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Unread 24th Feb 2017, 08:37 AM   #1
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[RANT] Are you tired of getting ripped off.....I am. Free Report is a must read.
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Like many others here and around the web, I just can't believe all the worthless products and services promising everything from earning thousands of dollars a day, to ranking your site on the first page of the big G.

Even on this forum, I rarely see a member provide proof of concept when they purchase or review a product or service. Most of time it's something like this "John's technique has great merit, I think he's onto something here. I'll give it a try". Then you hear nothing back. Sound familiar? I also feel sorry for the members here that post a question asking for proof of earnings. You know, one member asking another if something actually lives up to it's info graphic pitch.

My last purchase was a $7 product from jvzoo the other day, and the upsells were ridiculous. I think it would have cost me hundreds of dollars for all the upsells. Of course I always pass up all upsells. That's how they take your money.

Anyway........I spent the last 2 years promoting affiliate products using every kind of online marketing I could think of. Some from here and most not from here. My results were horrible. I spent a lot of money. I am still married.....lol.

It cost me $2,212 for this case study! Don't do what I did.

I tried promoting many different products with a nice mix of advertising. I started getting so frustrated with not earning anything, I started a spread sheet. My results are after I started keeping track, so before that I lost even more money.

So here it is, my free report on how we are getting ripped off by shady online marketing services and that nasty bot traffic. There's no email required, no upsells or OTO. Just a 100% free report with an affiliate link. Because I did find one way to promote that is actually earning money, and yes, there is proof.



Anyone else, feel free to post your online marketing nightmares. Tell us how much money you have wasted on promoting affiliate products or services. We need to here your stories so we don't make the same mistakes.

Bill

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Hi dollar_bill, I feel your pain. I also spent alot of time and money on broken promises with no results. To be honest, I just recently was able to break through and finally start earning a small income.

Hey, I want to inform too that your CTA button isn't working. I tried to send a PM but as you might already know .. I can't send PM's without 15 posts first
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Hi Steven, thanks for the heads up on the CTA. Thought I had that taken care of.

So what was your worst purchase as far as online advertising?

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Hi dollar_bill, I remember buying a Facebook Ads guide at one point in time which ended up being a compiled source of information from free resources. It wasn't that big of a deal because if I remember correctly it wasn't expensive.

The problem is that everything you need to know about online advertising is available to everyone for free so its not necessary to buy that information. However, a working affiliate campaign with all the specific information included such as keywords and bidding, ad templates etc. is worth purchasing. Now all you have to do is essentially put it all together.

The same goes for SEO. You can learn SEO from the WarriorForum and also other great resources online for free. However, a working process that has been developed over time for particular keyword terms in specific niches that have been proven to give results over and over again is worth purchasing. As with the campaign example above, now all you really have to do is essentially put it all together.

I haven't spent as much as you have on bogus material (no insult intended). But I did commit to a $70,000 Internet Marketing Degree which isn't bogus of course.
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Good ol facebook ads. I never purchased a guide, I just jumped in on my own and tried them out several times with no luck. I believe facebook advertising is not the place for money making offers. More for real products and services. But that didn't stop me for trying it over and over again and losing a lot of money....lol.

SEO consumed my spare time for 3 years. I was bound and determined to get sites on the first page. I tried everything from guides to seo services. Big money spent on this. I still have some sites on page 2 and 3, but that doesn't bring in too many sales.

Wow, an Internet Marketing Degree. That's the way to go. I wish you great success.

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I just did my first test with an autoresponder that was loaded with 500 leads per day. You would think I could land 1 sale out of 15,000 for the month. Wow what worthless leads. Another $80 down the drain.

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Has anyone tried Trafficforme.com? They claim to sell only 'bot-free' traffic. Can anyone confirm this?

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Just purchased 50K leads and loaded them into my autoresponder. see what happens.

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What's the average open rate for an auto responder email? Anyone have experience with this?

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Great advice. If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Great advice. If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Thanks for sharing your experience. Unfortunately, we all need to be reminded that this can happen.
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Hi! I downloaded your free report about Simple Cash Daily. It sounds very good!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you please share with us Warriors more details about how you are doing this program?

Are you using solo ads?

Are you using postcards?

Do you need to talk with your prospects and members on the phone?

Do you even need to keep in touch with your prospects and members?

What is your conversion rate, e.g. out of 1000 postcards mailed or 1000 clicks of solo ads, what percentage actually join and take action?

Approximately what is the minimum investment required for this program for marketing with postcards?

Thank you for your sharing about this!
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Thanks for the questions.

Are you using solo ads?
Never use solo ads most are scams now.


Are you using postcards?
Postcards Only! It's the last thing that still works.

Do you need to talk with your prospects and members on the phone?
Nope.


Do you even need to keep in touch with your prospects and members?
Nope.


What is your conversion rate, e.g. out of 1000 postcards mailed or 1000 clicks of solo ads, what percentage actually join and take action?
If you read my report or watch the video on the sales page, you'll learn never to buy online ads. The last mailing list that was tested returned a 2% roi. So out of 1,ooo postcards that would equal $1,800 in Steel Memberships sign ups. That's about a $1,000 profit. Even if you don't profit, admin will mail more cards until you do, that's the guarantee. I do this every month and rinse and repeat. These are monthly memberships, so my monthly earnings are always increasing.


Approximately what is the minimum investment required for this program for marketing with postcards?
Admin just added more levels of memberships. If you were to join at the Steel level, that's $100 sign up and then just $20 per month. You earn 90% commissions. Minimum postcard mailing is $395 for 500. These are mailed out for you.

Admin is always testing lists and looking for the highest roi.

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