his legitimacy.
        maybe, but what i meant about outdated is that they're not valid anymore as they weren't allowed in the first place and that he stopped running them...

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        They were never allowed. It's always been infringement with that angle. I stopped that angle after the first week of campaigns and went away from sports.
        I would guess you've moved into the custom audiences? family names maybe even?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Hey all, have been out of action for a bit, pain in the butt. Petelta, I need to catch up again on skype soon with you!

    Yeah, I have 26 ads running at the moment and they are pausing automatically too. Pain in the ass!!
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Custom audiences that use the same first/last name are getting disabled.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Custom audiences that use the same first/last name are getting disabled.
      Elaborate?
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        All my custom audiences targeting surnames got disabled due to violating the Facebook Ads Guidelines.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shina
      Hi
      Im about to launch some activity with Teespring. Would really appreciate some guidance with a couple of queries from the guys with great knowledge here.

      OP-
      when you say you are scraping daily with no problems and other big marketers are too, are you using software to scrape the FB Graph search (against TOS?) or a "legitimate" software that uses the FB api? Also how many UIDs can you scrape in one go and upload into a campaign?

      It seems a good idea and powerful to target users who have liked and shared in large numbers specific posts on big active FB pages. I mean that you could then design a shirt around the post/image that caused so much reaction. Is there any way to scrape the UIDs of these like/share users to create custom audiences.

      i got two FB accounts built up with $2k/day spend and dont want to get them banned suspended, it seems such a grey area with the "scraping" but highly desirable way of proceeding.

      many thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by Shina View Post

        Hi
        Im about to launch some activity with Teespring. Would really appreciate some guidance with a couple of queries from the guys with great knowledge here.

        OP-
        when you say you are scraping daily with no problems and other big marketers are too, are you using software to scrape the FB Graph search (against TOS?) or a "legitimate" software that uses the FB api? Also how many UIDs can you scrape in one go and upload into a campaign?

        It seems a good idea and powerful to target users who have liked and shared in large numbers specific posts on big active FB pages. I mean that you could then design a shirt around the post/image that caused so much reaction. Is there any way to scrape the UIDs of these like/share users to create custom audiences.

        i got two FB accounts built up with $2k/day spend and dont want to get them banned suspended, it seems such a grey area with the "scraping" but highly desirable way of proceeding.

        many thanks
        The FB TOS states that you need permission to scrape their UIDs and use it a custom audience. No scraping tool does this... so they all break the TOS really.

        Custom audiences are very powerful. here's one I posted yesterday that's focused around Derek Jeter. he announced retirement, so it's a buzz topic.



        You won't get banned for scraping.
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    Wow shit...when did that happen?
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Like 30 minutes ago. Ads got paused and I couldn't restart them. Then I checked custom audiences and all of them had the same message.
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    Damn that sux. Game over
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    Lol yeah, f***. Easiest money ever gone.
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    I think I already know a way around it. But yeah, that sux
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    Should be easy to get around
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    @ nicoli - it's in their Terms...at least yesterday I heard about this, not 30 minutes ago or whatever.

    I just think FB is catching up with everyone running "name" campaigns. Go ahead and try to find a way around it, best of luck.

    But, I'd recommend you just move on to other niches, that's what I'm doing.
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      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      @ nicoli - it's in their Terms...at least yesterday I heard about this, not 30 minutes ago or whatever.

      I just think FB is catching up with everyone running "name" campaigns. Go ahead and try to find a way around it, best of luck.

      But, I'd recommend you just move on to other niches, that's what I'm doing.
      At 20K+ profit per week I am going to hang in there as long as possible before swapping out niches.
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    Don't blame you with those numbers and I DO wish you luck!

    Just saying if this is your first time hearing of it and you haven't read their newly amended ToS regarding targeting names in both ad copy, ad image (banners) and possibly even target URL and custom audience lists, then you may struggle. But, who knows, knock yourself out

    With that amount of money, surely you can carve new niches with ease.

    Good to know people out there making that much money though so thanks for the inspiration

    Cheers
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    I'll probably get a FB slap/ban...but care factor = 0
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    They just added to their TOS yesterday and started disabling ads that targeted names...



    I just noticed they started disabling all the custom audiences with those names as well. That angle is dead pretty much... Facebook started considering it spam because too many people were doing it.

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      @ Petalta What software did you use to scrape those uid based on username?
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        Originally Posted by jhunry View Post

        @ Petalta What software did you use to scrape those uid based on username?
        I used Facebook Graph Scraper Vol. 2. I also use Datareach to scrape groups and status updates.
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        • So what next!?


          Around 18 hours ago I had a sinking feeling like someone had just dropped a rock on my balls. Facebook was the rock. My 30 Teespring campaigns were my balls.


          For anyone who found success with the TEAM *insert name* shirt campaigns, you will know that having a 2k day (profit) was not difficult. This was the first time I "hit a home run" after dabbling with many other ideas, Affiliate products, JV´s and CJ promotions... Finally I was seeing real proof that this IM stuff can work, and work extremely well.

          I should have taken the advice of educated marketers who said build an asset, the names won't last long. I still think I have time though J After 12 extremelly busy days and around $20,000 in sales I feel it is now time to start building that asset. The truth is that I would have happily continued creating name campaigns until every single person in the US was wearing their name, but we have to remember it is not us that holds the cards and we have to play with the hand we are dealt.

          So to affirm the start of me becoming a regular face to this forum, who is with me in finding and succeeding with the next Teespring Money maker?

          Here are a couple of questions I have -

          - Who is already making money promoting teespring campaigns on other social media sites outside of FB? What do you recommend? Can you target audiences on variables like name, age and gender on twitter or pinterest for example?!

          - What do you think the next goldmine opportunity within FB will be now that the T&C´s have made it clear we cannot target names, ages, gender, religion etc etc....


          Looking forward to hearing from you - the success I have found has motivated me way beyond safe or normal levels and I am literally buzzing to get going with the next one!!!

          Looking forward to hearing from you

          p.s - Travis, if you happen to read this I want to again say thank you for everything you post relating to FB and Teespring...your insight and knowledge is nothing short of Awesome!
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by From Rads To Riches View Post

            Here are a couple of questions I have -

            - Who is already making money promoting teespring campaigns on other social media sites outside of FB? What do you recommend? Can you target audiences on variables like name, age and gender on twitter or pinterest for example?!

            - What do you think the next goldmine opportunity within FB will be now that the T&C´s have made it clear we cannot target names, ages, gender, religion etc etc....
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            Hey man, I know the feeling you're having with the name campaigns. I was expecting to rake in another $50k from it over the next 30 days... but that's gone now.

            No need to worry though. There are tons of open angles to jump into. The key is like you said, find a long term asset. This means jump into a single niche and grow a following. You see all the bronco shirts, nurse shirts, country girl shirts, seahawk shirts, etc flying around out there and 99% of those are being sold through a fan page and email list.

            So pick a niche and focus on it. I suggest starting with a fan page and getting it to 20-50k likes. From here, you have an audience to get things going. Then you can do recurring shirts that sells hundreds each time.

            There will be other short term hot campaign angles like we saw with the names, but they are always short lived.

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              Thanks Travis

              is there any way to scrape uids of people liking/sharing specific posts within particular FB pages ?

              also when is your product/guide coming out?

              many thanks
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            • Sound advice as always Travis - cheers man.

              I have some ideas in the pipeline and I am going to spend some time growing a decent fan base.

              Best of luck to everyone and if someone finds a way to get past this, I am all ears
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    I got into the custom audience game too late (about a week ago). I wish I had taken advantage of it sooner!
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Lol, the secret is out. We all made money with the TS shirts. Looks like everyone made more then 20K sales. I did 35K
    The Last names was the secret that no one mention. On to other stuff or trying to find ways around.
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    Thanks petelta.
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  • Profile picture of the author iPostBusiness
    You guys rode that team "last name" niche until the wheels fell off lol! I love teespring, there's so many possibilities there to make money. I havent made any sales yet but thats because i was foolish and tried to rush the process in hopes of fast money.

    BUT im back. Theres so many niches on teespring that havent been exploited its not even funny. This thing is a gold mine. I have a couple niches i cant wait to test out and see how it does. Thank you all for the inspiration and letting me know its possible.

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    These two sites are all you need to come up with a game winning design. DONT REINVENT THE WHEEL. See whats selling like hot cakes and just put your own spin on it. Dont steal a fellow IMers design outright though. Also if you cant make designs good then don't go to fiverr, just purchase the designs that the fiverr sellers use to make your shirts

    If I messed up someones little fiverr gig then so be it, im here to help the community. Also I wouldnt buy a WSO or join any crappy forum just hop on youtube and type in teespring profits. The point of this is to build something thats going to sustain you with minimal work, not make a quick 50K and not make anything else for months. Stay away from trademarked/copy written work as well.

    i havent made a single dime with teespring yet but I can more than see the potential in this system. Good hunting everyone
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    • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
      Originally Posted by iPostBusiness View Post

      You guys rode that team "last name" niche until the wheels fell off lol! I love teespring, there's so many possibilities there to make money. I havent made any sales yet but thats because i was foolish and tried to rush the process in hopes of fast money.

      BUT im back. Theres so many niches on teespring that havent been exploited its not even funny. This thing is a gold mine. I have a couple niches i cant wait to test out and see how it does. Thank you all for the inspiration and letting me know its possible.

      THIS IS HOW YOU CHOOSE A NICHE MY FELLOW WARRIORS

      Explore T-shirts, Campaigns and Designs | Teespring

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      These two sites are all you need to come up with a game winning design. DONT REINVENT THE WHEEL. See whats selling like hot cakes and just put your own spin on it. Dont steal a fellow IMers design outright though. Also if you cant make designs good then don't go to fiverr, just purchase the designs that the fiverr sellers use to make your shirts

      If I messed up someones little fiverr gig then so be it, im here to help the community. Also I wouldnt buy a WSO or join any crappy forum just hop on youtube and type in teespring profits. The point of this is to build something thats going to sustain you with minimal work, not make a quick 50K and not make anything else for months. Stay away from trademarked/copy written work as well.

      i havent made a single dime with teespring yet but I can more than see the potential in this system. Good hunting everyone
      That is all good info, but you have to remember most of this guys have a big facebook page.
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      • Profile picture of the author iPostBusiness
        Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

        That is all good info, but you have to remember most of this guys have a big facebook page.
        You don't need one home slice
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by iPostBusiness View Post

          You don't need one home slice
          Nope, don't need one... BUT, everyone that's doing this model should be focusing on growing at least 1 solid fan page.

          If you don't, you're going to be posting here complaining about how you used to make $xx,xxx every month from teespring, but now it's gone because you didn't create a long term asset.

          95% of campaigns that have sold 500+ shirts came from a source with a large fan page.
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          • Profile picture of the author Shina
            I can absolutely see how growing a decnt fan page helps.

            Can i just clarify:

            can you create newsfeed ads WITHOUT a fan page?

            am i correct in saying that it can be done ONLY via power editor?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              No, you need a fan page.. But what better way to grow fans while promoting a for-profit item? There's an option to PAY for fb ads to get "likes," but that is just silly.

              Originally Posted by Shina View Post

              I can absolutely see how growing a decnt fan page helps.

              Can i just clarify:

              can you create newsfeed ads WITHOUT a fan page?

              am i correct in saying that it can be done ONLY via power editor?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christine99
    Great sharing Petelta, thanks to all you for sharing the Facebook Ads experience I bookmarked this thread to read it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    ^^^ wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this as well.

    While I fully agree with what Travis is saying, there are some niches I'm going to target tonight and if the shirt/hoodie doesn't sell, then the page may not be worth continuing to build. So, I may build a more "generic" niche page would would cover several of my new designs somewhat and if any take off, then I can pause the ad (or create a new one?) and target a page based around the shirt design/targeted niche.

    But, as far as getting to market quickly, if we can avoid the page building (not that it's hard per se) just to see if a campaign has legs, then could go back and build a page for future targeting.

    I'll probably just keep building fan pages but still would like to know if we can avoid it via the Power Editor.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      But, as far as getting to market quickly, if we can avoid the page building (not that it's hard per se) just to see if a campaign has legs, then could go back and build a page for future targeting.
      Going that route is only going to last so long though. I would do things the opposite way... start with your long term niche page. Just because an ad campaign for tshirts doesn't do well from scratch does not mean a fan page won't sell hundreds of shirts in the same niche.

      now, while it's hot and working, drain ever penny out of these hot buzz shirts while you can... but make that a side priority to getting that long term following going. Trust me, you'll be doing much bigger paychecks 6 months from now if you do that.

      To the original question, I'm not sure if you can do newsfeed ads from the power editor without a fan page. Never tried it myself. The fan page is a huge advantage, so I don't see why you would ever not have one associated.
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      • Profile picture of the author Saintsfan40
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Going that route is only going to last so long though. I would do things the opposite way... start with your long term niche page. Just because an ad campaign for tshirts doesn't do well from scratch does not mean a fan page won't sell hundreds of shirts in the same niche.

        now, while it's hot and working, drain ever penny out of these hot buzz shirts while you can... but make that a side priority to getting that long term following going. Trust me, you'll be doing much bigger paychecks 6 months from now if you do that.

        To the original question, I'm not sure if you can do newsfeed ads from the power editor without a fan page. Never tried it myself. The fan page is a huge advantage, so I don't see why you would ever not have one associated.
        Good stuff Travis. It looks like there are a lot of different angles to profit from Teespring. Have a few questions if you could help me out.

        I'm looking at creating a fan page in sports niche for my favorite NFL football team. I'm a die hard fan of that team and there are a lot of big fan pages surrounding that team. So therefore, I'm looking at creating a fan page FOR my favorite team, I have a lot of knowledge of my team, players, coaches etc.

        My questions are:,

        Should I focus on interacting with other fan pages of that team before I start running campaigns?

        How many fans/likes should I accumulate before I launch campaigns?(Important)

        By targeting options, would it be better if I target custom audience? Or target the other fan pages of my niche/team?

        Another option. Should I promote my page in campaign to get a certain amount of likes BEFORE I promote clicks to website in news feeds?

        Also, what niches should I steer clear from? Or are they all profitable?


        Look forward to your feedback Travis.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Saintsfan

          Should I focus on interacting with other fan pages of that team before I start running campaigns?

          No need to interact with other fan pages. You're not going to get much traffic that's worth your time. Ads can handle the traffic for you.

          How many fans/likes should I accumulate before I launch campaigns?(Important)

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          By targeting options, would it be better if I target custom audience? Or target the other fan pages of my niche/team?

          There's a time and place for both. You'll be using both. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish with that ad campaign. I use interests for 85% of my ad campaigns. I really only use custom audiences when I have a very specific group of people I'm trying to communicate with.

          Another option. Should I promote my page in campaign to get a certain amount of likes BEFORE I promote clicks to website in news feeds?

          If you're growing a long term fan base around the Saints, I would start with "like campaigns". This is where you use ads to generate likes to your fan page. Keep your fan page interactive and once you have 20-50k fans, you can start serious tshirt sales.

          You can use newsfeed ads to generate clicks to tshirt campaigns or other product offers during this growth as well. A portion of those viewers will like your fan page as well.


          Also, what niches should I steer clear from?

          Niches people don't like to talk about.




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  • Profile picture of the author ccjus535
    One thing about T-Spring is that it takes a ton of testing. You can always outsource someone to It's key to find a good audience on Facebook (a fanpage with high engagement/lots of commenting is best). I like being able to target them using Social Lead Freak and being able to take advantage of targeting those who do the "commenting." Fanpages with lots of highly engaged audiences are more likely to buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhunry
    Hello Guys,
    Who among you runs this campaign. "kiss me, i'm a NAME" does this target female audience only?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author malouisa
    Wow! You have a very good results on this. Do you have lots of followers to have these results? I honestly tried before selling something with facebook but no result. Should i create a fan page and have more likes first before i can follow your technique?
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    • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
      Originally Posted by malouisa View Post

      Wow! You have a very good results on this. Do you have lots of followers to have these results? I honestly tried before selling something with facebook but no result. Should i create a fan page and have more likes first before i can follow your technique?
      I have started many of fb fan pages with 0 likes and ran my ad campaigns without having any content on the page at all. I've had some profitable shirts that have helped me build some of these pages to around 1k likes. Although this is not many in comparison to some, I now post content to the page and continue advertising different shirts in the same niche. The pages continue to grow.

      I am not making a lot of money like some people on here but I am turning a profit after initially losing 400-500 in the first few weeks.
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

        I am not making a lot of money like some people on here but I am turning a profit after initially losing 400-500 in the first few weeks.
        This is a good statement for all newcomers to read. I spent a few thousand dollars in failed ads before figuring out the entire system and actually being able to turn a profit.

        So, all those people that are upset because they aren't seeing success, but you haven't spent at least a few hundred dollars in multiple campaigns, then, you haven't tried enough yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
          Concur, I've spent a few thousand as well. You eventually get a working "system" that provides early visibility of poor designs to drop before losing any more $$ and good ones to ride out... Again, I use MS Excel to track all cost variables and use a quantitative base for determining which one stays and which ones go.. Works WELL with Teespring...not so well with women.


          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          This is a good statement for all newcomers to read. I spent a few thousand dollars in failed ads before figuring out the entire system and actually being able to turn a profit.

          So, all those people that are upset because they aren't seeing success, but you haven't spent at least a few hundred dollars in multiple campaigns, then, you haven't tried enough yet.
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    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    This is a good statement for all newcomers to read. I spent a few thousand dollars in failed ads before figuring out the entire system and actually being able to turn a profit.

    So, all those people that are upset because they aren't seeing success, but you haven't spent at least a few hundred dollars in multiple campaigns, then, you haven't tried enough yet.

    Sounds like a great strategy. and the results look inspiring. But of course, gotta test something first before you know how it will really fare. And I agree, that "testing" may cost up to a few thousand before you get it right...
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  • Glad to hear the tee shirt business is doing so good for you and thank you for sharing.
    Your right there is no getting around paying your dues when it comes to testing.
    If you really want to succeed in this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Is anyone having trouble getting a response from support? I've sent a few emails and have had no response for the last 5 days. I was getting responses within minutes/hours before. I know most of you posting are probably VIP program sellers that are teespring priority.... but this is pretty disappointing.
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  • Profile picture of the author UnknownIdentity
    Hi,

    it would be interesting if you guys are still running some teespring campgains. Im thinking about creating a new one for me but i read about targeting and facebook did some huge changes which dont make this business viable anymore. Am i wrong?

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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by UnknownIdentity View Post

      Hi,

      it would be interesting if you guys are still running some teespring campgains. Im thinking about creating a new one for me but i read about targeting and facebook did some huge changes which dont make this business viable anymore. Am i wrong?

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      It's still very lucrative. You just can't do some of the angles that were available the past few months.
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      • Profile picture of the author UnknownIdentity
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        It's still very lucrative. You just can't do some of the angles that were available the past few months.
        I see, thank you dude. Will try it out and will post my review here later on.
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  • Profile picture of the author vippinoy
    hey guys with your teespring campaign what do you do page post engagement or click to website? im a bit confused about this. thanks guys!
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    Wow!! Great job!
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  • Profile picture of the author reg0903
    Yes, that is the great way to promote a product... Btw, you instead to pay ads facebook you can also make a sale on facebook by posting and sharing.. all you need to have atleat 100 accounts to go..
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  • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
    Their CS is truly horrible. Last week I had to wait 3 days to get a simple color change addressed. By that time the campaign was already half over.

    Tonight I tried 3 times to launch a new shirt and all 3 times the campaign "launched" but the images are blank, makes the shirt worthless. They have a rule where you can't end a campaign early unless you have the minimum sales, so now I have 3 worthless shirt campaigns running out there. I'd try a 4th time to launch this shirt but I'm afraid this one won't work either.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
    Most people say that 20-40$ per design is enough to test and know if you've got a winner...But is it really?

