Killing it with Pinterest/Google Here's How

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I've gotten so much from this forum. Now it is time to give back.

How
Peppering your Pinboards with relevant affiliate links and CPA links get massive traffic when Google decides to make your pinboard the number one result in searches for the keywords that you target. This happens more for Pinterest than any other social media website except for maybe YouTube.

What you need
A keyword rich pinboard

Links, keyword rich descriptions and pictures for relevant items to pin

Links, keyword rich descriptions and pictures for relevant affiliate/CPA offers

A way to cloak the affiliate links (URL shortener, redirects, etc...)

Time and patience

Algo
You can't blast this up in a day. Trickling it in is the only way that this works. Testing has shown that the 80/20 rule is in effect. That is, at least 80% of the pins must be real and not affiliate links.
My algorithm goes something like this...

Once per day for each pinboard
Post one or two affiliate pins (flip a coin to determine whether it is one or two)

Post 9 to 14 real pins and repins from other people's pinboards. Less than half should be repins (roll a 6 sided die and add 8)

Automation
This can be easily automated with various tools. Perhaps the simplest is to have all of your future pins in spreadsheets and all of your pictures and links prepared.

For example, you have a pinboard about robotics projects.
You have an Excel spreadsheet that has a worksheet containing all the links, descriptions and filepaths/URLs of the pictures for real robotics projects.
Then there is another worksheet in the workbook containing all the repins you like for real robotics projects on other people's pinboards.
Then there is another worksheet in the workbook containing all the links, descriptions and filepaths/URLs of the pictures for your related affiliate and CPA links.
Each day you go through and add the appropriate ones to the board for that day.

Full automation can be achieved by using a mySQL database instead of spreadsheets, some code to randomize things and the Pinterest API to post the pins.

There are many ways available to go about doing this.

What about repins and following?
This must happen on its own. If you need to pursue this then your pinboard is not good and you should scrap it and start over. Real repins and followers are a sign that you are doing it right.

Quality
Text must be grammatically correct and compelling. PICTURES MUST BE VERY COMPELLING!(especially for your affiliate links) Think "What makes ME click a pin?"

Does it work?
I was skeptical at first. Then when I started making great money, I thought it was a short lived fluke. However, last week I signed a lease and paid in full for a beach house for June-August this summer with money that came completely from this system.
I just did a search for one of my top keywords on Google through a fresh VPN with no cookies set and my pinboards came up on Google as result number 1 and number 2. That's right, 1 AND 2. It's incredible how much Google loves Pinterest. They are two separate pinboards that I made on the same topic and they ARE #1 AND #2 on Google for a two word keyword search! I knew they were doing good because of the amount of affiliate income I made on them so far today.

This is simply a brief description that I can point people to when they ask about this technique. I may flesh it out into a full blown guide later but right now I make far more money spending my time making and maintaining pinboards than I would make from a guide

Please, understand that I won't respond to questions for more details because I don't want to hurt the good thing that I have going on right now. I thought carefully about how to present this in a way that gave the genuine details of how this works without threatening my own business model. Many people doing this will probably be upset with what I have divulged thus far.

As long as Google loves Pinterest (and hopefully buys them someday) this technique will work. It has been working magnificently for over a year and continues to improve beyond my wildest expectations.

Enjoy and good luck!
#killing #pinterest or google
  • Profile picture of the author Glynn Kosky
    cool story bro
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  • Profile picture of the author xpesos
    Sounds doable
    I had also ranked a couple of pinterest boards
    But there is one thing some niche tend to rank and some not no matter what you do

    It is not like that every time you get ranked
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  • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
    Thanks.

    I am really interested to get more details about this.


    Automation
    This can be easily automated with various tools. Perhaps the simplest is to have all of your future pins in spreadsheets and all of your pictures and links prepared.

    For example, you have a pinboard about robotics projects.
    You have an Excel spreadsheet that has a worksheet containing all the links, descriptions and filepaths/URLs of the pictures for real robotics projects.
    Then there is another worksheet in the workbook containing all the repins you like for real robotics projects on other people's pinboards.
    Then there is another worksheet in the workbook containing all the links, descriptions and filepaths/URLs of the pictures for your related affiliate and CPA links.
    Each day you go through and add the appropriate ones to the board for that day.

    Full automation can be achieved by using a mySQL database instead of spreadsheets, some code to randomize things and the Pinterest API to post the pins.

