Warrior Forum Going Back To Paid Status

Doug

14 years ago

Thank you Allen!

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Rod Cortez 14 years ago

Amen brother!
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pchi 13 years ago

thank you Allen
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S.L.F. 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Doug

Thank you Allen!

This is my first thread. I am trying to learn about online publishing. Not sure who the major players are, and if these companies are rated.

Thank you
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Chris W. Sutton

14 years ago

Best news I've heard in a long time! It was getting so a person couldn't even take a leak around here without hitting somebody else!

Thanks Allen!

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kahndoit 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton

Best news I've heard in a long time! It was getting so a person couldn't even take a leak around here without hitting somebody else!

Thanks Allen!

Hey Chris,

Sounds like you need to get your eyesight tested
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nvs74191 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton

Best news I've heard in a long time! It was getting so a person couldn't even take a leak around here without hitting somebody else!

Thanks Allen!

My sentiments, exactly. A big thanks to Allen>
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Nicholas William

14 years ago

at last! A decisive kick in the butt to get me into the war room

I've been procrastinating on this for months now so looks like it's time to pay up

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sony_isser 13 years ago

Thank you Allan! Kick the spammers out of OUR WARRIOR FORM.
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Richard Tunnah

14 years ago

Agreed Allen...got a bit daft recently. Appears more and more spammers are telling more spammers to post one liners here!

Rich

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DennisM

14 years ago

Hi Allen,

Great news! Yeah, it was getting pretty out of hand here. Thank you for cleaning house!

Dennis

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barry dixon 13 years ago

hi there,i was wondering,I just paid for full membership and it wont let me in,can you help please
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Bubba6590 13 years ago

Thank you, I would be more than happy to pay a fee because i have seen and actually wasted some of my valuable time researching these so called claims of success.
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Jason_V

14 years ago

I understand why you did this. However, I can't help but feel sorry for the people who would be new and would give quality contributions to get their post count up and then run a quality WSO.

I know that if they have something of worth to sell, the $37 + the $20 WSO fee would be made back. However, for some people, that extra $37 up front is a huge hurdle. It's a shame when the minority have to ruin it for the majority.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason_V

I understand why you did this. However, I can't help but feel sorry for the people who would be new and would give quality contributions to get their post count up and then run a quality WSO.

I know that if they have something of worth to sell, the $37 + the $20 WSO fee would be made back. However, for some people, that extra $37 up front is a huge hurdle. It's a shame when the minority have to ruin it for the majority.

Please understand that I don't think this is up for debate.

That being said, I think it's a good thing for EVERYBODY. First, they still have some access to the awesome information here. If they are not able to put enough of that into action, then it's a good lesson.

Second, they're never going to make their $100s or $1000s or whatever if they can't even come up with $37.

What I'm getting at is maybe they will treat IM like a business if they have to pay about as much as it costs to subscribe to their favorite magazine (or a month of cable, or a bunch of other examples one could mention).

All in all, it's an incredibly positive development on ALL sides of the fence.

All the best,
Michael

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Administrator 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason_V

I understand why you did this. However, I can't help but feel sorry for the people who would be new and would give quality contributions to get their post count up and then run a quality WSO.

I know that if they have something of worth to sell, the $37 + the $20 WSO fee would be made back. However, for some people, that extra $37 up front is a huge hurdle. It's a shame when the minority have to ruin it for the majority.

Jason,

Anyone who knows me from years back know I've always been the same way. However, things change. If what is going on now is allowed to continue this forum will be another DP in less than 6 months.

The way I've done it I've made sure that those needing a hand up can still get it. They can still browse the forum freely without paying a dime for anything.

Allen

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Allen, even though I am a War Room Member, I was made one in the early
days for whatever reason (can't remember because the Alzheimer's or
whatever the hell I have wrong with my memory is setting in) and didn't
have to pay.

I'd like to now make a contribution and become a true paid member. If I go
to the upgrade link (being that I am a War Room Member already) will that
screw things up?

I don't want to break the system.

If it will make it easier to just send the $37 to your PayPal account, I
can do that as well. I have enough WSO receipts to be able to find where
to send it to.

Let me know how to handle this.

And thank you for the best forum on the Internet hands down.

I appreciate it more than you will ever know.

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Brad Spencer 14 years ago

Thank God...

An investment in business truly keeps you involved in it. It's weird that people who want to be "internet marketers" would ever balk at buying something. Seems that if you buy other people's stuff and it helps build your business then it's an excellent investment.

A free membership to this forum is an excellent investment in time but with these economic times (I hate that phrase b/c it's so overdone in the media) people are getting on here and not wanting to ever spend money.

If you aren't willing to spend money on this forum...then forget about ever building a true business.

You really have to spend money to make money...at least to get to major levels.

It's not much but this 37$ upgrade is nothing compared to the value you get. Instant 1000% ROI in my opinion.

Thanks for weeding out the tire kickers and freebie seekers Allen.

Cheers,

Brad
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Willie Crawford 14 years ago

Steve,

You could just Paypal the money to me and I could just hand the money
to Allen the next time that I see him :-)

Wait... I've never seen Allen.

Maybe your idea is better.

Great idea Allen.

Willie
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JayPeete

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Allen, even though I am a War Room Member, I was made one in the early
days for whatever reason (can't remember because the Alzheimer's or
whatever the hell I have wrong with my memory is setting in) and didn't
have to pay.

I'd like to now make a contribution and become a true paid member. If I go
to the upgrade link (being that I am a War Room Member already) will that
screw things up?

I don't want to break the system.

If it will make it easier to just send the $37 to your PayPal account, I
can do that as well. I have enough WSO receipts to be able to find where
to send it to.

Let me know how to handle this.

And thank you for the best forum on the Internet hands down.

I appreciate it more than you will ever know.

Now that's what I call a quality Warrior Forum member! I'll definitely be looking out for your posts Steven.

Thanks and keep doing what you're doing.

Jay

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

Jason,

Anyone who knows me from years back know I've always been the same way. However, things change. If what is going on now is allowed to continue this forum will be another DP in less than 6 months.

The way I've done it I've made sure that those needing a hand up can still get it. They can still browse the forum freely without paying a dime for anything.

Allen

As one of the most frequent WSO posters (I've sent Allen around $1,500 in WSO fees over the last year), all I can say is THANK YOU!!

This is a HUGE step in the right direction. The WarriorForum is all about high quality information. We don't want it to become the next DP.

I'll be joining as a full member!

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DonTino

14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

Jason,

Anyone who knows me from years back know I've always been the same way. However, things change. If what is going on now is allowed to continue this forum will be another DP in less than 6 months.

The way I've done it I've made sure that those needing a hand up can still get it. They can still browse the forum freely without paying a dime for anything.

Allen

I agree with Allen on this one. The best forum is made up of people that are serious about IM.

Tino

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cemrz 13 years ago

I am grateful for this forum and for whatever I can grasp from it.
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TheSaddleman 13 years ago

Thanks Allen, That is exactly what needed to be said, you are still GIVING new members "FREE" access until they are ready and able to purchase a membership. I am one of those New Members, I joined today and can not afford to pay today but when I make my first sale I plan on paying for my Membership out of the Profit. I just hope I can get enough information, from the forum and its members, to help get that first sale. Thanks again Allen for your dedication to your Forum and its Members, The Saddleman,
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Kevin Riley

14 years ago

EDIT: This in reply to Jason V (Weird, no quotes this time)

I can't only partially agree with this. Yes, $37 may be a hurdle for some. However, this is business. If a Warrior can't invest $37 in their business, they would be well advised to start writing resumes.

Building a business calls for commitment - commitment of your time and money. If a Warrior does not have $37, I would highly recommend they cancel their cable TV, give up a dinner out, forego a night at the movie theater, say no to ordering in pizza, stop smoking, take the bicycle instead of the car, do whatever it takes to save some money to invest in your business. If you can't make that kind of sacrifice, you are not a true Warrior.

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SolarFelineAU 14 years ago

Well, I've just paid my AUD$45.05. I think this means I'm serious about this IM thing.
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Travis Van Slooten

14 years ago

Amen Kevin! Personally, if this were my forum, I'd charge MONTHLY for access to ANY of the forum. I've belonged to many private forums over the past few years (some paying as much as $97/month) and continue to belong to paid private forums today.

I still can't understand why anyone who has a heartbeat can gain access to this forum and get tons of incredibly useful information - for free. If I were Allen, I would charge $5/month or even $25/year to gain access to the forum at all - never mind being able to post WSO's.

At any rate, this change is a step in the right direction!

