Why isnt there any section for FOREX trade and stock market?

8 years ago

There are other forums dedicated to just that - trading.

Trading involves risk and requires knowledge. After a few days here I realized this is the place where they would sell you some "how to trade" ebooks, but won't trade a penny themselves.

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Hamadoto

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Star Man

There are other forums dedicated to just that - trading.

Trading involves risk and requires knowledge. After a few days here I realized this is the place where they would sell you some "how to trade" ebooks, but won't trade a penny themselves.

agree with that, but it's same as creating a successful website or blog, etc..

it wont harm to have a section to share at least simple strategies or so

and yeah, its risky but fast money

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Star Man

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

agree with that, but it's same as creating a successful website or blog, etc..

it wont harm to have a section to share at least simple strategies or so

and yeah, its risky but fast money

Tell me about it. I started with $100 to test waters in March and turned it into $1300 by June. But lost quite a lot in August as I had invested in Palladium at $600. When it fell below $550 my account was wiped out. If I uploaded about $300 to protect my positions it would have turned into another $1000 profit by October when Palladium reached $700.

Just start a thread or continue with this one.
Simple strategy? Buy Wheat below 490 and sell above 525.
If it falls below 460 buy more.

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Hamadoto

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Star Man

Tell me about it. I started with $100 to test waters in March and turned it into $1300 by June. But lost quite a lot in August as I had invested in Palladium at $600. When it fell below $550 my account was wiped out. If I uploaded about $300 to protect my positions it would have turned into another $1000 profit by October when Palladium reached $700.

Just start a thread or continue with this one.
Simple strategy? Buy Wheat below 490 and sell above 525.
If it falls below 460 buy more.

what if after i bought wheat @ 460, it falls below more?

hehehe

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Star Man

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

what if after i bought wheat @ 460, it falls below more?

hehehe

Well, if you want to discuss this, tell me what would you do?

As you know it's about the risk and reward.
When was the last time wheat was selling much lower than $460 per contract (100 bushels)?
What was the all time high price?

It's sitting just above 50% of all time high right now. I see this as an opportunity to invest.
The detailed reply would be too long and I am not sure if you are actually interested. Just watch the price of wheat for a few weeks and see if it was a good idea. I have invested in wheat at $485.83 on October 20th at 17:56:21 Target is way above $525, but I might unload a portion at $525

Of course the contract will expire on December the 1st, and it might reopen with a $10+ gap, in this case I'll wait until the gap closes or look for another opportunity.

Basically, the simple strategy is buy low and sell high. Never use stop loss. Never open short positions, the loss in this case is unlimited. Sit on the trade until it becomes profitable. I never trade FOREX. Just shares and commodities. Any company can go bankrupt and the price of share to $0, or become a penny stock and never recover, so you can lose entire investment. A commodity, on the other hand, can never go to $0. Can you imagine some company digging Gold or Silver or growing Food and giving it away for free?

What's your simple strategy?

And oh, BTW, it's not the fast way to make money. If you start trading with the money that you need to access next week or next month, you might be in trouble.

"and yeah, its risky but fast money"

Risky trades = fast money (or no money).
Low risk long term trades = slow, but certain money.

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Valuable Solos 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Star Man

Risky trades = fast money (or no money).
Low risk long term trades = slow, but certain money.

Not always true. You can do short term, low risk trades (scalping) and many long term trades are actually high risk because the business could go out of business and/or you sit on a losing trade to try and get your money back when you could have just sold at a loss and then win with your next trade (sunk cost/opportunity cost).
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Star Man

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Star Man

Just watch the price of wheat for a few weeks and see if it was a good idea. I have invested in wheat at $485.83 on October 20th at 17:56:21 Target is way above $525, but I might unload a portion at $525

Wheat is up 4% after today's trading session. Closed at 509.
US Wheat Price - Investing.com

Today I bought heating oil at 1.45

Heating Oil Price - Investing.com

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

Originally Posted by jackiedesign

Forex trades are scam. I lost there my $600

They might be a lot of things, but the trades themselves are not a scam.

Neither are legal lotteries, horse track betting, sports betting, stock trading, commodities trading, etc.