    So those who have success with teespring and fb ads, how do you spread your test budget? 20$ on 1 image/description? 20$ on 2 images & description?

    I am asking because it got me thinking that if a winning design is tested with a bad newfeed ad or a bad text above it...or by using the wrong objective, then 20$ is just too low to properly test and therefore equal a failed campaign.

    Or is it that nomatter what the image looks like, the text says...If the design is a winner, it'll make sales anyway?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

      Most people say that 20-40$ per design is enough to test and know if you've got a winner...But is it really?

      So those who have success with teespring and fb ads, how do you spread your test budget? 20$ on 1 image/description? 20$ on 2 images & description?

      I am asking because it got me thinking that if a winning design is tested with a bad newfeed ad or a bad text above it...or by using the wrong objective, then 20$ is just too low to properly test and therefore equal a failed campaign.

      Or is it that nomatter what the image looks like, the text says...If the design is a winner, it'll make sales anyway?
      If a design is a winner, it will make sales. You spend $20+ to test your ads to see if it's a winner.. not to make it the best it possibly can be.

      If you continue to sell the shirt, then you can start testing text styles, colors, etc.

      Typically, I upload 10 different designs at once. They are all hitting different audiences so that I'm not competing with myself. So, that's $200/day in the testing alone. Out of 10, I typically see 1-2 that will actually be worth spending more on them.
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      • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        If a design is a winner, it will make sales. You spend $20+ to test your ads to see if it's a winner.. not to make it the best it possibly can be.

        If you continue to sell the shirt, then you can start testing text styles, colors, etc.

        Typically, I upload 10 different designs at once. They are all hitting different audiences so that I'm not competing with myself. So, that's $200/day in the testing alone. Out of 10, I typically see 1-2 that will actually be worth spending more on them.
        Right totally get that! But to make your $20 worth it, you have to test an ad that's gonna do good too, no? Do you always test with the same template, text in your ads? then if its a winner you test color and text?
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

          Right totally get that! But to make your $20 worth it, you have to test an ad that's gonna do good too, no? Do you always test with the same template, text in your ads? then if its a winner you test color and text?
          Yes, I have a template that I use for every ad I do... but that came from hundreds of tests and campaigns. The funny thing is the most plain design has won my ads every time.

          You have to also realize that $20 testing is just the beginning. For a good campaign, you're going to end up spending a few hundred dollars no matter what... this is the only way to send enough traffic to buy hundreds of tshirts.

          I spent $10,000 on my biggest campaign... but that campaign revenued $24,000. So I made $12,000 in a matter of 4 days... but that would of never happened without the $10k to spend.

          My typical day has $200 being invested in TESTING ALONE. That's 10 separate campaigns that I let run... usually 8 of those ($160) don't do crap... that's a loss. But, the other two will generate some profit and sometimes explode.

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          • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            Yes, I have a template that I use for every ad I do... but that came from hundreds of tests and campaigns. The funny thing is the most plain design has won my ads every time.

            You have to also realize that $20 testing is just the beginning. For a good campaign, you're going to end up spending a few hundred dollars no matter what... this is the only way to send enough traffic to buy hundreds of tshirts.

            I spent $10,000 on my biggest campaign... but that campaign revenued $24,000. So I made $12,000 in a matter of 4 days... but that would of never happened without the $10k to spend.

            My typical day has $200 being invested in TESTING ALONE. That's 10 separate campaigns that I let run... usually 8 of those ($160) don't do crap... that's a loss. But, the other two will generate some profit and sometimes explode.

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            Oh for sure there needs to be more money spent then 20$ for a winning campaign, i was just talking about the testing to find out which are winners
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              I use $50 per campaign only because it gives me a more accurate feel for how well a design/ad will do. Those that Travis classified as doing well will be obvious (5-10 sales with $35 remaining for the test day) and those that have 0-2 sales will be dropped, often before the $50 is spent. You do NOT have to use $50 to test with, just be smart with $20. Remember different times of the day influence buying behavior. Most of my sales/conversions occur in the evenings/night, though I'll get ad clicks during the day, and yes some sales. This is often because people are at work and are curious to see what you're selling (even though the ad clearly shows).

              My main business I've ran for the past 6 years focuses on the college market and just like the market we deal with now, these college kids would click through my fb ad to my website but would often just browse. Google Analytics told me this info and also showed a lot of the same people would return later that evening to complete a transaction (so conversions do actually occur, but later). I wish TS had Google Analytics capabilities...it's much more powerful! Again, this is why I use $50 to test with because it allows for more time and lets me get a better feel with how consumers are responding.


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              Oh for sure there needs to be more money spent then 20$ for a winning campaign, i was just talking about the testing to find out which are winners
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      • Profile picture of the author Shina
        Hi Travis
        You mentioned you typically test 10 new designs per day.

        How much work do you do on the FB page you put up before creating newsfeed ads from it and do you usually get decent traffic immediately from ads even if there has been no interaction on the page?

        The reason I ask is that I have set up my first page and two newsfeed ads split testing two designs and age demos to a target group of 198k users. CPC set 30c over minimum with $50 daily budget. I got only a tiny number of impressions, zero clicks, it hasn't picked up at all and I cant work out why.

        My ad account has been established for several years and has a high daily spend albeit hasn't been used for some time.

        My previous experience has been that I got thousands of imps and clicks pretty quickly but its hard to know what's going on with this with no data or ad feedback.

        Any thoughts appreciated as I'm not sure whether to put this down as a fail and just keep creating more campaigns.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by Shina View Post

          Hi Travis
          You mentioned you typically test 10 new designs per day.

          How much work do you do on the FB page you put up before creating newsfeed ads from it and do you usually get decent traffic immediately from ads even if there has been no interaction on the page?

          The reason I ask is that I have set up my first page and two newsfeed ads split testing two designs and age demos to a target group of 198k users. CPC set 30c over minimum with $50 daily budget. I got only a tiny number of impressions, zero clicks, it hasn't picked up at all and I cant work out why.

          My ad account has been established for several years and has a high daily spend albeit hasn't been used for some time.

          My previous experience has been that I got thousands of imps and clicks pretty quickly but its hard to know what's going on with this with no data or ad feedback.

          Any thoughts appreciated as I'm not sure whether to put this down as a fail and just keep creating more campaigns.
          You don't need a fan page with any likes before advertising. It has nothing to do with the ads success. Once you have a fan page, you have a more targeted group of people who are interested in wha tyou post than if you are just targeting a random interest.

          But for buzz topics, you can still do well selling these shirts straight from ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author iPostBusiness
    Guys TeeSpring kinda sucks

    Their CS is horrible and the rules are starting to get more strict and shady. I've moved over to greener pastures on a better site/platform.
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by iPostBusiness View Post

      Guys TeeSpring kinda sucks

      Their CS is horrible and the rules are starting to get more strict and shady. I've moved over to greener pastures on a better site/platform.
      And what site would that be?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by iPostBusiness View Post

      Guys TeeSpring kinda sucks

      Their CS is horrible and the rules are starting to get more strict and shady. I've moved over to greener pastures on a better site/platform.
      Ideally, if you want to do shirt sales for months to come as a large part of your business, I would set up a manufacturing system anyways. Teespring is good for affiliate marketers and these quick buzz angles.

      Their CS only has gotten bad because of how popular the system has become. A huge influx of marketers has happened the past 2 months.
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        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Ideally, if you want to do shirt sales for months to come as a large part of your business, I would set up a manufacturing system anyways. Teespring is good for affiliate marketers and these quick buzz angles.

        Their CS only has gotten bad because of how popular the system has become. A huge influx of marketers has happened the past 2 months.
        Yeah, like Travis said it's just a growing pain on their part. If you look at Google trends for them they have just skyrocketed in popularity recently. No way they can hire and train enough people to handle the number of new marketers all of a sudden using their service. Give their CS time to grow to handle this new wave of customers they are getting and it will even out.
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  • Profile picture of the author redondo
    Guys i need your input here. I ran a campaign yesterday in sportniche.
    I havent got any sales but you can see my stats down here. i think it is very good stats for only spenden 8 bucks.
    WHat could be wrong here? The design ?

    I got a lot of likes, only 4 comments and 2 shares.

    Results?

    136
    Website Clicks
    Cost?
    $0.06
    Website Clicks
    Campaign Reach?
    6,640
    Frequency?
    1.0
    Clicks?
    474
    Click-Through Rate?
    7.153%
    Total Spent?
    $8.02
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    • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
      Your stats are good but you should make at least 1-2 sales with 136 clicks.


      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      Guys i need your input here. I ran a campaign yesterday in sportniche.
      I havent got any sales but you can see my stats down here. i think it is very good stats for only spenden 8 bucks.
      WHat could be wrong here? The design ?

      I got a lot of likes, only 4 comments and 2 shares.

      Results?

      136
      Website Clicks
      Cost?
      $0.06
      Website Clicks
      Campaign Reach?
      6,640
      Frequency?
      1.0
      Clicks?
      474
      Click-Through Rate?
      7.153%
      Total Spent?
      $8.02
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      If you've dropped the design or are okay with sharing, I'd like to see a screenshot of your ad and listing. I'll give you my views/suggestions. You can even PM if you don't want it public.

      Like my previous post, time of day could have been why you had no sales..

      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      Guys i need your input here. I ran a campaign yesterday in sportniche.
      I havent got any sales but you can see my stats down here. i think it is very good stats for only spenden 8 bucks.
      WHat could be wrong here? The design ?

      I got a lot of likes, only 4 comments and 2 shares.

      Results?

      136
      Website Clicks
      Cost?
      $0.06
      Website Clicks
      Campaign Reach?
      6,640
      Frequency?
      1.0
      Clicks?
      474
      Click-Through Rate?
      7.153%
      Total Spent?
      $8.02
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by redondo View Post

      Guys i need your input here. I ran a campaign yesterday in sportniche.
      I havent got any sales but you can see my stats down here. i think it is very good stats for only spenden 8 bucks.
      WHat could be wrong here? The design ?

      I got a lot of likes, only 4 comments and 2 shares.

      Results?

      136
      Website Clicks
      Cost?
      $0.06
      Website Clicks
      Campaign Reach?
      6,640
      Frequency?
      1.0
      Clicks?
      474
      Click-Through Rate?
      7.153%
      Total Spent?
      $8.02
      when you get a campaign that gets a bunch of clicks, but no sales... then, you either have a design they don't like, or you're targeting too viral of a niche. When things get hot, people like, share, and click just because it's a buzzing. Each of these actions, you have to pay for.
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      • Profile picture of the author darlanne
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        when you get a campaign that gets a bunch of clicks, but no sales... then, you either have a design they don't like, or you're targeting too viral of a niche. When things get hot, people like, share, and click just because it's a buzzing. Each of these actions, you have to pay for.
        when you say "too viral of a niche" do you mean too overpopulated with similar offers?
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by darlanne View Post

          when you say "too viral of a niche" do you mean too overpopulated with similar offers?
          It's not about offers... it's about the difference between niches that want to buy tshirts... and niches that want to click LIKE. Some niches are too social. Without a great design, you'll burn through a lot of money very quickly in these niches.
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          • Profile picture of the author darlanne
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            It's not about offers... it's about the difference between niches that want to buy tshirts... and niches that want to click LIKE. Some niches are too social. Without a great design, you'll burn through a lot of money very quickly in these niches.
            Thank you for clarifying the "some niches are too social" aspect, now I understand.
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            • Profile picture of the author vanbino
              out the 10 campaign that you put together everyday how many t-shirts you are looking to sell before you decide that the campaigns is worth spending more time on
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              • Profile picture of the author petelta
                Originally Posted by vanbino View Post

                out the 10 campaign that you put together everyday how many t-shirts you are looking to sell before you decide that the campaigns is worth spending more time on
                I've answered this probably 10 times now on this thread. I would like you to think about the answer for this one yourself. It's an extremely easy question that pretty much needs to be understood if you ever want to advertise anything!

                If I'm going to test $20 per tshirt and I make $10 per shirt sold... how many shirts do I want to sell in that $20 so that I continue promoting the ad?
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  Sounds like we're back in school doing word problems. Solve for X.

                  Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                  I've answered this probably 10 times now on this thread. I would like you to think about the answer for this one yourself. It's an extremely easy question that pretty much needs to be understood if you ever want to advertise anything!

                  If I'm going to test $20 per tshirt and I make $10 per shirt sold... how many shirts do I want to sell in that $20 so that I continue promoting the ad?
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                • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
                  Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                  I've answered this probably 10 times now on this thread. I would like you to think about the answer for this one yourself. It's an extremely easy question that pretty much needs to be understood if you ever want to advertise anything!

                  If I'm going to test $20 per tshirt and I make $10 per shirt sold... how many shirts do I want to sell in that $20 so that I continue promoting the ad?
                  Some of the questions in this thread amaze me...people want their hand held, bottle fed, etc.

                  Just think and use some common sense people! You can figure it out!
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                  • Profile picture of the author margaritovbg
                    So I came up with what I think is very good design for the fitness niche.Big image and font, nice layout.
                    I set up the campaign with $20, let it run for few hours but nothing.I targeted people who like pages such as fitness, motivation, health etc. As half of the budget was gone I deleted the campaign.
                    As I have one week for the campaign, I am considering the following. Target the low-cost countries to get the page going, as I did with my humor page. Or just target to the USA?
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                    • Profile picture of the author vanbino
                      i know, but what is happening to me is that i am selling like two hoodies for 20 dollars but then some times people stop buying

                      i do not know why
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                      • Profile picture of the author petelta
                        Originally Posted by vanbino View Post

                        i know, but what is happening to me is that i am selling like two hoodies for 20 dollars but then some times people stop buying

                        i do not know why
                        Yes sometimes this happens. This is why when $20 testing doesn't do the trick, I let it run until $50. By $50, if you're still at that undecided moment, it's probably best to drop the campaign.

                        This type of decision comes up often and it's where you'll lose most of your money in these campaigns. You'll let a campaign run to $100 and then decide it's jsut losing money and have to shut it down.

                        That's why we have a bunch going so we have winners making up for the losses.
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                    • Profile picture of the author petelta
                      Originally Posted by margaritovbg View Post

                      So I came up with what I think is very good design for the fitness niche.Big image and font, nice layout.
                      I set up the campaign with $20, let it run for few hours but nothing.I targeted people who like pages such as fitness, motivation, health etc. As half of the budget was gone I deleted the campaign.
                      As I have one week for the campaign, I am considering the following. Target the low-cost countries to get the page going, as I did with my humor page. Or just target to the USA?
                      In the fitness niche, you're not going to have success targeting such wide open interests. You should focus on building a fitness following before trying to sell shirts from scratch.

                      It's not exactly the type of niche this works well for straight from ads
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                      • Profile picture of the author margaritovbg
                        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                        In the fitness niche, you're not going to have success targeting such wide open interests. You should focus on building a fitness following before trying to sell shirts from scratch.

                        It's not exactly the type of niche this works well for straight from ads
                        So it's better to start out with just text t-shirts, are these easier to sell with newsfeed ads? And for how long do you let your campaigns run, at least when you started out? In my case, my ad was running for about one afternoon before I dropped it after half of the budget was gone. I have around $150 to play with this project, will try it few more times before giving up.
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                        • Profile picture of the author petelta
                          Originally Posted by margaritovbg View Post

                          I have around $150 to play with this project, will try it few more times before giving up.
                          I wouldn't waste your money then.

                          With proper testing, you'll end up spending at least $100 of that on just finding a campaign to continue to grow. Then when that happens, you only have $50 left to let it sell shirts. that won't be enough to sell enough shirts to be worth it.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                            First day of testing was average. I think today I'm making these changes.

                            Ads to target females and males separately
                            Changing from CPM to CPC.
                            Age moved from 16 to 18+ (saw too many younger people liking)
                            Only run ad in the late afternoon to late night.
                            Ask pages in the niche to share the link.
                            Added limited edition and made border brighter color on the ad.

                            Every niche is different and it's a challenge to figure out how to get that audience to respond to an ad. I seen it mentioned before, but this niche may be too social. People liking like crazy, but not purchasing. If that is the case, then I'll just move on to the next niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    So how are people getting around FB's new guidelines? I still see surname shirts all over the place.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      So how are people getting around FB's new guidelines? I still see surname shirts all over the place.
      Your last name custom audiences don't get disabled until your ad gets paused. SO, you can still run these last name campaigns for burst period.

      I wouldn't advise it since it's against the rules and there are plenty of other angles available. The more red flags, the worse your ad account is

      People running name campaigns still are those that have no idea how to create a real business and are scraping ever last dollar they possibly can from the system.
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Your last name custom audiences don't get disabled until your ad gets paused. SO, you can still run these last name campaigns for burst period.

        I wouldn't advise it since it's against the rules and there are plenty of other angles available. The more red flags, the worse your ad account is

        People running name campaigns still are those that have no idea how to create a real business and are scraping ever last dollar they possibly can from the system.
        Yep, I stopped using them. My daily spend went up to 5k yesterday, so I definitely don't want to have my ad account banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author sojuncoke
    Can you run a campaign without a facebook page? Because some of my designs makes no sense for a page to be linked to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sojuncoke
    Can you somehow advertise on twitter using hashtags or no?
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    • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
      Figured this Teespring thing would be a fun side thing to do. I've got a few decent design ideas to try. I launched my campaign today. Using CPM newsfeed ad with very targeted audience. The main challenge will be actually getting a decent click price. My other sites I average .30-.40 a click. Doing the math I feel it's a lost cause if that's going to be my cost. It's a fun challenge though. I feel the ones making the big bucks already have a developed audience.
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      • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
        Don't limit yourself, when I started I've created a new page and immediately promote my campaign and end of the campaign I've made $5K profit.

        Originally Posted by Wickaman View Post

        Figured this Teespring thing would be a fun side thing to do. I've got a few decent design ideas to try. I launched my campaign today. Using CPM newsfeed ad with very targeted audience. The main challenge will be actually getting a decent click price. My other sites I average .30-.40 a click. Doing the math I feel it's a lost cause if that's going to be my cost. It's a fun challenge though. I feel the ones making the big bucks already have a developed audience.
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        • Profile picture of the author hpz
          Since I've entered teespring a week ago a lot of things have happened and I decided to share it here.

          First of all, I didn't really have a big budget to start with, around 200$. I decided to go after college football niche and I had some initial succes, sold around 20 shirts, unfortunately my campaigns were slapped with copyrights claim since I used partial logo on both shirts, not much but apparently enough. Anyway, I was angry as hell seeing others do the same damn thing and profitting, and with 40$ I spend on advertising those banned campaigns I was a little discouraged. I decided to give it another try and created couple more campaigns but they all failed miserably(about 6 of them) I was on a verge of giving up. But everytime I doubted myself I would enter this thread and it gave me some much needed motivation to go on.

          Two days ago I've launched a new campaign and as usual gave it couple hours to run. After spending 9,8$ on ads I had 9 sales with 10$ profit each. Today, after spending 38,18$ on ads I have 21 sales. My profit after ad costs is around 190$ which migh not seem like a big number to some of you but for me it's big first step. As for the specifics: I'm targeting rather small group of 36k and so far I've reached around 6k so this wont sell in hundreds, however I can use the same angle on other campaigns and scale. What is really suprising is CTR, tbh its shit.
          I had around 1% CTR on the 9$ campaign a still made 81$ profit. I've splittested several images and managed to get the CTR to (not really impressive) 2.5%. I think i can still get this number higher. Stats:
          Campaign:

          Best ad so far:


          I'm using opt cmp with default bids. I've tried cpc but for some reason I get much less impressions with it, maybe its a small budget thing. Anyway, thought I would share this with you. If you've got any questions or advices I would be happy to receive both. And thanks to the guys who are actively commenting here. Some of your posts really gave the motivation and encouragement to go on.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by hpz View Post

            I'm using opt cmp with default bids. I've tried cpc but for some reason I get much less impressions with it, maybe its a small budget thing. Anyway, thought I would share this with you. If you've got any questions or advices I would be happy to receive both. And thanks to the guys who are actively commenting here. Some of your posts really gave the motivation and encouragement to go on.
            Nice job man. Yea one thing I see so many newcomers worrying about is CTR. Who gives a F$&% about CTR until you are making profit.

