How I turned $250 in Facebook ads into $810 revenue within 3 days...

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What's up guys?

Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

Take a look at my latest one...



$260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

I'll take it!

This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

TARGETING!!!!

Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

Travis
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Great post petelta

    More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.

    Anyway... Teespring + FB Ads is definitely worth doing, and you can even make a helluva lot more than the numbers you posted.

    The only flaw with is that getting paid from Teespring takes a little while, but besides that, it's a rock-solid method.

    Keep on keepin' on!
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      Awesome post with lots of detailed and helpful information! I love how you explained your entire system which leads to the questions I have. Based on my understanding that you are uploading 10 to 20 designs per day done by your designer for $50 to $300 per day in design costs plus creating all of the ad campaigns for $100 to $400 total to find the few campaigns that catch on, I am assuming you are happy with the amount of your investment in time and money with the outcome in payouts from teespring? If others want to try this, would I be correct in saying they would need to either be able to do their own designs and ads along with having a line of either credit or cash capable of withstanding the initial investment prior to getting paid by teespring?

      Finally, I have just started seeing teespring ads today. What are the odds those are yours?
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by banwork View Post

        Awesome post with lots of detailed and helpful information! I love how you explained your entire system which leads to the questions I have. Based on my understanding that you are uploading 10 to 20 designs per day done by your designer for $50 to $300 per day in design costs plus creating all of the ad campaigns for $100 to $400 total to find the few campaigns that catch on, I am assuming you are happy with the amount of your investment in time and money with the outcome in payouts from teespring? If others want to try this, would I be correct in saying they would need to either be able to do their own designs and ads along with having a line of either credit or cash capable of withstanding the initial investment prior to getting paid by teespring?

        Finally, I have just started seeing teespring ads today. What are the odds those are yours?
        The tshirt designs needed cost around $5-$25 depending on the designer you get. Most of my successful campaigns are straight text that I created with the Teespring editor itself. So a lot of those shirts, I'm not spending a dime on design.

        I spend $20 on every tshirt campaign I start. When it gets to $20, I see if it's in the black or the red. If it's in the black, that means it's making money and I let it ride until it lulls. If it's in the red, I stop the campaign all together and drop it.

        Out of 10, I'm averaging 3 winners that will do like the one in the post above. 1/10 of those winners though are big winners that make thousands of dollars.

        I started this method last month and spent a total of $500. That was learning and figuring it out. I ended up with a revenue of around $1500 from December.

        This month, I set aside $8k for this project. That's for designers, ads, and VAs. I'm on track to revenue $20k with that $8k though. Next month, I will go bigger.

        If you like any sports teams on Facebook, there's a good chance you've seen one of my ads lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          The tshirt designs needed cost around $5-$25 depending on the designer you get. Most of my successful campaigns are straight text that I created with the Teespring editor itself. So a lot of those shirts, I'm not spending a dime on design.

          I spend $20 on every tshirt campaign I start. When it gets to $20, I see if it's in the black or the red. If it's in the black, that means it's making money and I let it ride until it lulls. If it's in the red, I stop the campaign all together and drop it.

          Out of 10, I'm averaging 3 winners that will do like the one in the post above. 1/10 of those winners though are big winners that make thousands of dollars.

          I started this method last month and spent a total of $500. That was learning and figuring it out. I ended up with a revenue of around $1500 from December.

          This month, I set aside $8k for this project. That's for designers, ads, and VAs. I'm on track to revenue $20k with that $8k though. Next month, I will go bigger.

          If you like any sports teams on Facebook, there's a good chance you've seen one of my ads lol.
          Reminds me of a recent article I read:
          The Habits of Successful People: Thinking in Ratios - The Buffer Blog

          Though you may want to watch out for copyright (images logos?) and trademark concerns if you'r riding on sport teams.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by humbledmarket View Post

            Though you may want to watch out for copyright (images logos?) and trademark concerns if you'r riding on sport teams.
            Yea, this is important. You don't want to use trademarks. It only takes being creative to have designs that don't break the law though.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by jamescanz View Post

      Great post petelta

      More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.
      Some people did pay handsomely for this. There was a WSO released on this very subject on Dec 31. The vendor also mentions an important word that there is no danger that both of you would have thought of, "passion".

      Just saying
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by jamescanz View Post

      Great post petelta

      More people need to see this because you basically just gave them information that they would probably had to pay handsomely for.

      Anyway... Teespring + FB Ads is definitely worth doing, and you can even make a helluva lot more than the numbers you posted.

      The only flaw with is that getting paid from Teespring takes a little while, but besides that, it's a rock-solid method.

      Keep on keepin' on!
      Everyone's doing Teespring stuff now....

      I'll give it 6 months before it gets screwed for everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        I'll give it 6 months before it gets screwed for everyone.
        6 months? It's already screwed for everyone. It was only a matter of time before they cracked down.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          6 months? It's already screwed for everyone. It was only a matter of time before they cracked down.
          I still make plenty from Teespring campaigns. But I follow the rules. Teespring isn't the product here too. So this model isn't affected when it comes down to it. Use another vendor and things work just fine.

          The only Facbeook changes happening is they are cracking down on people not following the ToS... if you've used custom audiences in the past, 99% of you are breaking the ToS. No one does custom audiences the way they say in the rules... until now.
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            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            The only Facbeook changes happening is they are cracking down on people not following the ToS... if you've used custom audiences in the past, 99% of you are breaking the ToS. No one does custom audiences the way they say in the rules... until now.
            Do you use custom audiences for your teespring campaign?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Those numbers are great.

    But don't keep all of your eggs in the teespring/facebook basket as I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook decides one day that they don't want hundreds of people running ads like this all at the same time

    But may as well milk it for as much as you can while the gettin is good
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

      Those numbers are great.

      But don't keep all of your eggs in the teespring/facebook basket as I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook decides one day that they don't want hundreds of people running ads like this all at the same time

      But may as well milk it for as much as you can while the gettin is good
      Facebook just changed their whole system so you would do more ads like this

      For every successful tshirt campaign I have, I have a fan page associated with it. As the ads run, some of those viewers like your fan page. From there, it's the same Facebook marketing + list building system I would always do... except promoting the product right away makes back my initial investment instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author R1987x
    I have to admit, awesome work. Great work digging into your target group!
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  • Profile picture of the author sanf0rd1
    Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sanf0rd1 View Post

      Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
      Not true at all. I'm scaling this right now. You just rinse and repeat this. This system is very very new. There are sooooo many untouched niches right now.
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      • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Not true at all. I'm scaling this right now. You just rinse and repeat this. This system is very very new. There are sooooo many untouched niches right now.
        I agree with you. Your systerm has huge potential.
        my suggest is, not limited your products at Teespring, you'd better to extend it to the globe, by this way, your competitors are not able to copy your model easily.
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      • Profile picture of the author davidtye
        Good ROI.
        Make the most of it while it lasts as FB won't allow loads of ads like that all at the same time forever.
        Nice work though.
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    • Profile picture of the author mtree
      Originally Posted by sanf0rd1 View Post

      Good ROI - BUT. this is hard to scale. it's too niche
      exactly right
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      • Profile picture of the author Cataleya
        Okay, I`m confused...

        I`m about to start a Teespring campaign and I thought you could raise your goal later on during the campaign (by emailing them) if you see that you`re selling well?

        But the support staff at Teespring says that you can`t raise your goal once the campaign is started, you can only lower it?

        Can anyone shed some light on this for me please??

        Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author sakib777
    Great technique petelta................ I am willing to have a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author big tymer
    I read your original post and thought what the hell, I will give it a try with a product of mine that is very niche specific. I started on Monday and spent about $19 on fb ads and made sales of $120 on something that costs me $3 to make and I sell for $20.

    The hard part for me is drilling down and finding the target market as I don't want such a general group. But for some reason, pages that have followers that I want to add to my ad group so the ad is shown to them, I am not able to.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Great work! How do you start your bidding? At a high CPC and then bring it down?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Great work! How do you start your bidding? At a high CPC and then bring it down?
      I bid a few cents over the highest suggested big and let it run. I will only adjust up when the suggested rises.

      The cost of the ad itself really comes down to more of the activity on the ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author BKenn01
    Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by BKenn01 View Post

      Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
      Teespring is tightening up more and more on these when they catch them. You have to be creative and not use trademarks. There are many things that would fit fine with Yankees fans without having to use a team logo or even the name.

      Exit the Sandman was a shirt that sold a ton of copies when Mariano... their hall of fame closer... retired. That was a buzz design that hit right on.

      Like I said, it's about creativity.
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      • Profile picture of the author BKenn01
        Thanks for all the help I have been considering this and have an idea for one. Any recommendations on a designer?
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    • Profile picture of the author IMBlest
      Originally Posted by BKenn01 View Post

      Travis, how are so many people getting around the Trade Marks on Teespring. I see a lot of people selling the same designs and many of them include Trade Marked Team names like "God, Family, Yankees" or something like that. Isnt that risky?
      I didn't know that words like "God" and "Family" have been trademarked.

      Where did you get that idea?
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryAllen
    Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
    BA,
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      Originally Posted by BarryAllen View Post

      Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
      BA,
      Like Petelta said...it's about "creativity"...

      Thus, one would be pretty stupid to take an image of a sports team "Logo" and print that up on a T-Shirt and try and sell it....

      However, as given in his example of his Auburn Shirt, what Petelta did was basically became the 'announcer' who is calling the game...BRILLIANT if you ask me!

      Think outside of the box and you should be fine!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by BarryAllen View Post

      Aren't all sports teams names trademarked/copyrighted. Meaning if you get caught printing that shit you'll be facing big-ass lawsuits?
      BA,
      CREATIVITY! Don't use their trademarked names. Yankees might be trademarked, but "New York" isn't. simple stuff like.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    Thanks for all this info, this is awesome. I've already started experimenting (no positive results yet though)

    Question: What are the common aspects that tie together your most successful shirts?

    Copyright question: Are lines from songs or movies copyrighted? If I put a movie quote on a shirt with no symbols or copyrighted character names, is that legal?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      Thanks for all this info, this is awesome. I've already started experimenting (no positive results yet though)

      Question: What are the common aspects that tie together your most successful shirts?

      Copyright question: Are lines from songs or movies copyrighted? If I put a movie quote on a shirt with no symbols or copyrighted character names, is that legal?
      The common aspects to a winner are choosing a social niche and the design. With those two things, you have a winner.

      Lines from movies, tv shows, and movies are wide open for you. I'm actually testing a few right now out there that fit this criteria. I think tey could do well.

      Travis
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    Travis, stupid question, what is VA, and what exactly are they doing for you? thanks and love your business mind!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by wrbeckett View Post

      Travis, stupid question, what is VA, and what exactly are they doing for you? thanks and love your business mind!
      VA = virtual assistant

      My VA researches social media images that can be used as fan page messages... posts fan page messages on all my active pages... and interacts with fans on these fan pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    What's the conversion rate for your successful shirts? How many clicks does it take to get a sale? I've had 18 clicks on my ads so far and 0 sales (I even included the price of the shirts in the ad to possibly avoid people who click just to see the price).

    Is this one you would consider a loss and move on? I've only spent about $5 on ads for it so far, I was going to give it one more day.

    Oh and I have a pretty targeted audience of about 2600.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      What's the conversion rate for your successful shirts? How many clicks does it take to get a sale? I've had 18 clicks on my ads so far and 0 sales (I even included the price of the shirts in the ad to possibly avoid people who click just to see the price).

      Is this one you would consider a loss and move on? I've only spent about $5 on ads for it so far, I was going to give it one more day.

      Oh and I have a pretty targeted audience of about 2600.
      It depends on how many clicks until you get a sale. The key is to watch the profit margin as you spend money. Set a limit you want to test each shirt at and when you hit that point make the choice.

      So, if you set a $20 test point. Let the ads run until $20. Look at how much profit you make per sale and look at how many sales have been made.

      If none, then drop it and move on. If you have made $35 revenue but spent $20 in ads, then beef it up and bid more.

      $5 and 18 clicks is not enough to tell really.

      Also, 2,600 audience is really really small. I'm targeting audiences that range from 30k - 2m
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    This is really helpful information for anybody looking to start a business with limited capital... A great way to build a bank before breaking into different areas in IM!
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    This is awesome! I have a few questions if you don't mind answering:

    1) How do you go about image selection? My newsfeed ads don't scale into the allocated space and it only fits 1/2 of the image in.

    2) How do you track your conversions? At the moment when I'm creating a campaign I'm using the "click to website" feature because I am unsure how to track.

    Thanks very much for your help!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      This is awesome! I have a few questions if you don't mind answering:

      1) How do you go about image selection? My newsfeed ads don't scale into the allocated space and it only fits 1/2 of the image in.

      2) How do you track your conversions? At the moment when I'm creating a campaign I'm using the "click to website" feature because I am unsure how to track.