They're all guaranteed ways to lose your shirt if you don't know what you're doing, and a good way to lose sometimes even if you do.

Originally Posted by Star Man

Wheat is up 4% after today's trading session. Closed at 509.
US Wheat Price - Investing.com

I am up $23 per contract.

Today I bought heating oil at 1.45

Heating Oil Price - Investing.com

You seem to be turning this into a "follow me" type thread, which is not allowed.

How long before a Forex trading program shows up in your sig?

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Star Man 8 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

You seem to be turning this into a "follow me" type thread, which is not allowed.

How long before a Forex trading program shows up in your sig?

I don't trade FOREX. I don't gamble.
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Star Man 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Star Man

Just start a thread or continue with this one.
Simple strategy? Buy Wheat below 490 and sell above 525.
If it falls below 460 buy more.

It's a pity there is no section dedicated to trading.

Anyway, I sold at $525 and $513 a few days ago and getting ready for the second round. Same strategy, buy below $490 sell above $525

http://www.investing.com/commodities/us-wheat
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marguerite

8 years ago

I doubt the warrior forum has a section on all the ways people are making money online right now. This being said if forex is your thing there are lots of forums out there for that.

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magiclouie

8 years ago

I am investing in Philippine Stock Market so I would like to see a section dedicated for that so I know how other countries do that as well.

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8 years ago

Because this is marketing right?

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Regional Warrior

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

isn't this considerd to be one of the many ways to make money from internet?
despite that, the warrior community seems to have no interest in it

They did try this ages ago but with all the other Advisory forum that were starting never really got off the ground , and seeing that there other people wanting there nitch listed it is a long Que

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allegandro

8 years ago

Why don't they have a section yachts?

Because successful marketers also like yachts.

Forex has NOTHING to do with marketing.

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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

isn't this considerd to be one of the many ways to make money from internet?
despite that, the warrior community seems to have no interest in it

It does not fall in the traditional category of Internet Marketing. You are NOT doing any Marketing i.e. Promotions, Selling, Advertising etc..

Interesting enough, if there was a section it would be overrun with a lot of charlatans pumping Forex programs that promise a get rich system for picking winning trades.

Total BS scammers.

I have traded for 16 years and there is no such thing as a sure thing in the Stock Market or Forex or Futures

It takes years of studying, practicing, and testing. And losing money before you can consistently take money out of the Markets

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Steve B 8 years ago

You don't understand your terms.

Forex and the stock market are simply the subjects of broad marketplaces. . . just like dating, exercise, health, travel, and weight loss.

This forum is about Internet marketing - making money online irregardless of the niche and marketplace.

Specific markets (like forex) need their own forum as the majority of people in the WF would not be interested or qualified to discuss every specific market. Can you imagine how confusing and watered down this place would be if every online market was covered and had its own section here?

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64wegrow

8 years ago

Every time I hear someone mention Forex and being able to predict world currency's on ANY level, I simply shake my head in disbelief. People need to realize that trying to make money through Forex on the long term is no different than going into your local casino and expecting to make money consisitanty there.

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Popche

8 years ago

I agree with 64wegrow, Forex is risky and it can lead to big problems if someone motivates people and then they go into a hole. There are a lot of scams with Forex and this forum has many beginners, they can lose a lot.

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Hamadoto

8 years ago

i just though that forex is a kind of a scam and a lose/lose situation for most people therefore no section for it here, didnt understand what this site is realy all about, thanks for clarification

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jackiedesign

8 years ago

Forex trades are scam. I lost there my $600

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Sid Hale

8 years ago

To answer the original question...

I would point out that in the 4 days since you started this thread, it is the only thread specifically targeted at the subject.

In short, that hardly justifies its own section in the forum.

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Juan Burton

8 years ago

I have been successfully been trading in FOREX since 2008, wasn't successful at first but I didn't just give up and call it a scam. I kept learning and studying and getting better every time. It's risky if you are not financially educated or at least have an knowledge of how the markets work. Can't trade on emotions and must have patience. When you invest in anything without any knowledge or strategy, then yes, you would be gambling. Might as well call the stock market a scam... smh lol Get educated, pratice, learn, fail, succeed, rinse and repeat

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Joe Benjamin

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

isn't this considerd to be one of the many ways to make money from internet?
despite that, the warrior community seems to have no interest in it

I thought so, too.