            For most people doing this Teespring model, they aren't sticking in one single niche... so you'll never get a real chance to improve that CTR with testing. This stuff doesn't get better over night without lucky guesses.

            I still tell all my readers CPC for ads. Facebook shows ads that get clicked and interacted with... so if you upload the exact same ad except one has CPC set and one has oCPM set, the one that will work is the one Facebook shows first.

            The problem that arises with oCPM is you have to rely on CTR to be high. You can spend $20-$50 testing without getting a single click (aka actual buying viewer to your sales page).

            With CPC, you will only pay when you get an actual interested party to visit the site.

            You're losing more money in testing when you use oCPM. Once you have a campaign take off, you start testing and using other options to see which performs the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author newbieinternet
    Great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author blueberries
    Nice, I know someone else who's doing this... My wheels are turning...
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  • Profile picture of the author reg0903
    Wow, looks your doing well on your facebook marketing, In my case I used Snake skin fashion accessories this is very rare product & best selling product ever.. I targeted my audience to germany & Uk..
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  • Profile picture of the author zoyakhatun45
    Your information are acceptable. I will try this. Your work are awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
    Well, I finally got one that's biting! 7 sold in the first 12 hours of advertising with a $20/day budget. 1.7 million in my target audience, which is also split by a custom audience of about 55,000.

    Love the stats so far and I'll be scaling up the ad amount once it tips...

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  • Profile picture of the author getnewonline
    i have 50$ ads so i will start with it and try to have some money as you did

    but i need your method if you can help me
    thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author andartecca
    very nice guide
    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author darbok
      I'm going to give this a go and see how it turns out, i"m not sure I'll do well, but it sounds like a great concept.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jiang
    Hey Travis,

    I've been struggling with Teespring for the past month and a bit. I need some guidance. I have a thread on this forum, care to check it out?

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Christoff25
    That was amazing tip. thank you so much.
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Update: CTR problem that I had was solved with UID's.


      This 7 hour campaign brought me 11 sales, 25 shares and 28 likes. So the more engaged and passionate audience the better.
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  • Profile picture of the author rajukhanrajukhan
    Nice work on Facebook adds. I am also try this. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author thequietmind2014
    amazing, i am a t-shirt designer, how can i profit from my designs?
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Start by reading this entire thread. Find a niche that people are passionate about, see if its not overcrowded already. Create awesome design(check on teeview what sells if you need inspiration or to get a feel of what people like), create campaign, create ads, target right audience, profit.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
        This is probably a dumb question... but how do I use optimized CPM. There isn't an option for it. I remember seeing it once as an option, but can't figure out now.
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        • Profile picture of the author hpz
          You can access it by through power editor. Download Chrome( if you don't use already use it) go to manage ads and select power editor from the left menu, download it and install. Through power editor you've got access to ads options unavailable with standard ad manager, including various options of opt CPM. PE might be a little confusig at the beginning but there are various free tutorials on how to use it, check youtube or google.
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          • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
            Thought I'd share this as I've finally nailed a campaign - 120 shirts sold in the last 12 hours. I had no idea how viral it would go, but I'm closing in on $1,000 profit!

            I had a oCPM ad running at $20 a day and it was working to the point of having tipped. I then added a conversion pixel to the Teespring page (contact Teespring customer service and ask them to give you pixel access - they did it for me the same day) and also created a new ad using a custom audience and optimized for Website Conversions. That's when it started to go nuts and gave me this kind of stat line:



            Not to mention, the post has 798 likes and 56 comments...mostly of people tagging their friends telling them to get it.

            Amazing, really. First one in about 10 that's gone off, but it CAN happen.
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            • Profile picture of the author hpz
              Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

              Thought I'd share this as I've finally nailed a campaign - 120 shirts sold in the last 12 hours. I had no idea how viral it would go, but I'm closing in on $1,000 profit!

              I had a oCPM ad running at $20 a day and it was working to the point of having tipped. I then added a conversion pixel to the Teespring page (contact Teespring customer service and ask them to give you pixel access - they did it for me the same day) and also created a new ad using a custom audience and optimized for Website Conversions. That's when it started to go nuts and gave me this kind of stat line:



              Not to mention, the post has 798 likes and 56 comments...mostly of people tagging their friends telling them to get it.

              Amazing, really. First one in about 10 that's gone off, but it CAN happen.
              Have you used default oCPM?
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              • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
                Originally Posted by hpz View Post

                Have you used default oCPM?
                Yep, always
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            • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
              Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

              Thought I'd share this as I've finally nailed a campaign - 120 shirts sold in the last 12 hours. I had no idea how viral it would go, but I'm closing in on $1,000 profit!

              I had a oCPM ad running at $20 a day and it was working to the point of having tipped. I then added a conversion pixel to the Teespring page (contact Teespring customer service and ask them to give you pixel access - they did it for me the same day) and also created a new ad using a custom audience and optimized for Website Conversions. That's when it started to go nuts and gave me this kind of stat line:

              Not to mention, the post has 798 likes and 56 comments...mostly of people tagging their friends telling them to get it.

              Amazing, really. First one in about 10 that's gone off, but it CAN happen.
              Great job MarinerdMike! Congrats!

              Is this the sports niche by chance?

              Wish you many more sales buddy!
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              • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
                Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

                Great job MarinerdMike! Congrats!

                Is this the sports niche by chance?

                Wish you many more sales buddy!
                Thanks mate...no, not the sports niche. I've had a few failures with sports T's; seems to be a competitive market.
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            • Profile picture of the author Saintsfan40
              Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

              Thought I'd share this as I've finally nailed a campaign - 120 shirts sold in the last 12 hours. I had no idea how viral it would go, but I'm closing in on $1,000 profit!

              I had a oCPM ad running at $20 a day and it was working to the point of having tipped. I then added a conversion pixel to the Teespring page (contact Teespring customer service and ask them to give you pixel access - they did it for me the same day) and also created a new ad using a custom audience and optimized for Website Conversions. That's when it started to go nuts and gave me this kind of stat line:



              Not to mention, the post has 798 likes and 56 comments...mostly of people tagging their friends telling them to get it.

              Amazing, really. First one in about 10 that's gone off, but it CAN happen.
              Congrats on your success Mike! When you targeted your custom audience with your fan page, did you already have a lot of fans already established on your fan page or was it a brand new fan page with minimal to no fans when you launched your campaign?
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        • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
          Originally Posted by Wickaman View Post

          This is probably a dumb question... but how do I use optimized CPM. There isn't an option for it. I remember seeing it once as an option, but can't figure out now.
          Thanks. I was in power editor before, don't see how I missed it.

          So do you guys use the "shop now" call to action option on your ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author tismi
    excellent job MarinerdMike! I am also on a good way with current campaign, spent 15€ and got 6 conversions, not nearly as good conversion rate as yours, but I am looking at 100%+ ROI, so far so good .
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Originally Posted by tismi View Post

      excellent job MarinerdMike! I am also on a good way with current campaign, spent 15€ and got 6 conversions, not nearly as good conversion rate as yours, but I am looking at 100%+ ROI, so far so good .
      Seriously in normal business anything above 3% ROI would be considered succesful, and we're not satisfied with 100%+ haha
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    Well Done!
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    So I found a platform where I can crowd fund any item i like. I was thinking running adds for specific items let's says mobile back up battery banks or wallets belts basically any item. Once it tilts order the product wholesale with the funds generated from the campaign and then ship. Any flaws in this idea?
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    I just started my first campgain on facebook today with a german slogan and a good targeted audience. I set 30$ per day just to see how it works.

    Anyway, where do you buy the designs for the t-shirts? I created the first one by myself. But i guess its better to invest 10$ for a better one.

    Best
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by UnknownIdentity View Post

      I just started my first campgain on facebook today with a german slogan and a good targeted audience. I set 30$ per day just to see how it works.

      Anyway, where do you buy the designs for the t-shirts? I created the first one by myself. But i guess its better to invest 10$ for a better one.

      Best
      you can find artists on Fiverr that do pretty good work. You can always use Elance as well to find graphic designer.
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      • Profile picture of the author hpz
        Be careful with fiverr, some of the designs i bought there from high rated buyer were awful.
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        • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
          Question about newsfeed CPC ads. When someone likes your ad or page are you charged? I'm assuming you would be. I'm also not seeing why it would be better than CPM. What if someone likes your ad and then clicks through to the website... would you be charged twice?

          I currently have 180 clicks and 53 website clicks with $21.50 spent with three conversions. If I'm understanding CPC right, it would cost a boatload more than CPM.

          Also do you typically see a higher conversion rate towards the end of the campaign or as it gets closer to meeting the sales goal?
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    How long does it usually take for a conversion to appear in the FB ads manager? Is it 24 hours? Or immediate?
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    • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      How long does it usually take for a conversion to appear in the FB ads manager? Is it 24 hours? Or immediate?
      Conversions don't appear immediately, but they're within a few minutes (maybe 10?).


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  • Profile picture of the author MotleyOne
    Thank you for sharing! I've read a lot about it and will certainly give it a try!

    MO
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  • Profile picture of the author Joi
    Petelta, thanks for the great thread. This is the first online sales idea that I felt I could be successful with, and with your tips I was able to get started. Much appreciated.

    So far I've created 3 campaigns. One got a 2% CTR, but after 40 clicks and no sales I stopped the ad. The other two did worse. 1% click through and no orders, and the other wasn't shown at all by FB (it was active, just did not get displayed).

    To try and do better with the next campaigns, I'm wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of resources, guides etc that helped you? I'm particularly unsure about the facebook marketing aspect of things. I think my ad copy and teespring campaign copy may be part of my problem, and I'm not sure what the best tools are for custom ID gathering.

    On the subject of custom audiences, people seem to still be managing to sell the Name and Age shirts. If someone hows how that is being done that you'd be willing to share I'd appreciate it.

    I really need to make this successful. If I can make even a few thousand a month I could quit my job, and I can't express enough how much I really need to quit. My job is giving me anxiety issues, triggering nervous shakes and headaches. (Work in general is not an issue, it's this job and my boss. I have health issues that make it difficult to work outside of my home, and for the kind of work I do there aren't a lot of other places to go to and they pay less, so can't just move on.)

    I'd be happy to try and return the favour however I can (I'm an artist, so image editing comes to mind, but I can also edit video and audio, and I've got experience with coaching for customer service and sales over the phone).
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Joi View Post

      Petelta, thanks for the great thread. This is the first online sales idea that I felt I could be successful with, and with your tips I was able to get started. Much appreciated.

      So far I've created 3 campaigns. One got a 2% CTR, but after 40 clicks and no sales I stopped the ad. The other two did worse. 1% click through and no orders, and the other wasn't shown at all by FB (it was active, just did not get displayed).

      To try and do better with the next campaigns, I'm wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of resources, guides etc that helped you? I'm particularly unsure about the facebook marketing aspect of things. I think my ad copy and teespring campaign copy may be part of my problem, and I'm not sure what the best tools are for custom ID gathering.

      On the subject of custom audiences, people seem to still be managing to sell the Name and Age shirts. If someone hows how that is being done that you'd be willing to share I'd appreciate it.

      I really need to make this successful. If I can make even a few thousand a month I could quit my job, and I can't express enough how much I really need to quit. My job is giving me anxiety issues, triggering nervous shakes and headaches. (Work in general is not an issue, it's this job and my boss. I have health issues that make it difficult to work outside of my home, and for the kind of work I do there aren't a lot of other places to go to and they pay less, so can't just move on.)

      I'd be happy to try and return the favour however I can (I'm an artist, so image editing comes to mind, but I can also edit video and audio, and I've got experience with coaching for customer service and sales over the phone).
      Hey Joi

      Glad you've started with Facebook marketing. You'll figure it out soon enough as long as you stick to it.

      here are some great resources that might help with your social marketing. I follow each of these people and some of them have become close friends...

      Don Wilson - Facebook ad king
      Tanner Larsson - Facebook, Offline, Business Strategy
      Br. Ben Adkins - Offline, Facebook
      Chris Ramsey - Facebook, Sales Strategy

      the name campaigns are still giong with some because FB can't tell you're targeting the same last name until the ad has run. So, when you pause or stop a campaign, you'll notice the custom audiences targeting names only will be disabled.
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  • Profile picture of the author JimmySolis
    Quick question:
    Which one of these are you guys doing below?

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  • Profile picture of the author hpz
    Either conversions if you're using fb tracking pixel or clicks to website
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    • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
      Originally Posted by hpz View Post

      Either conversions if you're using fb tracking pixel or clicks to website
      The tracking pixel was not verified. I'm assuming this is not a problem and it will be verified when someone makes a purchase? Unless there is another way to access the checkout page? Should I just run the ad with an unverified tracking pixel?

      Also, say if I have a goal set to sell 10 shirts that cost $15 per shirt and I end up selling 100... will that scale up my profit per shirt at all or am I stuck in the 10 shirt tier?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich77sm
    FOR THE RECORD, i emailed them and asked them this^. (ive always loved the tshirt design idea... who hasnt)
    they said that if you set it to 10 and you sell a 100, they will drop the price to the 100, BUT they keep 25% of that drop.
    i know i will need to make this more clear for a lot of you..
    EXAMPLE
    10 shirts cost you $11.00
    100 shirts cost you $7.00
    you set your campaign for 10 but you sell 100.
    you will get the 7.00 price which is a 4.00 difference. they will keep 25% of that difference, so you will get $3 more. i really think this is a good idea, specially for beginners.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
      Originally Posted by Rich77sm View Post

      FOR THE RECORD, i emailed them and asked them this^. (ive always loved the tshirt design idea... who hasnt)
      they said that if you set it to 10 and you sell a 100, they will drop the price to the 100, BUT they keep 25% of that drop.
      i know i will need to make this more clear for a lot of you..
      EXAMPLE
      10 shirts cost you $11.00
      100 shirts cost you $7.00
      you set your campaign for 10 but you sell 100.
      you will get the 7.00 price which is a 4.00 difference. they will keep 25% of that difference, so you will get $3 more. i really think this is a good idea, specially for beginners.
      That is fair in my opinion. There are a couple strategies you could take. Set your goal at 10 to help ensure you get paid. You could also set your goal higher, then request a drop if the shirts aren't selling fast enough to meet your goal.

      I'm really impressed they're so flexible. Anyone ever been refused when asked for a goal decrease?
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      • Profile picture of the author hpz
        Nah, unless you're trying to drop below 10.
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        • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
          Does anyone know what happens if your goal hits the minimum, say 20/20, but then someone cancels their order bringing you back to 19/20 sold and you don't sell any more shirts?
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by 19rl75 View Post

            Does anyone know what happens if your goal hits the minimum, say 20/20, but then someone cancels their order bringing you back to 19/20 sold and you don't sell any more shirts?
            you still get the money. As long as it tips, you're good. If they refund right before someone was to buy #20, you wouldn't get credit though.

            When it's that clsoe, don't be afraid to buy one yourself. They can be used for future contests and giveaways.
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          • Profile picture of the author dtul
            Originally Posted by 19rl75 View Post

            Does anyone know what happens if your goal hits the minimum, say 20/20, but then someone cancels their order bringing you back to 19/20 sold and you don't sell any more shirts?
            I'm pretty sure they still print it. I wouldn't be worried though, if you've sold some, you'll sell some more to get over 20 again.
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            • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
              Here's a question: I have a shirt that's sold 6 so far at the cost of about $50 ad spend so far. I think I'm making about $8 or so per shirt, so it's right on about break even. Would you let it ride for a bit longer, or ramp up the ad spend?

              The frustrating thing is that the post has over 600 likes and a bucketload of desirable comments, shares, and tags...it's just not converting like the last one (which just made Teespring's 'discover' page )
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              • Profile picture of the author hpz
                Maybe you went too far with the price?
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              • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
                Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

                Here's a question: I have a shirt that's sold 6 so far at the cost of about $50 ad spend so far. I think I'm making about $8 or so per shirt, so it's right on about break even. Would you let it ride for a bit longer, or ramp up the ad spend?

                The frustrating thing is that the post has over 600 likes and a bucketload of desirable comments, shares, and tags...it's just not converting like the last one (which just made Teespring's 'discover' page )
                If you are using CPC try oCPM.
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              • Profile picture of the author HiTom
                Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

                Here's a question: I have a shirt that's sold 6 so far at the cost of about $50 ad spend so far. I think I'm making about $8 or so per shirt, so it's right on about break even. Would you let it ride for a bit longer, or ramp up the ad spend?

                The frustrating thing is that the post has over 600 likes and a bucketload of desirable comments, shares, and tags...it's just not converting like the last one (which just made Teespring's 'discover' page )
                Hi Mike,

                Are you promoting your new shirt on the same page you did with the previous one? Maybe buyers you hit the first time don't want to buy again right now.
                Or are you targeting new people wit ads?
                You are just 4 sales away to actually have shirts printed, so I'd try to reach the 10 sales at least so you keep everyone happy even if you just break even.

                Also what are your reports saying? Again if you're targeting the same audience, and you had your conversion pixel added to your previous campaign, you should be able to see what group of people who converted the most. And you may target them only.

                I saw your results on your previous campaign and your datas are amazing, may I contact you about this? Congrats getting on the discover page I've been succesful with all my campaigns so far, but have not seen the kind of CTR you or Travis have shown. Though using custom audience, I guess I should refine even more.
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                • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                  I can tell you so far from my experience it's fine to break even if you're building a fan page based around the shirt. Free targeted likes? Yes please.

                  My campaign has been tricky. Starting out I sold two shirts after only $5 spent. I felt really good about those results and upped my ad spending. It slowed way down. Now 13 shirts sold after $125 spent. Slight loss currently. The shirt has 1.2k likes, tons of shares, and tagging galore. I really expected more sales, but I'm fine with it because my fan page has grown a huge amount in the process.

                  I've cut back on the ads and I plan on making one last push Saturday and Sunday just to test how the ads perform on the final days. I still have a super targeted email list of 300 to send to as well. I assume most sales would come on the final day and hours of the campaign?

                  Also I noticed after I hit my sell 10 goal I got 3 sales on about $12 spent. This leads me to believe that people are more willing to buy if the goal is already met.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
                    Good point about people buying after it's tipped. I wonder if that's Teespring's version of social proof?

                    I initially was greedy and set the bar at 50 for this campaign - it was so similar, yet to a completely different audience that I thought it would be a copy & paste kind of gig. Lesson learned! I since lowered it to 15 and will kick up the ad spend from $15/day to $25 for the next two days (I worked it out: if it tips, I pretty much break even) because I'm still bullish on it. I'll be curious if/when it tips whether it begins to take off a bit.

                    Also, it's oCPM...I always go with that, although I've had FB burn through a $20 test run in about an hour on a few occasions.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kronom
                Seriously Mike, you have got to show us the ad you have there....

                I would not call it a break even if you just potentially gained 600 new customers, to whom you can post other shirts via fan page :-)


                Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

                Here's a question: I have a shirt that's sold 6 so far at the cost of about $50 ad spend so far. I think I'm making about $8 or so per shirt, so it's right on about break even. Would you let it ride for a bit longer, or ramp up the ad spend?