      Thanks very much for your help!
      1 - Not sure what you mean here. You have to make the images fit whichever add type you're creating... side bar ads = 100x72... newsfeed ads = 600 x 315 (or something like that)

      2 - I only watch the profit compared to the ad spend. So, I only use "click to website" option as well. CTR, amount of clicks, cost per click, etc mean very little to me. The only thing I care about is "am I making more money than I'm spending on this"
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      • Profile picture of the author tazman100
        Hi Petelta, I don't know if you'll answer this question but it's worth a shot to ask. I've been running Teespring campaigns for a couple of months with no success. I have done CPC with no sales, CPM with 1 and Boosted page for a couple of sales. I run between $5-10 before I call it quits. Could you give us an example of a type of ad you may run? Don't need to specify niche just a rough idea. I'm not sure if I'm wording my ads wrong or what the case is. Some shirts I got designed were really good designs in my opinion and I use a layout of the shirt in my ad or a close up of the graphic in my ads. I have also put a price tag on the picture showing the "regular" price crossed out and added the "sale" price. But no luck. I know money can be made here but I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm also targeting my audience related to the niche I'm promoting the shirt for but still no luck
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by tazman100 View Post

          Hi Petelta, I don't know if you'll answer this question but it's worth a shot to ask. I've been running Teespring campaigns for a couple of months with no success. I have done CPC with no sales, CPM with 1 and Boosted page for a couple of sales. I run between $5-10 before I call it quits. Could you give us an example of a type of ad you may run? Don't need to specify niche just a rough idea. I'm not sure if I'm wording my ads wrong or what the case is. Some shirts I got designed were really good designs in my opinion and I use a layout of the shirt in my ad or a close up of the graphic in my ads. I have also put a price tag on the picture showing the "regular" price crossed out and added the "sale" price. But no luck. I know money can be made here but I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm also targeting my audience related to the niche I'm promoting the shirt for but still no luck
          Here's an example ad I have running this morning...


          Targets people 16-No Max age that are interested in Contra and Nintendo
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole Thomas
    I have been using FaceBook just to promote my guest posts but was not aware of these techniques. I will certainly give it a try too.
    Thanks for sharing this useful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author karenfisher252
    Facebook is now extending its services to all niches. With so many options to use Facebook ads for like website traffic, page likes, app installs etc. They are not only doing it but doing it really well.
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    Hey Petelta,

    Thank you for sharing you Experience with Facebook ads.
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    Great idea, petelta! It proves that facebook is not dead! Just have to make a good advertisement and good targeting and the things will be start!
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    Sounds like fun! Thinking about it ;-)
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    Also, 2,600 audience is really really small. I'm targeting audiences that range from 30k - 2m
    Well there's my problem. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author partyfavor
    Great post Patelta!

    Question for you (and any other experts in the thread), do you recommend cloaking the teespring link in your ad? Reason why I am wondering about that is from the posts about getting your account banned due to affiliate links etc...

    I know a great way to do the marketing is advertise your FB page first. then from there post your offer, BUT with all these constant algorithm changes its absurd to spend money building a page and then only hitting 5-10% of them (and need to spend money again to boost your post to your own fans).

    I want to skip that middle part, forget the faceb page, and not waste time and money. Just directly advertise the shirt/offer and thus target interested buyers from all over FB (not just my own page, forget the page =)

    dangerous move now with them looking at aff links more carefully?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by partyfavor View Post

      Great post Patelta!

      Question for you (and any other experts in the thread), do you recommend cloaking the teespring link in your ad? Reason why I am wondering about that is from the posts about getting your account banned due to affiliate links etc...

      I know a great way to do the marketing is advertise your FB page first. then from there post your offer, BUT with all these constant algorithm changes its absurd to spend money building a page and then only hitting 5-10% of them (and need to spend money again to boost your post to your own fans).

      I want to skip that middle part, forget the faceb page, and not waste time and money. Just directly advertise the shirt/offer and thus target interested buyers from all over FB (not just my own page, forget the page =)

      dangerous move now with them looking at aff links more carefully?
      I don't cloak my links. A lot of the times these days, I create redirect pages though because I have so many campaigns going on and I switch up where traffic should go sometimes.

      Facebook bans users for promoting affiliate offers that are against their TOS... they love for you to promote affiliate products on the other hand.

      Sending viewers straight to a landing page is another way of going about this for sure. You will want to make sure your sales funnel is set up to convert over the long run though. I run these teespring ad so that I make my investment back within 24 hours instead of waiting for an email series to make sales days or even weeks later.

      I add those email systems in as well, but after the initial sale. Also, a perk of this system is that your ad is being posted from a niche specific fan page... so people that click but don't buy usually end up liking your fan page anyways. So you can market on all ends to continue selling to this crowd.

      My recent batch of shirts are all around 3 niches. I want to grow thes 3 niche fan pages to the 10k mark while selling shit tons of shirts to them. Then I just follow my typical facebook marketing sequence. Even though the algorithm has changed and organic traffic has dropped, it's still there... and if you can generate fans while still making profit, you are set.
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    Hey Travis, are you creating fan pages, or posting on existing fan pages? thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by wrbeckett View Post

      Hey Travis, are you creating fan pages, or posting on existing fan pages? thanks!
      I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

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      • Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

        Travis
        I purchased your facebook ads video course because I need to learn how to hardness the power of facebook ads, for my art courses and other things.

        Question: How do you turn facebook pages into an email list? Do you need to use special software?

        I hope to learn a lot from your course like the part about custom audiences, which I images uses scraping.

        Thanks for your time.

        I have some cool idea for T-shirt and niches. Originally, I only read this thread to learn more about facebook ads. I had no interests in selling shirts, but this got so many ideas rolling that I think I could sell shirts and hoodies. I imagine hoodies really bring in the money, but I wonder if they do so well in spring and summer.

        I just have to figure out once I have a cool niche idea, people that are very passionate about a subject, do I make 10 different designs for that niche, or just a few?
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      • Profile picture of the author dyerg
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        I create a fan page for any design niches that I don't already have a fan page in. I am trying to stay in certain niches, so that the ads not only sell the shirts, but grow the fan pages.... which in turn grows my email list... which in turn grows my monthly income.

        Travis
        Petelta, I'm new to this side of the world (internet marketing) and I came to Warrior Forum today specifically to see if I can find some information on Teespring and Facebook so thank you for your post. I'm really happy for your success, excited about the opportunity, and jealous of your results lol.

        My brother introduced me to Teespring and he made a couple shirt designs and they happen to be in a pretty good niche (in my opinion). He had no idea how to market it so I wanted to try what I've been learning about target marketing on facebook. I did UID scraping for the niche and got about 95k uid's and I was soooo sure we will be able to sell 100 shirts in no time (that's the goal my brother set).

        I'm starting to think the goal was too high but regardless of the high goal, we sold 1 shirt in the past 3 days of advertising... My ad is getting good exposure and I have over 600 likes on the ad itself but it's not converting to purchases.... Am I just in the wrong niche? Is it just that these people don't want to spend money? Or should I be able to sell this but it's not happening because I'm doing it wrong? Any comment will be greatly appreciated...
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          Originally Posted by dyerg View Post

          Petelta, I'm new to this side of the world (internet marketing) and I came to Warrior Forum today specifically to see if I can find some information on Teespring and Facebook so thank you for your post. I'm really happy for your success, excited about the opportunity, and jealous of your results lol.

          My brother introduced me to Teespring and he made a couple shirt designs and they happen to be in a pretty good niche (in my opinion). He had no idea how to market it so I wanted to try what I've been learning about target marketing on facebook. I did UID scraping for the niche and got about 95k uid's and I was soooo sure we will be able to sell 100 shirts in no time (that's the goal my brother set).

          I'm starting to think the goal was too high but regardless of the high goal, we sold 1 shirt in the past 3 days of advertising... My ad is getting good exposure and I have over 600 likes on the ad itself but it's not converting to purchases.... Am I just in the wrong niche? Is it just that these people don't want to spend money? Or should I be able to sell this but it's not happening because I'm doing it wrong? Any comment will be greatly appreciated...

          I think you have the right niche, but not a great design.
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          • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
            Originally Posted by airpr23 View Post

            I think you have the right niche, but not a great design.
            Agreed. If you are getting a lot of likes and shares, but not sales, it's probably the design.
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            • Profile picture of the author dyerg
              Originally Posted by Missouri31 View Post

              Agreed. If you are getting a lot of likes and shares, but not sales, it's probably the design.
              Agh... It's a simple front and a really cool back design (at least imo)... Same thing is happening to another niche we chose... cpc rate is little higher because we went with a bit bigger niche to see if number of audience will increase sale... 0 sale so far (4 days) fml..

              What would you guys suggest as far as design? Will getting a contract designer to make one yield better result? Or does that still take my own creativity? (as in I should probably look somewhere else since my design ideas are not being accepted the same way to others, which will suck but truth is truth I guess.)
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I thought I would add a little motivation to you guys who are following this post.

    You saw my results from week 1 with the free methods in the post I linked to in the beginning... You saw week 2 results from the image in the original thread above... now here is week 3 from rinsing and repeating...



    I've spent around $1000 total in ads for the campaigns above. I would of been able to break $10k in a single week if Facebook would take raise my damn daily spending limit. I'm stuck at $350/day right now.
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      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      I thought I would add a little motivation to you guys who are following this post.

      You saw my results from week 1 with the free methods in the post I linked to in the beginning... You saw week 2 results from the image in the original thread above... now here is week 3 from rinsing and repeating...



      I've spent around $1000 total in ads for the campaigns above. I would of been able to break $10k in a single week if Facebook would take raise my damn daily spending limit. I'm stuck at $350/day right now.
      IMPRESIVE! I am so glad this is working; thanks for sharing, glad to hear of your results
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    great, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

    Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

    I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

    Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

      Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

      I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      At the end of the day its all about testing.

      You are losing in the morning and winning in the afternoon. What does that tell you? Stop advertising in the morning and concentrate in the afternoon lol. Remember shops, for example, will have their busy hours. During the day when people are working their busy hours will be around lunch times. Same for internet buying. When someones on lunch they will invariably go on to FB "just to see whats happening".

      Me personally I find it a goldmine, but only if you have the right idea and target the right people. I punted an idea over on the CPA sub forum, thats just one of hundreds I have lol
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        At the end of the day its all about testing.

        You are losing in the morning and winning in the afternoon. What does that tell you? Stop advertising in the morning and concentrate in the afternoon lol. Remember shops, for example, will have their busy hours. During the day when people are working their busy hours will be around lunch times. Same for internet buying. When someones on lunch they will invariably go on to FB "just to see whats happening".
        Excellent advice! I will be adding this to my strategy for sure. I haven't been turning them off at certain times of the day... but I can see why that would help. great stuff.

        With Teespring campaigns, it's all about the scarcity effect of having short campaigns. A good ad will only really hit hard for 3-4 days before it starts to die off. So what has helped me recently is turning off my ads on day 4 or 5. Let them sit until the last day of the Teespring campaign (usually 7-10 days). Turn them back on and they usually hit with big conversions. I have been getting a ton of sales on the last day... but that's because I make it very obvious on the last day that IT'S THE LAST DAY.

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      • Profile picture of the author FingerPicker
        This looks a lot like Harlan Kilsteins program which he sells for 100 bucks!
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      • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
        Being my first post I just find this not credible. If you divide the number of sales into the profit claimed, then the profit per shirt varies from $13 to $17. This means he would be selling t-shirts for a minimum of $22.00 to $30.00 or more plus shipping, depending on the brand of shirt and number of colors in the design. I don't buy this for a minute.
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        • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
          Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

          Being my first post I just find this not credible. If you divide the number of sales into the profit claimed, then the profit per shirt varies from $13 to $17. This means he would be selling t-shirts for a minimum of $22.00 to $30.00 or more plus shipping, depending on the brand of shirt and number of colors in the design. I don't buy this for a minute.
          He´s not selling anything! :rolleyes:

          Conversions means sales, one sale doesn't mean one unit!
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          • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
            The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
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            • Profile picture of the author Missouri31
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
              You should continue your research...because the numbers DO add up. Many people are making $$$ with TeeSpring. The profits listed per shirt are accurate, and selling a shirt for $21.91 is not a ridiculous price, there are probably a few tees at WalMart that sell for that much, lol.

              There are sites you can use to see successful campaigns that have sold anywhere from 10+ to 1000+ shirts. That's proof positive right there for you that $$$ is being made. For the huge number of shirts sold (1000+), it's usually a combo of a good amount of money being spent on ads, PLUS it going viral to at least some degree.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                I didn't say teespring campaigns cannot be successful, most are not due to a variety of factors. Of course there are some very successful campaigns.

                But you are making this guy out to be a guru and I always want to check things first so I do the math. People are wasting their money and I think the math just doesn't add up.

                Examples given:
                $567.91 - 38 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $14.95
                $854.81 - 56 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.26
                $1059.59 - 69 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.36

                All these shirts would have to sell in the $24.13 to $26.11 price range plus shipping, in order to get that kind of profit. And a one color or two color shirt with just printing and a $10 design is not going to sell in the $28.00 to $30.00 price range after you include shipping. Just is not going to happen!!!


                And if you go to walmart to buy a $22 tshirt, then that walmart must be pretty upscale.

                There may be some good advice on this thread, but it must come from credible numbers. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
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                • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  I didn't say teespring campaigns cannot be successful, most are not due to a variety of factors. Of course there are some very successful campaigns.