Didn't think anyone would be interested in trading
here because it is a marketing/sales forum.

But, the responses prove otherwise.

Personally, I don't think it's a good idea because
there are so many scams out there, people would
fall so easily for the hype like they do elsewhere
here.

Originally Posted by Star Man

There are other forums dedicated to just that - trading.

Trading involves risk and requires knowledge. After a few days here I realized this is the place where they would sell you some "how to trade" ebooks, but won't trade a penny themselves.

Sad, isn't it?

Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

It's so much easier to sell anything you personally
do, believe in and successful at then trying to learn
the 'lingo'...understand the market or work out the
demographics when you do what you represent.

There would be far too many people who don't
know what they're talking about, failed at trading
or 'heard it was a good market to enter in to" trying
to give advice that could cause literal financial ruin.

Trading is serious business, and selling products,
coaching, services, etc. about it is just as serious
because people have a tendency to listen to every
word and take it literally.

I understand the risk involved. It's real. So, I can
convey that same level of risk management and
patient behavior to people who want to trade but
need to learn how to excersize control of emotions
to succeed.

There would be to many people putting something
together to make a quick buck disregarding the
balances of peoples trade accounts because they
don't trade themselves and have no concept of it.

Originally Posted by 64wegrow

Every time I hear someone mention Forex and being able to predict world currency's on ANY level, I simply shake my head in disbelief. People need to realize that trying to make money through Forex on the long term is no different than going into your local casino and expecting to make money consisitanty there.

That's strange because that is not my experience
whatsoever...nor anyone else successful trading I
know. Some who make sums I couldn't mention
because it's too outside the realm of belief.

Originally Posted by Popche

I agree with 64wegrow, Forex is risky and it can lead to big problems if someone motivates people and then they go into a hole. There are a lot of scams with Forex and this forum has many beginners, they can lose a lot.

True, that's why I wouldn't advocate for it because
of the 'easy pray' syndrome.

Although the potential is legitamate, I'd rather total
beginners stay away from it until they do their own
due diligence in trading-based forums.

Originally Posted by jackiedesign

Forex trades are scam. I lost there my $600

So that makes trading scammy because *you* lost
your $600 investment?

Taking personal responsibility and accountability
is the first step to success in any business.

Originally Posted by Juan Burton

I have been successfully been trading in FOREX since 2008, wasn't successful at first but I didn't just give up and call it a scam. I kept learning and studying and getting better every time. It's risky if you are not financially educated or at least have an knowledge of how the markets work. Can't trade on emotions and must have patience. When you invest in anything without any knowledge or strategy, then yes, you would be gambling. Might as well call the stock market a scam... smh lol Get educated, pratice, learn, fail, succeed, rinse and repeat

Get educated, pratice, learn, fail, succeed, rinse and repeat...

...lol...that about sums up what happened for me. Some people
take off running under the right training, guidance and leadership.

Unfortunately, I wasn't one of those people. Just glad I didn't give
up and quit before I found success.

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Hamadoto

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Benjamin

I thought so, too.

Didn't think anyone would be interested in trading
here because it is a marketing/sales forum.

But, the responses prove otherwise.

Personally, I don't think it's a good idea because
there are so many scams out there, people would
fall so easily for the hype like they do elsewhere
here.

Sad, isn't it?

Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

It's so much easier to sell anything you personally
do, believe in and successful at then trying to learn
the 'lingo'...understand the market or work out the
demographics when you do what you represent.

There would be far too many people who don't
know what they're talking about, failed at trading
or 'heard it was a good market to enter in to" trying
to give advice that could cause literal financial ruin.

Trading is serious business, and selling products,
coaching, services, etc. about it is just as serious
because people have a tendency to listen to every
word and take it literally.

I understand the risk involved. It's real. So, I can
convey that same level of risk management and
patient behavior to people who want to trade but
need to learn how to excersize control of emotions
to succeed.

There would be to many people putting something
together to make a quick buck disregarding the
balances of peoples trade accounts because they
don't trade themselves and have no concept of it.