Travis

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

EDIT: This in reply to Jason V (Weird, no quotes this time)

I can't only partially agree with this. Yes, $37 may be a hurdle for some. However, this is business. If a Warrior can't invest $37 in their business, they would be well advised to start writing resumes.

Building a business calls for commitment - commitment of your time and money. If a Warrior does not have $37, I would highly recommend they cancel their cable TV, give up a dinner out, forego a night at the movie theater, say no to ordering in pizza, stop smoking, take the bicycle instead of the car, do whatever it takes to save some money to invest in your business. If you can't make that kind of sacrifice, you are not a true Warrior.

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Star Riley 14 years ago

Building a business calls for commitment - commitment of your time and money. If a Warrior does not have $37, I would highly recommend they cancel their cable TV, give up a dinner out, fore go a night at the movie theater, say no to ordering in pizza, stop smoking, take the bicycle instead of the car, do whatever it takes to save some money to invest in your business. If you can't make that kind of sacrifice, you are not a true Warrior.[/QUOTE]

That's all well and good since we are both living the Life of Riley I just had to go and put my two shillins in:

Most people aren't Warriors and some people need help since Allen Says hasn't closed the Forum off to folks in need. A person who is currently in a financial crunch could still easily learn a few things freely on WF (I know I did) that can change their position if they are ready.

Until a person has real value I'm not sure they should post anyways I would be embarrassed as "heck" to post crap on this forum as A real Warrior will quickly call your raggedy "ask" out!

I do feel it is still important for people who just don't know what they don't know to be able to access the value of the forum just not be allowed to corrupt it with poop.

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evodio

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

However, this is business. If a Warrior can't invest $37 in their business, they would be well advised to start writing resumes.

Building a business calls for commitment - commitment of your time and money. If a Warrior does not have $37, I would highly recommend they cancel their cable TV, give up a dinner out, forego a night at the movie theater, say no to ordering in pizza, stop smoking, take the bicycle instead of the car, do whatever it takes to save some money to invest in your business. If you can't make that kind of sacrifice, you are not a true Warrior.

LMFAO!! ))) Well said.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

EDIT: This in reply to Jason V (Weird, no quotes this time)

I can't only partially agree with this. Yes, $37 may be a hurdle for some. However, this is business. If a Warrior can't invest $37 in their business, they would be well advised to start writing resumes.

Building a business calls for commitment - commitment of your time and money. If a Warrior does not have $37, I would highly recommend they cancel their cable TV, give up a dinner out, forego a night at the movie theater, say no to ordering in pizza, stop smoking, take the bicycle instead of the car, do whatever it takes to save some money to invest in your business. If you can't make that kind of sacrifice, you are not a true Warrior.

I think the 37 bucks one time fee in this forum is well worth it than what I was paying for a crappy blog coaching program out there that did not even make me a dime for 3 months of being a member. I have been a free Warrior member in less than 2 months and the information and WSO's are real value for a buck. I will be joining very soon.

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Brad Callen 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason_V

However, for some people, that extra $37 up front is a huge hurdle. It's a shame when the minority have to ruin it for the majority.

If someone wants to start a business and $37 is too much for them, then they're not cut out for this.

Brad
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Judge Groovyman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason_V

However, for some people, that extra $37 up front is a huge hurdle. It's a shame when the minority have to ruin it for the majority.

It is a shame when that happens. Hopefully in this case, the people who can't afford the $37 up front are a minority as well.
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experiencedwriter 13 years ago

Yes I myself am new here and will have to pay the fees when I make some money. I would like it to be paid to keep out the ones just using the site for their own personal gain. I agree. ezinemaster
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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

You ever feel so happy you just want to sing and dance?

Thanks, Allen.

All the best,
Michael

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BacklinkBadass 13 years ago

EVER FEEL HAPPY, you just want to sing and dance?

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Jason_V

14 years ago

Pete,

I think you may be misunderstanding. You can still be a free member. You just can't post a blog, run a WSO, or have a lot of stored PM's.

Originally Posted by Pete Egeler

All the best with your new forum.

I paid to join in the first place. Won't do it again.

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Blase

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason_V

Pete,

I think you may be misunderstanding. You can still be a free member. You just can't post a blog, run a WSO, or have a lot of stored PM's.

Jason, I think you misunderstand. I know exactly what Pete is saying.

He and I paid $49.95 to join the Warrior forum as LIFETIME
members years ago.

We had all of the privileges that are being sold again for
$37.00.

I can't put words in Pete's mouth, but I think he's saying.

We already paid for this once.

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Administrator 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Blase

Jason, I think you misunderstand. I know exactly what Pete is saying.

He and I paid $49.95 to join the Warrior forum as LIFETIME
members years ago.

We had all of the privileges that are being sold again for
$37.00.

I can't put words in Pete's mouth, but I think he's saying.

We already paid for this once.

Hi Blase,

That's not actually true. The Warrior Forum is still here and you can access it freely. What you bought originally was access to the Warrior Private Site, which still exists.

No one bought the right to post WSO's or blogs or social groups...

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Blase

14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

Hi Blase,

That's not actually true. The Warrior Forum is still here and you can access it freely. What you bought originally was access to the Warrior Private Site, which still exists.

No one bought the right to post WSO's or blogs or social groups...

Obviously, I am not going to argue with you.
My wife tells me I can't remember yesterday.

I could have swore we had free WSO's back then.
I know we didn't have blogs or social groups. I don't think
we knew about them then.

Where is the "Private Site"?
And here all these years I thought this was it.

I do have one more question, why is $37.00 going to
stop all of the spammers? If I were a spammer I'd pay that
to be here.

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Originally Posted by Blase

Obviously, I am not going to argue with you.
My wife tells me I can't remember yesterday.

I could have swore we had free WSO's back then.
I know we didn't have blogs or social groups. I don't think
we knew about them then.

Where is the "Private Site"?
And here all these years I thought this was it.

I do have one more question, why is $37.00 going to
stop all of the spammers? If I were a spammer I'd pay that
to be here.

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Blase

I sent you a PM with access details for the old private site..

The $37 will not stop all our problems, that's not going to happen. What it will do is vastly reduce a certain type of person I don't want here. I'd really rather not go into fine details on that in public but there is no doubt that a major source of our troubles will be reduced and will help keep this forum at a level that's at least readable.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Blase

Obviously, I am not going to argue with you.
My wife tells me I can't remember yesterday.

I could have swore we had free WSO's back then.
I know we didn't have blogs or social groups. I don't think
we knew about them then.

Where is the "Private Site"?
And here all these years I thought this was it.

I do have one more question, why is $37.00 going to
stop all of the spammers? If I were a spammer I'd pay that
to be here.

Thanks,
Blase

Yeah, we DID have free WSOs! That changed only a few years back. I think Allen means that the warrior forum was a premium, and WSOs weren't an advertised feature, etc... In fact, ORIGINALLY, there was no special place for them. BUT, a few years ago, he changed the rules and abilities, so wsos can't be easily offered, etc... So I think technically he's right.

As for the private site, I think he is talking about what I think used to be called warrior pro. It has a lot of documents, etc... It is a pity I never worked as hard as I should have, etc... SOME claimed they made THOUSANDS just selling what was there, since 80%+ had resell rights or was public domain. I don't remember the URL myself off hand. I keep meaning to check it out. ANYWAY, in the center of that was a link to the warrior forum.

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sgboston23

14 years ago

When I have an offer, I'll join. In the mean time I will continue to lurk for the most part. Anything you can do to reduce spam is A-OK with me.

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Zeus66

14 years ago

Excellent decision, Allen!

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Budwar385 13 years ago

I don't understand why people question Allen's reason for switching the forum to paid membership to me it is quite obvious the guy knows what he's doing no one is a successful internet marketer for 13 years without knowing their stuff thank you Allen for enabling aspiring marketers to have this resource you truly are a pay it forward type business man and I'm sure it comes back to you ten fold for your efforts.
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14 years ago

Great move Allen ... thanks for caring for the forum.

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14 years ago

Glad to see it. The warrior forum has been quality for years, let's keep it that way.

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Kezz

14 years ago

Sounds like a great move to me. Everyone will benefit in the long run, and the short run for that matter.

I'm all for it.

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feelalive 13 years ago

Is a good idea to get users to subscribe. In this way not everyone will can post all kind of entries.
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leesr

14 years ago

What about current WSO's run by non-War Room members?
I hope those are allowed to run their course.
I've bought some, and have to continue to pm the sellers-- because they're trying to get them to work on my hosts.

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Jaysmyne

14 years ago

Wow. Thanks for doing this Allen, I joined up as a war room member a couple days ago and felt it was the best thing I ever did. Now its more than the best thing I ever did!

I got in just in time.