                The frustrating thing is that the post has over 600 likes and a bucketload of desirable comments, shares, and tags...it's just not converting like the last one (which just made Teespring's 'discover' page )
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                • Profile picture of the author hpz
                  Is there a way to check who exactly liked your page on teespring, I mean theres a like button on every campaign that is not connected to fanpage or anything, how to find out who clicked it?
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                • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
                  Originally Posted by Kronom View Post

                  Seriously Mike, you have got to show us the ad you have there....

                  I would not call it a break even if you just potentially gained 600 new customers, to whom you can post other shirts via fan page :-)
                  The shirts I'm doing are not really translatable across niches, so posting other ideas to the fan page probably isn't going to work.

                  That said, the campaign in question has just tipped and seems to be gaining a head of steam. Don't think it'll reach these heights, but at least it's gonna return a profit!

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                  • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                    Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

                    The shirts I'm doing are not really translatable across niches, so posting other ideas to the fan page probably isn't going to work.

                    That said, the campaign in question has just tipped and seems to be gaining a head of steam. Don't think it'll reach these heights, but at least it's gonna return a profit!

                    Good job. My campaign just ended and I made $50 after paying for ads I'll keep tweaking and try again.
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              • Profile picture of the author caridimondo
                Originally Posted by MarinerdMike View Post

                Here's a question: I have a shirt that's sold 6 so far at the cost of about $50 ad spend so far. I think I'm making about $8 or so per shirt, so it's right on about break even. Would you let it ride for a bit longer, or ramp up the ad spend?

                The frustrating thing is that the post has over 600 likes and a bucketload of desirable comments, shares, and tags...it's just not converting like the last one (which just made Teespring's 'discover' page )
                Hi Mike, and everyone, this is my first post on the forum but I've been reading through all your super helpful threads. So thank you!

                I am in a very similar situation to Mike, but probably worse off because my shirt's base cost is pretty high (printed on front & back). With a very targeted scraped list of 50k people globally, I sold 6 shirts in the first 24 hours spending close to $30.00 in newsfeed ads using oCPM and 6 variations of the ad (4 have pics of the t-shirt, 2 show the hoodie option). But over the past 2 days, I haven't made 1 more sale but I've spent close to $65 in ad costs. I have close to 500 likes on my page that had zero 3 days ago and over 580 likes and multiple shares on the best performing ad. But because my profit margin is so low, I'm in the red right now.



                The data says 5 conversions, but 1 person must have purchased after seeing my ad shared by a friend. So..would you guys kill it? I'm hesitant because I think this niche is really passionate based on the interaction I'm getting, but I stopped converting after the first day. My campaign ends on Sunday so I'm thinking about pausing the ads until the last 2 days and changing up the ad copy.

                Sorry for jacking the thread but I appreciate your thoughts!!
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                • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                  Originally Posted by caridimondo View Post

                  Hi Mike, and everyone, this is my first post on the forum but I've been reading through all your super helpful threads. So thank you!

                  I am in a very similar situation to Mike, but probably worse off because my shirt's base cost is pretty high (printed on front & back). With a very targeted scraped list of 50k people globally, I sold 6 shirts in the first 24 hours spending close to $30.00 in newsfeed ads using oCPM and 6 variations of the ad (4 have pics of the t-shirt, 2 show the hoodie option). But over the past 2 days, I haven't made 1 more sale but I've spent close to $65 in ad costs. I have close to 500 likes on my page that had zero 3 days ago and over 580 likes and multiple shares on the best performing ad. But because my profit margin is so low, I'm in the red right now.



                  The data says 5 conversions, but 1 person must have purchased after seeing my ad shared by a friend. So..would you guys kill it? I'm hesitant because I think this niche is really passionate based on the interaction I'm getting, but I stopped converting after the first day. My campaign ends on Sunday so I'm thinking about pausing the ads until the last 2 days and changing up the ad copy.

                  Sorry for jacking the thread but I appreciate your thoughts!!
                  I wouldn't kill it yet. I'm having the same issues. My first campaign started out that way and then picked up toward the end after I hit my goal. The two I'm in now started strong as well and has since faded. It's really frustrating because people are interested and buying, but the ads just cost too much to make profit. Kind of disheartening to sell a 100 shirts for break even profits. It takes a really good shirt design and a great audience to pass the break even point.
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                  • Profile picture of the author caridimondo
                    Thanks for your response! Yeah, I think I'm going to stick it out but put the ads on hold for a day or 2. I just bought 3 shirts myself so I'm at 9/10 sold, hopefully I can Jedi mind trick people into thinking it's selling they'll follow suit. My design isn't the best, but it's not a simple text-only and as a fan of this niche myself, I like it. But hey, I could be biased because it's mine.

                    Another question: my target includes a lot of international people, do you think I should drill it down to US only? Out of the 6 that purchased I'm not sure where they're from, but I doubt people overseas want to pay the shipping cost.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                      Originally Posted by caridimondo View Post

                      Thanks for your response! Yeah, I think I'm going to stick it out but put the ads on hold for a day or 2. I just bought 3 shirts myself so I'm at 9/10 sold, hopefully I can Jedi mind trick people into thinking it's selling they'll follow suit. My design isn't the best, but it's not a simple text-only and as a fan of this niche myself, I like it. But hey, I could be biased because it's mine.

                      Another question: my target includes a lot of international people, do you think I should drill it down to US only? Out of the 6 that purchased I'm not sure where they're from, but I doubt people overseas want to pay the shipping cost.
                      I always target United States only with Teespring. Also, a lot of people say it's bad to pause your ads during the day, but I find running the newsfeed CPM ads only in the evening gives me a much better conversion rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
    Can anyone tell me how long it takes from campaign ending to receiving the shirts? 4-6 days, 6-8 days, 10+ days?
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    • Profile picture of the author HiTom
      Originally Posted by 19rl75 View Post

      Can anyone tell me how long it takes from campaign ending to receiving the shirts? 4-6 days, 6-8 days, 10+ days?
      It's written in the FAQ on About Teespring / FAQ | Teespring, it will depend on where customers live.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonogunn
    I had up and downs with my t-shirt. It was ok to start...then slow...then all of a sudden i hit my goal! but after that there's only been 2 sales over the lasty 3 days despite my goal being reached already.

    fb ad frequency is at 2.1 so it may just be because I've exhausted my goal.

    But for my other t-shirt I definitely made TONS of sales after it hit 15/15 so ya, it most likely is social proof.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
      Originally Posted by jonogunn View Post

      But for my other t-shirt I definitely made TONS of sales after it hit 15/15 so ya, it most likely is social proof.
      I'm really believing meeting your goal helps a lot. It's tempting to buy enough shirts to reach my goals and then cancel the orders later... I doubt Teespring would allow that to happen for long though.

      I'm currently not running any paid ads, and I got two more sales. Maybe people who didn't want to buy because the goal wasn't hit before? Of course it could just be people sharing it...

      I also want to test desktop only oCPM newsfeed ads. I feel a lot of clicks come from mobile, but not as many sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    I love Facebook Marketing but taking a pass at "t-shirt" business, there are bigger fish to fry. Also....watch out over your shoulder for Instagram.
    I know Facebook owns them but very different platform and seen many people that got sick of seeing Marketing Ads and getting invited to Events moving to IG.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rich77sm
      yes for the younger. i have seen the younger crowd vacate FB recently. tumbler and IG. however, the older crowd isnt going anywhere. i cant imagine our grandparents learning another platform after they finally figured out FB (if they barely have by now)


      Originally Posted by sdentrepreneur View Post

      I love Facebook Marketing but taking a pass at "t-shirt" business, there are bigger fish to fry. Also....watch out over your shoulder for Instagram.
      I know Facebook owns them but very different platform and seen many people that got sick of seeing Marketing Ads and getting invited to Events moving to IG.
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  • Profile picture of the author darbok
    I didn't let it go long at all, I don't have a lot of money to put into it, but I figure after 50 clicks and no sales, that should tell me something, maybe it doesn't but with such a small budget as I have, I couldn't let it go a hundred, two hundred dollars.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateRg
    Hi. I was wondering if the images for the Facebook ads we available from teespring, or if you could create them yourself.

    Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by AffiliateRg View Post

      Hi. I was wondering if the images for the Facebook ads we available from teespring, or if you could create them yourself.

      Regards
      Whenever you create your Facebook ad, you will add the link to your Teespring campaign page. Once you do that Facebook will upload an image of your shirt from the page, but just one. If you want to you can use that for your ad, but you're much better off creating your own creative and going with that instead,.
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    Thanks for the helpful information!
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  • Profile picture of the author takep89
    im at 4 tshirt sold, spend $16 CTR 2.2 website clicks 150 reach 6700. is this good or should i drop it? btw im using page post engagement
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Well, if you're making 10$ on a shirt than that's an easy math. 40-16=24 profit
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      • Profile picture of the author oldrover
        I'm still learning on this with no success. But plugging away. :-)

        Question: when you run newsfeed ads, you are charged BOTH for clicks to the website AND for 'likes' and other actions, correct? Is there a way to ONLY get charged for clicks to the website?

        Thanks... great thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author 66gto
    Well Teespring stopped one of my shirts. It was selling well too. No explanation of course why they shirt was stopped, just that it was a "trademark infringement". That is crap, I design the shirt myself and had no logo or anything. Their support is bad and I have tried calling 3 or 4 times and just keep being asked to leave a voicemail. When you email them expect to hear back in 3 or 4 days, if you're lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author dtul
      Originally Posted by 66gto View Post

      Well Teespring stopped one of my shirts. It was selling well too. No explanation of course why they shirt was stopped, just that it was a "trademark infringement". That is crap, I design the shirt myself and had no logo or anything. Their support is bad and I have tried calling 3 or 4 times and just keep being asked to leave a voicemail. When you email them expect to hear back in 3 or 4 days, if you're lucky.
      Well obviously someone felt that you were infringing on their trademark and had evidence to back it up. You may have thought you came up with something, but some people trademark the most obscure things and you may have run afoul of them. I'd always check for existing trademarks for any design idea that you have. Had you sold your goal and if you did were you able to keep the sales you had already made?
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  • Profile picture of the author junkdna
    @petelta

    How are you managing to create 10 to 15 designs per day? At my best I can do maybe 1 or 2.

    - Do you just do text only designs, to cut the time on searching graphics?
    - Do you try designs you are less than 100% happy with?
    - When do you stop analyzing and move on on the next idea?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by junkdna View Post

      @petelta

      How are you managing to create 10 to 15 designs per day? At my best I can do maybe 1 or 2.

      - Do you just do text only designs, to cut the time on searching graphics?
      - Do you try designs you are less than 100% happy with?
      - When do you stop analyzing and move on on the next idea?
      - I have a designer that I get to do most of my graphics. A lot of my shirts are only text quotes too. So, those are simple to do.

      - I've put up crappy designs I've done myself, but they typically don't sell. So, find someone who can do it if you can't deliver quality designs. Most campaigns last about 4 hours and then are shut down. We only run the ones that work and sometimes it's an ugly ass shirt.

      - When it comes to teespring, it's an every day thing pretty much. that's the problem with the model I shared with you guys. You aren't setting up any long term assets going from niche to niche and buzz to buzz.

      I don't do Teespring much anymore because I've set up drop shipping for my best designs in the niches I've grown an active following in. I use teespring to test out new designs or if I see a hot topic I think I can make a quick few K from
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      • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        - I have a designer that I get to do most of my graphics. A lot of my shirts are only text quotes too. So, those are simple to do.

        - I've put up crappy designs I've done myself, but they typically don't sell. So, find someone who can do it if you can't deliver quality designs. Most campaigns last about 4 hours and then are shut down. We only run the ones that work and sometimes it's an ugly ass shirt.

        - When it comes to teespring, it's an every day thing pretty much. that's the problem with the model I shared with you guys. You aren't setting up any long term assets going from niche to niche and buzz to buzz.

        I don't do Teespring much anymore because I've set up drop shipping for my best designs in the niches I've grown an active following in. I use teespring to test out new designs or if I see a hot topic I think I can make a quick few K from
        That's something I'm working on now. I found a local printer, and I was surprised, but they were able to match TeeSpring on pricing. I don't know why I had the assumption they wouldn't be able to, but that was just my feeling (having never asked a single printer).
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        • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
          Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

          That's something I'm working on now. I found a local printer, and I was surprised, but they were able to match TeeSpring on pricing. I don't know why I had the assumption they wouldn't be able to, but that was just my feeling (having never asked a single printer).
          Exactly... I think you can use the teespring model, facebook advertising and a tshirt website of your own. Anybody can PM me for more information on setting this up for practically nothing. And you don't need a local printer either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Jiang
    @victordpeter

    I believe he was selling hoodies, not specifically t shirts. The profit margin is typically $13-$19 per hoodie depending on how you price it, so his math does add up.
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    • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
      Originally Posted by Bryan Jiang View Post

      @victordpeter

      I believe he was selling hoodies, not specifically t shirts. The profit margin is typically $13-$19 per hoodie depending on how you price it, so his math does add up.
      Then why is it every picture of proof is showing a t-shirt?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Hey all, sorry I havn't been around. Been in hospital again! Travis I need to catch up with you and get that cash over

    Seems the name gigs are still going, one guy "Thomas Bartke" seems to still be doing a shitload of them. No doubt the reports and inside info suggests they are watching and even speculation of a lawsuit. Interesting!

    I have kicked off a few new niches and they are going well!
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    • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Hey all, sorry I havn't been around. Been in hospital again! Travis I need to catch up with you and get that cash over

      Seems the name gigs are still going, one guy "Thomas Bartke" seems to still be doing a shitload of them. No doubt the reports and inside info suggests they are watching and even speculation of a lawsuit. Interesting!

      I have kicked off a few new niches and they are going well!
      Can you elaborate on the underlined? PM me if you like. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Vicord, if you'd had no success, don't come in here knocking us guys who kick ass on teespring
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    • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Vicord, if you'd had no success, don't come in here knocking us guys who kick ass on teespring
      I am not knocking anybody. I am suggesting that people do the math and see if the claim can be legit. Reviewing the first post, indicated he sells t-shirts for mostly 19.99. His words, not mine. So including the $15.36 profit to this price, does not add up. Not on my calculator anyways.

      I sell t-shirts on-line. That is what I do. And have been making a living at it for several years.

      I think that niche facebook advertising is a great idea. Came here to learn about it. Teespring offers good, quick money for targetted niches and if you get it right, your roi is very good.

      But I didn't fall off the turnip cart yesterday. The numbers don't add up, no matter how you slice the turnip.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    That's simply because with multiple styles and different campaign targets the total sales sums can be significantly different.
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    • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      That's simply because with multiple styles and different campaign targets the total sales sums can be significantly different.
      You only have one goal per campaign and the product is marked up the same for each style. In any event, I am sure there have been good teespring and facebook advertisement lessons learned along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
    You can not see the exact earnings until the end of the campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author airwolfe777
    This is a great post! I admire your willingness to share! One question - can you or cant you have your facebook ad link directly to TeeSpring with no "middle man" or "landing page"? Can they click the ad and go straight to check out? Thanks -- Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author K40water
    Hi Petelta,

    I am a bit of a noob with this teespring + Facebook combination. I have about six shirts that I put on facebook. I also made a fan page for one of the shirts and have about 1300 people who liked it. I am still a bit unclear on how you make sales on the fan page. I've been responding to some of their posts, and put my shirt in one of the posts, but I still haven't had more than 5 click through, and zero sales. I don't understand what I'm missing.

    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author hpz
    Hey petelta you ever had issue with Teespring timing? I mean I recently ended a campaing which according to teespring clock should've ended at 11 pm pst instead it ended at 8. Since the last hours of campaing always brings me a lot of sales I'm pissed because instead I have 6 angry customers who saw my ads and were willing to buy but couldn't. Anyhow, do all teespring campaings end at 8 pm or was it just a bug?
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  • Profile picture of the author gamer90
    Thanks for the info buddy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lemonzer
    thanks ! Great jobs and result. Is it teespring tshirt ? Or your own ?
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmythe
    What's a good CTR to see in CPC where you would see a real drop in costs...like 1-5 cents per click?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    @victordpeter...

    I, too, was skeptical originally. However, I was able to identify all of OP's original listings way back when this thread started. I even PM'd him to let him know that he didn't do a good enough job of obscuring them. The campaigns were legit.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsk13
    Yo man, doubt all you want. But he is the one rolling in cash from selling T-SHIRTS online... one product that is so much harder to scale compared to other CPA products.

    I started a thread last week labeled "Made over $1,000 in 1 week" on the CPA, you can see it yourself. Compare to OP my earning is NOTHING. But that was my first 10 tries at it and earned $1,300 while spending $300.

    It works, it's just hard. I tested maybe 20 to 30 ads and failed them ALL, learning more and more as I went from each failed ad before I really know how it all works.

    Still learning, but you just gonna stop doubting and start doing. The time it takes you to type all that negative stuff you probably coulda set up 5 campaigns and made some money already!
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    Great stuff my man! It's definitely about targeting... get that right with the right design and you're golden... of course, not all campaigns work out, but when they do, you're in profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    So I just got my 5K daily FB advertising Limit. Petelta, get back in touch on the skype mate! Time to get super busy and scale this up big big big time
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Welcome to our level..

      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      So I just got my 5K daily FB advertising Limit. Petelta, get back in touch on the skype mate! Time to get super busy and scale this up big big big time
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        Welcome to our level..
        Thanks only took 17K in advertising haha! Sometimes I still have to pick my balls up when I see the receipts but the ROI is worth it
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

          Thanks only took 17K in advertising haha! Sometimes I still have to pick my balls up when I see the receipts but the ROI is worth it
          HAHA, i know the feeling man. I think I spent a total of $20k last year on advertising my business... I've spent more than $20k in a week with Teespring lol.
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    Wow! Tempting I must say
    Nice one.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarah23
    Wow, your results are very impressive.
    Well done
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    • Profile picture of the author mediamash
      Hi

      I have read all the posts (both good and bad...lol)

      I have had 3 campaigns tip... all in all about a $1000 profit

      The question i have is a simple one i hope:

      Which is better a few pence over CPC or OCPM?

      My daily budget at the moment is about $60...

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by mediamash View Post

        Hi

        I have read all the posts (both good and bad...lol)

        I have had 3 campaigns tip... all in all about a $1000 profit

        The question i have is a simple one i hope:

        Which is better a few pence over CPC or OCPM?

        My daily budget at the moment is about $60...

        Thanks
        MM
        I CPC every time. Some people do it differently. When you have a winning design, the right audience, and a decent ad, it won't matter. The people will click and buy.
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        • Profile picture of the author mediamash
          Hi

          Is there anyway I can email you or skype you the ad and the copy and see if you think its strong enough?

          Just a simple yes or no.. i'm not expecting you to coach me.. lol
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        • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I CPC every time. Some people do it differently. When you have a winning design, the right audience, and a decent ad, it won't matter. The people will click and buy.
          I've allways had that dilema, but add to that optimize for conversions, I am doing that now, sometimes in the 2nd and 3rd day the CTR drops very quickly...
          what do you do when that happens?

          You use CPC over conversions?
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          • Profile picture of the author hpz
            Well in cpc you pay not only for clicks to website but also for likes, share etc. I recently had campaign with about 300 various clicks but only 90 of them were to website. If I have used cpc I would use up by budget in no time. That's why I use ocpm.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

            I've allways had that dilema, but add to that optimize for conversions, I am doing that now, sometimes in the 2nd and 3rd day the CTR drops very quickly...
            what do you do when that happens?
            This is how most ads will pan out. You get 4-7 days of solid CTRs, cost per clicks, etc... then they start to level out and numbers drop.