    There are many ways available to go about doing this.
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    • My automation is pretty complex but here it is...
      A headless browser (PhantomJS) with CasperJS
      Python
      MySQL database back end.

      It's been making good money for a year so you can imagine the time and effort that I have been motivated to put into this setup

      You can see in my prior posts that this started to go bonkers last May.
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

        My automation is pretty complex but here it is...
        A headless browser (PhantomJS) with CasperJS
        Python
        MySQL database back end.

        It's been making good money for a year so you can imagine the time and effort that I have been motivated to put into this setup

        You can see in my prior posts that this started to go bonkers last May.
        Thanks Man,

        I will dig into this and see how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author tofrar
    Do you start every new pinboard on new "author" name ?
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  • Profile picture of the author melvinsh
    How much to set me up?
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    • Profile picture of the author 9999
      Sounds like it is worth giving it a try. Thanks for posting.
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    • Originally Posted by melvinsh View Post

      How much to set me up?
      The time I spend setting up other people could be spent setting up more for myself.

      I know that sounds selfish and well... it is. But it is something that I never understood about people selling 'systems' for making money out of nothing. Why don't they just make more money instead of all the pain and work of selling it to others for less than they would make themselves. Typically, I've learned the hard way that these systems aren't real.

      That said, I do know many others who do what I do because it is easy for me to spot them now. One of them is offering this system for $3000 US. I found out because a client of mine contacted me and asked about it. I had made a custom Magento plugin for them last year as a freelance job and it was around the time that I started making good money with Pinterest because Google had picked some of my pinboards to be #1 for competitive keywords. I told the client about this because we were working closely together at the time.

      Anyway, a couple of months ago he called me and said that someone approached him with this system and would charge him a one time fee of $3000. He has products and images that would work well at this. I told him that it sounded like my system and told him what he could do. Then I asked for beer in lieu of the $3000

      So, it seems someone is selling this but for a prohibitively high cost.
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      • Profile picture of the author melvinsh
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

        The time I spend setting up other people could be spent setting up more for myself.

        I know that sounds selfish and well... it is. But it is something that I never understood about people selling 'systems' for making money out of nothing. Why don't they just make more money instead of all the pain and work of selling it to others for less than they would make themselves. Typically, I've learned the hard way that these systems aren't real.

        That said, I do know many others who do what I do because it is easy for me to spot them now. One of them is offering this system for $3000 US. I found out because a client of mine contacted me and asked about it. I had made a custom Magento plugin for them last year as a freelance job and it was around the time that I started making good money with Pinterest because Google had picked some of my pinboards to be #1 for competitive keywords. I told the client about this because we were working closely together at the time.

        Anyway, a couple of months ago he called me and said that someone approached him with this system and would charge him a one time fee of $3000. He has products and images that would work well at this. I told him that it sounded like my system and told him what he could do. Then I asked for beer in lieu of the $3000

        So, it seems someone is selling this but for a prohibitively high cost.
        I see, traffic would have to be really targeted and would have to be hundreds of visitors a day to spend that much on 1 sysytem.
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

        The time I spend setting up other people could be spent setting up more for myself.

        I know that sounds selfish and well... it is. But it is something that I never understood about people selling 'systems' for making money out of nothing. Why don't they just make more money instead of all the pain and work of selling it to others for less than they would make themselves. Typically, I've learned the hard way that these systems aren't real.

        That said, I do know many others who do what I do because it is easy for me to spot them now. One of them is offering this system for $3000 US. I found out because a client of mine contacted me and asked about it. I had made a custom Magento plugin for them last year as a freelance job and it was around the time that I started making good money with Pinterest because Google had picked some of my pinboards to be #1 for competitive keywords. I told the client about this because we were working closely together at the time.

        Anyway, a couple of months ago he called me and said that someone approached him with this system and would charge him a one time fee of $3000. He has products and images that would work well at this. I told him that it sounded like my system and told him what he could do. Then I asked for beer in lieu of the $3000

        So, it seems someone is selling this but for a prohibitively high cost.
        Nice update. Would you consider making available the system to couple of interested people ? This will save us writing afresh. The one Im using now - Pinranker, I will say its deceiving itself". lol
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      • Profile picture of the author fatchap
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

        The time I spend setting up other people could be spent setting up more for myself.