                  But you are making this guy out to be a guru and I always want to check things first so I do the math. People are wasting their money and I think the math just doesn't add up.

                  Examples given:
                  $567.91 - 38 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $14.95
                  $854.81 - 56 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.26
                  $1059.59 - 69 shirts sold - profit per shirt is $15.36

                  All these shirts would have to sell in the $24.13 to $26.11 price range plus shipping, in order to get that kind of profit. And a one color or two color shirt with just printing and a $10 design is not going to sell in the $28.00 to $30.00 price range after you include shipping. Just is not going to happen!!!


                  And if you go to walmart to buy a $22 tshirt, then that walmart must be pretty upscale.

                  There may be some good advice on this thread, but it must come from credible numbers. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
                  You can´t put shipping there, it´s Teespring´s problem, we don´t handle that, the client pays shippment extra and of course you don´t get comission for that.
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            • Profile picture of the author tiagofreitas
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              The claim is he makes $806.30 profit from 59 shirts sold. Now doing my math, we know that this would mean he would need to make 13.66610... per shirt sold. I don't believe teespring pays $13.66610.. per shirt but maybe $13.67. So to continue, a one color print black Hanes shirt with a target goal of 59 sales (he has a target of 30) would have to sell for $21.91 which is a ridiculous amount to sell a shirt for. All his other examples are similar with profits exceeding $16 per shirt in one example he gives. And throw in shipping, the cost is close to $26.00 in this example. Do the math in his other examples and you will see it doesn't add up.
              I sold 59 shirts at 21.99 with $57 advertising fee´s... It´s possible!
              You just need to target very right and have a good design.

              Remember this thread is to give FREE information, as he is so gladly doing, and your post´s are a bit bad...

              You can´t do it, try to do it, if you can´t, don´t say it´s impossible.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                Free information still needs to be good information. And shipping is a cost to the customer that is added on to the shirt. The customer must pay this so a $25 shirt plus $3.95 shipping is $28.95 for a one color, Hanes, $10 designed tshirt.

                If you want to sell tshirts, you want good designs and you are willing to spend money on facebook advertising, which is why I am here originally (learning about facebook advertising), you can PM me. I think the teespring model is a pretty good one and can be adapted better.
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                • Profile picture of the author petelta
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  Free information still needs to be good information. And shipping is a cost to the customer that is added on to the shirt. The customer must pay this so a $25 shirt plus $3.95 shipping is $28.95 for a one color, Hanes, $10 designed tshirt.

                  If you want to sell tshirts, you want good designs and you are willing to spend money on facebook advertising, which is why I am here originally (learning about facebook advertising), you can PM me. I think the teespring model is a pretty good one and can be adapted better.
                  The campaigns are definitely legit... I have released multiple case studies showing how it's done.... here you go:

                  Case Study #1 - https://s3.amazonaws.com/TeeProfitPu...CaseStudy.html
                  Case Study #2 - https://s3.amazonaws.com/TeeProfitPu...CaseStudy.html

                  There are many variables that come into play when your profit per campaign is calculated... the amount of colors your use... the color of the base tshirt... the style of the base shirt... the goal amount you start with...

                  All of those factors can help you make more per sale and I go for max profit per sale each campaign.

                  As you said in your first post, you are new here and have no credibility... maybe you should learn to do a little more research before being a dick. Naysayers are a disease for the successful. You won't be welcomed long if you don't.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennisr32
        I am researching getting into TeeSpring, so I am looking at a lot of resources. Has anyone had any experience with the product Teesplit? I gues it lets you split test different designs and then run with the best one. Any input would be great.

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      • Profile picture of the author kajuma
        Thanks for sharing this, Petelta. I've realized a little while back that running ads on Facebook may very well be more profitable than Google ads, simply because of the ability to really target a specific audience.

        It's awesome to see positive results coming from someone that has actually been making it work for them.

        I like the idea of getting a VA to interact on my behalf, because I couldn't imagine responding to everyone that posts or comments.
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        Very nice 5 Stars
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      Sounds like you're doing good then.

      You probably need either to find a more passionate or buzz worthy niche... or you need to improve the shirt design.

      If your campaigns are breaking even or making a small profit, you're only 1 tweak away from making more profit. Now it's time for you to test all the different angles.

      When I release my new designs, I am launching 10 new designs a day. Out of those designs 2-3 usually will start to roll. That means they just break even or better. That's a win in my book... especially when you're building a fan page/list from the same traffic that you can continue to promote to. That's pretty much free buyer leads.

      It doesn't end there though. I start testing ads, interests, and shirt design variations from each of those winners. Sometimes a simple color change on the shirt makes something sell 10x more. I test that... if the bad one is at worst breaking even... then the good ones are going to be GOOD.

      Keep testing man. You're right around the corner from making some serious cash.
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    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      Teespring for me has been a rollercoaster. Most of the time when I create a new shirt, I get 3-4 sales in 30-40 clicks.. Then I go 100+ and even 200+ clicks without a sale. Has happened 4 times. Last night I created one that got 2 separate sales in 10 clicks. I've gone 37 clicks without a sale since then

      Also, in the past 3 days I have burned $80+ in the morning and then make it up in the afternoon. Yesterday I spent about $300 in ads and basically broke even.

      I have 2 ad accounts ($750 and $500 daily limits) but haven't had the chance to think about scaling all the way.

      Overall I'm about even or maybe even made a tiny profit.
      Hey sackanub,

      Have you considered day-parting your ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    What's the advantage to using TeeSpring as opposed to a more permanent site? Since there's a time limit on TeeSpring you only have X days to make sales AND you have to fill your quota to make anything.

    I have an account on Society6 that, with a few simple steps in photoshop, allows me to have shirts (many colors), sweatshirts, tank tops, art prints, mugs, pillows, laptop and iPhone skins all available for sale permanently. I'm sure you're aware that there are sites like this one and others, so I'm curious why you choose TeeSpring.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      What's the advantage to using TeeSpring as opposed to a more permanent site? Since there's a time limit on TeeSpring you only have X days to make sales AND you have to fill your quota to make anything.

      I have an account on Society6 that, with a few simple steps in photoshop, allows me to have shirts (many colors), sweatshirts, tank tops, art prints, mugs, pillows, laptop and iPhone skins all available for sale permanently. I'm sure you're aware that there are sites like this one and others, so I'm curious why you choose TeeSpring.
      It's a hot platform right now. Plus it goes with Facebook traffic very well.

      In the long run, a drop ship system will be set up.
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    Nice earnings and good ROI mate!

    Now rinse and repeat. The niche is a big one, that's true, but there is a piece of this cake for everybody, people won't ever stop buying shirts =)
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Thanks for the responses icon and petelta.. And yea, last night before going to bed I paused the campaign I have been pumping the most money to. I unpaused it a few hours ago and with $12 I have made $60. It's just so random that in the mornings even when I get 100+ clicks it doesnt convert. The longest streak I've gone is 250+ website clicks without a conversion after converting 4 in first 36 clicks. Is this happening to you guys?

    Last night I also made one where I had 2 separate conversions in 10 clicks.. It has been 50 clicks since that and haven't had any more conversions. So frustrating when you think you have a winner but you don't.

    BTW, what are you guys pricing your hoodies?
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
    I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

    32 clicks to website
    38 cents per click (to website)
    Advert Reach 1490
    Total Clicks 60
    4 Page Likes
    Total Spend $12
    0 sales.

    At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
      I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

      32 clicks to website
      38 cents per click (to website)
      Advert Reach 1490
      Total Clicks 60
      4 Page Likes
      Total Spend $12
      0 sales.

      At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
      I would let it go another $8 and then decide... but it would be on my list of potential drops at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      So I've been running a campaign for a viral trend that I've noticed. Audience is 100k.
      I have been using the optimal cpm which has resulted in

      32 clicks to website
      38 cents per click (to website)
      Advert Reach 1490
      Total Clicks 60
      4 Page Likes
      Total Spend $12
      0 sales.

      At this point would you drop the campaign and create a new design?
      Looks pretty similar to mine. I have made 4 sales but nothing since Sunday. I am tempted to put the ad on hold and see if I can make any sales between now and the day my listing dies off.

      I do have 60 likes on my teespring ad but only the handful if sales.

      If anyone wants to chat on Skype to talk about this method, send me a PM.
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        How are you guys making out today? It has been my worst day by far. 0 conversions in nearly 200 website clicks throughout my campaigns. My last design I spent 450 and made 300 profit. I improved the design by adding elements to it and making it look better but it doesn't sell. Actually, just sold 2 while typing this.
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        • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
          Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

          How are you guys making out today? It has been my worst day by far. 0 conversions in nearly 200 website clicks throughout my campaigns. My last design I spent 450 and made 300 profit. I improved the design by adding elements to it and making it look better but it doesn't sell. Actually, just sold 2 while typing this.
          I did bad myself. Not a single sale since Sunday. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. On the teespring site my ad has nearly 100 likes. There are some others that have sold in the hundreds that have only a few likes. Not that likes are the end all be all, but you'd think there would be a little correlation. I have 4 sales out of those 100 likes and over 250 click throughs from my FB ad.

          For now I'm putting my ad on pause, no sense spending good money after bad. Meanwhile I'm going to try some other campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    I love this thread. Your sharing for nothing in return (except for some possible competition!) is very refreshing, and your idea is well thought out.

    A couple questions:
    1. Do you have any suggestions for someone who doesn't have a couple hundred dollars to experiment with? I have a little money to play with, but if you had to start this whole thing over and only had, let's say, $50 or $100, what would you do? Cheaper ads in other countries? Posting in Facebook groups?

    2. What are the numbers of your most successful shirt so far? I noticed on TeeSpring if I want to sell a shirt for a reasonable price my profit margin is only about 1-3 dollars (and that's with a campaign of 40 shirts). You have mentioned making thousands, which implies selling thousands of one shirt. Is that true? How many clicks did it take to sell those X,000 shirts? That's what I'm interested in. What's the conversion rate for a successful campaign for you?

    3. Are you (or anybody else reading this who has a Facebook shirt page) interested in a page sharing exchange? Can't hurt to ask. Let me know.

    Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jmitchell View Post

      A couple questions:
      1. Do you have any suggestions for someone who doesn't have a couple hundred dollars to experiment with? I have a little money to play with, but if you had to start this whole thing over and only had, let's say, $50 or $100, what would you do? Cheaper ads in other countries? Posting in Facebook groups?

      2. What are the numbers of your most successful shirt so far? I noticed on TeeSpring if I want to sell a shirt for a reasonable price my profit margin is only about 1-3 dollars (and that's with a campaign of 40 shirts). You have mentioned making thousands, which implies selling thousands of one shirt. Is that true? How many clicks did it take to sell those X,000 shirts? That's what I'm interested in. What's the conversion rate for a successful campaign for you?

      3. Are you (or anybody else reading this who has a Facebook shirt page) interested in a page sharing exchange? Can't hurt to ask. Let me know.
      1. I started this 3 weeks ago just promoting through groups using no ads. If you're going to go free technique ways, it's imperative you go after super hot buzz niches that are being talked about NOW.

      You can have great success with $100, but I would try and have $500 available to get this rolling.

      2. The most shirts I sold was 220 and I was making only a few dollars per shirt. So I profited $1000 from that campaign. My second biggest campaign has sold 78 shirts. I have them priced higher than average and make a much bigger profit per sale. I think I've profited around $600 from those 78 sales.

      You can sell hoodies exclusively for some campaigns around $39.99 and make $20+ per sale.

      The shirt campaigns that sell 1000+ copies typically revenue $12k-$20k. I've only seen others do it so far... but I'm only 3 weeks in to this so one is coming soon enough.

      3. haven't seen one
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    3. haven't seen one
    Sorry, maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. I just meant, I share one of your pages on my Facebook page and you share mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I have had no luck at all. Tons of likes, (over 100 for one shirt) but NO sales haha!

    For some reason, the News Feed ads raise from approx .32c when kicking off the ad, to about $4 for suggested bid. It's crazy! Ads pretty much stop unless you pitch near the suggested bid rate which is ludicrous!

    I'll throw another $1000 at this gig and if no success, will eat my hat and move on
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    So then, which one of you is "Koolnerd" on Fiverr?
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    • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      So then, which one of you is "Koolnerd" on Fiverr?
      Man - all it takes is one I guess. He's even selling the exact sales banner file images that Don Wilson gave away in one of his videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Will give him a go
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    What method do you use for ads?

    CPC
    CPM
    Optimized CPM

    I've been trying this for a few weeks and my cost per click is simply too high. I set up a couple of campaigns using "Clicks to Website" and Facebook was also charging me for page likes, so I was paying something like $1.50 per click. I'm obviously doing something wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author john5171
    try a better variety of methods
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  • Profile picture of the author vanbino
    HI,

    i have been trying teespring and facebook ads for some time and i have had no luck, now i am looking for people that are doing the same and maybe start a skype group and we can help each other out to see if we can make it work, if you are interested contact me here in the wf
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by vanbino View Post

      HI,

      i have been trying teespring and facebook ads for some time and i have had no luck, now i am looking for people that are doing the same and maybe start a skype group and we can help each other out to see if we can make it work, if you are interested contact me here in the wf
      In theory an ok idea however it will never happen.