I also like the idea of letting people browse with out paying a dime. There are many goldmines to be found without paying for them to give newbies a leg up

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Michael Mayo 14 years ago

Allen,

Thank you!

I've been on the watch for a specific group to arrive here for a while
and I believe you just nipped that in the butt.

Now I can relax and get some rest/work done!

Enough said.

Have a Great Night.
Michael

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I believe you already do know.
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cypherslock

14 years ago

Awesome. Happily I'm in the War Room. I think this is good as we'll have more quality WSOs and such and less quantity. Kudos!

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leesr

14 years ago

I'm not against the paid upgrade.

But, on further reflection, I think this will devalue the War Room.
Up until now it was populated by members who "chose" to be there. Probably due to someone elses recommendation, as in my case. I joined the War Room before I ever visited the forums, including the WSO.

Now, all the spammers who want to stick here will also be in the War Room. Even though they might not of considered it otherwise.

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Originally Posted by leesr

I'm not against the paid upgrade.

But, on further reflection, I think this will devalue the War Room.
Up until now it was populated by members who "chose" to be there. Probably due to someone elses recommendation, as in my case. I joined the War Room before I ever visited the forums, including the WSO.

Now, all the spammers who want to stick here will also be in the War Room. Even though they might not of considered it otherwise.

It won't really be a problem. The War Room is moderated so only the type of posts that are ok will make it in. Plus I think once a lot of the new members see how things go in there they will also have some great things to contribute.

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14 years ago

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It won't really be a problem. The War Room is moderated so only the type of posts that are ok will make it in. Plus I think once a lot of the new members see how things go in there they will also have some great things to contribute.

But, it might have less of a "limited quantities" kind of feel to it, you know?

Other than that, reducing the amount of junk will be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

But, it might have less of a "limited quantities" kind of feel to it, you know?

It would have to be just slightly less :-)

You have to remember we're talking about human nature here. There will be tons who will dig their feet in and die and go to hell before they upgrade.

The truth is it's only going to be a few more a day joining the War Room. Not as many as you would expect. Out of the huge number of people who register here a day only a very small fraction are serious. The rest are spammers, blog abusers and have their sights set on making money in the WSO room by running up 30 posts real quick. The vast majority of those people will not pay to upgrade, which is a good thing.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

It won't really be a problem. The War Room is moderated so only the type of posts that are ok will make it in. Plus I think once a lot of the new members see how things go in there they will also have some great things to contribute.

True on the moderated posts, but how about the giveaways and the occasional access to WSO without having to pay? Those things will be somewhat devalued if everyone has access to them; especially the free WSO. No one is going to want to offer that because it kills the ability to sell it to non-WR members.

I offer for consideration a two-tier membership. One gets you enhanced WF access and then you still sell the WR access as a separate item as you do now. That keeps the WR somewhat exclusive and looks good to you as a revenue model as well.

Just a thought...

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

Hey Allen,

Have you considered using the "thanks" as a way to qualify for WSOs? Maybe require someone to have 10 "thank you's" from 10 different Warriors before they could run a WSO. And each Warrior would need 100 posts in order to give a thanks.

It's fairly hard to get a thank you and it would mean that the posts made were of high quality and a help to the community.

If not, I'm still happy with the new changes. Those one line posts were a real pain:

"Thank you for the good information."

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Hey Allen,

Have you considered using the "thanks" as a way to qualify for WSOs? Maybe require someone to have 10 "thank you's" from 10 different Warriors before they could run a WSO. And each Warrior would need 100 posts in order to give a thanks.

It's fairly hard to get a thank you and it would mean that the posts made were of high quality and a help to the community.

If not, I'm still happy with the new changes. Those one line posts were a real pain:

"Thank you for the good information."

That's an interesting idea Kurt :-)

I just wonder how long it would be before someone tried to sell 'thanks' on DP...LOL!

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I just wonder how long it would be before someone tried to sell 'thanks' on DP...LOL!

I'm sure there would be ways of finding and banning people that would do that.
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That's an interesting idea Kurt :-)

I just wonder how long it would be before someone tried to sell 'thanks' on DP...LOL!

Less time than it would take to post the new rule.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

That's an interesting idea Kurt :-)

I just wonder how long it would be before someone tried to sell 'thanks' on DP...LOL!

Originally Posted by Kurt

Hey Allen,

Have you considered using the "thanks" as a way to qualify for WSOs? Maybe require someone to have 10 "thank you's" from 10 different Warriors before they could run a WSO. And each Warrior would need 100 posts in order to give a thanks.

It's fairly hard to get a thank you and it would mean that the posts made were of high quality and a help to the community.

I think this is an excellent idea. IMO it would increase the quality of WSO's as well as the credibility. It is relatively easy to join the forum and to boost post count quickly but the quality of the posting is what gives a certain amount of credibility. As far as 'selling thanks' I don't think this is feasible.

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mrwoods 13 years ago

One thing I noticed being new to the forum is you cannot post helpful links in your replies until your number of postings is up. It is harder to get thanks if you can't direct someone to an informational link. And, if you can't post WSO's your thank yous will not be there either. Speaking as a newcomer to the forum, I actually like the idea of paying to be a member and list WSO's. I believe it will be a self inflicted quality control that IM desperatly could use elsewhere.
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Wayne Cochrane

13 years ago

Allen,

I have not actually been able to find any written confirmation that free members will still be able to see WSO's.

I feel that it would be a very large disservice to WSO posters if WSO's were only accessible to paid War Room members. (By the way I hate the name "War Room" Not a club I would like to tell my friends I am a member of!)

I will pay my $37 as soon as I get confirmation that free members as well as War Room members will still be able to see and respond to WSo's.

So, confirmation please!

Thanyou!

Wayne.

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I just found this place by accident. I was watching Steve Nam videos and by the way they are excellent training tools. He gave a great plug for the Warrior site and said that any newbie like myself should hang there hat there and learn and join in on the forums, so this cowboy is placing his hat in the ring and looking forward to signing on as a paid member real soon. Hope to learn a ton of stuff, I have been surfing the Net and have found that I want to learn from a few Gurus and focus on taking the baby steps in network marketing that will eventually lead to my success. I have been in sales and marketing most of my life, but never a network marketer, so hoping to learn more about it. This seems like a great place to learn, thanks Allen, I will be joining real soon as a paid member.
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- madscots 13 years ago
  
  After reading through this thread, I have noticed several things. There are those that say the membership fee will drive people away, probably, but I believe that it will only be people who weren't serious about being here anyway.
  Another thing is those saying that people that won't pay $37 aren't serious about their business. Some of us don't have $37, we're in one of the deepest recessions in a long and, for me personally, it knocked my offline business literally offline (IT Support, no contracts in months). Add to that the fact that Uncle Sam has screwed around with my Veteran's compensation, and that $37 becomes a bit of a stretch, otherwise I would have joined before now (and still will when everything gets straightened out).
  Even without being a member though, the free information that you can get on this forum is beyond priceless. The number of successful people on here who freely share information is astounding. In the last few weeks I have gotten a lot of information just by reading what is freely available. I am now trying to figure out exactly what direction to take to get myself running online, after many years of stops and starts.
  I actually joined here quite a few years ago (05-06 timeframe) but lost my username and password when the forums changed. (Just a sidenote, I gave up after an hour or so of trying to play with the captcha to recover my old information (vision impaired), and created a new profile.)
  
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  Glad to see the attempt at reducing spammers/scammers on here.
  
  While I cannot currently afford $37 I think it is a good idea to reduce the WSOs to more serious offers.
  
  I left a few months ago after trying to wade thru all the muck and honestly, I didn't know about the change until just a few minutes ago.
  
  I would join but all the attempts I have made at making money have just failed and now I am stuck with virtually no money ( <$2) and close to being homeless.
  
  Well, I better run off and see how it has changed the 'free' side of things.
  
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  scraggz 13 years ago
  
  Haven't been here for a while, I end up spending too much time in here but came back to join the War Room. Unless you are in financial strife it is a no brainer.
  
  Having read a lot of the posts in this thread another perspective on it all occured to me and that is that forced membership of the War room might actually downgrade it's value.
  
  Previously it had an exclusive aura to it, might that now be taken away? For instance, members gave away some of their best stuff in there, I believe because they were giving to a restricted audience. It will now be like it's being presented to the whole of the forum excluding only free members of whom there'll be a lot less.
  
  As for spammers being deterred by payment, many of them think nothing of paying 50 bucks for a list of email addresses. I believe that more stringent rules and moderation would be more effective, make the *******s work for it, contribute, most of them wouldn't, that's why they're spammers in the first place.
  