        I know that sounds selfish and well... it is. But it is something that I never understood about people selling 'systems' for making money out of nothing. Why don't they just make more money instead of all the pain and work of selling it to others for less than they would make themselves. .
        So very true. I have never understood how someone claiming to make huge money with their 'system' would sell it rather than just keep doing it themselves.

        As a matter of interest I have a pinbord on page 1 of google having sone no sort of backlinking so I know it's possible.

        Have to be honest though - didn't understand any of your explantion about how you automate!
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  • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
    Between, do you reckon the software PINRANKER will be of any good or alternative to custom software in this case?
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  • Using custom software makes it a lot easier to scale and it makes it extremely unlikely that all of your accounts will be shutdown in one fell swoop.
    A lot of times you will build boards that make a few euros per day once they are built up and then you need to maintain these carefully because all of a sudden a number of them will get picked up by the big G and become incredibly profitable. My custom setup is focused on monitoring and maintaining this specific scenario.
    There is often no rhyme or reason to explain what becomes successful so it requires a lot of testing. When it works I almost always scratch my head and think "Why?"
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  • Profile picture of the author melvinsh
    Im wondering if you can bypass posting from API through mysql and receive even more benefit through social media syndication since you will have other people sharing your pins for you, or is it less about being re-pinned and more about something else?
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  • Profile picture of the author abhish
    Really a good one. Like me I am sure there would have been many searching some real time information about Pinterest and at least I got an idea that how it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author bradhog
    Nice informative post about pinterest. Thanks for the posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author ghulam786
    Yes you are right. this is a very effective way to get traffic from Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author brian606
      I am definitely going to have to try this, thanks for the info man.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Great post, very effective tips,
    should try,
    thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author filmschoolwtf
    I am not even able to verify my website from Pinterest. Does pinterest really work for affiliate? Can you Share your story in a more statistic way?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonlwe
    Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

    What you need
    A keyword rich pinboard

    Links, keyword rich descriptions and pictures for relevant items to pin

    Links, keyword rich descriptions and pictures for relevant affiliate/CPA offers

    A way to cloak the affiliate links (URL shortener, redirects, etc...)
    You've got a very wonderful post here. The guide is superb and helped a lot.

    I hope you can help out with this question. Can you tell us how do you cloak your links? Is bit.ly okay? Or are other methods needed?
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    • Thanks!

      bit.ly is easy to spy on so I don't recommend that one but others are fine. Simply make sure that the stats aren't publicly available like they are for bit.ly

      The most common technique that I see others use is to post a link to a webpage that redirects to a URL shortener address which redirects to the affiliate link. Don't know quite why this is the most common technique. Maybe something about it makes it harder to detect. A direct Amazon affiliate link or Clickbank hop link would be very obvious and easy to block or punish if they decided to do that.

      What I do these days is make a simple page that emphasizes the image and pin that page.

      As an example...
      BIG IMAGE
      social links to FB TW and G+ accounts
      ability to comment or rate the picture
      The big image and a text anchor tag beneath it or above it will take the visitor through the link cloaker (address shortener, redirect technique du jour, etc) to the affiliate link.
      There are tons of WP themes and plugins for this.

      Remember that the only way this works for good money is when Google picks up the Pinterest page for a high paying, high traffic keyword.

      I don't know how long they will give an advantage to pinboards in the SERPs but a year ago I was wondering this and they have not slowed down at all yet. I always figured they were preparing to buy it. Maybe they still are.

      The ONLY social media that gets more of an advantage in the G SERPs than Pinterest these days is Youtube. A Youtube video can be used to push ONE affiliate link but a pinboard can push over a hundred if done carefully.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonlwe
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post


        What I do these days is make a simple page that emphasizes the image and pin that page.

        As an example...
        BIG IMAGE
        social links to FB TW and G+ accounts
        ability to comment or rate the picture
        The big image and a text anchor tag beneath it or above it will take the visitor through the link cloaker (address shortener, redirect technique du jour, etc) to the affiliate link.
        There are tons of WP themes and plugins for this.
        I might be asking too much but can I know what wp plugin you're using? And if it's okay, can you show us one of your pages in your example?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Logan
    Great info thanks. Pinterest is making me some good passive income too (more than $1500/mo). It is really possible for everyone! You can pm me if you want to learn more about my strategy...
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  • Profile picture of the author profsl
    This is a neat idea Sheldon. I am going to apply this to my primary Twitter account which is driven by automatic. I use dlvr.it to send news feeds from my site to Twitter which drive about 5% of my traffic. I have now added some affiliate links through automated tweets via Tweetadder which also conducts automatic retweeting of trusted related accounts. I get a decent amount of click-throughs and several retweets of the automated posts every day, so I figured this additional layer couldn't hurt!
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  • Profile picture of the author dc53123
    @sheldon

    How do you avoid the pinterest spam blocks? This has been my issue. I haven't even been posting too many pins per day, but still get flagged as spam - on multiple accounts that use robots.