            For teespring campaigns, I run them 7 days... so we have the initial ad pop out... if it does well at the $20 test run, we pump up the daily budget to $500/day and let it rock. After about 4 days, the add isn't getting much reach or the cost per sale is not going well anymore... so I pause the ad and don't do ads to the campaign day 5 and 6... then on day 7 I release a new ad that says LAST DAY AVAILABLE... and that gets the kick going again. When you do it right, your last 24 hours will sell more shirts than the initial 6 days.

            I do CPC always. You do pay for the likes, comments, shares on the post... but that's another important tell to a winning campaign. If you have an ad that's getting a bunch of likes and shares, but no sales... then you are just hitting the niche with the wrong angle or not the right design.

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            • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
              Originally Posted by petelta View Post

              This is how most ads will pan out. You get 4-7 days of solid CTRs, cost per clicks, etc... then they start to level out and numbers drop.

              For teespring campaigns, I run them 7 days... so we have the initial ad pop out... if it does well at the $20 test run, we pump up the daily budget to $500/day and let it rock. After about 4 days, the add isn't getting much reach or the cost per sale is not going well anymore... so I pause the ad and don't do ads to the campaign day 5 and 6... then on day 7 I release a new ad that says LAST DAY AVAILABLE... and that gets the kick going again. When you do it right, your last 24 hours will sell more shirts than the initial 6 days.

              I do CPC always. You do pay for the likes, comments, shares on the post... but that's another important tell to a winning campaign. If you have an ad that's getting a bunch of likes and shares, but no sales... then you are just hitting the niche with the wrong angle or not the right design.

              Travis
              Gold information. This is my experience too. The fact is it takes money to get used to understanding how and if the ad is going to work. Once you know what to look for you can tell if a shirt will sell.

              I'll throw this out there too. When I design a shirt I choose 4 design variants. Then I show it to 30 friends and have them pick the one they like best. I find this has improved my results. 30 is not much of a sample, but I had one choice nobody picked and I was about to use that one. Good thing I had that feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediamash
    I didn't realise that.. so the best idea is just to pump some more into the daily budget? I'm getting 2/3 sales for every 30-50 clicks...

    If i have an targeted custom audience of say 60,000 - how much $$ will it take to get my ad to be seen by most of them, i'm interested in how that bit works.. so far i have an ad reach of about 1,600
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    awesome, awesome, awesome. You hit the sweet spot. Now keep it going and learn, learn, learn and make a sh*t load of money!
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  • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
    See, this is the thread I've been looking for!

    I'm with Teespring too. I'm a professional cartoonist
    and I can do kick butt tee designs. Problem is I needed
    to know how to do Facebook ads and work on targeted
    traffic. The learning curve is there so I'll eventually
    succeed.

    Tips like this RULE!
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Originally Posted by EvolBaby View Post

      See, this is the thread I've been looking for!

      I'm with Teespring too. I'm a professional cartoonist
      and I can do kick butt tee designs. Problem is I needed
      to know how to do Facebook ads and work on targeted
      traffic. The learning curve is there so I'll eventually
      succeed.

      Tips like this RULE!
      Perfect fit with teespring
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpaintingnow
    I'm a professional art instructor, illustrator, concept designer, comic artist, etc. I also do all my own marketing.

    I am always looking for ideas to market that utilizes my drawing abilities and t-shirts is something I've done professional for a T-shirt companies, some years back.

    However, this seems like something I can do. Who is also using Google ads? What about forum posting to forums of the niche?

    BTW, I do custom T-shirt designs for $50. Yes, more expansive that you will get from philipines or something, but I have designed T-shirts for years for a professional company in San Jose, CA.
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  • Profile picture of the author JodyRossDeane
    One way to make profits from teespring without spending on ads is to post your designs to Facebook groups in that niche. I'd love to know results people get who try this method. Some marketers are teaching this.
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    • Profile picture of the author chinup
      Originally Posted by JodyRossDeane View Post

      One way to make profits from teespring without spending on ads is to post your designs to Facebook groups in that niche. I'd love to know results people get who try this method. Some marketers are teaching this.
      I haven't yet launched any campaign however I posted a design up on my page that has already close to half million likes to see the anticipation and the results seem positive.

      I am thinking if I should spend any money on the ad's just to see what it can do for free from those passionate fans. I will report back the results when I launch the campaign.
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      • Profile picture of the author hpz
        Well as for likes, they dont always mean sale. For example I'm currently running the weirdest campaign ever. It gets a lot of likes(ads got about 240 likes in 2 days and 60 shares) and comments(most of them are like "I want one", "oh, I'll sure get one"etc. The price is 29.99, so it's low, and yet no sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediamash
    Hi... Can some one give me their opinion on this...

    I am running a niche campaign at the moment

    $102 - ad spend
    915 - likes
    683 - website clicks
    5.049% - CTR
    21- sales

    3 days left on campaign

    I have tipped as i set it at 15 - should i cut my losses now and end the campaign as i have earned $190

    thoughts anyone?
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      On the last day make an ad saying SALE ENDS TODAY AT (TIME). It works wonders for me. Every time I add this in my campaign i get 20-30 sales. Sometimes I sell more on the last day that I had in the previous days combined.
      So to sum up, dont end it yet. Milk it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediamash
    Thanks HPZ.. this issue i have is that i don't want to break even on this.. i don't mind making a small profit... i just don't want to spend another $100 and only sell 3 more..lol

    I guess i could pause the ads till the last day and then change the ad up?
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      That might be a good idea, but if you're targeting a big audience you might not be able to reach them all on the last day. But if you're really concerned about the money then I would pause and relaunched on the last day.

      P.S. Be careful with timing. Teespring clock doesn't always work properly so I would suggest you to end the campaign manually at least 2-3 hours before teespring says it will end. It gives you more control over the whole thing and your customers wont be dissapointed. I actually lost couple sales because of it last week and wrote to customer support, here's what they replied: "Hi Tom,

      Unfortunately the counter is not entirely accurate up to the hour. The campaigns can end at any time on that last day as there are so many that close each day. You certainly could relaunch it for those buyers that missed out.

      Please let me know if you have any further questions."
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  • Profile picture of the author mediamash
    @HPZ - thanks, will keep that in mind...

    Is there a skype group anyone has for teespring people like us, to swap tips etc?

    Love to join if there is
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Seems the support line is now impossible to get through on. A lot of my potential buyers are shying away because of it, I get mixed results on email support (sometimes great, sometimes pathetic) and their FB page is getting hammered with complaints. Sinking ship or just a rough patch?
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Seems the support line is now impossible to get through on. A lot of my potential buyers are shying away because of it, I get mixed results on email support (sometimes great, sometimes pathetic) and their FB page is getting hammered with complaints. Sinking ship or just a rough patch?
      I wouldn't give up on them yet. I think they're overwhelmed by their own success. I'm sure they will work out all the kinks soon enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Seems the support line is now impossible to get through on. A lot of my potential buyers are shying away because of it, I get mixed results on email support (sometimes great, sometimes pathetic) and their FB page is getting hammered with complaints. Sinking ship or just a rough patch?
      They got a huge investment not long ago... It's going to be interesting to see if they invest in more customer support staff... or if they use the investment for equipment and other pieces...

      There are a lot of other available vendors these days since Teespring had such good success. A lot of copy cats popping up who offer some advantages and disadvantages.

      I've been using Teespring to test my shirts... then I throw up a design on SunFrog Shirts... now i'm working with a freelance printer to handle my dropshipping and individual orders... This way, my team is in charge of customer support and I get the buyer leads each sale.

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      • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
        If anyone who is located outside of USA is still getting socked 5% by paypal. I set up an alternative method with teespring/bill.com/payoneer so i get paid to my bank in australia and the fee is 1% as opposed to 5%

        bill.com -> payoneer -> my local bank.

        P.M me if anyone needs help setting it up.... the +4% has been a nice optimisation
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        • Profile picture of the author AdWordsUzmani
          Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

          If anyone who is located outside of USA is still getting socked 5% by paypal. I set up an alternative method with teespring/bill.com/payoneer so i get paid to my bank in australia and the fee is 1% as opposed to 5%

          bill.com -> payoneer -> my local bank.

          P.M me if anyone needs help setting it up.... the +4% has been a nice optimisation
          When you withdrawal you will pay approximately extra 1.8% but still better than paypal!
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      • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        They got a huge investment not long ago... It's going to be interesting to see if they invest in more customer support staff... or if they use the investment for equipment and other pieces...

        There are a lot of other available vendors these days since Teespring had such good success. A lot of copy cats popping up who offer some advantages and disadvantages.

        I've been using Teespring to test my shirts... then I throw up a design on SunFrog Shirts... now i'm working with a freelance printer to handle my dropshipping and individual orders... This way, my team is in charge of customer support and I get the buyer leads each sale.

        Travis
        Hi, May i have the contact of your freelancer printer?
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by anguschkong View Post

          Hi, May i have the contact of your freelancer printer?
          Lol... you mean give away my perfect dropshipper that I spent 2 months searching? Nah.

          I send him enough business. he can't handle another client. At least, that's what I made him sign in the contract agreement.
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  • Profile picture of the author floresdenisef
    I have been using FaceBook just to promote my guest posts but was not aware of these techniques. I will certainly give it a try too.
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    Thanks for sharing the experiences...
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpaintingnow
    dyerg, read this whole thread if you haven't yet done so. He tells you exactly what you need to do. You need to create 10 designs to explore what works. One or two of them should work, and when it does, you dump $200-$300 into the ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    aaaaaaaaaand, I finally got my account manager!
    They also apologised for the lack of recent service as they have been so busy.
    Faith restored and tons of upcoming gigs to hit the market. Time for a celebration nap...
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      aaaaaaaaaand, I finally got my account manager!
      They also apologised for the lack of recent service as they have been so busy.
      Faith restored and tons of upcoming gigs to hit the market. Time for a celebration nap...
      haha wtf, 2 more acc managers just emailed too! They must be competing with each other!
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Nice!! If by chance, we have the same acct mgr, don't hit on her...cause I am...haha. I haven't been on here in a bit, well, because like I previously mentioned, I've been living in Vegas every other week! Nothing beats working on Teespring with the Vegas strip view outside your window. Work hard, play harder people..

      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      aaaaaaaaaand, I finally got my account manager!
      They also apologised for the lack of recent service as they have been so busy.
      Faith restored and tons of upcoming gigs to hit the market. Time for a celebration nap...
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        Nice!! If by chance, we have the same acct mgr, don't hit on her...cause I am...haha. I haven't been on here in a bit, well, because like I previously mentioned, I've been living in Vegas every other week! Nothing beats working on Teespring with the Vegas strip view outside your window. Work hard, play harder people..
        you sound like a coke and hookers guy lol
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    I decided to invest $800 or so into this to see if I can get it rolling. I have spent a while brainstorming and researching different niches. I came up with some really good ones, I believe, plus slogans and designs.

    I will let you guys know the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author crazy4cs
    Great thread Petelta!

    I want to ask one thing. I saw many people had great success with scrapers like Social Lead Freak and such. I was quite interested in it.

    But I have heard and read a lot about Facebook's policy about targeting by names or surnames.

    But what about uids? Would it still work? Or they'd deny it? Kind of in dilemma and would appreciate an honest opinion.

    Thanks and cheers for everyone's success!
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    • Profile picture of the author masterpaintingnow
      Originally Posted by crazy4cs View Post

      Great thread Petelta!

      I want to ask one thing. I saw many people had great success with scrapers like Social Lead Freak and such. I was quite interested in it.

      But I have heard and read a lot about Facebook's policy about targeting by names or surnames.

      But what about uids? Would it still work? Or they'd deny it? Kind of in dilemma and would appreciate an honest opinion.

      Thanks and cheers for everyone's success!
      They don't seem to care about emails and uids. All marketers I know that make money with facebook uses them. However, if you read all the rules carefully, Facebok says you need to get permission from all people whose UIDs you use.

      Does anyone do that? I doubt it.
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      • Profile picture of the author crazy4cs
        Originally Posted by masterpaintingnow View Post

        They don't seem to care about emails and uids. All marketers I know that make money with facebook uses them. However, if you read all the rules carefully, Facebok says you need to get permission from all people whose UIDs you use.

        Does anyone do that? I doubt it.
        Yes, I understand it but the question is whether is there a risk of Facebook banning the accounts? I am deciding to target people with similar names but only uploaded through user ids.

        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by crazy4cs View Post

          Yes, I understand it but the question is whether is there a risk of Facebook banning the accounts? I am deciding to target people with similar names but only uploaded through user ids.

          Thanks!
          UIDs are the only way to target a group of people with the same name. Those are the audiences that will get you banned.

          For bad ads, you'll get your ad account shutdown... You'll still be able to post to your wall, but you won't be able to do more ads
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          • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            UIDs are the only way to target a group of people with the same name. Those are the audiences that will get you banned.

            For bad ads, you'll get your ad account shutdown... You'll still be able to post to your wall, but you won't be able to do more ads
            Still with the names, (but usefull for other things) can you tell me how the hell there are people making campaigns that sell over 200 and have 54 likes on the teespring page? it´s not a dark post, with a dark post the clicks count as likes, how are they doing it?
            Post engagements?

            Anyone? :confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

              Still with the names, (but usefull for other things) can you tell me how the hell there are people making campaigns that sell over 200 and have 54 likes on the teespring page? it´s not a dark post, with a dark post the clicks count as likes, how are they doing it?
              Post engagements?

              Anyone? :confused:
              Campaigns that have no likes but sell lots are being sold through a fan page. The Teespring campaigns with a ton of likes are from people using advertising to sell them. It's a trick to know which designs and niches are being dominated with straight ads or need a long term following.

              When you run a newsfeed ad, if it gets liked, the Teespring page will show that like. So, those likes aren't people actually coming to the sales page and clicking like... they are liking from elsewhere and are mostly people that won't buy.

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              • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
                Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                Campaigns that have no likes but sell lots are being sold through a fan page. The Teespring campaigns with a ton of likes are from people using advertising to sell them. It's a trick to know which designs and niches are being dominated with straight ads or need a long term following.

                When you run a newsfeed ad, if it gets liked, the Teespring page will show that like. So, those likes aren't people actually coming to the sales page and clicking like... they are liking from elsewhere and are mostly people that won't buy.

                Travis
                I thought so, but look at this case bellow!
                IT'S A DONNA THING | Teespring

                more than 900 sold, I can´t believe there is a fanpage for people named Donna, I can't find it anyway, are you sure it's from a fanpage?
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                • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
                  Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                  I thought so, but look at this case bellow!
                  IT'S A DONNA THING | Teespring

                  more than 900 sold, I can´t believe there is a fanpage for people named Donna, I can't find it anyway, are you sure it's from a fanpage?
                  Petelta

                  This guy has much more than one campaign, a lot of them actually, all of them with over 100 sold and few likes, he can´t have fanpages for names, I've looked and I can't find anything...

                  Any idea how this is being advertised? :confused::confused::confused:
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                  • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
                    Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                    Petelta

                    This guy has much more than one campaign, a lot of them actually, all of them with over 100 sold and few likes, he can´t have fanpages for names, I've looked and I can't find anything...

                    Any idea how this is being advertised? :confused::confused::confused:
                    Could be right side ads, or it could be a Donna related fan page using custom UID targeting, or it could be any random facebook page with custom UID targeting. Donna is a pretty common name, so maybe the post went viral?
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                    • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
                      Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

                      Could be right side ads, or it could be a Donna related fan page using custom UID targeting, or it could be any random facebook page with custom UID targeting. Donna is a pretty common name, so maybe the post went viral?
                      No fanpages, the same person has more than 10 names (on teeview) so there is a LOT more..

                      I´m wondering it could be also offers, or even post engagement, that would make the likes go up, I'd have to test these various option to see where I can make a better CTR and sales..:rolleyes:
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                  • Profile picture of the author petelta
                    Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                    Petelta

                    This guy has much more than one campaign, a lot of them actually, all of them with over 100 sold and few likes, he can´t have fanpages for names, I've looked and I can't find anything...

                    Any idea how this is being advertised? :confused::confused::confused:
                    He definitely has a fan page but it doesn't mean it's got many likes. You just need a fan page to associate the newsfeed ad with. YOu can make sales from these straight from ads. If you look at how many likes the campaign has, you can see it was straight from an ad.. as I explained earlier in this thread.

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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by crazy4cs View Post

          Yes, I understand it but the question is whether is there a risk of Facebook banning the accounts? I am deciding to target people with similar names but only uploaded through user ids.

          Thanks!
          You'll get smashed by FB regardless of how you do it
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          • Profile picture of the author crazy4cs
            Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

            You'll get smashed by FB regardless of how you do it
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            UIDs are the only way to target a group of people with the same name. Those are the audiences that will get you banned.

            For bad ads, you'll get your ad account shutdown... You'll still be able to post to your wall, but you won't be able to do more ads
            I see, just what I wanted to confirm. Thanks a lot you both. Also congrats on your immense success.

            Just one more question, now that FB has cracked down on these uids and stuff, do you guys still use tools like these to build custom audience? I am not sure if FB allows uids other than targeting people with same name or I am not sure why they would have UIDs option in first place.

            Also can FB catch scrapers like SLF even if we don't use these same people name? Would it allow custom uids for people we scrape who don't have same names? I assume you guys maybe doing it and might not be having problem. Would appreciate input here.

            Cheers.
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by crazy4cs View Post

              I see, just what I wanted to confirm. Thanks a lot you both. Also congrats on your immense success.

              Just one more question, now that FB has cracked down on these uids and stuff, do you guys still use tools like these to build custom audience? I am not sure if FB allows uids other than targeting people with same name or I am not sure why they would have UIDs option in first place.

              Cheers.
              They didn't crack down on UID's and Custom Audiences as such. They added clause "x" to their advertising Ts & Cs which now includes "name" on the list of banned targets for advertising. Even if you didn't use a custom audience, the ad itself would get slapped.

              Custom Audiences are a grey area and you are supposed to have "permission" of the UID's you are using. How they police that, and whether or not any advertisers actually give a shit, is another story
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              • Profile picture of the author crazy4cs
                Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                They didn't crack down on UID's and Custom Audiences as such. They added clause "x" to their advertising Ts & Cs which now includes "name" on the list of banned targets for advertising. Even if you didn't use a custom audience, the ad itself would get slapped.

                Custom Audiences are a grey area and you are supposed to have "permission" of the UID's you are using. How they police that, and whether or not any advertisers actually give a shit, is another story
                Thanks. Appreciate that. So I assume you target uids too one or other way?
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    i still waiting a paypal payment since 8 days
    anyone had such a problem with teespring
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  • Profile picture of the author Syed Raza
    The numbers a too much ! Thats Great I will give it a try
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  • Profile picture of the author margaritovbg
    So I went over the thread few times and I think I have good plan:
    1. Hired someone on the forum to do 5 graphics for my niche
    2. Come up with 5 simple text t-shirts as well, so 10 different in total, so that I can test
    4. Build the facebook page to around 10000 fans and content, as well
    5. Do a campaign for each design, each campaign lasting for 7 days
    6. Make an ad for the last two days, which says the item is 50% off or something like that

    After paying about about $250 for the designs, I will have left with around $600, which I think will be plenty for the ads. What do you think.
    And another question, because I live in Eastern Europe and intend to target the US will I have problems with payments from teespring?
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  • Profile picture of the author Be Debt Free
    Travis,

    I wanted to target movie fans with teespring. Is it legal to make caricatures/cartoons of movie stars and put them on the shirt?

    JB
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    • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
      Up until yesterday I was targeting last names via custom audiences and it was working splendidly. ~15% CTR on average, the only downside was the $20 oCPM which translated to a 20c CPC to the website. Still made on average 50% ROI over about $300 spend but when I woke up yesterday my ads account was perm banned.