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Wayne Cochrane

Allen,

I have not actually been able to find any written confirmation that free members will still be able to see WSO's.

I feel that it would be a very large disservice to WSO posters if WSO's were only accessible to paid War Room members. (By the way I hate the name "War Room" Not a club I would like to tell my friends I am a member of!)

I will pay my $37 as soon as I get confirmation that free members as well as War Room members will still be able to see and respond to WSo's.

So, confirmation please!

Thanyou!

Wayne.

You can actually check this quite easily for yourself, without written confirmation. If you log out of the forum, you are effectively at the same status as a free member ie. - the forum only knows you are a War Room member once you are logged in.

If you log out, you'll be able to see that you have full access to read all areas of the forum apart from the War Room.

Hope that helps.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Hey Allen,

Have you considered using the "thanks" as a way to qualify for WSOs? Maybe require someone to have 10 "thank you's" from 10 different Warriors before they could run a WSO. And each Warrior would need 100 posts in order to give a thanks.

It's fairly hard to get a thank you and it would mean that the posts made were of high quality and a help to the community.

If not, I'm still happy with the new changes. Those one line posts were a real pain:

"Thank you for the good information."

Hi Kurt,

May I please just take this opportunity, as a new member, to ask one simple question. How do you thank someone? I have tried but cannot find the link. I am sure the rest of the membership will think this is a very silly question but its got me baffled for the moment.

Jack

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SickHippie

14 years ago

Heh, I was wondering why I suddenly had a PM limit of 10 instead of 400 (or whatever it was). Well, it's getting late tonight and I still have some other business to take care of. I'll hit up that paid membership tomorrow.

This forum has made me enough money just through sheer wisdom gained that I owe a bit back anyway. I certainly don't want another DP!

Kudos to the admin for taking charge and cleaning things up. It's really difficult in a tight knit community to make bigger changes like this, but they almost always work out for the best in the long run.

And since we are all here for the long run...

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14 years ago

IMO this is a good business decision.

Those who understand the value will pay, the others will join eventually. And the unwanted spammers will stay out.

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Jeremy Kelsall 14 years ago

Very good indeed!

Everyone pretty much can still do their thing, but if they want to try to "take advantage" it is going to cost them a little coin
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Kevin Riley 14 years ago

Allen

I will be very happy to see the WSO section returning to the level of quality I expect from the WF. I have been a wee bit dissatisfied with the WSO of late, but bit my lip due to the respect I have for our relationship. I believe this spot of house cleaning is just what is needed.

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14 years ago

Excellent decision!! Way to go!

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Whew - glad I joined!

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14 years ago

I was scared when I saw this cos there is no how I can pay because paypal hates Nigerians but thank God I already joined the war room months ago.

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AidanKay

14 years ago

It's a shame, I literally only have about $11 US to my name.

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It's good though, at least this place won't end up like DP ^^.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidanKay

It's a shame, I literally only have about $11 US to my name.

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It's good though, at least this place won't end up like DP ^^.

-Aidan.

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I read through your posts and you are trying to learn. Good for you. Send me a pm with your Paypal address and I will send you the money for the War Room.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bobsilber

Hey Aidan,

I read through your posts and you are trying to learn. Good for you. Send me a pm with your Paypal address and I will send you the money for the War Room.

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Hey mate,

I sent you a PM. Sorry it took so long, had to delete my PMs =D.

Cheers,

-Aidan.

EDIT:

bobsilber came through and actually gave me the money for my upgrade!

If you're allowed to do this, can anyone who reads this please click the 'Thanks' button under his post.

THANK YOU!

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Dear Allen,

I have just paid the fee.

Kindly tell me what to do next.

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  Make sure that you have enough money in your account to cover the fee and then get a cup of coffee and some cookies and celebrate making a very good financial decision.
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bobsilber

Hey Aidan,

I read through your posts and you are trying to learn. Good for you. Send me a pm with your Paypal address and I will send you the money for the War Room.

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That is Awesome Bob! Just goes to show that the people
here at the WF really do CARE about the newbies making
an attempt.

It also proves that not ALL lawyers are heartless.

I've been dragging my feet on joining the War Room myself,
mainly because I bought into the Mind Warriors when Allen
first created it only to see it be opened up as a free forum
too.

Doesn't look like that's going to happen with the War Room
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bobsilber

Hey Aidan,

I read through your posts and you are trying to learn. Good for you. Send me a pm with your Paypal address and I will send you the money for the War Room.

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Nice to see stuff like that from Warriors. I am all for the additional fee, I think it's well worth it and hope it does as intended to make this forum a better place to be all around.

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14 years ago

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MikeLantz

14 years ago

Allen,

Sounds good. I hope it helps make things better around here, like in the good ol' days!

Quick question: Is this going to change any of the rules and restrictions currently in the WSO forum? Like the 30 posts rule, PM rule, commenting rule?

Also, did you see my thread about WSO Pro today? Would like to touch base with you about that.

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Originally Posted by MikeLantz

Allen,

Sounds good. I hope it helps make things better around here, like in the good ol' days!

Quick question: Is this going to change any of the rules and restrictions currently in the WSO forum? Like the 30 posts rule, PM rule, commenting rule?

Also, did you see my thread about WSO Pro today? Would like to touch base with you about that.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Yes the 30 posts rule is going away. Send me a PM for other details...

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14 years ago

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Hi Mike,

Yes the 30 posts rule is going away. Send me a PM for other details...

Awesome, thanks for the clarification.

So, am I correct in assuming that all members will still be able to view/post in the WSO forum, but just not be able to post a WSO unless they are a paid War Room member?

WSO are already moderated, so this may not be a big issue, but don't you think if a spammer was already willing to pay $20 to post a WSO, that paying $57 will deter them? Mostly just thinking out loud here...

I'll send you a PM about the other stuff.

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Joe118 14 years ago

I also believe this wont work. $57 or $20 is peanuts for spammers. And its a proven thing that you will make that money back even if your WSO is a total abysmal failure. This measly amount is not going to do it for spammers.

If you want to keep the spammers out simply BAN them, ban their IP addresses, require an extensive trial period (300 posts + 100 thanks + 100 days). Anything. Time investment and effort to get full rights here are much more effective detterents.

That said, I think that cleaning up WF is a great idea, and now that I looked I realize that the war room is only $37, so I'm kicking myself for not buying in earlier. How stupid of me I'll be signing up right after I post this.
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  but really this is excellent. also lately the warroom has seemed to become a rehashed *free version of WSOs. Maybe we can clean that up too and leave it as a place for quality discussions and original thoughts, as I (not sure about others) find value in a private place to engage in intelligent discussions and new strategies rather than a place where I can pick up whatever WSO's or whatever report for free.
  
  especially since the membership will increaes it will be nice to really focus in the purpose of the warroom. this may mean less approved posts at first, however in the long run the quality posters will really start to come out of the woodwork as they see that their posts will not be bordered on both sides, by a ***FREE!!!!!*** WSO
  
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  Cool...maybe this will keep Jeremy out....
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Thank you! Good choice... Only concern is that my war room membership (from the beginning) is a little less exclusive. Otherwise, I'm happy!
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13 years ago

It is unfortunate! This might sound good but consider the immplications. Most digital products profit tremendously from NEWBIES and to cut that out will affect the income of some sellers. You need the poor in any business environment because many strive to improve by buying a lot of the not so good products offered. I see a lot of offerings in here that are not up to par, is it time to review all offerings before been posted?
Well I will join the war room. Do consider the immplications of your order: you need the less fortunate to create proper balance. Who will buy all the products if we all are smart? Your former setup was perfect and has contributed to the forums tremendous growth. Just like in any society, the poor perform essential functions and lets not pretend we want everyone to be smart, then who will buy all these digital products?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by rayray7

It is unfortunate! This might sound good but consider the immplications. Most digital products profit tremendously from NEWBIES and to cut that out will affect the income of some sellers. You need the poor in any business environment because many strive to improve by buying a lot of the not so good products offered. I see a lot of offerings in here that are not up to par, is it time to review all offerings before been posted?
Well I will join the war room. Do consider the immplications of your order: you need the less fortunate to create proper balance. Who will buy all the products if we all are smart? Your former setup was perfect and has contributed to the forums tremendous growth. Just like in any society, the poor perform essential functions and lets not pretend we want everyone to be smart, then who will buy all these digital products?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. "Newbies" and the "poor" have access to the WSO's and can still buy them. There are no implications as far as I'm concerned. It's a very smart move, in my opinion.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by rayray7

It is unfortunate! This might sound good but consider the immplications. Most digital products profit tremendously from NEWBIES and to cut that out will affect the income of some sellers. You need the poor in any business environment because many strive to improve by buying a lot of the not so good products offered. I see a lot of offerings in here that are not up to par, is it time to review all offerings before been posted?
Well I will join the war room. Do consider the immplications of your order: you need the less fortunate to create proper balance. Who will buy all the products if we all are smart? Your former setup was perfect and has contributed to the forums tremendous growth. Just like in any society, the poor perform essential functions and lets not pretend we want everyone to be smart, then who will buy all these digital products?