      Teespring and FB is a fairly recent money making partnership however the niches are fairly limited. Because you are targetting passion interests, it limits the amount of areas you can target. And when someone thinks of an area to target you can bet someone else has thought of it as well.

      And will people be willing to share these targets?? Hell no.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    I've got 4 Patriots hoodies near the top of my newsfeed at the moment. Getting too crowded.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Told you this should be private and a paid for wso....every man and his dog will start doing this if this thread stays live and then we will all be at a loss
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

      Told you this should be private and a paid for wso....every man and his dog will start doing this if this thread stays live and then we will all be at a loss
      There's plenty of room for everybody. Most people won't be able to do it. They give up too easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Nicoli, don't be like that, Karma is good thing!
    And trust me, you can give ppl the golden recipe and still they fail to take action or give up to soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Haha I know, I am just being selfish

    Yeah seriously, some top people will knock all the smaller guys out. I have a shitload of money to invest in this and want to give it a good crack, although I fear being pushed out. All the ads I had running yesterday for example @ .22c CPC went up to $4! Like I said, I am just being selfish haha
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    I understand your point, but you can take it in another direction. The Idea is great and I'm sure now a few more people are doing it but soon it will die. So keep your money for a later date.
    You can also hit your local target, find other ways to advertise then fb. You never know !
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      I understand your point, but you can take it in another direction. The Idea is great and I'm sure now a few more people are doing it but soon it will die. So keep your money for a later date.
      You can also hit your local target, find other ways to advertise then fb. You never know !
      All good points. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Tbh its all about the niche you target and thanks to FB group and pages there are literally thousands of areas to target. Whether they turn out to be buyers is up to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    I've got one going with 6% CTR and 17 cent website clicks but they are poor. No buyers
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    This is certainly proving to be a challenge but everyday I'm learning something new and having little aha moments.

    I have launched 5 campaigns. Killed 3 early and let 2 get to around $20.

    I have 0 sales on any of these despite decent click through rates and less than 0.40c per website click.

    But I'd be foolish to expect success this early if petelta is 3/10 in profitable campaigns. If anyone would like to Skype P.M me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmitchell
    I got two sales! Yay!
    Unfortunately I need 18 more in the next 4 days or I get nothing. :'(
    But still... it's an improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    petelta, how have you been doing these past few days? Still owning the game?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      petelta, how have you been doing these past few days? Still owning the game?


      $10k next week is the goal.
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      • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
        Travis...

        It's unfortunate that your pattern of response to people who may question you is to resort to name calling. I did research. Let's look at your claims:

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post



        $10k next week is the goal.
        Let's investigate the WAR EAGLE! shirt that you claim sold 220 shirts for a profit of $1220.05. A profit of only $5.45 per shirt.

        And let's use google to find this item on teespring.
        The search terms would be: teespring.com "This campaign ended on 12/24/13" "WAR EAGLE!" "220 sold towards goal of" .

        This turns up no search result. By the way those terms are very useful for finding teespring campaigns, just don't include the number before "sold towards a goal of".

        So let's do another search on your item without the 220 and we come up with ==> WAR EAGLE! Auburn Wins The Iron Bowl! | Teespring where we see 22 shirts sold.

        So I question your numbers. They don't add up. I'm not questioning if this system works, I think it is a great idea, I wish I had thought of it a long time ago. I'm questioning the numbers you have posted.

        Show us the link to that 220 shirts sold WAR EAGLE! campaign that ended 12/24/13. Simple!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author hpz
          Link is no longer there. After he finished the campaign he either relaunched and changed or not changed the design which is common, or the link expired and was given to someone else. Trust me when I say this, he sold those shirts and made a killing, so instead of looking for scam go and start making t-shirts.
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          • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
            Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

            I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
            Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author hpz
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
              When you relaunch campaign on teespring it's being relaunched on the same url, meaning his old campaign was on the same url as the present one. So the old campaign page is no longer available.
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
              omg would you just go away. Nobody likes your posts, and nobody gives a shit what you think. We are making mega bucks, so leave the thread before you get more egg on your face.
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              • Profile picture of the author victordpeter
                Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

                omg would you just go away. Nobody likes your posts, and nobody gives a shit what you think. We are making mega bucks, so leave the thread before you get more egg on your face.
                So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.
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                • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                  But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                  Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                  1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                  2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                  3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                  4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                  I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                  I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                  So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.

                  Cool story, thanks. But I'll never grow up and never stop telling negative Nancys' like you to shutup. I won't entertain any further discussions worth you, frankly it's not worth my time. Carry on everybody
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                  • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
                    I thought about setting up my own t-shirt site. Teespring is nice, but I can't keep a positive ROI on most of my campaigns. I get plenty of sales, but ad costs is just too great. Putting all my designs on a site and using Teespring to get an idea of how people will except them seems like a much better idea. Plus it will be easier to capture email and likes for repeat sales.
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  Bro, I've been living in one of the top hotel/casinos in Las Vegas (costs me $12k per month), have an American Express Centurion, play poker nightly, (google it as I'm sure you have no clue what that is), go to the club errryday, meet amazing women from across the globe...all thanks to 2-4 hours on Teespring.

                  I want everyone in here to be doing the same as this is where I was able to learn to fine-tune my TS approach. I'm sure there are those making way more than me!

                  I have personally messaged Travis and have used info from his replies to make my TS system more efficient. You attack him because he's been the most helpful with what works. So again, leave us and return to your minimum-wage hourly job, where you can bitch and whine about the rest of us who're doing well.

                  And for the rest of you still starting out....read and learn from this thread, see what other people are selling (use Teeview), understand why they have sales in the thousands, and launch your future viral listings. Ask questions, post success stories...pretty much don't be a DicVic

                  Oh, when women ask what it is I do...I do not say "i sell t-shirts." That gets no play. I reply with "I own a marketing consulting firm..."

                  Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

                  So roll your eyes toward heaven, pray to your God, voice your expert opinion on what you think people care about, say you are making mega bucks (I like that, makes me smile), tell the bully to go away or you or going to throw an egg at their face. Really helpful post. My apologies to your fragile character, I didn't know you would get so upset. So sorry.

                  But here is my opinion anyways!!!!

                  Thru this journey, Travis has given some very good insight and tips on how to build a legitimate, long term business.

                  1.) He says to "Build Your Assets". And this is where I think he has found the magic beans.
                  2.) He has figured out targeted niche marketng on facebook can extrapolate into a very good return on investment. He has figured out what type of advertising, the budget, the ad, the size of the target, etc. works for him.
                  3.) He has gone from a crappy, simple design to a more sophisticated product, you can follow his case studies and see the designs got better and better over time.
                  4.) He has figured out how to leverage his designs, the wash, rinse, repeat theory.

                  I never knocked this idea. In fact, I said it was a great idea. What I have said that some of the numbers don't make sense to me. And I think the idea could be used in a better way, just a Travis is doing now.

                  I sell between 20 and 100 t-shirts per day, because I have an established t shirt business. I, for my business, at this moment in time, would not use teespring. I want my potential customers to buy on my tshirt site. And then tell their friends or come back and buy again. My tshirts are not for a limited time sale. Although I do use some techniques to create the sense that the customer needs to make a decison or he may not get the design he wants. For me, I think I can use this niche marketing facebook technique (an idea I didn't think of) to my advantage.

                  So in the end, I owe Travis some thanks, even though he called me a dick. But Nicoli, you should just grow up.
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                  • Profile picture of the author hpz
                    Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                    Bro, I've been living in one of the top hotel/casinos in Las Vegas (costs me $12k per month), have an American Express Centurion, play poker nightly, (google it as I'm sure you have no clue what that is), go to the club errryday, meet amazing women from across the globe...all thanks to 2-4 hours on Teespring.

                    I want everyone in here to be doing the same as this is where I was able to learn to fine-tune my TS approach. I'm sure there are those making way more than me!

                    I have personally messaged Travis and have used info from his replies to make my TS system more efficient. You attack him because he's been the most helpful with what works. So again, leave us and return to your minimum-wage hourly job, where you can bitch and whine about the rest of us who're doing well.

                    And for the rest of you still starting out....read and learn from this thread, see what other people are selling (use Teeview), understand why they have sales in the thousands, and launch your future viral listings. Ask questions, post success stories...pretty much don't be a DicVic

                    Oh, when women ask what it is I do...I do not say "i sell t-shirts." That gets no play. I reply with "I own a marketing consulting firm..."
                    You should put this story into sales page, giving the amount of nerds that comes here you'd make a killing
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

              I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

              So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

              And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!

              Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

              Trust me when I say this, I made a million dollars in 3 days and can show you how you can too if you pay me. I can even show you a screenshot. I got bridges to sell, pigs that can fly and all kinds of wonderful things you need before somebody else buys it. Limited time offer!!! Hurry, hurry, hurry!!!!

              I would guess that every link is gone from the above screenshot would be your position.
              Tell us what the link, (active, relaunched or expired) is for the WAR EAGLE! campaign that sold 220 shirts and expired on 12/24/13. I was told to do my research, please help me out. Simple!!!!
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              • Profile picture of the author nicoli
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

                I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

                So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

                And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!
                Haha!

                I'm still waiting for an account manager. Doing between 8 to 15k in profits a week so hopefully won't need to wait too much longer!
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                • Profile picture of the author GeorgeMustang
                  Thanks for post, pretty good approach to niche advertising, simple and easy.
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                • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                  I got an invite a couple months ago and was kinda suspicious at first. I googled the account managers name and saw she seemed like a cool chick (cute too), so I replied.

                  Man, I would email customer service and just tell them you're part of TS thread and saw there are others with similar sales volume like you, and just ask for one. Don't ask for mine tho!
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                  • Profile picture of the author jhunry
                    Hello DrewStevens
                    How much should i spend daily in fb ads if i had 100-200k audience in a working campaign?
                    Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                    I got an invite a couple months ago and was kinda suspicious at first. I googled the account managers name and saw she seemed like a cool chick (cute too), so I replied.

                    Man, I would email customer service and just tell them you're part of TS thread and saw there are others with similar sales volume like you, and just ask for one. Don't ask for mine tho!
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                    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                      Depends...if it's a test campaign, $20...if it's a viral campaign, as much as you can.

                      If a TS listing takes off, I'll raise my daily budget from $20 to sometimes $400-500 until my frequency hits around 1.9...then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.

                      I usually don't exceed $500 per day for a single listing. Hope this helps.

                      Originally Posted by jhunry View Post

                      Hello DrewStevens
                      How much should i spend daily in fb ads if i had 100-200k audience in a working campaign?
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                        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                        then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.
                        would you mind clarifying this? What do you do with hootsuite and your FB ad?

                        thanks
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                        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post


                        If a TS listing takes off, I'll raise my daily budget from $20 to sometimes $400-500 until my frequency hits around 1.9...then I reduce the budget and program hootsuite to attack the associated fb ad until the listing ends.
                        Hellloo Drew!

                        Bestow upon me your wisdoms regarding programming hootsuite to attack the associated FB ad until the listing ends?

                        I'm learning all I can before I throw my money at facebook, scouring these threads/youtube, and since I've never used Facebook ads or the like before, I'm certain there's simple angles I'm missing that could equal major benefits.

                        Me thinks this might lead to one of them.

                        Work smart, not hard. AmIright?

                        **Or if anyone else can answer this, if Drews off the thread.

                        Or better yet, inbox me with some brilliance I'd never figure out on my own.. I'd love you forever and a day.
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                          Originally Posted by Maryjane Burnz View Post

                          Hellloo Drew!

                          Bestow upon me your wisdoms regarding programming hootsuite to attack the associated FB ad until the listing ends?

                          I'm learning all I can before I throw my money at facebook, scouring these threads/youtube, and since I've never used Facebook ads or the like before, I'm certain there's simple angles I'm missing that could equal major benefits.

                          Me thinks this might lead to one of them.

                          Work smart, not hard. AmIright?

                          **Or if anyone else can answer this, if Drews off the thread.

                          Or better yet, inbox me with some brilliance I'd never figure out on my own.. I'd love you forever and a day.
                          Sorry, I've been only on TS and Facebook regarding being online in the past week.. Hootsuite is great for managing social media and I use it to post through my respective fb pages throughout the campaign time, more frequent as time nears expiration. You can sign up for a trial/free account to test it out a bit.

                          And I would require forever and TWO days for this info.

                          Hope this helps..
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                            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                            Sorry, I've been only on TS and Facebook regarding being online in the past week.. Hootsuite is great for managing social media and I use it to post through my respective fb pages throughout the campaign time, more frequent as time nears expiration. You can sign up for a trial/free account to test it out a bit.

                            And I would require forever and TWO days for this info.

                            Hope this helps..
                            Bah. I think I'm heading into that dangerous area of overthinking things, I've had Hootsuite Pro for many moons.. I was just thinking there was some other angle I was missing that boosts ads.. or something.. I don't even know anymore! haha

                            You still get your forever and a day (+1) though, no worries
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                            I wouldn't have pulled a $9k week w/Teespring etc without the help of others, so it's time to pay it forward.
                            I can make a little room in my life for that. ;)

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              • Profile picture of the author anguschkong
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                Victor, please go play in traffic and stop being a dick/troll here. Everyone but you contributes; you've done nothing but talk shit.