    Any advice?
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    • Originally Posted by dc53123 View Post

      @sheldon

      How do you avoid the pinterest spam blocks? This has been my issue. I haven't even been posting too many pins per day, but still get flagged as spam - on multiple accounts that use robots.

      Any advice?
      I go to great lengths to build and test my automation in order to insure that it is indiscernible from an actual human being simply engaging with Pinterest.
      That is why it is all custom made and not the same as other bots out there, and why I use a headless browser like PhantomJS.

      I've often wondered about some of the macro based automation out there but never tried it. If you can randomize the timing of actions and remove any identifying features than they may work.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaintechnosoft
    Take a second to ensure fans and prospects can find you by going to "settings" and turning off the "hide from search engines" option. The more boards you create, the more likely search engine spiders will notice you, especially if the boards cover a variety of topics and have titles with strong keywords.
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    • People who have seen my work in this project are most interested in the automation aspect of it. They want to know how to do it successfully.

      I guess that it would be appropriate at this point to discuss how one acquires the skills to do successful automation of internet marketing tasks. It is a slippery subject that is often considered to be a "dark art" because it is abused so frequently. Sadly so many successful techniques are abused to the point of self-destruction in the realm of internet marketing.

      To be successful at this, one must know both sides of the coin. That is, an understanding of how to prevent automation will enlighten one as to how to avoid being prevented.

      This concept is at the core of competitive internet marketing because we are often in a position to see what is working for others.

      For example, quite a few years ago, I promoted a CPA offer for a "quit smoking" product by creating a compelling website that presold the offer. The website was marketed via Adwords and paid over $10 per completed offer. It immediately began making a net profit of over $100 a day. Wow!
      After 2 months of this, I was contacted by my account manager and told that I could no longer promote this offer. They would not take my phone calls and answered my emails curtly. They then suspended my account but did pay me the money I was still owed.
      A month further on I did a search out of curiousity in hopes of finding a new CPA offer out there to promote. This kind of competitive intelligence is how an internet marketer often finds what to promote.
      You can't just look at a list of offers or affilate products. You must look at what appears to be successful. The easiest to spot are things that garner your own interests. If you buy something online, you ask yourself "Why?".

      This is working to your own strengths and is also important in who you hire or seek advice from. Like for developing a complex automation system you would hire someone like myself because I have spent considerable time asking "Why?" when automation has worked for me. Or if you need someone to do a technical review of a product or WSO about automation again you would either gain the experience first or hire someone like myself.

      Asking "Why?" when you buy something leads you down the path of becoming an expert in selling it to others who are like you. It is the easiest way to find successful offers that you can promote. Not so easy is trying to determine what is successful with products that don't neccesarily appeal to you. But the internet makes it easier since you can determine which marketers are spending a lot of money on their promotions and are not going out of business. They must be doing something right and you can attempt to emulate them. That is what happened to me.

      So I am looking at search results to see if anyone else is doing a "quit smoking" offer like the one I was suspended from and I was surprised to see.
      The same adwords ad I was running.
      A copy of the same website I had built.
      And...
      upon further investigation, the domain for that website was owned by the account representative at the CPA marketing firm who suspended my account. Actually, it was owned by a family member of his that lived at the same address as him.
      He saw that my system worked so he eliminated me and put up a copy of my system for himself.

      This is my point. That if you are in an advantageous position to see "what works" or even "what doesn't work" then you have an edge.

      I have done web security work for many years and it has often involved doing battle with automation related attacks. I have spent a lot of energy learning how to detect and block these. Xrumer attacks on forums, dictionary attacks on Wordpress logins, relentless attacks on RPC on Windows IIS servers and on and on. If I block them too broadly, I end up blocking legitimate visitors so the solution must be exact.