WOW! That's deep...but for those who knowingly peddle junk, it's too true. That way of thinking is for the weak, shallow and mediocre who will never go beyond a low 5-figure income (before deductions).

The essence of what you're saying is understood but I hope you don't mean what it sounds like given your choice of words. What makes you think Newbies are poor and even worse, poor people are not smart? For example, when you were a Newbie, were you poor and not smart? Do you know what an Exabyte is? Petabyte? SPARQL? RDF Triples? Ignorant, doesn't know or un-aware is a better description for a newbie, don't you think?

WHAT HAPPENED to all that HELP people are promised? I thought everyone is supposed to be making money online by HELPING those you sell products to. Sounds like keeping newbies over in the ignorant corner where "friends" offer to help get that "empty" wallet out is the real plan.

The "smartest" thing you said is in red. Why does anyone sell products they have never used and would never buy because they know it doesn't work? Selling junk has nothing to do with income level or IQ...it affects students in college, homemakers, and everyone's retired "great" grandparents who are targeted as newbies too.

I have never heard of anyone with white hair being "not smart". History wouldn't have to repeat itself if more young people had long conversations with older, VERY SMART people...then listened AND go pick their brains whenever possible... they won't let you unless you ask first! Anyone over 70 is a walking product that needs to be digitalized...How? Just go to How to Write eBook and that is NOT an affiliate link. Why he's got it marked down 70% I don't know but you will be shocked at how little he's asking for so much value -- he will personally make sure YOU succeed...seriously. He will and you can tell him I said that too!

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johnsamuels 13 years ago

I have been a free member of this forum for quite a long time, and I think this is a great move. I will be signing on as a paid member.

The one other thing that I would like to see is a return to the limit on when you can bump a WSO. It's gotten much harder to see which ones are fresh, as more aggressive bumpers simply dominate the first page.

From a buyers perspective, it was not an improvement. Maybe now that only paid members can post a WSO, we could return to the old rules for bumping/reposting WSO threads?
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Agreed , Spammers are disgusting.
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amsjinjoe 13 years ago

i am new to this forum i can say one thing about this, this forum is awesome i would pay even a 100$ to be here learning from others ,exchange ideas ,getting tips and much more, it's all worth it
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khulet22 13 years ago

Thank you for this good idea Allen. Cheer!
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Great discussion is going on this warrior Forum Going Back To Paid Status i'd like to join with you guys and gain knowledge from it and thanks to Allen for great opinion...
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craigc1980 13 years ago

Great Job Allen

I feel more secure now
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Joe808 13 years ago

Allen,

Will I be able to post classifieds without the $20 fee once I upgrade?

Thanks!
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  Originally Posted by Joe808
  
  Allen,
  
  Will I be able to post classifieds without the $20 fee once I upgrade?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Sorry, WarRoom Membership is one time fee and posting fees are different than that and you have to pay it every time you post a classified or WSO.
  But membership will be your best investment.
  
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revcook 13 years ago

I just upgraded and I must say that it was well worth it.
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David Leyson 13 years ago

I am only new to IM and less than a week ago found WF, I have been so happy with all the content and have picked up a few WSO already.

I can't believe people who complain about such a small 1 of cost for such a quality service. Do people realize IM is a business? Too much hype has been given over the years to making money without spending a cent to do so.

Reality check people, you will have to spend money to make money!

I paid up as soon as I had seen the notice, and did it with a smile so happy to be able to help support such a good forum.

WF has now become one of my first points of reference in the IM world

A big thanks to everyone who gets involved here.

Keep up the good work.
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Alansplace 13 years ago

I have a couple of question

1) How much is the WSO Membership

2) How long is the membership for example 6 month, 1 year

3) How Good is the VIP War Room

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BlueGlobeSeo 13 years ago

I appreciate for this good decision.
thanks Allen.
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cordi 13 years ago

Thanks! I've read great things about this forum and from Angela herself. Will upgrade soon. regards
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hadief 13 years ago

Thanks for doing this Allen
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My War Room purchase was the best I made on this site!
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marketingbear 13 years ago

Hi Allen and all,
First post on the warrior forum, I just joined up today. Been lurking for almost a week, reading 1 thread that was EXACTLY what I was looking for. I just joined the war room, right before I read this post. $37 for the next 20 years of excellent information, I already made that with the info from this forum and I have only had ONE meeting with a client!!!!! Thanks to everyone, can't wait to learn more and hopefully start teaching ya'll something at some point in the future.

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Just Joined ! Woooo Yeah!
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Costa Rica Surf 13 years ago

I'm new to the forum and just learning what's available here. I agree that people don't things they get for free. I'll upgrade very soon.
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- Trent Harrington 13 years ago
  
  Hi Everyone,
  My first post here - but I have already learned a lot. I'll be joining the War Room shortly - soon as I get a little more $ in. Definitely a great value I can see already.
  
  Thanks for all the great information.
  
  I will really value my being a part of this great forum.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by grrbtn1959

I am very new to trying to make it as an IM. I can understand why it has become a paid site but for us starting out $37 is still an amount that i would have to think about. $37 for me is 2 months hosting at aweber, or 4 months hosting for my web sites.
As for the comment about if people can not afford the $37 how can they expect to earn $100's or $1000's is verging on the side of arrogance. To me that read as "how can you expect to make it without full access to the forums"
Also if the fee is to stop people getting their hand on WSO easily, has it not occurred to you that if these same people know they are going to make more than $37 out of it they will cough up the fee for the upgrade anyway.
The access to the war room buy paying for the upgrade is good news as it means the war room will not be viewed as an ellitist club for the boys, and the fact you will not have to get on the good side of one of the boys to get your invite.
Dont get me wrong, i will still post and visit the forums as i think the knowledge already here is excellent. I probably will not pay for the upgrade untill i have earned some more money. In fact i may come back once i have made a couple of $100 just to prove you wrong that you do not need to be a full member of this forum to make money online.
To block people who have not paid the upgrade fee from offering WSO is just putting another herdle in front of people trying to get started. In fact i have just had a great idea, would anyone like to recive my WSO, its based on setting up a forum site where you can post WSO for free ?

The War Room never required you to 'be nice to a bunch of elitist boys' - it has always been paid access, the only change is the fact it is now required to post a WSO.

The point isn't to get the upgrade fees, so it doesn't really matter if people coud pay for it out of WSO earnings. They have always been able to do that - the point is, that WF is moving away from that - this about maintaining quality in the WSO forum, not getting War Room members.

You seem to have a whole bunch of wrong ideas about the War Room - I guess with five posts though you are very new to the site. Of course you can earn 100s without joining the war room - go for it.

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Roy J. Keller 14 years ago

I joined the forum back in 2006 and then paid to join the war room when it first came into play. I come and read more than I post since the many, many top marketers have already answered better than I could. There is no better forum on the net nor do the others have all the clout this one has.

When I joined and was told that it had gone free it did not take me long to see the value that we got for free so paying for the war room was no problem and I think that things will only get better now that you are going back to paid.

Thanks Allen for such a great place to learn and grow and it will only get better now.

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John Cussons 14 years ago

Allen

I agree this is a positive move...

I had to check my profile because I wasn't sure if I was a The War Room member...

I AM!

Be Awesome!
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GainRealWealth 14 years ago

Yes, because this is one of very very few places where I can get some real answers and direction as it relates to IM.
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reapr 14 years ago

I think this is a fantastic idea!

Don't want it to become like other forums I bailed from.

It would also probably help to see a one post a day limit and no sigs or links in post unless a paid member. That way new members can still ask questions and have access to the board.

Just my thoughts.
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homebizrockstar 14 years ago

I didn't know this before as I am new to the forum. I think it is a great way to weed em out! LOL I will be signing up right now! thanks Allen
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Great News,

I would like to go for it. . .
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  1) What is War room and how i could get benefit from this. I am curious about to join this but i would like to know more about War Room.
  
  The War Room is a forum full of free products, plans, etc from members and from Allen. For example, people are giving away their WSO products inside the War Room. Basically, it's a treasure trove of products and information for one low price.
  
  Run a search for "war room" to get testimonials from plenty of satisfied people (the War Room way overdelivers based on price -- it's easy to find single threads in there that are worth MORE than the price of admission).
  