                I do about $20-25k a week and ALWAYS reuse my URLs (why the F wouldn't you?). I relist with a '2' at the end and then email my personal TS account manager to remove the '2' and readd my color options. This is done within minutes!

                So unless you have anything productive to say, please leave this group. I suspect you're also an ass in real life and have very little friends (facebook friends don't count!) Travis has been more than generous in sharing his info.

                And oh by the way, I have the hottest and coolest TS account manager...sorry guys!
                I do about 20k a weekt too...why i dun have an account manager!?

                The email response is too low....sometimes it takes me 24 hours to add color!!!!
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                • Profile picture of the author m a t t
                  Hi all
                  first post here... many thanks for sharing your experience!


                  Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                  Petelta

                  This guy has much more than one campaign, a lot of them actually, all of them with over 100 sold and few likes, he can´t have fanpages for names, I've looked and I can't find anything...

                  Any idea how this is being advertised? :confused::confused::confused:
                  About the Donna tee, I guess it's a pun.. Donna means woman in Italian and the text is something girls are used to say to kidding guys.. in Italy as in USA..


                  Originally Posted by tiagofreitas View Post

                  Thanks Petelta
                  I already found him on facebook though, he has a fanpage as you said, but he's promoting by post engagement, causing few likes on teespering campaign page, that was a very nice idea, he can have engagement cheaper than a normal ad
                  Can you tell me something more about how promotion by post engagement works? I'm totally green about fb advertising...
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                • Profile picture of the author petelta
                  Originally Posted by anguschkong View Post

                  I do about 20k a weekt too...why i dun have an account manager!?

                  The email response is too low....sometimes it takes me 24 hours to add color!!!!
                  email them and tell them you want an account manager. If you're doing 20k/week, then they already know who you are.
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by victordpeter View Post

          Show us the link to that 220 shirts sold WAR EAGLE! campaign that ended 12/24/13. Simple!!!
          You run a successful campaign multiple times. The links are taken down and lumped up into one campaign when you request it. Hence, you only see the original Auburn campaign that I talk about here: http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

          Next, the auburn shirt profits has NOTHING to do with this thread. The profit margin I'm showing you how to do comes from the shirts I started after the auburn success. that was just my first I got working.

          Keep em coming buddy. You seem to be the expert at this... why don't you do something helpful instead of the replies you're providing here.
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Awesome, I finally got a good one going today. $36 spent for around $240 profit. I increased the limit to $300 on this one. Let's see how it goes. I haven't gotten a sale in past $13 though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
    It seems like all the good money makers are in the sports team niche...yet seing the amount of shirts in that niche on teespring makes it seem saturated by now, and that only those who have got it to profit can rinse & repeat for other teams etc...
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by jsmiz View Post

      It seems like all the good money makers are in the sports team niche...yet seing the amount of shirts in that niche on teespring makes it seem saturated by now, and that only those who have got it to profit can rinse & repeat for other teams etc...
      Sports teams are only the first niche to get touched. Everyone is launching shirts in this niche because it's hot. There are lots of other niches that are very profitable.
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        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Sports teams are only the first niche to get touched. Everyone is launching shirts in this niche because it's hot. There are lots of other niches that are very profitable.
        Still loving this post. Not sure of I missed this earlier, but are you sticking with right side ads, news feed, both? How are you finding your placement and what is bringing that return. (obvious newsfeed is more expensive).

        Thanks Patelta!
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          Originally Posted by partyfavor View Post

          Still loving this post. Not sure of I missed this earlier, but are you sticking with right side ads, news feed, both? How are you finding your placement and what is bringing that return. (obvious newsfeed is more expensive).

          Thanks Patelta!
          I use exclusively newsfeed ads.
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    I see a ton of people using sports teams names but isn't that trademarked and you could get in trouble?
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      Originally Posted by sackanub View Post

      I see a ton of people using sports teams names but isn't that trademarked and you could get in trouble?
      Yes, a huge group of newcomers that are doing this right now are completely breaking trademarks. They are very liable to be sued too. Don't break trademarks
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      • Profile picture of the author sackanub
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Yes, a huge group of newcomers that are doing this right now are completely breaking trademarks. They are very liable to be sued too. Don't break trademarks
        Yeah, I did use a sports team name on one of my campaigns (without any part of the logo). Made $1000 profit yesterday and was on my way to making $3000 profit today but I decided to end the campaign. Felt guilty making that money even though it's a common word. Instead I will use the same thought process on my future campaigns without the infringing part.

        I see a lot of worse cases than mine though, but I would rather avoid a potential suit!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    A lot of people dont realise it tbh

    Anything that has exposure that you are looking to exploit will invariably have a trademark assigned to it. Thats the whole point of doing this lol.

    I seen one that was a good one, Broncos colours, with the words "MANN UP" on it. Very basic, very simple and 99% legal, barring the fact they put the Broncos symbol inside the P.

    Something like that can shut you down.

    Its only a matter of time before this is cracked down on. But who is going to do it?

    Teespring? They put a disclaimer in saying we agree that we own the image we are printing so there happy they have covered themselves and getting the sales.

    FB? They know you are using the trademarked material and are party to it however they wont stop you spending the advertising will they?

    Team you are ripping off? Once they get wind of it and it gets big enough I dont think they will stop it. Instead they will probably find a way to get in on it and undercut us all lol
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      A lot of people dont realise it tbh

      Anything that has exposure that you are looking to exploit will invariably have a trademark assigned to it. Thats the whole point of doing this lol.

      I seen one that was a good one, Broncos colours, with the words "MANN UP" on it. Very basic, very simple and 99% legal, barring the fact they put the Broncos symbol inside the P.

      Something like that can shut you down.

      Its only a matter of time before this is cracked down on. But who is going to do it?

      Teespring? They put a disclaimer in saying we agree that we own the image we are printing so there happy they have covered themselves and getting the sales.

      FB? They know you are using the trademarked material and are party to it however they wont stop you spending the advertising will they?

      Team you are ripping off? Once they get wind of it and it gets big enough I dont think they will stop it. Instead they will probably find a way to get in on it and undercut us all lol
      Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
        Ok :confused::confused::confused:
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          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          Ok :confused::confused::confused:
          I mean I am hardly worried about losing any slice of the pie..
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        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Very good points, although I have seen many 5 figure gigs just using Stock Images and completely removed from the Sports Niches so care factor = 0 haha
        I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

        Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

        I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

        All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
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        • Profile picture of the author jsmiz
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

          Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

          I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

          All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
          In which niches do you prefer to focus on from now on, since the sports thing might get cracked down at some point?
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          • Profile picture of the author nicoli
            I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this strange error. But whenever I get an email from TS saying that my campaign has tipped, I go to look at it and it has 2 to 3 less sales than the tipping point....eg. 48 out of 50. Yet it still shows the amount earned and that it is now sold.

            A bit scary considering the amount of $ I have spent on some of them. I will give them a call later when they open up and see if they can shed any light on the situation. I will update here if it can help anybody else.

            Cheers,

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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

              I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this strange error. But whenever I get an email from TS saying that my campaign has tipped, I go to look at it and it has 2 to 3 less sales than the tipping point....eg. 48 out of 50. Yet it still shows the amount earned and that it is now sold.

              A bit scary considering the amount of $ I have spent on some of them. I will give them a call later when they open up and see if they can shed any light on the situation. I will update here if it can help anybody else.

              Cheers,

              Nic
              I think what happens here is you made the goal of sales (50/50)... but after you tipped, someone came back and asked for a refund. Teespring still honors the sales though. If they refunded before you hit the goal, it wouldn't of mattered.
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          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I've been moving away from the sports team shirts completely. At some point soon, it's going to get cracked down on.

          Trademark infringement starts at any point you're piggybacking from another brand's marketing and reputation to help your business. So for sports teams, even using the same colors and referring to their team in any way... direct or indirect... can be grounds to sue your butt.

          I'm doing this for the long term and the whole advantage of this FB ad -> Teespring system is that you can grow a Facebook following (fan page/list/etc) while making a profit adding these leads.

          All my past fan pages, I've had to spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on like campaigns to generate enough fans to make a steady income. Now, I can grow a fan page and be in the black before doing any of the quality long term marketing strategies you want to put into play.
          Petelta, I know you don't have time for this so if you (or anyone) can point me to the right direction I will be forever grateful.

          With the short amount of time I had learning how to make dark posts and facebook ad campaign, I'm a little confused about what you said regarding having a Facebook Following (fan page/list/etc). From what I learned, to yield best result, I have to make a separate fan page for each ad campaign and have a good fanpage name that will make people curious (ie. if I was selling pug shirts, I will probably make fbook fan page named "You like Pugs?" and run ads using that page). This method seems to work as I get good response (I'm still yet to get good conversion to sales though...) but these fan pages our expendable..

          What method do you use to grow your fan page? I believe that means you have a central fanpage that you run all your ads on? Also, when I create a dark post, it seems like I can only make one dark post per existing ad set. Is this correct? Am I just supposed to make multiple ad sets to make multiple dark posts?

          I know this is a very novice question so I do apologize for filling up the space on this thread... Any help will be great!
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Hey guys!

    I have 2 campaigns that are around break even after $20 (actually a $1 loss) can anyone give any advice on how they proceed with close to break even campaigns after the initial $20-$30 test. I'm unsure if i should continue to test and what to look for.

    Again, thanks to OP and everyone else in this thread. I'd never made a single sale online before trying this out.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Hey guys!

      I have 2 campaigns that are around break even after $20 (actually a $1 loss) can anyone give any advice on how they proceed with close to break even campaigns after the initial $20-$30 test. I'm unsure if i should continue to test and what to look for.

      Again, thanks to OP and everyone else in this thread. I'd never made a single sale online before trying this out.
      If you have campaigns that are break even after $20 then you've probably only sold 1 tee which is not very good in this market.

      Like I have said to numerous people previously it depends on your niche area and target audience whether its worth taking it a step further.

      The advice given in this sphere is simple.

      You need a passionate audience. People that "love" their team, not just support it. I assume you are on the sports team niche? As most people are, although you are missing out on so much more lol

      You need a large audience of these passionate people but not too large. You can pitch to millions of normal fans or thousands of passionate fans. I know which area I would target.

      Finally your design has to be captivating. If you feel it is then chase after the target audience, if its there.

      Without knowing the ins and outs of your campaign then no one can give you a definitive answer.

      Hope that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        If you have campaigns that are break even after $20 then you've probably only sold 1 tee which is not very good in this market.
        Like the_icon mentions, you are not only looking for campaigns that make a profit for your ad investment, but also sell at a quick rate. With the Teespring system, you have to hit your set goals in a short amount of time.

        If your ad takes 4 days to spend your $20, it's probably not a hot enough campaign for this system.... even if it makes a profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Tbh I started off on ads but moving over to fanpages/groups now. Better longetivity imo
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  • Profile picture of the author sackanub
    Some people make it so obvious when infringing.. Just seen a Broncos AFC Champions Tee pop up on my newsfeed.
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      me too! complete blatant logo and naming etc LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Ok so I've found what I think is a very passionate niche.

    Selling hoodies for $19.45 profit
    In my first $14 I sold 2
    I am getting 0.08 cents per website click in one of the split tested campaigns!
    With an 11% CTR
    I now have 339 website clicks but still only 2 sales. (back to break evenish)
    I have a potential reach of 30k

    At this point it is clear that people are interested but obviously the design does not do enough for them. So my question is:

    Would you guys kill this campaign and work on a new design?

    I feel like I'm just a few moves away from having some decent profit margins!

    P.S Can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to tracking? Prosper 202?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Ok so I've found what I think is a very passionate niche.

      Selling hoodies for $19.45 profit
      In my first $14 I sold 2
      I am getting 0.08 cents per website click in one of the split tested campaigns!
      With an 11% CTR
      I now have 339 website clicks but still only 2 sales. (back to break evenish)
      I have a potential reach of 30k

      At this point it is clear that people are interested but obviously the design does not do enough for them. So my question is:

      Would you guys kill this campaign and work on a new design?

      I feel like I'm just a few moves away from having some decent profit margins!

      P.S Can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to tracking? Prosper 202?
      I would let it ride. If you choose that, you'll have to make sure it hits the sales goal though. If you don't, you'll be losing all that investment.

      You'll probably receive sales from those previous clicks that haven't produced as well. A large group of buyers come from friends of people who share, like, and comment on your ad.

      Travis
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        A large group of buyers come from friends of people who share, like, and comment on your ad.

        Travis
        See this is what I have only just clicked on to recently is having an ad is all well and good however you are limiting yourself to that one person that clicks the ad, whereas if you create a fanpage or group and get the like then the friends off that person will see it etc.

        Those friends of the "clicker" may not be fans of the interests you are targetting but they may still buy. At the end of the day its free traffic potentially as opposed to the str8 ads where you are paying per person.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Hey all,

    So my first 3 campaigns flopped and I lost quite a bit of money, learning the ropes so to speak.

    Now however I have had a few winners and have a few running that are going to exceed target.