      They had been disabling my audiences for a few days and I just kept re-uploading them thinking it was the same as when an ad is disapproved, but clearly it wasn't.

      Just a warning for anyone else considering it, it's not worth it unless you can pump in a few thousand dollars to make some big earnings in the short term because they will eventually get ya

      EDIT: On the topic of custom targeting and scraping UIDS, is it safe to scrape other details such as birth year and country? I know you can target them without custom audiences but if you were to created a custom audience with age and country targeted would facebook catch you out and ban the account?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

        Up until yesterday I was targeting last names via custom audiences and it was working splendidly. ~15% CTR on average, the only downside was the $20 oCPM which translated to a 20c CPC to the website. Still made on average 50% ROI over about $300 spend but when I woke up yesterday my ads account was perm banned.

        They had been disabling my audiences for a few days and I just kept re-uploading them thinking it was the same as when an ad is disapproved, but clearly it wasn't.

        Just a warning for anyone else considering it, it's not worth it unless you can pump in a few thousand dollars to make some big earnings in the short term because they will eventually get ya

        EDIT: On the topic of custom targeting and scraping UIDS, is it safe to scrape other details such as birth year and country? I know you can target them without custom audiences but if you were to created a custom audience with age and country targeted would facebook catch you out and ban the account?
        Yep, I ran another 30 odd and got a warning.
        Won't be doing it again. Strange thing is though that I had another warning this morning and am not running anything similar or something that is against the guidelines so I have written to them for clarification.

        A friend of mine also just had his account banned permanently for targeting age (Year of Birth Campaigns, Vintage shirts etc) he was also told his account would NOT be reinstated.

        Time to think outside the box people!
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        • Profile picture of the author suwop
          so custom audiences are not working anymore? I have been putting in audiences in they are not running my ads. I'm stuck at 0 clicks and 0 likes with targets of 30K and some with a little more.
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  • Profile picture of the author crazy4cs
    Damn, that definitely sounds scary enough. I'll pass on the custom audiences then. People who jumped at right time did banked hard, oh well.

    I was few days ago thinking to target birth year and I can't believe your friend got banned for that? Come on that can be done through default parameters in Facebook too. :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Amsterdamer
    Hey Guys,

    i want to share my first thoughts and steps of this.

    first of all, i'm trying to target people in germany (I'm from germany).

    So yesterday i launched my first campaign through fabrily
    Why Fabrily?

    - The shipping costs to germany are much lower with fabrily as with teespring
    - You can choose between €, $, £

    But there are also some, yeah how to explain it.. It has something to do with the VAT. So if someone wants to by a shirt from EU or UK, you get VAT added to your normal price.

    I set my normal price to
    22.49€
    + VAT 4,49€
    + SC 4,05€
    = 31,03€

    My win of that would be 13,15€

    But that price is way to high. Also a big problem is that i put on my ad the normal price (22,49€).. So many people click the ad with the expectation to buy a shirt for 22,49€, but thats totally wrong. So it would be better from fabrily if they put the VAT on the normal price and thats the price what the normal buyers see - and not the my choosed price.

    Ok let's go ahead

    I did a ad with a budget of 15€

    here are my results




    As you can see - alot of people cliked on my link. But I only got one sale from 159 people.. holy thats really baad - i think it is connected with the problem with the VAT and maybe also that the fabrily site isn't on german.

    I mean if my design is bullshit, people didn't klick on the ad. SO a) the price is to high in the end or b)fabrily is, in the eyes of my targets, not so trustfull. Cause it's not a german site.

    here is a picture of my ad



    Next Ideas,

    maybe it's better to make my own page with a small landing page where I describe the situation with Fabrily and that there is no better choice for that. than a button (Buy Now) who redirects to fabrily. it's a little bit more transparent cause i do a little conversaison. Or isn't it?

    Or maybe someone else has a better idea.

    And shell I scale the ad a little bit up, or shell I first optimize my "problems" with fabrily?

    Today I'm trying also one teespring campaign! Maybe It's better.

    I don't think so cause you can only display the price in $ and the shippingcosts are ******* high to germany (10 bucks)

    Thanks guys
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    • Profile picture of the author dyerg
      Originally Posted by suwop View Post

      so custom audiences are not working anymore? I have been putting in audiences in they are not running my ads. I'm stuck at 0 clicks and 0 likes with targets of 30K and some with a little more.
      Originally Posted by crazy4cs View Post

      Damn, that definitely sounds scary enough. I'll pass on the custom audiences then. People who jumped at right time did banked hard, oh well.

      I was few days ago thinking to target birth year and I can't believe your friend got banned for that? Come on that can be done through default parameters in Facebook too. :/
      I ran 2 campaigns that ended a couple of days ago and I used SLF to scrap uids. Now my scraping wasn't as specific as name and age but it was towards certain niche fan page. I think that's the point Petelta was trying to make going after a niche market (ie. "This girl loves Pugs" shirt, you will scrap uids from all pug fanpage that you can think of, then only target women from that custom audience). I didn't get any warning and I didn't get shutdown. My CTR was pretty good but they didn't convert to sales.. I got a lot of likes on the ad itself but nobody was buying it.

      Other people on this thread was guessing it might have been the design that wasn't appealing to the crowd, which could definitely be true. I will try this again this week and follow the recipe more closely (making 10 different design, having very low sales Goal, recognizing the design that works and pumping the my ad money into it).

      It might happen next week actually.. I would love to find a graphic designer that's affordable.. any suggestions and where I should look?
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  • Profile picture of the author tismi
    IMO, your price is way too high. I know that I wouldn't pay 30€ for a custom t-shirt. of course, it all depends on your design and your niche. are people passionate enough to spend money on a t-shirt?

    judging from your very high ctr you are doing your targeting the right way. still, you got 159 unique clicks and only 35 likes? the share rate is quite good though.

    you are advertising your price without VAT. change that and include it in your price. people think they are going to see t-shirt with a price of 22.49, however the final price is 27€ plus shipping.

    my first try would be to lower the price, I would go for something like 19.95€ (including VAT!). yes, I know your profits would be slashed in half, but there is just something magical about 19.95 . also, maybe try giving them more value by stating "normal price 24.95€, now with 5€ discount!".

    from my experience, people are not having problems trusting fabrily, I have ran one campaign with them without problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amsterdamer
      Originally Posted by tismi View Post

      IMO, your price is way too high. I know that I wouldn't pay 30€ for a custom t-shirt. of course, it all depends on your design and your niche. are people passionate enough to spend money on a t-shirt?

      judging from your very high ctr you are doing your targeting the right way. still, you got 159 unique clicks and only 35 likes? the share rate is quite good though.

      you are advertising your price without VAT. change that and include it in your price. people think they are going to see t-shirt with a price of 22.49, however the final price is 27€ plus shipping.

      my first try would be to lower the price, I would go for something like 19.95€ (including VAT!). yes, I know your profits would be slashed in half, but there is just something magical about 19.95 . also, maybe try giving them more value by stating "normal price 24.95€, now with 5€ discount!".

      from my experience, people are not having problems trusting fabrily, I have ran one campaign with them without problems.
      Hey thanks!

      yeah man you're absolutely right. I'm way to high.
      Today, I also tried a campaign with teespring

      Here are my halftime results


      also a really bad conversion rate. But I think the problem with teespring is the high shipping cost and that the price is displayed in USD

      My price for the Tshirt is 25$ so around 18€

      I would say it's not to high.

      The ad looks similair to my other one. I got 36 likes and 12 shares. 2 Shares are public for me and they say it,s the right tshirt for them.. but why they didn't buy it? Holyy..

      I also run a teespring campaign for my englisch niche - got in 4 hr 11 clicks.. let's check it later
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      • Profile picture of the author tismi
        I see from your picture that you are showing your ad on mobile also. from my experience news feed ads work better on desktop only, it seems to me that people who are using their mobile phones (ok, some of them are using tablets) to check facebook are only doing this to pass the time, they are not in the buying mode and are far less likely to buy something (the only time I buy something using my phone is when I'm using specific apps - like ebay or aliexpress).
        also, note that when you try to access teespring page from facebook you will get a warning to follow this link only if you trust the site. some people will just hit back never to see the campaign.

        and you are right, high shipping costs are a turn off plus showing the price in USD instead of EUR - you only see the number, 25, which is still a bit high imo, not knowing the current conversion rate. its a psychological thing, ask yourself, would you rather click on a product showing 25$ or 18€?

        your ctr is still excellent and cpc low, how many conversions did you get?
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        • Profile picture of the author hpz
          Amsterdamer, your price is way to high. You rarely see T-shirts on teespring with higher price than 19.99$.
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          • Profile picture of the author Amsterdamer
            Originally Posted by tismi View Post

            I see from your picture that you are showing your ad on mobile also. from my experience news feed ads work better on desktop only, it seems to me that people who are using their mobile phones (ok, some of them are using tablets) to check facebook are only doing this to pass the time, they are not in the buying mode and are far less likely to buy something (the only time I buy something using my phone is when I'm using specific apps - like ebay or aliexpress).
            also, note that when you try to access teespring page from facebook you will get a warning to follow this link only if you trust the site. some people will just hit back never to see the campaign.

            and you are right, high shipping costs are a turn off plus showing the price in USD instead of EUR - you only see the number, 25, which is still a bit high imo, not knowing the current conversion rate. its a psychological thing, ask yourself, would you rather click on a product showing 25$ or 18€?

            your ctr is still excellent and cpc low, how many conversions did you get?
            ah Ok, I din't know that problem with the warning link. So maybe it will be better to make a landing page and redirect them to teespring/fabrily...?

            With my second ad - so that tshirt which is on Teespring i got no sale - But i think it's connected with the problems (displayed price, english site, shipping costs)
            I asked Fabrily when they add german language do their site. the supporter seid in a few weeks, so maybe it's better than.

            Originally Posted by hpz View Post

            Amsterdamer, your price is way to high. You rarely see T-shirts on teespring with higher price than 19.99$.
            Yeah and do you know how much is 19.99$ in €? 13,78€!!! Thats nothing. people want to pay more for it.
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            • Profile picture of the author hpz
              Originally Posted by Amsterdamer View Post

              Yeah and do you know how much is 19.99$ in €? 13,78€!!! Thats nothing. people want to pay more for it.
              People never want to pay more for anything unless we're talking Veblen's paradox, which this is not. Either use German company, wait for fibrly to include german language or start making US campaigns with Teespring. Targeting Europe with Teespring is a lost cause for several reasons: 1. Diffrent currency tends to freak people out 2. US>Europe shipping is notoriously unreliable(custom problems, lost in transit etc.) 3. US> Europe shipping is (as you mentioned youself) pretty expensive. 4. It takes a long time to ship package to Europe
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by tismi View Post

          I see from your picture that you are showing your ad on mobile also. from my experience news feed ads work better on desktop only, it seems to me that people who are using their mobile phones (ok, some of them are using tablets) to check facebook are only doing this to pass the time, they are not in the buying mode and are far less likely to buy something (the only time I buy something using my phone is when I'm using specific apps - like ebay or aliexpress).
          Do you have any legit statistical data to prove this? I mean from start to finish... can you see which viewers are buying yoru goods?

          Because on 95% of my Teespring campaigns, more people buy from mobile than a desktop. I was surprised too honestly... but the Teespring analytics shows it clearly.

          For those that have sold some shirts and want to see the data, log in to Teespring and then go to this website...

          analytics.teespring.com

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          • Profile picture of the author Amsterdamer
            Originally Posted by tismi View Post

            I wouldn't bother with landing page, just show the ad on desktop only. except if you want to grab the leads using landing page, now thats a whole different story. you might even grab some leads from mobile, but, still, imo mobile isn't worthy of the costs. you can split test it though.
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            Do you have any legit statistical data to prove this? I mean from start to finish... can you see which viewers are buying yoru goods?

            Because on 95% of my Teespring campaigns, more people buy from mobile than a desktop. I was surprised too honestly... but the Teespring analytics shows it clearly.

            For those that have sold some shirts and want to see the data, log in to Teespring and then go to this website...

            analytics.teespring.com

            Travis
            thanks for that analytics link

            that's awesome

            So, Finally I got one sale!! yeah But still to less.
            And as you can see here. Most of the People came from mobile facebook..
            Here is my fb ad report

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          • Profile picture of the author jimmythe
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            Do you have any legit statistical data to prove this? I mean from start to finish... can you see which viewers are buying yoru goods?

            Because on 95% of my Teespring campaigns, more people buy from mobile than a desktop. I was surprised too honestly... but the Teespring analytics shows it clearly.

            For those that have sold some shirts and want to see the data, log in to Teespring and then go to this website...

            analytics.teespring.com

            Travis
            Hi Travis

            What sort of Mobile do you target? iOS, Android or all? Also have you noticed a difference in Wifi Targeting?
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            • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
              I'm wondering if custom age targeting would get your ads taken down and your account warned/banned. You can currently target age normally (obviously), but that's different to year of birth like these campaigns are doing.

              I'd test it myself but my main account is banned and any other accounts I'm using are still being verified by Facebook...
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              • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

                I'm wondering if custom age targeting would get your ads taken down and your account warned/banned. You can currently target age normally (obviously), but that's different to year of birth like these campaigns are doing.

                I'd test it myself but my main account is banned and any other accounts I'm using are still being verified by Facebook...
                You can target age ranges obviously but as soon as your copy or image shows its targeting year of birth or age, you will get he-bitch man slapped by Facebooks big white hand.

                I was going to run these but after seeing a close friend get banned and another two have their warnings, I'm not touching it
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  • Profile picture of the author tismi
    I wouldn't bother with landing page, just show the ad on desktop only. except if you want to grab the leads using landing page, now thats a whole different story. you might even grab some leads from mobile, but, still, imo mobile isn't worthy of the costs. you can split test it though.
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  • Profile picture of the author tismi
    in all honesty, no . I was experimenting with mobile traffic at the beginning when I didn't have a successful campaign and the only positive thing I got was an increased reach while my testing budgets dried up a lot faster with little to no results. afterwards I have changed the way I am doing fb ads and left mobile traffic all out.

    so no, no statistical data, just testing and a little bit of gut feeling . I know that some of you are doing great using mobile traffic, but I was not successful. if only facebook would give us a chance to use mobile traffic coming from tablets users only, not smartphones .
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tismi View Post

      in all honesty, no . I was experimenting with mobile traffic at the beginning when I didn't have a successful campaign and the only positive thing I got was an increased reach while my testing budgets dried up a lot faster with little to no results. afterwards I have changed the way I am doing fb ads and left mobile traffic all out.

      so no, no statistical data, just testing and a little bit of gut feeling . I know that some of you are doing great using mobile traffic, but I was not successful. if only facebook would give us a chance to use mobile traffic coming from tablets users only, not smartphones .
      I was surprised by the results myself. I didn't think people bought through mobile... but once I set up the tracking, it clearly showed around 60% of sales come through mobile.

      I started running only mobile ads after that a little bit, but wasn't able to get enough action on the ads to make them get enough reach. So, I still run desktop and mobile ads... but yes, the mobile seems to sell more on Teespring... at least for my angles.
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      • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
        Yeah I just checked my analytics, and over ~50 sales 24 came from mobile, 10 came from desktop, and teespring doesn't know where the rest came from lol. I also had 4% conversion rate on mobile versus 3% on desktop. Definitely going to split them up from now on and see what happens.
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        • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
          I'm now skipping TeeSpring all together.

          I've got my T-Shirt site setup, with a sales page for each shirt that is fairly similar in style to TeeSpring, with the exception that every shirt ordered ships, there is no "goal" that must be met.

          Profit per shirt is almost the same as TeeSpring, maybe 50 cents less.
          But, I get to keep every customers order info, email, etc.. and market additional products to them through the website, newsletter, etc.. which all equals $$$ in the long run.
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          • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
            Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

            I'm now skipping TeeSpring all together.

            I've got my T-Shirt site setup, with a sales page for each shirt that is fairly similar in style to TeeSpring, with the exception that every shirt ordered ships, there is no "goal" that must be met.

            Profit per shirt is almost the same as TeeSpring, maybe 50 cents less.
            But, I get to keep every customers order info, email, etc.. and market additional products to them through the website, newsletter, etc.. which all equals $$$ in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
    Thanks Petelta
    I already found him on facebook though, he has a fanpage as you said, but he's promoting by post engagement, causing few likes on teespering campaign page, that was a very nice idea, he can have engagement cheaper than a normal ad
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    • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
      Just set up a new campaign and did away with name targeting, sticking solely to people who like certain pages or are members of certain groups.

      Compared to my name campaigns, this new campaign gets twice the likes, 1.5x the shares, but only a third of the website clicks for every dollar spent.

      Still managing a 10% CTR and $8 oCPM which is awesome, I didn't think my CTR would be so high without targeting names or birth years, but most of that is likes so I don't know.

      Oh yeah the most important thing, spent $18 and got 1 sale ($10), but I'm gonna let it go a bit further because of all the shares and likes it's getting.
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    I am looking around teeview and see few copies of the Donna t-shirt already
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Has anyone had their FB account suspended (24-hr suspension) due to "suspicious activity from 'your' IP address?" My 'ish tends to get suspended every 200k UID scrapes/extractions. I just setup a backup AT&T Mobile system to keep on going which seems to works so far. Facebook is making my life expensive, haha....
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Has anyone had their FB account suspended (24-hr suspension) due to "suspicious activity from 'your' IP address?" My 'ish tends to get suspended every 200k UID scrapes/extractions. I just setup a backup AT&T Mobile system to keep on going which seems to works so far. Facebook is making my life expensive, haha....
      Yep, use four different servers in a virtualised environment with different IPS on each. Each server uses several accounts.
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      • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Yep, use four different servers in a virtualised environment with different IPS on each. Each server uses several accounts.

        Hey Nicoli & Everyone-

        Great thread!

        Just wanted to chime in, had some Teespring success, but was Permanently banned recently. Total bummer.

        I have worked out around it and now everything I'm doing is totally by the book (before I was just barely targeting names and got banned hard - crazy thing is i truly didnt even KNOW targeting names was against TOS, as I saw so much success on TeeView),

        Anyway, my question is this - which is best - a VPN (city-specific), or a private proxy IP (city-specific as well)..

        Been using a VPN thru HMA, and all is working, but I have read that its a matter of time before FB does a scan and can detect my VPN usage, plus the fact, apparently the IPs on the VPN are pretty abused...

        If proxy is the best option, is socks5 the best route?

        I have nothing but great intentions with FB and Teespring, so having to deal with this is a serious pain and a bummer, but so it goes.

        Please let me know your thoughts-

        Much appreciated you guys and mega congratulations on Killlling it!

        :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
          Originally Posted by vipluxury View Post

          Hey Nicoli & Everyone-

          Great thread!

          Just wanted to chime in, had some Teespring success, but was Permanently banned recently. Total bummer.

          I have worked out around it and now everything I'm doing is totally by the book (before I was just barely targeting names and got banned hard - crazy thing is i truly didnt even KNOW targeting names was against TOS, as I saw so much success on TeeView),

          Anyway, my question is this - which is best - a VPN (city-specific), or a private proxy IP (city-specific as well)..

          Been using a VPN thru HMA, and all is working, but I have read that its a matter of time before FB does a scan and can detect my VPN usage, plus the fact, apparently the IPs on the VPN are pretty abused...

          If proxy is the best option, is socks5 the best route?

          I have nothing but great intentions with FB and Teespring, so having to deal with this is a serious pain and a bummer, but so it goes.

          Please let me know your thoughts-

          Much appreciated you guys and mega congratulations on Killlling it!

          :-)

          If you are doing things by the book then why are you using a proxy?
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          • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
            Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

            If you are doing things by the book then why are you using a proxy?
            I have to use a proxy/vpn because I was banned by FB ads for basically Nothing.