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  Yes -- read Allen's posts in this thread for more information. But the short answer is yes... upgrading gives you the privilege of posting a WSO, but you need to pay the $20 each time.
  
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ladyniche 13 years ago

I am a newbie and have had two questions answered withing 24 hours. I can't believe how many people are out there so willing to help, and clearly well informed. I am happy to join.
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designfuschion

14 years ago

hey Allen,
I have a couple of questions.

Those who upgrade to a Full Warrior Member will be able to:

* Post Warrior Special Offers

* Get Instant Access To The War Room

* Be Able To Create Their Own Warrior Forum Blog

* Be Able To Create Their Own Warrior Forum Social Group

* Will Have No Restrictions On Private Messages And Will Be Able to Store Up To 400 Messages

So the $20 WSO fee is gone? with this upgrade,or does the 20$ still apply,even after upgrading to war room?
Just curious as I was thinking of putting up my first WSO.

btw,WF is the best

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by designfuschion

hey Allen,
I have a couple of questions.

So the $20 WSO fee is gone? with this upgrade,or does the 20$ still apply,even after upgrading to war room?
Just curious as I was thinking of putting up my first WSO.

btw,WF is the best

I'm going to guess that the $20 fee will still be in effect as that is a
serious chunk of income for the forum, which I am sure takes a serious
amount of money to keep running.

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Originally Posted by designfuschion

hey Allen,
I have a couple of questions.

So the $20 WSO fee is gone? with this upgrade,or does the 20$ still apply,even after upgrading to war room?
Just curious as I was thinking of putting up my first WSO.

btw,WF is the best

The WSO fee still applies. This is just to help cut down on the number of them and the useless posts that resulted from the 30 posts rule.

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JCTunes 14 years ago

Originally Posted by admin

The WSO fee still applies. This is just to help cut down on the number of them and the useless posts that resulted from the 30 posts rule.

Thanks!

For the person that asked about the WSO fee, this was the response from Allen to a previous post.
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John Atkins

14 years ago

Exellent decision Allen!

This will definitely increase the forum's professionality.

Thanks for making the WF a better place.

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Alex Rich 14 years ago

Cheers to great leadership.

I was becoming concerned about being in a community where a purchase could be made with confidence that value would be exchanged for a few dollars between forum mates. My confidence is 100% restored. Thank you!!
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grey77 14 years ago

'Bout time Allen -- thanks for all of us!
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Kat Bartone 14 years ago

Hi Allen,

I'm so happy that you've made this move. You're right - we've been heading in the wrong direction for awhile. In fact, I've been hanging out here much less frequently of late precisely because of some of the seediness that I've seen growing here. Yes, those seeds begin to take root, and before you know it, we're overrun with weeds.

I'm just hoping that this will serve as enough of a deterrent to the undesired element. Already I noticed one fellow in the WR had been offering something free to WR members that he had running as a $10 WSO. Well, he started seeing it out on the 'net, freely available. Doesn't mean it necessarily came from a WR member, but it's possible. So he's started to charge for it - a nominal amount, grant you, but the idea is that he's realized that even in the WR, he has to do some 'filtering'.

Bottom line, I wonder if the low price point for the WR will serve as enough of a deterrent? If someone is going to repeatedly throw out twenty bucks for a scammy WSO, they may not hesitate to lay out a measly $37 bucks to continue to have the right to do so.

Ultimately, I have complete confidence in the decisions you make. Thanks for doing this.

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xtreme newbie 14 years ago

For the access to the valuable content and advice on the forum, $37 is a very small investment. Glad I made the commitment to join the War Room last week. Nothing like having good intuition:-)
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Jeremy Morgan 14 years ago

I haven't been here very long, but I really like the place. $37 seems like a very small investment to clean up the problems and enjoy a good business forum. Consider it done.
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- Sandor Verebi 14 years ago
  
  Hi Allen,
  
  This was a good decision what I expected. I can approve it only.
  
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noangel 14 years ago

Allen you have never made a bad decision when it comes to this forum...
and this is no exception!

Thanks,
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jjallan

14 years ago

Allen I hope you read this:
I have tried to get in touch with anyone from here to find out why i got kicked off! I went to open up warrior forum and i got this page that said i was baned for spaming. Now i dont spam and im a member of the war room . I dont even have a sig file on my post. Allen please tell me what happend or how i can fix it. The Warrior Forum is My life blood . I have got my hopes and dreams into this. and now im baned for life? I went to alexa to try and find out how to send you an email and it bounced back..Allen please help me. I had to sign up again just to get a message to someone.

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TristanPerry

14 years ago

Going back to a point made earlier - $37 will certainly prevent much of the spam.

Think about Angela and Paul's backlinks - would you be willing to pay $37... heck even $2... per site to get a backlink? The average person certainly wouldn't.

I've found that by charging, you do certainly cut out such problems by quite a high amount.

A lot of people will take a free ride when things are free. But simply charging any amount (even $5) will stop such people taking a free ride.

It's not so much the amount ($37) as the point of having to pay. Many simply get put off when they have to pay, hence they won't spam here.

Originally Posted by jjallan

Allen I hope you read this:
I have tried to get in touch with anyone from here to find out why i got kicked off! I went to open up warrior forum and i got this page that said i was baned for spaming. Now i dont spam and im a member of the war room . I dont even have a sig file on my post. Allen please tell me what happend or how i can fix it. The Warrior Forum is My life blood . I have got my hopes and dreams into this. and now im baned for life? I went to alexa to try and find out how to send you an email and it bounced back..Allen please help me. I had to sign up again just to get a message to someone.

Just bumping this up (well quoting it) to maximise its exposure

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Luckies 14 years ago

Excellent move!
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edhan 14 years ago

Yes. I totally agreed with that. I am also happy that I have the chance of being a WR member today by a sponsor.

This move will likely to boost the status of WF and people who come and participate will be serious to build business online rather than being spammers.

We will all gain the limelight from WF and people will appreciate the recognition. All thanks to Allen for this nice decision. I hope to learn as much as I can and share with those in need of help.
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abo28 14 years ago

Hello,

I've just paid the 37 dollars and got in. It's worth it!

IMHO, 37 dollars should not be a hurdle at all for someone who is serious about his/her business. Personally, I spent $200+ until I made my first dollar online. And I still have to spend... No risk, no win!
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wealth2moms

14 years ago

Hi,

I signed up and paid for the membership at the very beginning when it was a paid membership and hardly anyone was here. I think it was $25. Am I grandfathered into this.

If I already paid once, is that fair to charge me again?

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Originally Posted by wealth2moms

Hi,

I signed up and paid for the membership at the very beginning when it was a paid membership and hardly anyone was here. I think it was $25. Am I grandfathered into this.

If I already paid once, is that fair to charge me again?

thanks,

Fern

You are not being charged again... you have access to the forum.

However, if you want access to the new features, features that did not exist when you and I first paid and joined years ago, then you need to pony up.

In the 6 years that I have been a member I have never seen Allen do anything that was unfair or that did not ultimately benefit the entire forum.

Honestly, I think he has a unique talent for decision making and facilitating the internet's best internet marketing forum and keeping it the best.

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Iain Ainsworth 14 years ago

Fantastic News!

Thank you Allen.
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sylviad

14 years ago

This makes me glad I joined the War Room way back when you started it.

But I must admit, although I immediately saw what fabulous content and community we have access to at the WF, I didn't realize just how high the quality was until I recently went in search of other marketing forums.

To be honest, I'm shocked that most are so bad. Reading posts on other forums vs reading posts here, you quickly see the level of expertise of the members.

Thanks, Allen, for doing what you can to build this great forum... and keep out the riff-raff.

Sylvia

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14 years ago

Sylvia, I couldn't agree more. I've had the same experience and it is shocking - like the WF exists outside of time and space . . . in the Warrior (Twilight) Zone . . . How can people not know about this place, or (gasp) choose another forum over this one? Black holes? Parallel universes? There must be an explanation.

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This makes me glad I joined the War Room way back when you started it.

But I must admit, although I immediately saw what fabulous content and community we have access to at the WF, I didn't realize just how high the quality was until I recently went in search of other marketing forums.

To be honest, I'm shocked that most are so bad. Reading posts on other forums vs reading posts here, you quickly see the level of expertise of the members.
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Scott W 14 years ago

$37 is a steal for this...if one can't afford to pay this price they might as well go back to working the 7-Eleven! Besides, I've paid way more for some monthly memberships...
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Creative Thinker

14 years ago

I just joined war room 1 week back. Just in time

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14 years ago

great move...I will be upgrading shortly.