    How are you guys scaling? Just more FB Ads? Different variations of the Ad? Joining groups and posting on their timelines? Any tips to make some of these winners go viral would be great
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  • Profile picture of the author teamcrunk
    Question,

    are you direct linking to your T-shirt or are u sending them to a fanpage or getting likes?

    Just wondering im looking to get started with Fb ads this week
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

      Question,

      are you direct linking to your T-shirt or are u sending them to a fanpage or getting likes?

      Just wondering im looking to get started with Fb ads this week
      Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
        Excuse my ignorance here but are you talking about your own pages with large fanbase or other pages and posting to their time lines?
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        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        Depends on ur skill set on which way u should go. Certainly pages have the better return rate however if ur just starting off then direct linking ads are a good place to start but once ur comfortable then switch over to pages
        Thanks for the reply, one last question for your fan page, are u doing impressions or clicks? I guess clicks is likes right?
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        • Profile picture of the author the_icon
          Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

          Thanks for the reply, one last question for your fan page, are u doing impressions or clicks? I guess clicks is likes right?
          You dont do either tbh, always have it optimized for likes. You will see that option once you come to create an Ads campaign. Basically use up your daily budget in likes so just decide how much you want to spend.
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    direct link to shirt
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Creating your own pages around the niche you want to target. Its not hard to create your own and start getting likes. Give them a reason to come back and they will. Give them a reason to share your page and they will. Once they share and the viral effect comes into play then you have a good audience to market to, assuming you have picked a marketable niche.

    Getting into the marketable niches (not just for Teespring) is so much easier on FB than doing it the old fashioned way by creating a blog etc. By all means create a blog and link it back to the page if you want to market more often, that way you are not alienating the FB audience directly.
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    aaa ok, I get ya.

    I have a few niche pages both with 100K+ "real" likes and I was using them, although I have created additional pages that fell outside the niches and have had a couple of thousand likes from them. Unfort, unless I bounce traffic through another domain of mine I wont be able to see the true stats, so will just assume there is some coming from the pages. Cheers
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    BTW, TS have been offline for the past 30 min for maint so I have paused all of my ads. If anybody sees this right now, you may wish to do the same
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Theyre back up and running now.

    Though for how long who knows, I cant imagine it will be long before they are taken down for trademark infingement.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      Theyre back up and running now.

      Though for how long who knows, I cant imagine it will be long before they are taken down for trademark infingement.
      TS won't be taken down for the infringement. It will be the individual sellers. They require you to agree you aren't stealing content to protect themselves... plus they just received a huge investment a few days ago to put them into the mainstream of public product creation. They aren't going anywhere lol
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        TS won't be taken down for the infringement. It will be the individual sellers. They require you to agree you aren't stealing content to protect themselves... plus they just received a huge investment a few days ago to put them into the mainstream of public product creation. They aren't going anywhere lol
        I understand and agree but they have a responsibility to ensure they dont infringe trademark regardless of the tick box we have to check. Pretty sure if Nike came calling then they would sit up and take notice lol
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          I understand and agree but they have a responsibility to ensure they dont infringe trademark regardless of the tick box we have to check. Pretty sure if Nike came calling then they would sit up and take notice lol
          I agree... but they aren't liable... so they won't use up their resources much more than they have to to keep out of trouble. The little tick box and actively shutting down infringement they catch is enough to make sure they don't get in trouble.

          Nike isn't anymore aggressive to take this stuff down than most Universities.... especially ones revolved around college football.. they are the most greedy organizations on the planet
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          • Profile picture of the author the_icon
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            I agree... but they aren't liable... so they won't use up their resources much more than they have to to keep out of trouble. The little tick box and actively shutting down infringement they catch is enough to make sure they don't get in trouble.

            Nike isn't anymore aggressive to take this stuff down than most Universities.... especially ones revolved around college football.. they are the most greedy organizations on the planet
            As long as they do crack down on the cheaters, makes it a level playing in that case. Anyone can throw together a borderline infringement hoodie lol

            Re Nike I was only using them as an example. I dont know enough about US uni's to comment on them lol
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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

              As long as they do crack down on the cheaters, makes it a level playing in that case. Anyone can throw together a borderline infringement hoodie lol

              Re Nike I was only using them as an example. I dont know enough about US uni's to comment on them lol
              we are in total agreement lol
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      • Profile picture of the author xpaw01
        Travis, hats off for sharing the details of your success. What are your thoughts about the following strategy?

        1. text only design offers quick go-to-market and no designer fees
        2. wait until final day of the TS campaign to execute ads*
        3. sell hoodies for 39.99
        4. CPC < $1 and a few cents above suggested bid
        5. use LIMITED EDITION in ad copy
        6. newsfeed ads only
        7. hot niche/trend (obvious)

        *could swap #2 out for ad spend should be < 4 days

        Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

        The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
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        • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
          Originally Posted by xpaw01 View Post

          Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

          The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
          Both strategies work. However, if you want to run a newsfeed ad (as opposed to a right hand side ad) I think you need a FB page.
          It depends what your focus is. Conversions might be higher if you send people directly to teespring, but if you send them to your page and they 'like' it, you get to market to them again and again and build your page into a nice little sales tool, possibly saving on ad costs in the long run.
          That's how I understand it, anyway.
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by MayaMagpie View Post

            Both strategies work. However, if you want to run a newsfeed ad (as opposed to a right hand side ad) I think you need a FB page.
            It depends what your focus is. Conversions might be higher if you send people directly to teespring, but if you send them to your page and they 'like' it, you get to market to them again and again and build your page into a nice little sales tool, possibly saving on ad costs in the long run.
            That's how I understand it, anyway.
            Maya is right. You need a fan page to do a newsfeed ad. I prefer newsfeed ads over right side ads for a few reasons...

            1 - The reason you need a fan page to post a newsfeed ad is because they need the message to be posted from someone... Instead of it saying Travis Petelle posted... It says FAN PAGE posted... So when this happens people will click to your fan page sometimes and they like the page... boom you got them on the database to promote for the long term.

            2 - Teespring has an automatic retargeting system going. When people click to your teespring sales page, they are pixeled. So when they go back to facebook, they'll start to see sidebar ads for that exact same shirt. This gets a lot of the people who didn't buy at first. I would rather not compete with my own products... so I let Teespring handle the sidebar ads.

            3 - Newsfeed ads are easier at representing exactly what it is you're selling. This is important when you pay per click. YOu really only want those to click to be people who are highly interested in your offer. Sidebar ads don't give enough info sometimes and you'll get a lot of "likers" instead of buyers. This cuts your profit margins... boo!
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by xpaw01 View Post

          Travis, hats off for sharing the details of your success. What are your thoughts about the following strategy?

          1. text only design offers quick go-to-market and no designer fees
          2. wait until final day of the TS campaign to execute ads*
          3. sell hoodies for 39.99
          4. CPC < $1 and a few cents above suggested bid
          5. use LIMITED EDITION in ad copy
          6. newsfeed ads only
          7. hot niche/trend (obvious)

          *could swap #2 out for ad spend should be < 4 days

          Also, can someone shed more light on the FB Page/Ad relationship? Is the ad directing the user to a FB page that then promotes the TS items for sale - or - directly to the TS page to buy the item?

          The latter makes sense to me from a conversion stand point. If the user is being sent directly to TS then how do they learn about the FB page?
          Sounds pretty solid. I would definitely do more than 1 day campaign. A really hot campaign will usually go off for around 4-5 days. So, you don't want to miss those extra sales. Plus, the last day sales come a lot from people who saw your ad a few days before and realize "oh shit, this is the last day to buy that awesome shirt"... and it grabs them in.

          I do both hoodies and shirts depending on which part of the country I'm promoting too. Florida people get more shirts than Wisconsin people for example.

          The hoodie strategy is great because you can get a higher profit/sale. You price it at $39.99 and you get $15-$20 per sale... where if you sell a $20 shirt, you get $10 profit. 100 sales with $10 profit difference makes an impact.

          I've battled this by bumping up my tshirt sales to $24.99. Most people are doing $19.99... but I've found that if someone is going to pay $20 for a shirt, they'll pay $25.

          The lower the cost per shirt you can get the better... because it gives you more profit per sale. this is why Straight text designs are awesome.

          Try not to worry too much about cost of your ads. Look more at how much it's making.. If you spend $4 per click, but every click ends up buying your $20 shirt, you're still making $6/click profit.

          Good luck man

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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I tested that the other night. Put a blatant copy of a sports logo to see how long it would take to be ripped down. Didn't last two hours before they nuked it. And it's got to be so bloody lucrative for them that they, or similar models will just keep popping up I reckon
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Defo, lets face it theyre arent advertising are they. We are doing that for them, all they need are marketers which are in abundance. Great idea tbh
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    Agreed. Brilliant idea and somebody is absolutely killing it!
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    • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
      I just stumbled across a website that seems to be an almost exact copy of teespring, but based in the UK - Fabrily (fabrily.com). I got all excited, because it means that this one might be more suited for all us Europeans... But when I wanted to start a campaign, just to see what kind of prices and products they offer, they wanted me to fill in a form with details about the campaign and said that someone would be in touch.

      So, for now at least, it's a bit too much hassle and not really a marketer's dream. However, maybe something to keep an eye on, who knows?
      They might change their procedure once they get more business. They're still pretty young.

      Until then, good luck with teespring
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by MayaMagpie View Post

        I just stumbled across a website that seems to be an almost exact copy of teespring, but based in the UK - Fabrily (fabrily.com). I got all excited, because it means that this one might be more suited for all us Europeans... But when I wanted to start a campaign, just to see what kind of prices and products they offer, they wanted me to fill in a form with details about the campaign and said that someone would be in touch.

        So, for now at least, it's a bit too much hassle and not really a marketer's dream. However, maybe something to keep an eye on, who knows?
        They might change their procedure once they get more business. They're still pretty young.

        Until then, good luck with teespring
        Tbh thats a safer way to do business for them, keeps them on the right side of trademark infingement. Laws are tougher across here than the USA/Canada.

        Keeps the unscrupulous IM'ers at bay, or helps towards it lol
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        • Profile picture of the author MayaMagpie
          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          Tbh thats a safer way to do business for them, keeps them on the right side of trademark infingement. Laws are tougher across here than the USA/Canada.

          Keeps the unscrupulous IM'ers at bay, or helps towards it lol
          Yup, although they lose massive business. I do wonder where teespring would be now without all the marketers...
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    I like this post. Will explore more on this approach.
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    Can someone please point me in the right direction of tracking my conversions? I have a profitable campaign going with a few different ads... one is getting 0.07 cents per website click and a lot of traffic and others are getting 0.20 cents per website click and not nearlt as much traffic but more targeted with a clear call to action.

    Problem is my Conversion rate is 1% and I don't know where the sales are coming from.
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      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      Can someone please point me in the right direction of tracking my conversions? I have a profitable campaign going with a few different ads... one is getting 0.07 cents per website click and a lot of traffic and others are getting 0.20 cents per website click and not nearlt as much traffic but more targeted with a clear call to action.

      Problem is my Conversion rate is 1% and I don't know where the sales are coming from.
      You can use Facebook's Tracking Conversion Pixel. You have to email TS Support and ask them to unlock that option for you. Then, in your Dashboard, you'll see a link for Facebook Conversion Pixel and you just copy/paste in the ID.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZedyDiamond
    This looks interesting, I'm going to test this out soon. Thanks for the thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author NetCram
    So i'm guessing for the best results we should target the hard core fans of just about anything... Sports fans, Sicfi nerds, Car people etc?

    Does anyone have any other ideas? If you don't want to give way your niche i understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
    Are you guys messaging the buyers through teespring? If yes, what is it ?

    Thanks a lot
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    this looks verry nice
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    25 webclicks, 1.06Cpc, 2353 reach, 58 clicks, 2.495 CTR, $26.51


    I'm on mobile and will screen shot when I get home sorry in advance.

    I have a teespring campaign running in a non sports niche, i feel like I should have little competition. Great looking design, seriously dope shirt a lot of people would like.

    I'm getting no conversions but I don't feel like I should judge off just 25 website clicks.

    I'm getting lots of comments and likes on the ad but my Cpc is high at first at .38 - .82 cents and doesn't move till i do optimize bids.

    It gets lots of traffic and CTR rises so I go to lower bid and traffic stops. All this happens in about an hour.

    I need help with budgeting. I have a 50 dollar budget to test niche which gets used so quickly i can't run numbers. 25 clicks at 26 dollars is to much but I've only been testing for a short time.

    Also what's a good conversions to web site clicks average

    I'd love any advice i could get.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      25 webclicks, 1.06Cpc, 2353 reach, 58 clicks, 2.495 CTR, $26.51


      I'm on mobile and will screen shot when I get home sorry in advance.

      I have a teespring campaign running in a non sports niche, i feel like I should have little competition. Great looking design, seriously dope shirt a lot of people would like.

      I'm getting no conversions but I don't feel like I should judge off just 25 website clicks.

      I'm getting lots of comments and likes on the ad but my Cpc is high at first at .38 - .82 cents and doesn't move till i do optimize bids.

      It gets lots of traffic and CTR rises so I go to lower bid and traffic stops. All this happens in about an hour.