            I had 3 name campaigns going - and was banned. As I mentioned, I didn't even know this was against TOS, how could anyone know as they are doing so well on teeview..
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by vipluxury View Post

              I have to use a proxy/vpn because I was banned by FB ads for basically Nothing.

              I had 3 name campaigns going - and was banned. As I mentioned, I didn't even know this was against TOS
              "Basically nothing" <> "did not know I was violating TOS"

              how could anyone know as they are doing so well on teeview..
              By reading the TOS they agreed to.

              Don't mean to come off as an ass but these kinds of posts just stick in my craw.
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              • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                "Basically nothing" <> "did not know I was violating TOS"



                By reading the TOS they agreed to.

                Don't mean to come off as an ass but these kinds of posts just stick in my craw.
                Sorry buddy, don't mean to come off as an ass, but I'm hard pressed to believe you read the entirety of the TOS through the multitude of platforms/software/sites you utilize, nor anybody for that matter.

                Given the name niche had such a dominating presence on TV/TC, one would assume it is obviously aligned within FB TOS parameters.
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                • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
                  My custom audiences targeting people who liked or commented on posts made by pages was getting ~8% CTR with a $5 CPM. Now I'm going way broader and targeting everyone who likes the pages, ~5% CTR and $8 CPM. Conversion rate has gone down too. No longer profitable :/
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                  • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
                    Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

                    My custom audiences targeting people who liked or commented on posts made by pages was getting ~8% CTR with a $5 CPM. Now I'm going way broader and targeting everyone who likes the pages, ~5% CTR and $8 CPM. Conversion rate has gone down too. No longer profitable :/
                    Just give it 4-days, and we'll see what Facebook has for us.
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by vipluxury View Post

                  Sorry buddy, don't mean to come off as an ass, but I'm hard pressed to believe you read the entirety of the TOS through the multitude of platforms/software/sites you utilize, nor anybody for that matter.

                  Given the name niche had such a dominating presence on TV/TC, one would assume it is obviously aligned within FB TOS parameters.
                  What I do and what I don't do is really irrelevant because I'm not the one whining about being banned because I didn't read TOS. If you use a service and get banned because you didn't adhere to TOS, whining about it makes you look silly just like telling the cop that everyone else was doing it when he pulls u over for speeding.
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                  • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
                    Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                    What I do and what I don't do is really irrelevant because I'm not the one whining about being banned because I didn't read TOS. If you use a service and get banned because you didn't adhere to TOS, whining about it makes you look silly just like telling the cop that everyone else was doing it when he pulls u over for speeding.
                    Honestly man, I dont have time to deal with people like yourself, yet I still am rather compelled to respond.

                    If you were to assess my posts, you would quickly realize 'whining' was the last thing I was doing. I was seeking to find cohesive, educated answers my questions while concurrently informing others of the risks.

                    Unless you personally work for Facebook, please spare me the parental guidance. If you really feel the need to play TOS policeman, be non-subjective and consistent. 'Scraping' is against FB TOS yet I dont see you self-moderating members who are discussing their scraping protocol.

                    I have only the best intentions with my work and my interactions on this forum. You are offering nothing constructive.

                    In the spirit of keeping this particular post informative, I would like to address the fact that Facebook will indeed ban you for either using a scraper or an undiluted targeted name list. At the time I was banned, I wasnt fully informed of this TOS bullet-point, a fact that Wolfmmiii has so eloquently reiterated.

                    It can be challenging to work around these speed-bumps, but it is do-able.

                    I have since found an insanely profitable niche that is untapped, fully abiding by all FB TOS. To those that are having trouble finding a goldmine, stay on the grind, think outside the box, and it will hit you like a ton of bricks in the middle of the night, as it did myself.
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    I finally have one sale with only a text t-shirt. What I did was to create a page around the niche and then post some content. Then, I made two ad campaigns. One for likes and another one, which boosts the post with the T-Shirt. So far, it is seen by approx. 2000 people in the US and I have one sale.

    Now I see that my t-shirt is featured on Teespring's facebook page and hopefully it will result to additional exposure and the campaign will be over successfully soon. Will see what happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonogunn
    What is the advantage of using teespring over sites like zazzle and redbubble?

    Does crowd funding of teespring allow for lower costs?
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
      Cool thread guys

      A few quick questions before I start testing

      1. If I want to start 10 campaigns at $20 each then is it necessary that I set up 10 fanpages before I even start? Do these fanpages have to look pretty with lots of fans etc.?

      2. Is it necessary to use a scraper? Can't I just use the Facebook ads to target my audience? Isn't the whole point of Facebook Ads that I can narrow my audience according to likes. location, age etc. - therefore why the need for a scraper (unless you are scraping for names or birthdays in which case you are risking your account)

      3. In terms of promoting your campaign, what else do you do apart from the ads? Some people have mentioned posting on Facebook groups but I am pretty sure most groups don't allow people to just come along and spam the group with their offer? What else do you do to advertise/market?

      4. Are you noticing a pattern in terms of what tshirts sell well or is is random? Do you just copy the best-sellers or do you try something different?
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

        1. If I want to start 10 campaigns at $20 each then is it necessary that I set up 10 fanpages before I even start? Do these fanpages have to look pretty with lots of fans etc.?

        2. Is it necessary to use a scraper? Can't I just use the Facebook ads to target my audience? Isn't the whole point of Facebook Ads that I can narrow my audience according to likes. location, age etc. - therefore why the need for a scraper (unless you are scraping for names or birthdays in which case you are risking your account)

        3. In terms of promoting your campaign, what else do you do apart from the ads? Some people have mentioned posting on Facebook groups but I am pretty sure most groups don't allow people to just come along and spam the group with their offer? What else do you do to advertise/market?

        4. Are you noticing a pattern in terms of what tshirts sell well or is is random? Do you just copy the best-sellers or do you try something different?
        1. Most of my fan pages are just a profile image. Nothing more.

        2. 80% of my teespring campaigns target simple interests and don't touch scrapers.

        3. Media buys do very well. You can market in groups as well if you do it correctly... aka don't be a spammer. Here's a post on how I did it with my first Teespring campaign... http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

        4. The way you make big money with this is you find a repeatable design... or a repeatable niche. If you plan on jumping from random niche to random niche, you're giong to get stressed out quickly and lose a lot of money.

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        • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
          Anyone having issues with Custom Audience. When trying to upload a new data file, the 'Create Audience' button remains shaded (can't click)?
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          • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            Anyone having issues with Custom Audience. When trying to upload a new data file, the 'Create Audience' button remains shaded (can't click)?
            Yep just noticed this trying to figure it out now!
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            • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
              I started a new campaign a few days ago, sitting at about $150 profit with $170 spent which is pretty sweet. Something I noticed, I'm using a custom audience and split testing mobile/desktop AND different countries, Australia seems to be kicking ass. 15 sales from under $30 spent, compared to 15 sales from $90 spent on US traffic. Not sure why this is the case, but I'm going to go broader and up my budget and see how things go.
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          • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            Anyone having issues with Custom Audience. When trying to upload a new data file, the 'Create Audience' button remains shaded (can't click)?
            Hopefully this is just a temporary issue.

            There seem to be way too many applications/legit uses for custom audience for Facebook to do away with it. And, they just updated their terms a short while ago (when targeting by names were disallowed), so it seems like if they were going to remove the custom audience option completely, they would have done so then.
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            • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
              Hey!

              Does someone know when you can withdraw the profit? Can you do it as soon as the campaign finishes (if you have reached your goal of course) or do you have to wait until the T-shirts are actually delivered?

              Thank you
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              • Profile picture of the author petelta
                Originally Posted by Cataleya View Post

                Hey!

                Does someone know when you can withdraw the profit? Can you do it as soon as the campaign finishes (if you have reached your goal of course) or do you have to wait until the T-shirts are actually delivered?

                Thank you
                as soon as the campaign is over. It takes 4-14 days to receive the money they state. I've gotten it the next day usually though. Some people say it takes longer for them.
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                • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
                  My campaigns about to end and I have a few questions. I set the goal to 10, and reached 48 sales. Teespring says the total earnings is $487.01 which is around $10.14 a sale. On another campaign where I had the goal at 25, each shirt got me $11.15 after I'd sold 40, so what gives? I've sold more in total but I'm getting $1 less per shirt? It's really annoying too, because I only set the goal to 10 to get more sales in the first few days, I knew I was going to get 50 sales but refrained from using that as my goal because it might hinder my ROI.

                  Maybe when the campaign actually ends the $ per shirt will increase? I hope so...

                  Also, when you relist a campaign what do you do about the URL? I have an ad on FB with 2000 likes, 250 shares, and 150 comments, and I'd like to keep using it. Will Teespring change the URL of the new campaign to that of the old one? Won't that screw things up when the buyers want to checkout the old listing because they'll be met with the new one?

                  Edit: 22 of my 48 sales were for hoodies. I just checked and @ $33 each I should be getting $11.26 for each one. If my campaign ends and Teespring haven't updated my profits I'm not going to be happy.

                  Double edit: Campaign ended and I got $11.4 per sale. Very happy now
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                  • Profile picture of the author petelta
                    Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

                    My campaigns about to end and I have a few questions. I set the goal to 10, and reached 48 sales. Teespring says the total earnings is $487.01 which is around $10.14 a sale. On another campaign where I had the goal at 25, each shirt got me $11.15 after I'd sold 40, so what gives? I've sold more in total but I'm getting $1 less per shirt? It's really annoying too, because I only set the goal to 10 to get more sales in the first few days, I knew I was going to get 50 sales but refrained from using that as my goal because it might hinder my ROI.

                    Maybe when the campaign actually ends the $ per shirt will increase? I hope so...

                    Also, when you relist a campaign what do you do about the URL? I have an ad on FB with 2000 likes, 250 shares, and 150 comments, and I'd like to keep using it. Will Teespring change the URL of the new campaign to that of the old one? Won't that screw things up when the buyers want to checkout the old listing because they'll be met with the new one?

                    Edit: 22 of my 48 sales were for hoodies. I just checked and @ $33 each I should be getting $11.26 for each one. If my campaign ends and Teespring haven't updated my profits I'm not going to be happy.

                    Double edit: Campaign ended and I got $11.4 per sale. Very happy now
                    Each campaign will be different profit per sale depending on what is purchased, colors used, styles offered, and goal set.

                    If you set your goal to 10 and you end up selling 100 shirts, you will get 25% less profit boost than if you were to set the initial goal to 100 and sell that many.
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          • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            Anyone having issues with Custom Audience. When trying to upload a new data file, the 'Create Audience' button remains shaded (can't click)?
            I have this problem too.. DAMN! i just got the id scrapper.. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Assignmentwriter
    This is a great way to advertise on face book at low price .and get better revenue within 3 days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
      also with regard to the names thing

      well why not continue to sell those t-shirts, just don't scrape people with names/surnames or you could get banned, instead just use facebook ads to target the general population and you should still get decent sales although not as many, the same applies for date of birth

      just do what works
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  • Profile picture of the author Cecil Dee
    I'm sold. Just got an email promoting an info product about this stuff. This is really the real mckoy huh. Congrats petelta on crushing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Just incase none of you knew. Custom Audience will no longer work. Any ad with a custom audience will be rejected. Sucks I know, but wait until August 9th until they change their targeting platform.
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    • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Just incase none of you knew. Custom Audience will no longer work. Any ad with a custom audience will be rejected. Sucks I know, but wait until August 9th until they change their targeting platform.
      Any details on the August 9th changes?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

        Any details on the August 9th changes?
        They are changing their targeting platform is all I know.
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        • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
          Hm yeah, when I went to create an ad with a new custom audience it got rejected, something about "targeting name, age, gender, sexual preference, etc" which is completely false because all I'm targeting is whether they like a page or not.
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          • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
            Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

            Hm yeah, when I went to create an ad with a new custom audience it got rejected, something about "targeting name, age, gender, sexual preference, etc" which is completely false because all I'm targeting is whether they like a page or not.
            I got the same message.
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          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
            Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

            Hm yeah, when I went to create an ad with a new custom audience it got rejected, something about "targeting name, age, gender, sexual preference, etc" which is completely false because all I'm targeting is whether they like a page or not.
            Yep, that's it and it's happening to everybody. Hang tight until they offer some shit upgrade to their own targeting platform.

            To all those who purchased scrapers, you need to think out of the box
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            • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
              My question is.. How do you target things like, surnames etc?
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              • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

                My question is.. How do you target things like, surnames etc?
                You don't and you can't
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                • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
                  Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                  You don't and you can't
                  So you just run it broad and hope it reaches the people you want it to?
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                  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                    Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

                    So you just run it broad and hope it reaches the people you want it to?
                    You cannot run ads that target names. Period.
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                    • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
                      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                      You cannot run ads that target names. Period.
                      Yeah, you said that. So basically the people who are running ads promoting surname campaigns, how they doing it? Are they just running a broad audience hoping it works?
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                      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                        Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

                        Yeah, you said that. So basically the people who are running ads promoting surname campaigns, how they doing it? Are they just running a broad audience hoping it works?
                        They were using a trick some of us used on a custom audience amd targeting those names. Seeing as you cannot even use custom audiences now and that any ad that shows a surname for example will get you banned, you're chasing the wrong angle. Don't bother unless you don't mind a ban
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                        • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
                          Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                          They were using a trick some of us used on a custom audience amd targeting those names. Seeing as you cannot even use custom audiences now and that any ad that shows a surname for example will get you banned, you're chasing the wrong angle. Don't bother unless you don't mind a ban
                          I still see adds today promoting tees with surnames and they are doing extremely well and they are not banned?
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                          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                            Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

                            I still see adds today promoting tees with surnames and they are doing extremely well and they are not banned?
                            You are seeing ads? Or shirts on teeview?
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                          • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
                            Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

                            I still see adds today promoting tees with surnames and they are doing extremely well and they are not banned?
                            Luck, maybe. I ran a surname campaign for a week with no real issues, then got banned. Maybe they're using multiple accounts?

                            Although I don't know how they're running them right now, since I can't even use custom audiences at all anymore.
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                            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                              Did you try to create new ads that got rejected during that active week? My older name ads are still active but they reject any new ones.
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                            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                              Here's how I got "around" their system. I'd scrape all the ID's of a particular name then merge it with a "dummy" file (with random IDs). The name file made up 25 percent and the dummy file was the remaining 75 percent of IDs. I would then create a "filter" file with only the dummy file IDs. Upload both files, create an ad, use both files under audience, set the "filter" file to "EXCLUDE" so the ad only targets the names as I intended. Now I gotta think again to get things done, haha...
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                                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                                Here's how I got "around" their system. I'd scrape all the ID's of a particular name then merge it with a "dummy" file (with random IDs). The name file made up 25 percent and the dummy file was the remaining 75 percent of IDs. I would then create a "filter" file with only the dummy file IDs. Upload both files, create an ad, use both files under audience, set the "filter" file to "EXCLUDE" so the ad only targets the names as I intended. Now I gotta think again to get things done, haha...
                                There were easier way, but yeah, with no ability to use customs at the moment, its back to their shithouse targeting platform until they change it up on the 9th April (apparently)
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              • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
                I got my facebook accounts banned 2 times for this.
                Better doing safe things... you can still win a lot of money.
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  "You can still win money?" Are we in Las Vegas or something?!?! lol...
                  Originally Posted by anguschkong View Post

                  I got my facebook accounts banned 2 times for this.
                  Better doing safe things... you can still win a lot of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
    Guys, regarding the "shaded button", i just uploaded the file with google chrome and it worked fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by Oliver13 View Post

      Guys, regarding the "shaded button", i just uploaded the file with google chrome and it worked fine.
      Try running an ad with it though
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      • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
        If anyone had an opinion on VPN vs Proxy, I would appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    I just successfully listed an ad using generic interests...f-ing facebook! I got a baller lifestyle to maintain!
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    • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
      How many of you guys are still doing well with TeeSpring? This week (my first week not doing name campaigns) I made $350 profit with about $250 spend and $600 in revenue, and I was hoping to do more but the campaign ended and when I re-listed I found I had to make new ads, and when I made new ads I found I couldn't use custom audiences anymore...

      So I'm going broader with my targeting but I will hopefully still be profitable.
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        Man, I was making around $2k a day off names...now my TS ads are only making $1000 a day I hope we have a solution soon!

        Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

        How many of you guys are still doing well with TeeSpring? This week (my first week not doing name campaigns) I made $350 profit with about $250 spend and $600 in revenue, and I was hoping to do more but the campaign ended and when I re-listed I found I had to make new ads, and when I made new ads I found I couldn't use custom audiences anymore...

        So I'm going broader with my targeting but I will hopefully still be profitable.
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        I started going broader today...not as effective. Still doing name ads by relisting previous ones and keeping the URL the same.

        Originally Posted by AshTJ View Post

        How many of you guys are still doing well with TeeSpring? This week (my first week not doing name campaigns) I made $350 profit with about $250 spend and $600 in revenue, and I was hoping to do more but the campaign ended and when I re-listed I found I had to make new ads, and when I made new ads I found I couldn't use custom audiences anymore...

        So I'm going broader with my targeting but I will hopefully still be profitable.
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    Glad I wasn't banned though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
    So, no way to use the custom audience?
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Hey DrewStevens, when you were "getting around the Names ToS" using the filters, were you using 1 or more "dummy" accounts? If so, what did you do, create multiple paypal accounts and attach one to each dummy account?

    Have you not been banned at all?

    Also AshTJ, since you said you got banned, how did you get around that and start advertising again?

    Just curious what you guys are doing cause you don't seem bothered about getting banned. Must have some workarounds. Mind sharing any tips?

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      Also AshTJ, since you said you got banned, how did you get around that and start advertising again?

      Just curious what you guys are doing cause you don't seem bothered about getting banned. Must have some workarounds. Mind sharing any tips?

      Cheers
      Honestly, all I did was use a different Facebook account and credit card haha. The facebook account is in a completely made up name, and I started running ads literally hours after I made it. Been going strong for nearly 2 weeks now
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      I use one fake fb account to scrape (which would often get a 24-hr suspension after about 500k ID scrapes) and my main/personal fb to do the ads. I no longer get audiences shut down due to "mostly being a name" since the targeted name is usually 25 percent of the file and the rest dummy/random IDs. The constant audience disabling (for violating TOS) may be why fb is suspending accounts. Since fb actually "supposedly" reviews my ads then approves them before they go live, this may be a reason why I haven't been suspended. My lifetime ad expenses with them is also $350,000 so this might have some influence as well. Who knows tho, they're pretty random people, haha.

      AshTJ and others, did you have a lot of disabled audiences prior to your ban?

      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      Hey DrewStevens, when you were "getting around the Names ToS" using the filters, were you using 1 or more "dummy" accounts? If so, what did you do, create multiple paypal accounts and attach one to each dummy account?

      Have you not been banned at all?

      Also AshTJ, since you said you got banned, how did you get around that and start advertising again?

      Just curious what you guys are doing cause you don't seem bothered about getting banned. Must have some workarounds. Mind sharing any tips?

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author vanbino
        i have a question DrewStevens

        how big is you ca of name to make a campaign success full ?

        i have tried it but i get a few sales here in there but nothing big since i can only get like 7k of uids ?


        how can i able to get more than that ?
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Interesting Drew and Ash. Thanks for the replies btw, didn't think you'd share what you've done lol.

    I use a dummy account too and haven't ever had it locked. Not sure I scrape 500K but I'd say around 250K each day. Run it almost non-stop but, not for days on end, just a 2-3 days. This is for graph scraping, not API btw.

    Drew, also, I get what you're doing as far as mixing UIDs...pretty clever (one of those "wish I thought of that" lol) but, if you're ads are getting manually approved, they must see your Teespring URL which is a "name" campaign? That's what I don't get. Surely they're not manually checking your ads are they?