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yezbick99

14 years ago

I paid the $20 WSO fee earlier today. I just paid an additional $37 to keep my membership here.

Can I get a refund for my WSO payment as it is no longer neccesary to post if I pay the $37 for WSO membership?

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john_kennedy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yezbick99

I paid the $20 WSO fee earlier today. I just paid an additional $37 to keep my membership here.

Can I get a refund for my WSO payment as it is no longer neccesary to post if I pay the $37 for WSO membership?

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See above. Per Allen's last post, the fee still applies. The $37 makes you a member and gives you the ability to post a WSO. Nonmembers can no longer post a WSO.

The WSO fee still applies. This is just to help cut down on the number of them and the useless posts that resulted from the 30 posts rule.

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yezbick99

14 years ago

Originally Posted by john_kennedy

See above. Per Allen's last post, the fee still applies. The $37 makes you a member and gives you the ability to post a WSO. Nonmembers can no longer post a WSO.

Ok, thank you for pointing this out.

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Gladiator

14 years ago

Great idea Allen! Any chance of the return of The Warrior Alliance?

Andre

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MissTerraK 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gladiator

Great idea Allen! Any chance of the return of The Warrior Alliance?

Andre

I am a very excited newbie trying to learn things, so please forgive my ignorance, what is/was the "Warrior Alliance" ?
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  I am a very excited newbie trying to learn things, so please forgive my ignorance, what is/was the "Warrior Alliance" ?
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Shannon Herod

14 years ago

Awesome move!

Shoot, I had to pay to get in here many moons ago when us IM pioneers still had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to get down the hall to our home offices.

Then I happily paid again to get into the war room. I think this is a good move, although, I would vote for a price increase for the upgrade.

Talk soon,

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TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

Great decision Allen.... with you all the way ...

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FreshMedia

14 years ago

This is one of the most valuable forums I've come across. I joined the War Room about a week after joining the site. What I've learned here in about a month is worth its weight in gold. The price for membership is well worth it. Specially if it will help rid of spam.

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Joe118

14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreshMedia

This is one of the most valuable forums I've come across. I joined the War Room about a week after joining the site. What I've learned here in about a month is worth its weight in gold. The price for membership is well worth it. Specially if it will help rid of spam.

How do you weigh electrons?

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Didier Faucher 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe118

How do you weigh electrons?

The electron has a mass.
It's about 9,10938215 �-- 10 (exp-31) kg
(Not a joke )

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- Ken 14 years ago
  
  Thanks Allen.
  I'm not a WSO seller, but I am a frequent purchaser and lately it's been a pain trying to separate the good from the trash. I hope this improves the quality of WSO offerings.
  
  The War Room is without a doubt the best IM value on the internet.
  
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Kirk Ward 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe118

How do you weigh electrons?

In Angstrom Units

FYI, 36,437,268,112,632,987 Angstrom Units equals one teaspoon of ethereal cosmos

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designfuschion

14 years ago

thanks for the clarification.

I've been curious about the war room for awhile now. I'll join as soon as i hit 57$ in paypal lol

and i agree...i wouldn't want to see WF turn into DP..

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14 years ago

Great Stuff Allen...sometimes though decisions work for the better
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Joel O

14 years ago

Although it's been said many times already, I still want to say it myself... Thank you Allen!

You are smart (we all knew that already), because this will only serve to increase the value of the forum even more.

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Elliott

14 years ago

Good move, good to see!

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LB

14 years ago

Superb.

This place was on its way to becoming "DP lite" and that's no fault of the great members here...it's just when a good thing comes along there's always someone who will exploit it.

Hopefully this will only increase the caliber of members here.

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edpudol1973

14 years ago

Excellent decision Allen, I love it... I hope free members can't also post in the main forum and can't use signature because sometimes many are using the main forum to spam or promote their own business.

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BrashImpact 14 years ago

Allen,
Just the kick in the butt some of us needed to get into the war room. The forum itself is so full of information its tough for people to digest, little lown implement and take action. I agree with an above post.

Making so many thanks and posts a requirement too post WSO would be a huge benefit. It is almost impossible for someone to get thanks unless its of good value, Free or paid. I for one would love to see that implemented. So many warriors are experts in specific fields and areas, and that diversity is what makes this forum such a valuable place. I for one, like to contribute, but oh how i appreciate it when i have a techie question and someone in the forum can answer in it minutes.

Please take my vote to install the thanks platform. If that count needs to be 100 i am all for it, even though i have only 48 or somewhere near that. I think that would really clean up the WSO section, and i buy an awful lot of WSO'S.

Thanks again...For your commitment to keeping this forum strong and not DP light.
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  Hi Fellow Warriors , I have agree with the post requirements , this would weed out a lot of spammers. I come to Warrior Forum for the great information and depend on it not to be BS.
  
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GarrieWilson

14 years ago

I'd raise that $37 to $97...

But that's just me.

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Stephen Luc 14 years ago

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

I'd raise that $37 to $97...

But that's just me.

I agree, $37 is quite low, but will bring quality and serious business people to this forum. I would gladly pay $97 or even $1000 for what this forum has done for my business. The value of this forum in itself is worth a lot more; relationships, and learning.

Thanks Allen for doing this!
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locpic63

14 years ago

Hey this is great!

You guys do not know how much you have just helped me. You see now I get to kill 2 birds with one stone. I wanted to join the War Room but couldn't afford it. Now I will Join the War Room on Wednesday when I get my next check. Here is the kicker, the only way I can afford it is to quit smoking (which I wanted to any way). I love you guys, I think you just saved my life!! LOL

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scrofford

14 years ago

Thanks Allen! I am really new here and I really don't want "junk" here! I feel that this is a great place for me to learn and we don't need "spammers" or people who are not serious!

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writetale

14 years ago

ok, who or what is DP? another forum?

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SickHippie

14 years ago

Well, whatever you do, don't look it up on Google Image Search...

Originally Posted by writetale

ok, who or what is DP? another forum?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by writetale

ok, who or what is DP? another forum?

Yes, DP is another forum. But it sucks serious butt and is not
worth visiting. Unless, of course, you like getting ripped off.

Originally Posted by SickHippie

Well, whatever you do, don't look it up on Google Image Search...

Ok, SickHippie, you sucked me in. I just had to do a Google
Image Search of "DP" just to see what you were on about.
I still fail to get your point. :confused:

Care to enlighten me?

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raiko

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Fulger

Yes, DP is another forum. But it sucks serious butt and is not
worth visiting. Unless, of course, you like getting ripped off.

Ok, SickHippie, you sucked me in. I just had to do a Google
Image Search of "DP" just to see what you were on about.
I still fail to get your point. :confused:

Care to enlighten me?

LOL. You must have Safe Search on.

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Fulger

Care to enlighten me?

In a certain industry, DP means "Double Penetration."
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- Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  Yo, Dadmin!,
  
  Love it.
  
  This will definitely cut down somewhat on the BS one-liners. Me likey. Domo arigato, or whatever the hell Riley says when someone is nice to him. (Does that really happen?)
  
  Like any change, this will fix some problems and create others. I think it will be, overall, very positive. If I might make a suggestion, and assuming it's technically not a nightmare, put in a delay between date of joining and date allowed to post a WSO. Minimum, 2 months. I have some other suggestions, but they'll have to wait until I'm not falling asleep...
  
  Matt,
  
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  As my friend Annie (a lawyer) says, "98% of lawyers give the other 2% a bad name."
  
  Bob's one of the 2%. Except to folks that screw with him.
  
  Don,
  
  Oh well...be able to keep some of the undesirables out I guess...
  
  Nope. Taylor and I are members, too. It's all over but the crying...
  
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Originally Posted by SickHippie

Well, whatever you do, don't look it up on Google Image Search...

You just made me spill my coffee on my keyboard
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  Originally Posted by DavidCarter
  
  You just made me spill my coffee on my keyboard
  
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Julia Andersson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by writetale

ok, who or what is DP? another forum?

DP... Digital Point forum. Some good info available but first you have to sort through all the spam
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Mukul Verma

14 years ago

Nice Move Allen!!!!

Can I make a suggestion? That you cannot post new threads til you have responded to 5 or 10. Aiming to people contributing before asking questions?

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Paul Ransom 14 years ago

I was not aware of the War Room until a few days ago, even though I have been hanging out here for several years. I was going to join anyway as soon as I had some free time to check out the material inside the War Room.

I just hope this will lead to a much better WSO section by forcing out those that are making outrageous, unprovable claims that are junking up the offers lately.

I also hope it does not dilute the quality of the War Room.

Good move.
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Charann Miller

14 years ago

Hey Allen,

I've been meaning to join the war room for some time now and this is great incentive for me, it was just something I always was going to get round to and now I will.