      I need help with budgeting. I have a 50 dollar budget to test niche which gets used so quickly i can't run numbers. 25 clicks at 26 dollars is to much but I've only been testing for a short time.

      Also what's a good conversions to web site clicks average

      I'd love any advice i could get.
      you're on the right track. it's hard sometimes to find a winner with only $50 total. I suggest to my students start with $500 avaiable... this is so you can test 5-10 campaigns. Out of these 10, you'll find 1-2 that profit and make up for it.

      Just keep testing out your system and improving. You're getting clicks, now you can improve designs and niche choice.

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      • Profile picture of the author tints
        Thanks for responding.

        How much should be tested on each campaign before deciding to run with it or not.

        Also every niche i go at always have a high cpc and these niches are not being targeted. I just don't understand how to lower my cpc enough to get accurate data to run or not.

        Also how many clicks to site should there be for one conversion?
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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by tints View Post

          Thanks for responding.

          How much should be tested on each campaign before deciding to run with it or not.

          Also every niche i go at always have a high cpc and these niches are not being targeted. I just don't understand how to lower my cpc enough to get accurate data to run or not.

          Also how many clicks to site should there be for one conversion?
          High CPC comes with niches that aren't very "social".

          Don't worry about clicks as much as profiting. If you're making more than you're spending, you're doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
    I 'd like to share another niche case is,
    one of my friend in HongKong, who sources the slingshot from China, and sell to worldwide via facebook, sports forum etc making profit very much.

    His site is Welcome to Dankung Sports. Your specific requirements of sports goods are met here. Flashlight, slingshot, fishing tackle, fishing rod, sports apparel, Dankung Sports meets your specific requirements of sports goods!

    It may be different case from petelta's, but I think it's also a case of success of niche market.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
      You could of had people who cancelled their orders. I don't believe you would get an email for that. I know I usually buy the first five shirts then when I get some sales going i just cancel my order.
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        Makes sense...I like the buy 5 to make a design appear "accepted" then canceling later strategy..
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Hey Travis, one of my TS listings was at 15 sales then started declining, now it's at 8. Listing is still active, no notice emails from TS staff received. Any idea on what's going on? Thanks!
      You have some people cancelling their order. It happens sometimes... 7 refunds is a big number though. I would bet 1 person bought all those 7 for a group and decided against it later.
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    Thank you, man! You are wonderful!
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Is CPC suggested bid configured in real time to competitors? I'll see suggested bid .50 - 1.25 then periodically through the day it will wildly jump around all the way down to .05 - .18 toward the end of the night bids drop way down to. Should we be trying to ride this wave or does changing your campaign and having delays not match up with the system?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      Is CPC suggested bid configured in real time to competitors? I'll see suggested bid .50 - 1.25 then periodically through the day it will wildly jump around all the way down to .05 - .18 toward the end of the night bids drop way down to. Should we be trying to ride this wave or does changing your campaign and having delays not match up with the system?
      A lot of the time, Facebook will suggest a ridiculious bid to start... something in the $1+ range per click.... but when you create the ad and go check the suggested bid in the dashboard area, it will be much lower to it's normal levels.

      The highest I've ever had to bid for SOCIAL niches is $0.68/click. If you're targeting things like fitness, IM, forex, or any of your typical online niches, then you're going to see high bids required.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
    Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

    1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
    2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
    3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
    4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

    I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

    Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

    I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

    I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

    Thanks man
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      Oh, on bullet #2, I also add "Common Interest" with whatever subject the TS listings and custom audience focuses on (i.e. poodle audience with poodle interest). Yes, this reduces the estimated target #, but I feel it gives me a stronger market group.

      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

      1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
      2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
      3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
      4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

      I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

      Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

      I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

      I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

      Thanks man
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      Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

      Travis, for any given design i fb market towards, I do the following:

      1 - Create two ads in the underlying fb group page then boost to both the Fans and Friends (spend the min amount, $5) and the Specific Target (usually spend $100).
      2 - Create a regular ad using custom audience IDs (that I gather), newsfeed ads only, target specifically to only people within the US, ages 21-55, and use optimize bids
      3 - When the regular ad frequency starts to show 1.1+, I switch from optimize bids to a fixed amount and price .01 higher than what the "average cost-per-click" reads. I don't use the "suggested bid" numbers.
      4 - Last day I change the group post, add "final day" graphics to my image and text, and again spend $5 to send to fans/friends and whatever ($50, 100) to targets. I usually end up only spending a few bucks when the TS item ends then will pause both group promos.

      I'm spending about $1,200-$2,000 per day on fb ads with an average of 15-20 active listings. I track each TS listing and fb ad in Excel to come up with a average profit figure then rank them by which listings have the highest value (sales/profit - total ad cost).

      Some what I call "hot" listings/ads will bring in $12-15 on average, some much less, some I end up canceling with a loss.

      I average about $8.24 per sale per any given item (includes lifetime total successful listings and canceled ones). I know this was a lot of text, but my question is, how can I raise my "Average Revenue Per Item Sold?"

      I read your post about sharing for free in group pages and will start this. I really don't do any "free" advertising yet.

      Thanks man
      If you're truly spending $1-$2k/day, you're way past any free advertising methods. Those are only going to add a small amount of sales... unless you go the route of outsourcing with a team.

      If you want more profit per sale, sell higher priced items. Hoodies at $39.99 are nice because of the large profit margin. I sell my shirts at $24.99 a piece to add anotehr $5 profit on my end each sale.

      You can also start looking outside of Teespring to drop ship shirts. Plus don't forget to grow a fan page and email list from all these niche leads while you sell the shirts.

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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        Yes, I try to sell hoodies as much as I can, $39.99 sales price, front print only, 75 goal. This usually brings in $20 profit per sale. 183 is the highest quantity any of my TS listings have had. If I can get daily fb ad costs down by a fraction, that would be amazing!

        One "extra credit" way of making more $$ is to use a rewards-type card to pay your fb ads. For example: American Express, $50k charged = 50k Amex bonus points = $500 Home Depot gift card = sell on eBay for $480ish.

        What would you outsource and are you talking about hiring a couple virtual assistants? How do you capture email addresses?

        Thanks Travis.

        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        If you're truly spending $1-$2k/day, you're way past any free advertising methods. Those are only going to add a small amount of sales... unless you go the route of outsourcing with a team.

        If you want more profit per sale, sell higher priced items. Hoodies at $39.99 are nice because of the large profit margin. I sell my shirts at $24.99 a piece to add anotehr $5 profit on my end each sale.

        You can also start looking outside of Teespring to drop ship shirts. Plus don't forget to grow a fan page and email list from all these niche leads while you sell the shirts.

        Travis
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      Not really man, just don't do as many listings... I've learned that you have to carefully monitor ad performance because since fb became a publicly-traded for-profit company, they have made it MUCH easier to inefficiently expense your ad budget(s). I've been doing fb ads for many years, back when cost-per-impression ads actually saved you way more than CPC. Plus, the more listings you do, the more you have to effectively manage them or you may find your focus only on the high-revenue sales listings while wasting $$ on poor TS listings. Start with 1-2 listings, learn the process, then go from there. Like Travis said, you want to add a bunch daily then filter out poor performers as they're identified.


      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
        Unless Travis has some insight on how to get a successful campaign with $100 per TS listing.

        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        Not really man, just don't do as many listings... I've learned that you have to carefully monitor ad performance because since fb became a publicly-traded for-profit company, they have made it MUCH easier to inefficiently expense your ad budget(s). I've been doing fb ads for many years, back when cost-per-impression ads actually saved you way more than CPC. Plus, the more listings you do, the more you have to effectively manage them or you may find your focus only on the high-revenue sales listings while wasting $$ on poor TS listings. Start with 1-2 listings, learn the process, then go from there. Like Travis said, you want to add a bunch daily then filter out poor performers as they're identified.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      I'm guessing the 100 dollar budget for a campaign is completely impossible now? All these people with big budgets have to be driving up costs in all niches? Feeling like I can't get anywhere unless i have atleast 700 - 1500 bucks to invest would that be a correct assumption
      You can have success with $100 for sure. But that means you have to create a winner your first try. In reality, I get a campaign to break even or better 1 of every 5. So, that's $100 in testing alone just to find the one I need to send money in.

      Then once you get a campaign to roll, the only way you're going to make 1000 sales and $10k+ is by spending $3-5k in a 2-3 day period.

      I tell my students they should have at least $500 to start. This way you can test out 10 campaigns and find at least 1 winner. Then you have $300 left to keep the sales rolling. An average winning campaign for me triples the total investment.

      Within the first week, you can double your initial investment if you do it correctly... with winners and losers.

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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    How many clicks do you typically get before deciding if a campaign is going to be a success or not?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      How many clicks do you typically get before deciding if a campaign is going to be a success or not?
      Profit is the only stat I care about. If I'm making $2 for every $1 I've spent, then I let the campaign ride.

      Clicks, click thru rates, and all those other great stats are going to be different for EVERY CAMPAIGN. So there is no number to watch for.
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      • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
        My FB is acting weird.

        My sales goes up, my clicks goes up, page visits goes up. However, total spent stays the same, and price and average cost per click goes down too.

        Another campaign i have the same thing: 10 website clicks, 1 sale $0 spent.

        Any ideas ?
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by alexcutler View Post

          My FB is acting weird.

          My sales goes up, my clicks goes up, page visits goes up. However, total spent stays the same, and price and average cost per click goes down too.

          Another campaign i have the same thing: 10 website clicks, 1 sale $0 spent.

          Any ideas ?
          can take up to a few hours for fb to update man
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          • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
            I can't see how much i spend though. Hopefully they not gonna charge me more than my daily limit, because if i multiply clicks to the average ppc it is way more than that
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            • Profile picture of the author petelta
              Originally Posted by alexcutler View Post

              I can't see how much i spend though. Hopefully they not gonna charge me more than my daily limit, because if i multiply clicks to the average ppc it is way more than that
              Like mentioned, it just takes a little bit to be up to date sometimes. they will never spend more than the budget set. It's a blocking point in the system.
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              • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
                Travis, do you do group page ad boosts or stick to regular ads?

                Originally Posted by petelta View Post

                Like mentioned, it just takes a little bit to be up to date sometimes. they will never spend more than the budget set. It's a blocking point in the system.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    OK all, heads up.

    When a campaign "tips" you will see sometimes see a different amount of shirts sold in the campaign list, than you will if you click the shirts link itself.

    This is because some orders are rejected when it goes to print.

    So, provided a campaign "tips" :

    1) The amount you see in the campaign list is the amount that have been successfully paid for.
    2) The amount you see on the item page itself, is the total amount of orders that had ever been placed, regardless of whether their payment went through at the time of "tipping" when TS charges them all.

    Hope this helps at least somebody. Scared me a little until I got some clarity.

    Cheers,

    Nic
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Dude you are awesome thanks for sharing this helpful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Anyone else having ads pending review problems? going on 2 hours for one ad and its nothing against toss not sports related. Usually my ads get approved within 15 minutes today its taking forever!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    I had to wait a while over weekend, maybe a timing issue or guys on a break lol
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      I had to wait a while over weekend, maybe a timing issue or guys on a break lol
      haha probably a smoke break! i think they check ads until 8pm pacfic time so i still got a couple hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    If I'm bidding a cent under suggested .36 and drop it to like .22 will i stop seeing clicks? It feels like it's only possible to get traffic if you bid is really close to suggested. Thoughts inputs?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicoli
    I'm just using optimised and get 8c pc on average...then again I am laser targeting people
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    If I use optimized it'll sky rocket my cpc for some reason
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
      It might just be me, but I found if I use optimize closer towards the end of the daily billing cycle, fb magically expenses my ad budget, often with higher CPC, than if I were to start in the morning...

      Originally Posted by tints View Post

      If I use optimized it'll sky rocket my cpc for some reason
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

        It might just be me, but I found if I use optimize closer towards the end of the daily billing cycle, fb magically expenses my ad budget, often with higher CPC, than if I were to start in the morning...
        When you choose the Optmized bidding option, Facebook "optimizes" your ad to be shown to the maximum daily budget you've set...

        SO... if you set a daily budget of $500 and use optimize, you'll end up spending that last $10-$20 of the $500 right around midnight...

        Same situation if you set your daily budget at $5... Facebook will show your ad for that 24 hour period so that you are spending the last of the $5 right at the end of the day.

        Using this optimized bidding can be a big advantage in certain situations... but all of this stuff is too advanced for this thread

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        • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          When you choose the Optmized bidding option, Facebook "optimizes" your ad to be shown to the maximum daily budget you've set...

          SO... if you set a daily budget of $500 and use optimize, you'll end up spending that last $10-$20 of the $500 right around midnight...

          Same situation if you set your daily budget at $5... Facebook will show your ad for that 24 hour period so that you are spending the last of the $5 right at the end of the day.

          Using this optimized bidding can be a big advantage in certain situations... but all of this stuff is too advanced for this thread

          travis
          How many ad variations do you use for your t-shirts?

          Do you also do the optimized cpm?
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

            How many ad variations do you use for your t-shirts?

            Do you also do the optimized cpm?
            Depends on the available audience angles to say how many total variations I make... but typically i test 3 different looks on each ad uploaded.