    Then again, I know someone else who's been running Names just up until the CAs getting disabled so I assume his ads weren't reviewed manually. Yeah, $350K could have something to do with it lol.

    Btw, you still getting away with new Name campaigns now and if so, are you using CAs?

    Ash, you using CAs?

    One last question lol, any of you big hitters try to send traffic to an FB Tab of the Teespring URL instead of directly to Teespring (or a redirect first?) Just wonder if a tab would help get past this custom audience auto-disapproval...or, are you guys getting them ads w/custom audiences approved again lately?

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    @vanbino - are you getting custom audience ads approved or is your Name campaign an old one, ie older than past 5 days or so?
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    • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
      I was using custom audiences and targeting names, then I started getting warnings and my audiences disabled, and then my account got banned.

      When I made my new account I continued using scraped custom audiences, but just scraped all the people who liked/commented on certain pages and who were members of groups, which hasn't got me in any trouble yet.

      Of course, now I can't use any custom audiences and I'm resigned to basic interest targeting, which hasn't seen much of a CTR drop surprisingly, although my conversion rate has gone down significantly...
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      • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
        It takes time for the changes, you will get over it!!!
        I could sell interest group teespring easily now....just like the name shirts.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Bahahaha, we got some trolls in hrrrrrrrr...
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  • Profile picture of the author sarhad12
    thanks for sharing this, its helpful for newbie like myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author YuriBoyka
    Guys, if you look on Teeview and filter on most sold and still active there is a pattern; mostly black and red shirts/hoodies/whatever are being sold/launched. Could this be something to keep in mind when launching an campaign?

    Thanks, and also a big thanks to Petelta for giving out this free awesome information!
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Not really, these are simply popular colors.. Throw in a unique color and it'll probably go viral as well.

      Originally Posted by YuriBoyka View Post

      Guys, if you look on Teeview and filter on most sold and still active there is a pattern; mostly black and red shirts/hoodies/whatever are being sold/launched. Could this be something to keep in mind when launching an campaign?

      Thanks, and also a big thanks to Petelta for giving out this free awesome information!
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  • Profile picture of the author doerakers
    Anyone know what the April 9th changes will affect besides the removal of sponsored stories?
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  • Profile picture of the author MarinerdMike
    My guess is that all the Teespring 'name' campaigns is what drove this change to happen.

    Some of the names that were targeted were pretty unusual; you can imagine that it would freak someone out to see a shirt with their name on it in their timeline. And guess who these people are going to blame? Not Teespring, but Facebook.
    I reckon they received a boatload of complaints from people with not-so-common last names, thinking that Facebook was invading their privacy.

    I also think we can say goodbye to UID files and custom audiences will only be able to be created by email lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author doerakers
    that will suck if the only way to create a custom audience is by using an email list. I don't really care about the names, but I will still like to scrape niche UID lists
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Let's see if scraped custom audiences end after tomorrow. I've heard in FB groups of people getting CAs approved as long as they don't point to Teespring URLs. Some say redirects to Teespring work but a manual review could send you packing.

    I assume people like Drew are finding workarounds though. I reckon he'll get caught out soon enough. (no offense)

    I'm looking more outside Teespring (though not necessarily quitting Teespring altogether as I've had success). I know there's a ton of potential that doesn't require going against TOS, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      No, I'm smarter than Mark Z! Haha...I'm using multiple ad accounts just in case one gets banned. My spend volume is pretty high on them so I don't know if this is why they've been lenient w me.

      I'm still doing name TS ads and seems like the first 10 get approved then they start disapproving additional ones. I think they flag the account when they discover a disapproved ad and call for a more thorough review on future ads.

      I've also been adding general interest ts ads. These tend to require much more thinking than the name ones.. Name ones you just add random garbage after the name and they buy. "Joe is in control" "Joe rules the world" Joe drop's it like it's hot."

      Good luck peeps...

      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      Let's see if scraped custom audiences end after tomorrow. I've heard in FB groups of people getting CAs approved as long as they don't point to Teespring URLs. Some say redirects to Teespring work but a manual review could send you packing.

      I assume people like Drew are finding workarounds though. I reckon he'll get caught out soon enough. (no offense)

      I'm looking more outside Teespring (though not necessarily quitting Teespring altogether as I've had success). I know there's a ton of potential that doesn't require going against TOS, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tania Edwards
    Very useful post.
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  • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
    Do you think Facebook would get mad if I set up a 301 redirect on my domain and used that to bypass their TeeSpring/CA ban? I'm not even targeting names, just page likes and comments. Screw it, I'm gonna do it . I'll report back if I get banned or something haha.
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    • Profile picture of the author hpz
      What teespring ban are you talking about. I'm posting teespring links in ads and have no problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
    Guys, any idea to get approve for my CA ad?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Oliver13 View Post

      Guys, any idea to get approve for my CA ad?
      Add an interest selection to your custom audience ads. This is only a temporary fix though. They will find it and change it so it doesn't work.

      All these restrictions on custom audiences are happening because no one listened when we said stop breaking the TOS rules... now everyone is getting screwed.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        All these restrictions on custom audiences are happening because no one listened when we said stop breaking the TOS rules... now everyone is getting screwed.
        This is why people don't share methods that work.
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  • Profile picture of the author YuriBoyka
    neverminddddd
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  • Profile picture of the author YuriBoyka
    I can't get my ad approved lol. Got like 8 custom audiences files loaded with only UIDS (260k in total) and a direct link to TeeSpring. Don't know the exact reason why it's not getting approved though. I don't know what to do atm, need to think.

    edit: I removed the custom audiences and it was approved in an instant. Pretty lame.
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    • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
      Just find that I copied your design for many campaigns...
      you wouldn't understand
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  • Profile picture of the author dummycpa
    I spent almost $13 but got just 1 sale. The CTR is ~1.8% and cost per website click is $0.40. Should I test more or should I just drop it? Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author YuriBoyka
      Is their already news about the changes related to custom audiences?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasiowroc
    Hello im doing the clothing niche, im on facebook where i buying ads, intrest for my stuff is quite good, but i dont get any sales, im doing the likes, and web clicks ad for facebook and spent like 10$ for 200likes per day, i update the site, and posting on fb, do you have any tips for this niche?

    How to setup the click to web in the best way(target, age, intrest) but something more?

    What's does mean the teespring definiction ?
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  • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
    Anybody else experiencing terrible conversion rates lately? Last week I spent ~$200 and made $550 in revenue, this week I've spent $350 and made $200 in revenue, which is a $150 loss. The only thing that's changed is I'm linking to my own domain and 301 redirecting to the Teespring page. Utterly confused as to what is happening :/
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  • Profile picture of the author this_is_dev
    Hey, anyone who's good at FB PPC(NOT name campaigns) but with low or no designing skills want to JV with me can PM me. Here's an example of my designs which I have NOT done any promotion for.



    REQUEST PLEASE DO NOT COPY!

    I'm a degree level student studying visual communication/graphics design and I don't have a working CC or PP to start using my FB ads account hence the cry for JV.

    PM me only if you can prove me that you're good at FB PPC or also if you think that you're getting less conversion rate because of your designs. And if you have your own idea feel free to PM me.

    Thanks,
    Dev

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, if you're just looking to invest I can do the FB PPC too.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by this_is_dev View Post

      Hey, anyone who's good at FB PPC(NOT name campaigns) but with low or no designing skills want to JV with me can PM me.
      PM sent
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      • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
        Hey guys,

        for those who have fanpages, how many "money posts" do you do during a campaign? Is one "money post" per day too much? Or too little?

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author stevecottom874
    I always try to stay away from Adwords and focus on social media advertising such as facebook. It is amazing how fast you can get good traffic as long as you list it properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author yako
    Hi everyone! lets see if someone can point me on what I am doing wrong...

    I created the design on a 'specific' subject, created targeted ads on Facebook but...

    I spent around $10 and I only got 20 clicks...and here is the strange part .. I got OVER 200 Likes and many shares on my ad!

    It looks like people like the concept and everything but are not willing to buy...

    Does anyone have any suggestion? I will deeply appreciate any tip.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Poor targeting and/or poor design.
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      So all those 'likes' mean nothing? Would you start again with something new or improve this campaign taking into account those likes?

      Thanks a lot for your time!

      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Poor targeting and/or poor design.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I wouldn't say they "mean nothing". I mean, they help spread the word about your product. However, if you are just getting likes, it means the audience you are reaching isn't all that passionate about the niche or the product.

    Whether to start over or improve the campaign would depend on lots about the campaign that I have no knowledge of.
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    • Profile picture of the author candymai
      Hi Petelta, I recognized that Facebook ads cost increased after 9th April. Does your facebook ads cost affected?
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        I haven't seen much of a difference as well. My Name ads, many still active, dropped huge in conversion rates and just ate away at my budget. I'm guessing fb did something to f my 'ish up. I stopped all Name ads and am back to pre-Name strategies (which work even better now I'm more experienced).

        Before anyone asks "what's your strategy?" Just read through this thread and you'll have everything you need.

        Originally Posted by candymai View Post

        Hi Petelta, I recognized that Facebook ads cost increased after 9th April. Does your facebook ads cost affected?
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        • Profile picture of the author candymai
          Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

          I haven't seen much of a difference as well. My Name ads, many still active, dropped huge in conversion rates and just ate away at my budget. I'm guessing fb did something to f my 'ish up. I stopped all Name ads and am back to pre-Name strategies (which work even better now I'm more experienced).

          Before anyone asks "what's your strategy?" Just read through this thread and you'll have everything you need.
          Thanks for your help.

          Im scanning this whole thread to find your strategy. I read it before but not remember clearly. I wonder how much your cost per page post engagement?
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          • Profile picture of the author RadioActiveMedia
            This is the most informative (and truthful) thread about selling on FB I have ever read online. Congratulations to all of you that got in early and made a killing!

            Is this method still worth pursuing for people just starting out, or is it dead for good?
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            • Profile picture of the author zmorris
              So can you not use custom audiences at all anymore or is it just for names? I use social lead freak to get the UIDs of people that have commented or liked posts with in a page and was wonder if that is something you can still do.

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
                Could I get some advice on setting goals on Teespring, pretty please?

                The fanpage has around 40k likes. I posted a photo so the people can choose the t-shirt that will be selling and got around 300 comments, 400 likes and 261 shares.

                I plan on selling the shirt for $19.95, the base cost is $10.50 if I sell 50 shirts.

                Should I set a goal of 50 shirts? More? Less?

                Anyone?

                p.s. Where is the option for a 7 day campaign, I only have for an 8 day campaign? Is this a glitch? :confused:
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                • Profile picture of the author zmorris
                  Originally Posted by Cataleya View Post

                  Could I get some advice on setting goals on Teespring, pretty please?

                  The fanpage has around 40k likes. I posted a photo so the people can choose the t-shirt that will be selling and got around 300 comments, 400 likes and 261 shares.

                  I plan on selling the shirt for $19.95, the base cost is $10.50 if I sell 50 shirts.

                  Should I set a goal of 50 shirts? More? Less?

                  Anyone?

                  p.s. Where is the option for a 7 day campaign, I only have for an 8 day campaign? Is this a glitch? :confused:
                  I usually do goals of 50. If you do not make it to your goal, you can always request a goal drop to as low as 10 and if you pass your goal, they will compensate you 75% of the difference to what the base price would be at that particular number of sales.

                  For example, if you sell 75 shits with a goal of 50, and you base cost at 50 is $10 and the base cost at 75 is $8, then they will pay you as if the base cost were $8.50.

                  Either way, 50 is typically a good number to start with. Good luck!
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              • Profile picture of the author Genycis
                Originally Posted by zmorris View Post

                So can you not use custom audiences at all anymore or is it just for names? I use social lead freak to get the UIDs of people that have commented or liked posts with in a page and was wonder if that is something you can still do.

                Thanks
                I'm actually thinking at this point, that if you're using a teespring url, then custom audiences aren't working regardless of whether it's a name campaign or not. But I'm not completely sure so hopefully someone else can shed light on this. I'm not sure how well I can really make the non-custom audience type interests work. So far no luck with those. lol
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                • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
                  Scaling/$$ question regarding smaller sized audiences!-

                  Hey all!-

                  Say an audience is about 10k. If you are having a solid CTR and spot-on Conversion ratio, say selling 6 units or so from a $10 spend, and out of that $10 spend about 2,000 people see it, would it really make sense to scale it to a daily spend larger than $10?

                  The way I see it, it wouldn't make sense given within the full 7 day campaign, the ad will have been shown to the entire audience of 10k, if its reaching about 2k per day on $10/day..

                  Am I right on this, or does scaling up the daily/$$ amount make sense?

                  Any advice is much appreciated!

                  Thanks.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
                    Guys I need help

                    I posted my shirt (that the fans chose after lots of comments, shares an likes). I set the goal at 50. It˙s been a whole day and only 1 shirt sold which I bough after a couple of hours when I saw no one was buying. Some people were commenting they were gonna buy the shirt but didn`t. The page has 40k fans.


                    Should I request a goal drop? And by how much?
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                    • Profile picture of the author petelta
                      Originally Posted by Cataleya View Post

                      Guys I need help

                      I posted my shirt (that the fans chose after lots of comments, shares an likes). I set the goal at 50. It˙s been a whole day and only 1 shirt sold which I bough after a couple of hours when I saw no one was buying. Some people were commenting they were gonna buy the shirt but didn`t. The page has 40k fans.


                      Should I request a goal drop? And by how much?
                      You'll probably want to drop the goal... I would say to 10 since no one has bought yet. PM your fan page link and tshirt link. I'll be able to give better direction
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                      • Profile picture of the author vipluxury
                        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                        You'll probably want to drop the goal... I would say to 10 since no one has bought yet. PM your fan page link and tshirt link. I'll be able to give better direction
                        Hey there Travis-

                        First off, solid thread man!

                        Any input regarding my question of ramping up the daily spend limit. Its just a few posts above, but here it is again-

                        Say an audience is about 10k. If you are having a solid CTR and spot-on Conversion ratio, say selling 6 units or so from a $10 spend, and out of that $10 spend about 2,000 people see it, would it really make sense to increase the Daily Spend more than $10?

                        The way I see it, it wouldn't make sense given that within the full 7 day campaign, the ad will easily be shown to the entire audience of 10k, if its reaching about 2k per day on $10/day..

                        I could be mistaken from some angle I am not seeing though..

                        Let me know your quick thoughts.. Any and all is much appreciated....
                        Thanks buddy
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    nah, i haven't noticed much difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nam88ita
    Hi all,
    I am doing teespring for a while but still not profitable. I think that my main problem is that I can't find a niche passionate enough to buy a shirt. So I was wondering if u guys use some kind of checklist when you search for a new niche. Like some parameters that tell you yes I should invest some money in this niche.

    Thanks you for all the great information that you guys are already giving.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellter
    Its getting tougher and tougher. Between CA no good any more and saturation, the only profitable campaigns I see are either skirting around and selling to names/birth years or borderline trademark infringement. There are a lot of "This girl Loves ________" Where ______is a musician/performer that are doing quite well but it's just a matter of time it is stopped.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    As far as I've known, you could only lower it if you see that you're not near your goal and need a drop in it. I've never seen a raise goal button though, especially since that would pretty much cut the money they will make if they allowed that.

    You can always pass goal and sell as many as you want (for example, 533 / 20), but you couldn't change the 20 goal to 500 as that would drop the cost per shirt price down, and again, this is why, as far as I know anyway, that they require you to pick a goal early on.

    Hope this helps a bit. If you feel you have a shirt that will easily sell x amount, then go for that goal. If you need to drop it later, do so, but also note, the price per shirt will also go up, so if your base price per shirt was for example, $10.00 each and you are charging people $13.00, dropping the goal midway may then make the base price per shirt $12.50 or more, rendering you hardly, if any profit. Something to keep in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      As far as I've known, you could only lower it if you see that you're not near your goal and need a drop in it. I've never seen a raise goal button though, especially since that would pretty much cut the money they will make if they allowed that.

      You can always pass goal and sell as many as you want (for example, 533 / 20), but you couldn't change the 20 goal to 500 as that would drop the cost per shirt price down, and again, this is why, as far as I know anyway, that they require you to pick a goal early on.

      Hope this helps a bit. If you feel you have a shirt that will easily sell x amount, then go for that goal. If you need to drop it later, do so, but also note, the price per shirt will also go up, so if your base price per shirt was for example, $10.00 each and you are charging people $13.00, dropping the goal midway may then make the base price per shirt $12.50 or more, rendering you hardly, if any profit. Something to keep in mind.
      Thank you, that was very helpful! I have a WSO on Teespring and Facebook, and the WSO owner says that you can send an email to Teespring so that they raise your goal, that`s why I was confused.
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    Even if you lower your goal or started it out at say 50 and hit 100+ then Teespring will pay you a % of what you would have made had you set it to a higher goal. Sorry, can't remember the exact percentage.

    For example, I had a campaign that was set to 50. It ended up doing 107/50. Instead of getting something like $1,700 or whatever (where roughly my profit per hoodie was around $17) I got over $1,900.

    Too lazy to figure the percentages but just saying as long as you go over your goal, you'll get slightly higher payouts than if you just hit your goal.

    Hope that makes sense
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      Even if you lower your goal or started it out at say 50 and hit 100+ then Teespring will pay you a % of what you would have made had you set it to a higher goal. Sorry, can't remember the exact percentage.

      For example, I had a campaign that was set to 50. It ended up doing 107/50. Instead of getting something like $1,700 or whatever (where roughly my profit per hoodie was around $17) I got over $1,900.

      Too lazy to figure the percentages but just saying as long as you go over your goal, you'll get slightly higher payouts than if you just hit your goal.

      Hope that makes sense
      Did not know that! Got it, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author cayne
    Great to see some actually _good_ advice around here. Very interesting setup and I'm glad to see it's working out for you!

    Thanks for sharing - I'm not going to try it, but like I said, it doesn't happen too often to find actual good informations around here!
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  • Profile picture of the author famethemes
    @Cataleya: Let try your first campaign if it not work then try with a CPA offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neuveville
    Great post
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  • Profile picture of the author YuriBoyka
    I saw this amazing app called OpenBook that lets you analyze your ads. I just made a new ad for the last 24-hours and I accidentally made it active (I am waiting till the right hours). Anyways, I saw that 99% of the people that clicked on my ads came from mobile. Now, I understand that the majoirty of Travis's traffic also came from mobile, but I do not believe the conversion-rate from mobile is as high as it would be from desktop (doing payments is easier from desktop), so I am going to experiment with desktop-only news feed ads. Basically I spent money on not-converting clicks, not a lot though, because the ad was only active for 30 minutes (2200 reach, 25 clicks). However, I find it worthy enough to experiment a little bit.

    Would like to hear some of your opinions, especially the ones that had a good conversion-rate from mobile.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoelDean
    You can join groups related to your niche and don't submit or post your intended offer first. Make it natural to blend into the group by helping and giving advices, thru these building credibility and trust and it's easy to promote now any offers you would like with ease.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoelDean
    Yes Facebook Advertising really do make you instant profits if done correctly - but there are lots of hurdles in between especially to beginners aside from the fat that you'll invest for ads fee.
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    Too much content for free in this thread alone. Thank'd .
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  • Profile picture of the author SethLogan
    nice work, how long did it take you to be in profit? Were there a lot of other failed campaigns before this?
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  • Excellent information, I like your post is focused to convert.
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    I've learned a lot over the years. This month on Udemy, I am over $9k, and that is for art courses. I haven't yet created my "How I Make $5000+ a month with Udemy and Amazon" course yet. I need to, though. I have a lot of to share on how to create a sucessful Udemy and Amazon income.
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