      This knowledge of detecting automation is the greatest tool in creating undetectable automation. Success can be as simple as knowing that an automation task that moves slowly over ten hours will go undetected as opposed to running that same task over twenty minutes which will sound the klaxons and light up detection circuits as a massive attack.

      Becoming really good at undetectable automation is most easily achieved by becoming good at detecting automation. It's not an easy solution but the best ones are rarely easy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post

        People who have seen my work in this project are most interested in the automation aspect of it. They want to know how to do it successfully.

        I guess that it would be appropriate at this point to discuss how one acquires the skills to do successful automation of internet marketing tasks. It is a slippery subject that is often considered to be a "dark art" because it is abused so frequently. Sadly so many successful techniques are abused to the point of self-destruction in the realm of internet marketing.

        To be successful at this, one must know both sides of the coin. That is, an understanding of how to prevent automation will enlighten one as to how to avoid being prevented.

        This concept is at the core of competitive internet marketing because we are often in a position to see what is working for others.

        For example, quite a few years ago, I promoted a CPA offer for a "quit smoking" product by creating a compelling website that presold the offer. The website was marketed via Adwords and paid over $10 per completed offer. It immediately began making a net profit of over $100 a day. Wow!
        After 2 months of this, I was contacted by my account manager and told that I could no longer promote this offer. They would not take my phone calls and answered my emails curtly. They then suspended my account but did pay me the money I was still owed.
        A month further on I did a search out of curiousity in hopes of finding a new CPA offer out there to promote. This kind of competitive intelligence is how an internet marketer often finds what to promote.
        You can't just look at a list of offers or affilate products. You must look at what appears to be successful. The easiest to spot are things that garner your own interests. If you buy something online, you ask yourself "Why?".

        This is working to your own strengths and is also important in who you hire or seek advice from. Like for developing a complex automation system you would hire someone like myself because I have spent considerable time asking "Why?" when automation has worked for me. Or if you need someone to do a technical review of a product or WSO about automation again you would either gain the experience first or hire someone like myself.

        Asking "Why?" when you buy something leads you down the path of becoming an expert in selling it to others who are like you. It is the easiest way to find successful offers that you can promote. Not so easy is trying to determine what is successful with products that don't neccesarily appeal to you. But the internet makes it easier since you can determine which marketers are spending a lot of money on their promotions and are not going out of business. They must be doing something right and you can attempt to emulate them. That is what happened to me.

        So I am looking at search results to see if anyone else is doing a "quit smoking" offer like the one I was suspended from and I was surprised to see.
        The same adwords ad I was running.
        A copy of the same website I had built.
        And...
        upon further investigation, the domain for that website was owned by the account representative at the CPA marketing firm who suspended my account. Actually, it was owned by a family member of his that lived at the same address as him.
        He saw that my system worked so he eliminated me and put up a copy of my system for himself.

        This is my point. That if you are in an advantageous position to see "what works" or even "what doesn't work" then you have an edge.

        I have done web security work for many years and it has often involved doing battle with automation related attacks. I have spent a lot of energy learning how to detect and block these. Xrumer attacks on forums, dictionary attacks on Wordpress logins, relentless attacks on RPC on Windows IIS servers and on and on. If I block them too broadly, I end up blocking legitimate visitors so the solution must be exact.

        This knowledge of detecting automation is the greatest tool in creating undetectable automation. Success can be as simple as knowing that an automation task that moves slowly over ten hours will go undetected as opposed to running that same task over twenty minutes which will sound the klaxons and light up detection circuits as a massive attack.

        Becoming really good at undetectable automation is most easily achieved by becoming good at detecting automation. It's not an easy solution but the best ones are rarely easy.
        :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author anandshaw
    Sheldon , your post has been a great read. can you share your experience with do's/don'ts on creating hard to detect automation?
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    • It appears that this party may be coming to a close

      A person or group of people have found a 'dirty trick' to steal my success. It works like this...

      1. Find pinboards that are ranking high in Google (like many of mine were)

      2. Slowly build up a new pinboard that is exactly the same as the one that is ranking well with only a few small changes in text and of course, setting the affiliate links to pay you. (not repinning the original but actually building the same board.)

      3. Use a technique that I am loathe to reveal that causes the original pinboard to be reported as spam or copyright violation and causes it to be suspended.

      4. Very quickly, Google picks up the copy in place of the recently suspended site and begins sending incredible amounts of traffic to it.

