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So Warriors what do think of having a down vote button after all there is an up vote only stands to reason we should have the other !

Jason
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  • I am all for it

    al
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    Respectfully, I'm against it.

    Too much room for abuse, IMO, and I think the Upvote system is all we need at this time.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • You can get the same amount of abuse with the upvote system. What is the purpose of the vote if you do not have a choice. If you have an upvote option then you need an downvote option

      al
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  • Makes logical sense to me. Enough down votes could trip a review for deletion by the mods. A quick down vote might increase the amount of participants willing to help mod. Not everyone is as willing as Don to spend all their free time reporting posts in violation of the rules. A simpler process might engage more participation.
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  • I'm not really for either of them but if you have an "upvote" seems to make sense to provide a "downvote" as well. One can be gamed just as easily as another.

    You know going in that some will automatically upvote those they like -and a few will downvote those members they don't like. It's what happens after that small group is done that would make a difference.

    Might work better in the long run than the "member mod" function which seems to be ignored recently and is used by only a few people.

    More members might be willing to give their "opinion" of a thread's quality if they could do so quickly and anonymously. The more people who truly participate in the forum - the better the WF will be.
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      I don't care why you posted, but nobody is going to add a down vote button so peeps like the OP can run around the forum slamming all of the article posters etc.

      It just ain't gonna happen and I have no idea who banned him.

      #sparta

      -don
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  • If all there is now is an upvote button, then there is no counterbalance to it. Silence, in this case, makes it look like a 5-star thread is deserving of it.

    Downvoting seems like a reasonable counterbalance option, IMHO.
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      Silence means the thread does not get upvoted...simple stuff. Too many disgruntled members here will abuse the system by attacking all of their perceived enemies with downvotes.

      That said, I do see the sparta negativity squad has arrived for almost a full muster on this thread. Impressive.

      #sparta

      -don
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  • I don't really think that an upvote system is necessary. Isn't that kind of what the 'Thanks' function is already for?

    Maybe make the 'Thanks' on the original thread post somehow translate into an upvote sort of thing, but I don't think we need both.

    If you are going to add up/down/sideways votes, then I would suggest having it replace the 'thanks' function.

    I know another marketing forum that added both. They have a 'thanks' button and a thumbs up / thumbs down system. So when do you use one and not the other? When do you use both? It is just kind of confusing to the membership in my opinion.
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      No, the thanks button does not bump threads to the top of the feed. The upvoted threads are selectable by time period. A really cool feature, I think.



      Not a good idea IMO, it adds even more room for abuse.
      The two features have completely different functions. Personally, I don't care if WF eliminated the thanks button and hid everyone's thanks counts from public view. It's being abused by so many members now that it's become a lot less valuable then it ever was, almost useless IMO.


      Cheers

      -don
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  • So again, can someone explain to me why a forum would need a thanks feature and an up vote feature. Why not just one or the other and have that one do the work of both features?

    I'm not trying to be argumentative. I had this same discussion on another marketing forum that has both. Why would I "thank" someone versus giving them an "up vote"? I never really got a real answer there. I think it just gets confusing to the membership.

    And I'm with Don. I could care less if the Thanks all disappeared tomorrow.

    If an up/down vote system is going to be used it needs to be in the main forum layout too. Not just the feed. I don't know of anyone who likes or uses the feed unless they can't figure out how to get back to the traditional forum view.
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    • Never messed with upvotes but thought those were for threads and thanks were for posts. I can like a thread without caring for the OP. down votes run into the same problem social sites have struggled with adding dislikes. down votes and dislikes tend toward being more abused - people will down vote or dislike for all kinds of personal reasons.

      All of this discussion is dependent on if this is even a real discussion or as the screen shot don showed just a crank thread for jollies at another wannabe competing forum. Since I presume the screenshot was from your site Mike you might wish to confirm or deny that the post in question screened shot is whats driving this thread.
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      The upvote button increases best thread visibilty, the thanks button does not. More best thread visibility, more traffic to the good threads.

      Mike and I have pretty much covered the rest, I would think. If not, it's pretty easy to figure out for smart marketers that know lots about drawing traffic and running forums.

      Bravo, we finally agree again.

      BTW, did you close your OT, or did you just block me from seeing it? What up man, I racked up like 6 likes in 0 posts over there.

      Clue me in on what's up.

      Cheers

      -don
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  • This is actually a valid concern/request. Put your personal affairs aside and discuss it like grown ups.

    For me personally I don't agree with having a down vote button, mainly because it encourages negativity. Ideally we want to encourage the opposite, to give props to someone who is doing a good job/posting good content.

    That being said, I do understand that "Silence (...) makes it look like a 5-star thread is deserving of it" as a argument. However, there is a reason why Facebook doesn't have a down vote button: negativity.
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      Sometimes reality is referred to as negativity especially on this forum.

      Let's just bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything posted here is gospel.
      God forbid anyone that has an opinion that doesn't conform to the herd.
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    • Dan this started out as legit idea only that It was hijacked by Dung for his own agenda and anyone else who did not agree with his Idealism was wrong

      I was under the impression that the up vote was going to be on the main board and with all the crap on there of late I thought the down vote would even it out

      Also some of the comments made at some of the warriors in this thread should be looked at and dealt with

      So just to clear up any idiots idea that this was to stir the pot it was not , but the bit about asking other warriors to come here for support is as so this was not railroaded by one person agenda for an area that will not be around in a few weeks!!

      Jason
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    • Dan,

      That is a legitimate concern, but so is someone abusing the upvote system by getting together a group of buddies to vote something up giving it more exposure. I could even see that being a gig offered on Fiverr.

      It is actually in a way more scary than the current thanks system. In my opinion, 'thanks' have zero value on the worth of a post that someone makes, but to a lot of people it does. However, it has no impact on the actual visibility of anything the member posts. The upvote system does.

      I have to believe that the trolls and the abusive members who would try to exploit it are the vast minority in this community and that the overall membership would outweigh a small group of people trying hard to downvote something.

      Perhaps to compromise a little bit, if something has negative downvotes, that would not be displayed publicly and there would be no public notifications of how anyone voted.

      Your concern is very valid though. I could see some members not only downvoting something that a new member posted, but then publicly stating that they downvoted it and belittling the new member. That could be a real turnoff to new members. Heck, it could be a real turn off to old members.
    • Dan,
      I see your point on the encouraging negativity. FB has added a feature that you're allowed to "react" now. Via an emoji.

      The down vote button, being an option, might encourage people to no post crap and encourage more experienced people to chime in and direct questions and answers the right way?

      Your articles (good God, not the thread), that are being posted can and should, turn out to be a good thing. Having the down vote option, would that not encourage some to post more quality? Legitimate question.

      It's kind of a pot to stir! As mentioned, everything can be gamed, I get that, and I really do understand your reluctance to applying more negativity! However, upvoting something of no value is just that, no value. It's confusing to your new members, the legitimate ones needing some help.

      ~ Theresa
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  • sounds good, I'm in
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  • OP stands for... OT stands for.. Thx. N
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    • OP = Original Post/Original Poster/First post(er) in the thread

      OT = Off Topic/Off Topic Forum
  • I don't care what they do as long as they make it possible to access the forum via mobile. This current feed BS makes the forum nearly worthless and unusable. I'll give it another week then I guess I'll have to find somewhere else to go or have more time to myself.
  • Should have closed this, my bad.

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