            CPC
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            • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
              Originally Posted by petelta View Post

              Depends on the available audience angles to say how many total variations I make... but typically i test 3 different looks on each ad uploaded.

              CPC
              When you use cpc and target 500k people, etc. don't you have to pay as high as $.75 to $1.50 per click?

              Also when you say you test 3 different looks for each ad, are you saying 3 different t-shirt designs per ad? If so, how many total ads do you typically have per design campaign?
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            • Profile picture of the author alexcutler
              Do you send message to your buyers through teespring?

              Whats the sequence of making an email list?
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    I moved on to other things. FB ads are too expensive and the teespring campaigns aren't converting well.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

      I moved on to other things. FB ads are too expensive and the teespring campaigns aren't converting well.
      guess it's where you are hitting. I did 4K overnight with only $600 ad spend. there is money there
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      • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        guess it's where you are hitting. I did 4K overnight with only $600 ad spend. there is money there
        Nice job.

        FB charges me $.70 cpc regardless of whether I do optimized cpm or not, and despite all the clicks I receive on the multiple teespring products (very targeted), it's earning 0 sales.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

          Nice job.

          FB charges me $.70 cpc regardless of whether I do optimized cpm or not, and despite all the clicks I receive on the multiple teespring products (very targeted), it's earning 0 sales.
          Competitive niche bro
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

            Competitive niche bro
            How many clicks do you receive and what does FB charge you for cpc?
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              How many clicks do you receive and what does FB charge you for cpc?
              Depends on the campaign but in the thousands and between 5 to 8 cents cpc
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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    For anyone who wants to do the teespring + FB, there are certain things to consider.

    For example,

    a) How targeted is really targeted? (50,000 people vs 1 million)
    b) Should you use CPM or CPC?
    c) Should you create ads with the Power Editor or Manually?
    d) Should you go for the optimize CPM feature in the Power Editor?
    e) How many ads should you be creating if you are doing a campaign?
    f) How many clicks should you receive before deciding if a teespring campaign is a failure?
    g) Do you send the clicks directly to the teespring campaign or to a FB page?
    h) Are you targeting the ads via the News Feed?

    Etc.

    There's no simple test. It will cost $500 to $1,000+ to figure out the above depending on your level of expertise with FB ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Also. not able to get any campaign going. Clicks are to expensive and the shirts are not selling.
    What country are you guys targeting.
    For some reason, I don't think people will pay the price of the shirt with the high cost of shipping.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      Also. not able to get any campaign going. Clicks are to expensive and the shirts are not selling.
      What country are you guys targeting.
      For some reason, I don't think people will pay the price of the shirt with the high cost of shipping.
      I'm sticking to USA
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        I'm sticking to USA
        That is good, and your able to get .8cents a click.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          That is good, and your able to get .8cents a click.
          spend about 3 hours laser targeting groups etc
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          • Profile picture of the author 19rl75
            Campaign has worked for others. About 3000 people, 12 cent CPC, 26 cent website CPC. Zero sales. Big giant "CLICK HERE TO BUY" banner on the ad. News feed only.

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  • Profile picture of the author JimmySolis
    What program do you use to create the art for the T-Shirt? Do you use Illustrator or Photoshop? Online most people (on mots websites when I google for info) are using Illustartor. Also what DPI is recommended?

    Jimmy
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by JimmySolis View Post

      What program do you use to create the art for the T-Shirt? Do you use Illustrator or Photoshop? Online most people (on mots websites when I google for info) are using Illustartor. Also what DPI is recommended?

      Jimmy
      Photoshop - 300DPI
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        I'm sticking to USA
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        Photoshop - 300DPI
        Quick question, how much is your potential audience, if your targeting tight
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        • Profile picture of the author nicoli
          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          Quick question, how much is your potential audience, if your targeting tight
          between 5K to 60K depending on niche. I spend a ton of time narrowing it down and could probably be even more anal, but I just go with my gut when I think it is a winner....not enough time in the day!
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

            between 5K to 60K depending on niche. I spend a ton of time narrowing it down and could probably be even more anal, but I just go with my gut when I think it is a winner....not enough time in the day!
            So your campaign targets 60k people and you spend less than $.30 cpc? And you made over $4k after spending $600?

            Are you using optimized cpm?
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            • Profile picture of the author tints
              Everyone niche i try had high cpc. And I'm thinking these niches shouldn't have to much competition. How do you guys get ideas for niches to target. Not asking f or a hand out just some tips on how to brain storm
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            • Profile picture of the author nicoli
              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              So your campaign targets 60k people and you spend less than $.30 cpc? And you made over $4k after spending $600?

              Are you using optimized cpm?
              I've spent thousands and made thousands more. yep optimised
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Good Job Nicoli, I can't get it lower then .26 cents.
    Maybe I should change Niche,
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    • Profile picture of the author nicoli
      Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

      Good Job Nicoli, I can't get it lower then .26 cents.
      Maybe I should change Niche,
      26c is still ok man if you are getting decent conversions. I had some gigs that were like $2 cpc!! quickly moved on with my tail between my legs!
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      • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
        Originally Posted by nicoli View Post

        26c is still ok man if you are getting decent conversions. I had some gigs that were like $2 cpc!! quickly moved on with my tail between my legs!
        Not sure, I have a 20$ limit, then I close the campaign. I usually get from 1 to 4 sales.
        Wondering if I should increase it and let it run for about 100$
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        • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
          What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

          I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.

          Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

          Not sure, I have a 20$ limit, then I close the campaign. I usually get from 1 to 4 sales.
          Wondering if I should increase it and let it run for about 100$
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          • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

            I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.
            How many sales do you usually make on a campaign after spending $50?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              8-10 on average..

              Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

              How many sales do you usually make on a campaign after spending $50?
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              • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
                Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

                8-10 on average..
                That's a decent amount.

                Do you target 50k people or 1 million?

                And for the ads, do you create 5-10 of them with a picture of your t-shirt with borders, no borders, etc?
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          • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
            Originally Posted by DrewStevens View Post

            What's your profit per sale? If you're selling $39.99, 50-75 count hoodies, you should be making around $20 ea. As long as your ad frequency value remains 1.0, I've found a direct correlation between ad budget and unit sales. (i.e. spend $10, make $50; Spend $100, make $500).

            I use Excel to find an average profit per sale, and as long as that number is higher than my average ad cost per sale and I think I'll hit my goal before it ends, I let it continue.
            Thanks for this, very good information. So if you have spend 30$ and only made 1 sale, then you have a negative ROI, so you kill the ad?
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            • Profile picture of the author DrewStevens
              Not just yet. I investigate first to make sure the design alone is the source of poor sales. I'll double-check target market CPC settings, search for similar active designs, etc before I decide to kill a listing. I've also started using Travis' suggestion of buying 5 once you start the listing, then canceling them when sales start coming in.

              Originally Posted by BDE4Live View Post

              Thanks for this, very good information. So if you have spend 30$ and only made 1 sale, then you have a negative ROI, so you kill the ad?
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  • Profile picture of the author tints
    Anyone wanna review a campaign of mine?
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  • Profile picture of the author kimlle
    Originally Posted by petelta View Post

    What's up guys?

    Around a month ago, I shared a few tricks and techniques I've used to rake in an easy $150+ profit selling tshirts straight through Facebook. NO FAN PAGE... NO LIST... nothing needed to get started.

    Here's a link to the forum post which shows you that system I started with...
    ==> http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...rst-100-a.html

    Since that point, I've been playing around with these shirt sales more and more. Instead of focusing on building a fan page to start and following the typical game plan for internet marketing, I wanted to do things a little different.

    I wanted to be able to profit without any of those pieces... and be able to profit quickly. The only way to make this happen was for me to discover how to get a positive ROI quickly from Facebook ads.

    In the second half of that post I mention above, I share how I used a few bucks in Facebook ads to make sure my campaign went over the goal... but those ads weren't really generating much of a profit... they were just breaking even.

    I worked on this advertising system all holiday break so that I could figure out how to profit. Lucky enough, in only a few short weeks and a few hundred dollars invested, I figured it out!

    Now, today... only 3 weeks since my first successful campaign that started with only free traffic techniques, I have over 10 tshirt campaigns that are producing incredible profit... actually my revenue is triple the investment cost for most of these.

    Take a look at my latest one...



    $260 invested in ads and $800 revenue so far... and it's only been 4 days... I have over half the campaign time to go.

    I'll take it!

    This is just 1/10 of the campaigns I got producing these type of results right now. Best part of all... I started on this brand new business model less than 30 days ago. I fully expect to profit $10-$20k this month from this exact system. How's that for starting from scratch?

    So, what's the secret to this type of success with Facebook ads?

    TARGETING!!!!

    Who are you targeting with your ads? Do they have an extreme passion for what you're going to be presenting them? How hot is the topic you're showing them? Does the niche you're targeting have a viable SOCIAL MEDIA community?

    In the previous post I linked to above, we hit a very hot and buzz worthy topic... Auburn Football in it's prime of the media buzz.

    I mentioned these are great to go after, but not necessary in anyway. I'm actually having worse success with those major buzz topics, because everyone and their mother is trying to target that audience... so the competition is more saturated... your CPCs are going to be higher... and your design really has to stand out as the best one on the market.

    Going after hungry social media niches is a much better and long term option that I've found works great.

    Want an example of a social media shirt that did well for me? It was a simple text shirt that said "This Girl Loves Pugs".

    That was it... no buzz around that... just passion for the product. That equals easy sales and profit from very little work.

    My goal is to have 10-40 shirt campaigns ending every week from this point on. That's around $500/campaign coming in each week ($5k-$20k/week).

    So you know, not every campaign works out. I test $10-$20 into each ad campaign and if we aren't in the black by that test, I drop the design and move on. I'm uploading 10-15 shirt designs a day and around 2-3 will catch each day.

    I try and find a rebrandable angle as often as possible. If you look around successful Teespring campaigns right now, you'll see the common "This girl loves".... "God First, Family Then"... and the sons of anarchy logo accomadated to the target niche. My goal now is to create a few of these recurring brands to tackle every buyer niche I can find.

    Essential pieces I use are a graphic designer ($5-$15/shirt design), a VA to handle the fan page messages and interactive ($300/month), and the ad investment needed (I suggest having $500 to invest when starting just to learn what works).

    Hope this helps some of you guys and gets you motivated to rock out some Facebook ads.

    Travis
    Thanks for the share! I have a question. Why did you target the audience when you can target global population and have more potential to earn money?
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      Originally Posted by kimlle View Post

      Thanks for the share! I have a question. Why did you target the audience when you can target global population and have more potential to earn money?
      Total viewership is only 1 piece of the formula for earning more money... my more targeted audience shows the design to those people that already are interested... not everyone wants the shirts I'm pushing.
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    i still cant believe this! quite Amazing!
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  • Profile picture of the author montozza
    Awesome work, and more important - explained in great detail. This can be very lucrative. I didn't have a lot of success with FB ads but this gave me some ideas about how to implement new strategies for a greater ROI
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    Good post for anyone starting a Facebook Business
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    I made two converisions with a return of 18.00 so right now im just above break even. I'm getting alot of clicks and website clicks but not converting as much as i want it to.

    I noticed all of these clicks have come from mobile devices. i found out when i ran a report less, then 100 reach on desktop news feed.

    If i switch over to desktop only the CPC suggested bid will increase and most likely wont get shown as much unless i take a risk and bump up my cpc costs.

    Should i switch over and pay the higher cost for desktop only or let this ride out how its going now?

    anytype of advice would be helpful thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author blessbajoy
    Is it real?
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by blessbajoy View Post

      Is it real?

      is what real?
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
    On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

    I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

    So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

    Website clicks - 66
    CPWC - $0.25
    Advert Reach - 3k
    Total clicks - 130
    CTR - 4.5%

    Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

    Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

    Thanks again everyone!
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    • Profile picture of the author tints
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

      I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

      So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

      Website clicks - 66
      CPWC - $0.25
      Advert Reach - 3k
      Total clicks - 130
      CTR - 4.5%

      Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

      Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

      Thanks again everyone!
      oCPM would most likely get you the most impressions but it would cost you more probaly
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      • Profile picture of the author HelpIMaNoob
        Originally Posted by tints View Post

        oCPM would most likely get you the most impressions but it would cost you more probaly
        I mustn't be doing oCPM right because I end up paying way higher than CPC
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    • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
      Originally Posted by HelpIMaNoob View Post

      On my way to my first profitable campaign. Tipped with 3 days left and sales are increasing. Thanks to everyone in the thread for helping me! When I began this i'd never made a single sale online.

      I'm having trouble scaling my newest ad.

      So far today my ad has only $17 spent on a daily budget of $120. I am using CPC. Here are the numbers:

      Website clicks - 66
      CPWC - $0.25
      Advert Reach - 3k
      Total clicks - 130
      CTR - 4.5%

      Potential Campaign Audience - 82k

      Is there anyway to get more impressions? Will simply increasing the budget do it?

      Thanks again everyone!
      How are you getting such a high CTR?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicoli
        Originally Posted by richjerk321 View Post

        How are you getting such a high CTR?
        LOL, that's not high. I am getting between 15 to 20 %
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        • Profile picture of the author richjerk321