      I am certainly positioned to use this nasty technique myself but I do not "roll that way" as they say.

      My whole technique was based on the Google's policy of ranking pinboards so highly and I always knew it would end eventually. Though I never expected it to end with a malicious hijacking technique

      Ah, well. On to the next thing. I have some Twitter ideas to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author justian
    Thank you for sharing this information. I already use Pinterest for about 2 months now, but do-it manually. I think it's the time for me to do it automatically or semi-automatic ...
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    • Originally Posted by justian View Post

      Thank you for sharing this information. I already use Pinterest for about 2 months now, but do-it manually. I think it's the time for me to do it automatically or semi-automatic ...
      It is still a great way to get traffic but you are not going to come close to $20,000 a month without getting your pinboards picked up by Google.

      Next month I will probably cancel the Rackspace and Linode servers that I had setup to handle the redirects because it was such an absolutely incredible amount of concurrent connections at its peak. It was a wild wonderful ride and I'm coming out way ahead.

      A little scared of trying to find the next big thing though.
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    Getting pinterest pins to rank on Google first page I never heard of this.Thanks Sheldon for this info I will add this to my toolbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author JodyRossDeane
    Yes thanks Sheldon for this cool info. You rock!
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    • Happy days are here again!

      I had the penalties removed from my Pinboards very easily once I pointed out that the complaints made were without merit. It took about a week but when they were live again, it was too late. The people that reported the boards had already made copies that were picked up by Google in place of my Pinboards and there was no way to change it back

      Remember, my success was completely based on Google giving my Pinboards a ranking in the top 3 for big money keywords since Google loves Pinterest way more than if I made a website of my own with the same links.

      That changed last week. I haven't looked at my affiliate income for days and when I checked today, I could not believe my eyes. Back to incredible numbers!!! Yesterday was one of my top 5 days ever.

      It seems that the copied boards were removed for some reason. I swear that I did not have anything to do with it. Then luckily, mine were picked up by Google again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Stewart
    Thank you for sharing your info, Sheldon. I've been experimenting with this for a few days. I'm a software developer by trade, and the automation aspect of this is extremely intriguing to me. I'll end up creating my own headless browser implementation after I find a few good niches.

    How long does it take for google to rank a board, generally speaking? I'm looking for feedback about whether my niche is worth monetizing. I want to be able to get good feedback quickly so I'm not throwing keywords at a wall and hoping that some will stick.
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    • The fastest was about one month but I don't build my pinboards in a day. Usually seven weeks or so before they get Google attention.

      Look for things that already do. I don't know how to monetize this one but I did see it last year...

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      Last year when pinboards were in the top 3 results in the SERPs for that term the pinboards had only a fraction of the pins and followers that they have now. They became so popular BECAUSE they started to be listed high up in the G SERPs and so they added a lot more pins.

      They aren't ranking as high anymore because YouTube beats them now. YouTube is the only thing G seems to love more than Pinterest these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    This was probably one of the best reads on the WF forum I have ever read. Appreciate you dropping all the wisdom Sheldon. Although, I most likely wouldn't venture into automation of Pinterest myself, I did enjoy the read. Thanks.
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    The 80/20 rule works nicely Sheldon. Draw users in with value and then make the offer. Smart!
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  • Profile picture of the author prashantk7
    Gotta say this is one extremely useful thread. I'm way behind the curve on Pinterest and a lot of what you've said in this thread. But bookmarking it for future reference. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author cowboyhaze
    What type of affiliate programs do you use that are effective? I know pinterest blocked amazon associates... do you direct link or use a landing page or something?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Stewart
      Originally Posted by cowboyhaze View Post

      What type of affiliate programs do you use that are effective? I know pinterest blocked amazon associates... do you direct link or use a landing page or something?
      You can link to a landing page on your site. You should probably cloak your affiliate link, but Pinterest doesn't seem to mind landing pages.

      You can't link directly to your affiliate offer, or even do a redirect because pinterest will follow that redirect.
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
        Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

        You can link to a landing page on your site. You should probably cloak your affiliate link, but Pinterest doesn't seem to mind landing pages.

        You can't link directly to your affiliate offer, or even do a redirect because pinterest will follow that redirect.

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          Originally Posted by Emmanuel Sopitan View Post

          Hi Jason Stewart, Trust all is well. Please check your inbox, I sent you a message.