That's strange because that is not my experience
whatsoever...nor anyone else successful trading I
know. Some who make sums I couldn't mention
because it's too outside the realm of belief.

True, that's why I wouldn't advocate for it because
of the 'easy pray' syndrome.

Although the potential is legitamate, I'd rather total
beginners stay away from it until they do their own
due diligence in trading-based forums.

So that makes trading scammy because *you* lost
your $600 investment?

Taking personal responsibility and accountability
is the first step to success in any business.

Get educated, pratice, learn, fail, succeed, rinse and repeat...

...lol...that about sums up what happened for me. Some people
take off running under the right training, guidance and leadership.

Unfortunately, I wasn't one of those people. Just glad I didn't give
up and quit before I found success.

i don't think forex is a scam and i believe it requires learning with trail and error way in some virtual account

i'm still into forex brother, do you got any tips for trading with econmics daily news or indicuators?

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Juan Burton

8 years ago

We should probably contact the Administrators and ask them to create a section for "Trading" and have separate sections for each niche of trading, Binary Options, Stocks , Forex, Futures, Crypto Currency, etc

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Regional Warrior

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Juan Burton

We should probably contact the Administrators and ask them to create a section for "Trading" and have separate sections for each niche of trading, Binary Options, Stocks , Forex, Futures, Crypto Currency, etc

Never happen not on the WF been asked before and It is not a main stream MMO so the answer will no , also there are others before gambling money away

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Kay King

8 years ago

I have to wonder why some would be so determined to add this sort of "section" here...when there are tons of financial and investment and currency and forex forums out there.

Could it be due to the newbie status of many here who buy into the "easy money" and "anyone can profit" scenarios? Are the requests coming from those who would like to position as an "expert" to sell to people here?

I can't think of any other reason some are so insistent. This is not a forex or a financial markets forum. Never has been and I doubt ever will be.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I have to wonder why some would be so determined to add this sort of "section" here...when there are tons of financial and investment and currency and forex forums out there.

Could it be due to the newbie status of many here who buy into the "easy money" and "anyone can profit" scenarios? Are the requests coming from those who would like to position as an "expert" to sell to people here?

I can't think of any other reason some are so insistent. This is not a forex or a financial markets forum. Never has been and I doubt ever will be.

Yes Kay. I think it is a 'Setup' by a certain few to peddle their easy money Forex software systems to unsuspecting Newbies

Either via PM or right from their Sig

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Hamadoto

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I have to wonder why some would be so determined to add this sort of "section" here...when there are tons of financial and investment and currency and forex forums out there.

Could it be due to the newbie status of many here who buy into the "easy money" and "anyone can profit" scenarios? Are the requests coming from those who would like to position as an "expert" to sell to people here?

I can't think of any other reason some are so insistent. This is not a forex or a financial markets forum. Never has been and I doubt ever will be.

forex isn't totally about easy money, it requires trail and error and analysis as far as i know, and to answer your question , maybe because warrior forum is the largest marketing forum &market place, why not add "& forex trading" ?

and the fact that there is tons of investment forums out there, means there is no popular investing forum, every forum wont like exceed the 300K member, but here it will add a new type of members, the investors members, ofc WF will increase in popularity if the forum done correctly

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discrat 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

but here it will add a new type of members, the investors members, ofc WF will increase in popularity if the forum done correctly

To be honest I do not think the current Owners ( nor even the former Owners) want this at all !!
Increase in Popularity does NOT always equate to a "good thing" !!

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Sid Hale 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

warrior forum is the largest marketing forum &market place, why not add "& forex trading & fly fishing" ?

Fixed that for you.
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haggen

8 years ago

Are looking for a place to LEARN how to read charts, trade on exchange platforms etc in CRYPTO CURRENCY ?

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8 years ago

Sorry should have read... Are you looking for....

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Sid Hale

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamadoto

isn't this considerd to be one of the many ways to make money from internet?

Sure...

So are

bass fishing
trout fishing
golf instruction
water skiing
XXX videos
aftermarket motorcycle accessories
AdSense training
stereo systems (home and/or auto)
Bing advertising
ballet togs
condom sales
photography instruction
cameras
toys (children's or sex)
music
art
...and tens of thousands of others.

At best, those would be considered niche markets.

