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I just went to the WSO forum looking to post a WSO. I clicked "Create A WSO." And there I was in some very unfamiliar territory. Why has everything here become so hard? I can no longer easily find threads I've posted in. There is no longer a page listing all the active ads where people have purchased banners. And now there's no way to start a WSO.

I'm not interested in adding files or using affiliates. I simply want to post an offer. I guess there's some secret link floating around that allows you to post an old fashioned WSO but I don't have the time to try and hunt it down.

My suggestion is to allow users a choice between the old way of posting a WSO and the new way, which I don't understand. My suggestion is to allow users to easily see posts where's they've participated. My suggestion is to return to having a page where one can see all the present banner ads.

If Freelancer is looking to increase revenues they are sure going about it in a strange way by making it difficult participate in the forum and in our ability to buy advertising space.
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    I think this is the secret link you are looking for: http://www.warriorforum.com/newthrea...newthread&f=17

    ETA: link fixed
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    There is no longer a page listing all the active ads where people have purchased banners.
    They did put the link back to the active banners...

    https://payments.warriorforum.com/li...rs/warrior_top

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    I just went to the WSO forum looking to post a WSO. I clicked "Create A WSO." And there I was in some very unfamiliar territory.
    Everything new is unfamiliar at first. Give it a try. Submit the form and you'd see that the second screen is just a box to write your post. You just have to choose some options first now. You don't have to actually post a WSO to see how it works.

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    I can no longer easily find threads I've posted in.
    "Subscribed Threads" is the list of threads you've posted to (unless you changed your options to not automatically subscribe). It's found under "User CP" and "Quick Links" at the top menu. That's what it's been called and where it's been located since 2001 or so, here and on every other vBulletin forum.

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    I'm not interested in adding files or using affiliates. I simply want to post an offer. I guess there's some secret link floating around that allows you to post an old fashioned WSO but I don't have the time to try and hunt it down.
    You don't need a secret link, just click the big red button and fill out the half-page form.

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    My suggestion is to allow users a choice between the old way of posting a WSO and the new way, which I don't understand.
    They should not maintain two separate systems to achieve the same goal. It's confusing and unnecessary.

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    My suggestion is to allow users to easily see posts where's they've participated.
    They do.

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    My suggestion is to return to having a page where one can see all the present banner ads.
    The link to see all the present banner ads is called "View All" and is directly under the banner. That's where it's always been, hasn't it?

    Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

    If Freelancer is looking to increase revenues they are sure going about it in a strange way by making it difficult participate in the forum and in our ability to buy advertising space.
    They've made everything easier to do and faster. Everything's automatic, like buying things on any other store on the internet. You just find the big red buy/post button, choose options, pay if necessary, and you're done.

    The old way required arcane knowledge of this particular forum software, identifying and locating several sets of separate instructions for how to post a WSO or buy an ad, what the requirements are, and how to pay for it. You then had to make posts or upload banners, wait for mystery moderators to approve them, and sit at the computer for hours waiting for a PM'd link to pay before your slot disappeared because someone else bought it before you.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      Everything new is unfamiliar at first. Give it a try. Submit the form and you'd see that the second screen is just a box to write your post. You just have to choose some options first now. You don't have to actually post a WSO to see how it works.



      "Subscribed Threads" is the list of threads you've posted to (unless you changed your options to not automatically subscribe). It's found under "User CP" and "Quick Links" at the top menu. That's what it's been called and where it's been located since 2001 or so, here and on every other vBulletin forum.



      You don't need a secret link, just click the big red button and fill out the half-page form.



      They should not maintain two separate systems to achieve the same goal. It's confusing and unnecessary.



      They do.



      The link to see all the present banner ads is called "View All" and is directly under the banner. That's where it's always been, hasn't it?



      They've made everything easier to do and faster. Everything's automatic, like buying things on any other store on the internet. You just find the big red buy/post button, choose options, pay if necessary, and you're done.

      The old way required arcane knowledge of this particular forum software, identifying and locating several sets of separate instructions for how to post a WSO or buy an ad, what the requirements are, and how to pay for it. You then had to make posts or upload banners, wait for mystery moderators to approve them, and sit at the computer for hours waiting for a PM'd link to pay before your slot disappeared because someone else bought it before you.
      Yeah, the new streamlined system is brilliant. That's why there are a half dozen or more posts on the main forum every week asking how to post a WSO. Maybe the new way is better. So why don't they post a few simple lines of instruction? I can guarantee the confusion with the unfamiliar interface is costing them sales.

      As for subscribing to a thread, are you serious? I know how to subscribe, thanks. I don't need or want an email every time someone posts to a thread I've participated in. The old icons worked just fine as all I had to do is glance at any forum and could tell where I'd posted.

      The "View All" banners link was down for quite a while. I simply assumed it still was.

      I'm not adverse to change. Chaotic change simply for the sake of change is another matter.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        Yeah, the new streamlined system is brilliant. That's why there are a half dozen or more posts on the main forum every week asking how to post a WSO. Maybe the new way is better. So why don't they post a few simple lines of instruction? I can guarantee the confusion with the unfamiliar interface is costing them sales.
        What this has essentially done, is divide the WF into two WSO marketplaces, at least for now. The old one still gets all the traffic and from what I've seen on the new "marketplace," the only listings who make any significant sales are the WSOs of the day.

        Just go here and look
        https://payments.warriorforum.com/marketplace
        Just scroll down the page after page and see the many many zeros and very low numbers of sales. The WSOs of the day jump right off the page at you because they have hundreds of sales, but are few and far between.

        They released it way too early. It doesn't have half of the features that other platforms do and they want to attempt to force people to use it. Bad idea in my opinion, but what do I know?
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        • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          What this has essentially done, is divide the WF into two WSO marketplaces, at least for now. The old one still gets all the traffic and from what I've seen on the new "marketplace," the only listings who make any significant sales are the WSOs of the day.

          Just go here and look
          https://payments.warriorforum.com/marketplace
          Just scroll down the page after page and see the many many zeros and very low numbers of sales. The WSOs of the day jump right off the page at you because they have hundreds of sales, but are few and far between.

          They released it way too early. It doesn't have half of the features that other platforms do and they want to attempt to force people to use it. Bad idea in my opinion, but what do I know?
          I think it goes well beyond releasing it too soon. Why do you suppose Allen never installed an affiliate platform? Because he didn't have to. When affiliate mania took over Warrior Forum he simply doubled the price of participation.

          That way he didn't have to fuss with all the customer service baloney, programming, tracking and all the rest. I don't have access to his stats but I'd bet just the $20 increase made him more profitable than any affiliate platform would have without the headaches.

          IMO, Freelancer would have done well to simply bump the price of a WSO to $50 and never have to bother with affiliates. Instead the core WSO people, the ones that spent thousands here are leaving. They're being replaced by new marketers that come here wondering what they might to to create a WSO. And when they do create one, they're looking at numbers like the ones you posted.

          Me, I just like to run an offer every once in a while but I certainly don't need to. So it goes...
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    http://www.warriorforum.com/newthrea...newthread&f=17

    It's secret because they want to force people to use Warrior Payments, whether they want to or not. Simple as that. But this still works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Originally Posted by travlinguy

    As for subscribing to a thread, are you serious? I know how to subscribe, thanks. I don't need or want an email every time someone posts to a thread I've participated in.
    Oh, neither do I. The forum doesn't require you get any e-mails or manually subscribe to threads.



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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      Oh, neither do I. The forum doesn't require you get any e-mails or manually subscribe to threads.



      Yeah, that's SOOOO much simpler than the way it was.
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