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    Ugh. Still confused with this automation thing... :/
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    • Originally Posted by st0nec0ld View Post

      Ugh. Still confused with this automation thing... :/
      At first you can do it manually then later the automation is easier because you have a better idea of what it needs to do.
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  • Thank you Panda 4.0!

    Pinboards are ranking better than I ever dreamed they would.

    For Michelle, Steve and Mike...
    Don't pin affiliate links. The way to do it is to pin pages with a large compelling picture and then on that page ONLY have an affiliate link or ads. That way the visitor coming from Pinterest has no place else to go. If they are obvious aff links like CJ, be sure to cloak them. Having the usual social icons/links is okay too.

    The beauty of this is when your pinboard gets picked up by G other people will follow and repin your thin pages like crazy.

    G may have won the war on thin affiliates in the SERPs but this completely gets around it!
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    • Profile picture of the author pjv
      Thanks for the info.

      Do I need to use proxies for each new Pinterst board?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Stewart
    Thanks for the update!

    I've finally ranked a few pinterest boards on google. I'm making some money, but not seeing anywhere close to the amount of traffic that you are.

    The secret sauce seems to be finding keywords for which there are no existing pinterest boards. It's very difficult to find a set of keywords that don't already have pinterest boards created for them. The people that got in early are the lucky ones who are ranking #1 for the high search volume keywords.

    Those just starting out with this... There's still money to be made, but you have to get creative with your keywords. Long tails work well, but don't have high search volume. Find a bunch of long tail keywords, make pinterest boards for them and you WILL see traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author themikerogers
      Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

      Those just starting out with this... There's still money to be made, but you have to get creative with your keywords. Long tails work well, but don't have high search volume. Find a bunch of long tail keywords, make pinterest boards for them and you WILL see traffic.
      Good info.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
    Wow very good story. Never thought of using Pins to rank. Kind of reminds me a bit like how Viral Nova does catchy titles to attract viewers.
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    • Google's algorithms are too immature to see that the vast majority of pinboards are meretricious.


      It is an infectious condition since repinning and following is often done with little thought or investigation.

      As such, it is very easy to get thin affiliate pages in front of many people using this technique. People who are at least marginally interested in the topic.

      I do not believe that this will be the downfall of Pinterest but it is definitely its Achille's heel. The next great thing to appear in this space will probably deal with this aspect directly.

      What makes this so fascinating is that it flies in the face of Google's arduous efforts over the years to focus on quality yet like a naive tourist in a distant souvenir stand, they can not see that it is mostly 'beautiful garbage' which is actually not very high quality at all.

      Perhaps Google simply fears Pinterest may enter the 'search engine' business and they are 'keeping their friends close but their enemies closer'.

      Being honest and open about this allows you to make better decisions and not be caught up in the illusion. Understand that 20,000 people came to your thin page from Pinterest today because the picture and the description were compelling. Not because you created something of high quality.

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      • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
        Originally Posted by Sheldon Slononazinski View Post


        Being honest and open about this allows you to make better decisions and not be caught up in the illusion. Understand that 20,000 people came to your thin page from Pinterest today because the picture and the description were compelling. Not because you created something of high quality.

        Very good point you make there.

        Very similar to thousands (or even millions) of people buying things of very low quality (such as some abs machines or cellulite creams on late night infomercials).
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        • Originally Posted by greenowl123 View Post

          Very good point you make there.

          Very similar to thousands (or even millions) of people buying things of very low quality (such as some abs machines or cellulite creams on late night infomercials).
          Exactly. I admit to watching infomercials in the middle of the night because there is something compelling in the way that they are presented.
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  • Craftsy is going to start paying $2 per signup this month.

    Many of you know that they are one of the easiest affiliate links to put into Pinterest. I know people who make thousands a month from them through their pinboards that get picked up by Google and are in the top 5 for popular SERP pages.

    Pin a free pattern at Craftsy, they have to sign up to download it, cha-ching! you get $2.

    It is bonkers that this system still works and now it is going to work even better.
    Enjoy!
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  • Profile picture of the author IskaDev
    oh...it's a wonderful subject
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  • Profile picture of the author fsiegel
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    This seems to be very doable. I should try this. Thanks for sharing this!
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  • Profile picture of the author rickdangelo
    This sounds like it can be done easily. I shout try this out. Thanks!
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