Not even Craigslist has separate sections for each of those... why should the WF?

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Juan Burton

8 years ago

According to the WF brand, "Trading" is too niche and doesn't fit the WF brand as this forum is more focus on broad categories for Internet business and Internet marketing in general. Every member is more than welcome to use the search box to research specific topics ...

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Gertsog

8 years ago

I would lile to raise one more question. Why isn't there any section about option trading? I am not speaking about binary options, but vanilla options on futures, which are traded on American Exchanges (CME, CBOT...).
Why I consider it should exist, because during the period between 2011 and 2014 it was easy to earn money selling options because of market volatility decreasing. Nowadays it can also be one of the working methods to earn money through Internet.

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Kay King

8 years ago

Because this is not an "investment" forum - it's an internet marketing forum.

If you want to talk about stock market and options, etc - there are forums for that.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Because this is not an "investment" forum - it's an internet marketing forum.

If you want to talk about stock market and options, etc - there are forums for that.

Actually Kay is right for 3 reasons....

1) Internet marketers might use it as another source for income. As when you are using the internet to make money, its always a good idea to have multiple streams of internet income. Say for example, membership sites, single product sites, seminar site, forex, commodites, Trading stocks. I think its a bit risky, as anything is when it comes to being online.

2) I think investment deserves a whole other topics, and people should go there to talk about it. Talking shop in here, basically is just to do with INTERNET MARKETING, even though the forum says warrior......ask anyone these days, and they can tell you who, or what the warrior forum is. In a way, we are not trading stocks, but we are trading something, TIME & information!, when you think about that, its kinda even better than trading forex.....because its risky. In here, you can gain knowledge, and I agree some of it is a bit crap, but 80% of the time, its solid hard core info that no one can ever take away from you, and can literally earn you Thousands of dollars online.

3) Investing is future. The actual fact that someone bought up this topic, is quite interesting to me. As I have been a stock broker before, and now retired from that. But I have noticed a trend that millennials and the younger generation are more interested in investing itself, and being able to look after their financial future, so maybe this is infact a niche that one could look at getting into in the coming years. Baby boomers who were burnt from the 2008 GFC crisis, need re-education, and are scared to put their money back in the market afraid they will just get their ass burnt a second time. All this is interesting, it seems, and there are huge opportunities here in this space for 2016 and beyond.

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Because this is not an "investment" forum - it's an internet marketing forum.

If you want to talk about stock market and options, etc - there are forums for that.

Kay, I don't really think the folks clamoring for a forex section want to talk about investing at all.

I think they want to talk about speculation, and sell robot trading widgets, get rich quick schemes and assorted tout sheets.

Look at the forex threads that manage to survive on the main forum. How many actually talk about "investing", and how many are just sig exposures for some trading robot?

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Juan Burton

8 years ago

I think an online investment fiance / trading section would be ok I guess.. but this forum is tailored and catered to "Internet" based services ... an idea we' would have to pitch to the board at Warrior Form / Freelancer

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Juan Burton

I think an online investment fiance / trading section would be ok I guess.. but this forum is tailored and catered to "Internet" based services ... an idea we' would have to pitch to the board at Warrior Form / Freelancer

"Fiance trading"?

Kinky...

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Juan Burton 8 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

"Fiance trading"?

Kinky...

Oh .. didn't catch that LMAO
A lot of my mind last night

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cyclestrading

8 years ago

Hi,
I have a new product in the forex and trading business, I'm looking for an experienced marketer and for affiliates.
Where should I post on warrior ?

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

Originally Posted by cyclestrading

Hi,
I have a new product in the forex and trading business, I'm looking for an experienced marketer and for affiliates.
Where should I post on warrior ?

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For an experienced marketer, try Warrior Classifieds and maybe Warriors Want to Hire You.

For affiliates, add the JV section.

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dansilvestre

8 years ago

Quoting Steve here:

Originally Posted by Steve B

Forex and the stock market are simply the subjects of broad marketplaces. . . just like dating, exercise, health, travel, and weight loss.

This forum is about Internet marketing - making money online irregardless of the niche and marketplace.

That being said there are a lot of forums in Forex/Stock Trading, I'm sure you can find them in no time