What you offer is worth way more than you're charging considering how much value and knowledge we get from this forum.

I also know that what you decide will only make this forum better for all.

I'm ever grateful.

Sincerely,

Charann.

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countonuspr 14 years ago

I completely respect, understand, and appreciate where you are coming from. This is not a bad price to have the ability to still run good WSO's, setup a good blog, etc. It is well worth every penny. Thanks Allen.
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- David A Smith 14 years ago
  
  Thanks Allen,
  
  I have been very disappointed in the WSO's I have purchased lately and in the Warrior Classified section. I always come here first when I need anything for my marketing and appreciate your efforts in keeping the quality high.
  
  Thanks for keeping the forum going for all of us. I hope all the members here realize how valuable this place can be for their business.
  
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Poppy61

14 years ago

This is a great decision Allen. Congrats!
Also, I second Kevin's views- if you're serious about your IM business and treat it like any other business,investing $37 should not be a problem.

Just upgraded myself and I am sure, it's one of the best decisions I have taken.

Allen,I am definitely going to tell my warrior friends to upgrade and enjoy the very best of warrior forum.

We're with you in making this place number one forum for every IMer.

Can't thank you enough and the entire WF troupe.

Sincerely,
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lakshaybehl

14 years ago

Now, here's a decision that makes me happy.

Thank You, Thank you.

So now we can finally cut down on the lame spammy WSO's.

And only the serious folk can ploay with WSO's. And this also means that everyone has a chance to be mentored by yourself in the sub forum, eh?

But, I still have a question for you Allen.

When you say PM restrictions are gone, do you mean 5 mins between consecutive PM's is also gone? HOw does that work?

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14 years ago

*Thumbs Up*
I upgraded.

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internetmarketer99

14 years ago

A very good, smart move, and greatly appreciated.

Can't tell you how disheartening it's been lately - spend hours posting purely educational 'give-back' threads, answer questions, etc., while having to wade through heaps of worthless, useless spam posts.

I had also pretty much stopped even browsing the WSO board, and I used to buy one or two each week.

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14 years ago

BTW, I'll be the one to say it: it's interesting that what so many 'marketers' teach here, and the best-selling WSO is about, is the same thing the most of us abhor so much on forums we care about and are vested in.

And how many who are applauding this have also posted mucho 'advice' on the strategy of using forum sigs & blogs purely for backlinking...

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14 years ago

Nice Move Sir Allen.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

An excellent move in the right direction...

It winds me up no end these days, that so many new
people in business think that everything can be just
handed to them on a plate, for free.

Before the days of the internet, which I well remember,
being in business for yourself, as I have been since the
very first day I left school at 16 - if you wanted your
business to succeed -- you had to be truly imaginative
to get word out about your products and services.

It wasn't free back then, if you wanted to market yourself,
you had to holler from the rooftops and of course, you
had to pay for the priviledge.

The trouble with this younger generation for a good part is
that they think being in business for yourself, should be easy.

Well... Wake Up and Smell The Roses

Being self employed, running your own business was never
supposed to be easy. It takes dedication, long hours 7 days
a week and a commitment to deliver high quality customer
service for the long term to succeed in business. And that's
just the beginning.

Whatever you want in life, someone, somewhere is paying
for you to lead the life that you think should be just handed
to you on a plate.

Get real! $37 is an absolute pittance, especially now that
the internet has levelled the playing field globally, giving
pretty much anyone, anywhere, the opportunity to learn
and serve the needs of other people well.

If You Cannot Invest $37 in Your Own Future...There is
Something Seriously Wrong With You

This forum, from a consultation perspective, has nuggets
of gold all over the place, just waiting to be picked up for
free. If you are too lazy to take action to go pick up those
nuggets of gold that are lying around everywhere, and you
think that you deserve a free ride - I'm sorry to say it, but
you've got a big problem and that is, your attitude - yourself.

"How much effort can it possibly take to use your mouse,
to click a few keys on a keyboard and have the opportunity
right in front of your eyes, whilst you sit down on your fat
arse, to make some serious money online?"

Without a shadow of doubt, this forum is one of a kind
and it's a forum where the members are truly concerned for
each others welfare and will bend over backwards to help
you, if you just have the desire and the commitment to
learn how to implement a winning strategy... to help
yourself and in turn help others here also. That is the
true spirit of this forum.

One Gentleman Brought This About
His Name is Allen...

Without his vision, without his initial action plan, his ready
and willing spirit to give to others, this forum and your
income producing ability, simply would not be the same.

How anyone can possibly say that they are not getting
tremendous value for money here, truly beats me!

Get off your blinkin' asses and pay up!

You don't mind squandering a few dollars on a coke and a
pizza, or a night on the town drinking a few beers which
you'll piss up against the wall an hour later, your reward a
whopping great hangover in the morning.

You don't mind paying for your latest games online, just to
twiddle your thumbs as you knock out your imaginary
opponent.

You don't mind paying for those music tracks or whatever
else you are spending your money on these days - so why
not adopt the same attitude to invest in your future with
the incredible mind boggling goldmine of information - available
right here at your very own fingertips!

Think about it!

I did!!

Whilst I appreciate that you seem to think anyone here who has income problems is a pointless waste of time, step back and think a minute.

Sometimes circumstances can cause untold financial problems. This is not a whine.

fact 1. I was made redundant, like countless others recently. My real life income gone.

fact 2. Divorce removed another income source.

fact 3. You live to your means.

I now have a £640 a month mortgage and an income of £100 a month unemployment benefit.

fact 4. I can't write to save my life, and need a CV which will cost £59.

I don't buy pizza and coke. I don't have nights on the town, pissing anything against a wall (sort of physically impossible really) and I don't buy online games. BUT, I do have to decide whether I eat this month or buy my CV layout so that I at least have a chance of obtaining an income whilst I work my way around the excellent advice I have received from a forum member.

Finding another $37 this month is nigh on impossible. So, not everyone is here to waste your time just because they 'will not take their business seriously' Some are taking the advice they have been given, implementing it and knowing it will take some weeks to see results, are trying to stay afloat!

Blanket insults are not helpful.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

Sometimes circumstances can cause untold finacial problems.

Check out this thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...our-voice.html

Pay particular attention to Mark Riddle's post from yesterday.

All the market research I've seen on the subject says the most engaging and attractive type of voice to Americans is a female voice with a British accent.

Sound like anyone you know? Like, maybe, you?

Opportunity is everywhere.

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Katie Rich

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

All the market research I've seen on the subject says the most engaging and attractive type of voice to Americans is a female voice with a British accent.

Sound like anyone you know? Like, maybe, you?

Opportunity is everywhere.

OOOHHHH! engaging AND attractive, well, even if it's not true it sure boosted my self esteem

Checking now, thanks.

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kennethtang

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

All the market research I've seen on the subject says the most engaging and attractive type of voice to Americans is a female voice with a British accent.

Sound like anyone you know? Like, maybe, you?

Elizabeth Hurley! Ooooh...

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Oh yeah, the other thing. Allen, great going....

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JohnHuizinga 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

fact 4. I can't write to save my life, and need a CV which will cost £59.

If you wrote this post then you're not giving youself nearly enough credit on your writing abilities.
It doesn't take enormous talent to write up an informative article and attach a resource box that will get people to click through to your presell or the vendor's sales page - just the ability to write clearly. Writing with conviction helps as well and you can obviously do that.
It's possible you may just hate it, in which case it's not the thing for you, but don't let your fifth grade English teacher's opinion of your writing ability stop you from trying.
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Katie Rich

14 years ago

Chomping!

I did read it correctly, and I did take umbrage, however, I was not casting aspersions (two words that I know know how to spell correctly!)

I was simply pointing out that it is not always possible to instantly find what others class as a tiny amount of cash and I think my thanks percentage is pretty reasonable, considering

I AM taking action, but have only just started doing so, even though I have been a member here for years, so I know it will take a while to start to see profits.

I sure didn't mean to imply that you were always unhelpful. Just that I personally found the 'pep talk' so.

/me holds out a hand .... truce??? You can explain what a Brucey bonus is should anyone ask

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

It wasn't a blanket insult to anyone.

If you read it correctly and didn't take such umbrage
to the words, casting an aspersion that simply is not
there, you might have understood the point.

Criticise me when your percentage of thanks on posts
is at least on a par with mine.

If you researched my posts you would see that I love
helping out other people on this forum and often do so
without charging for my services, because I care about
the welfare of other people.

My point, if you want it more simply, is that whilst you
were penning that reply, you could take some action,
that would very easily give you $37 which you could
invest in the War Room... whereupon your investment
would pay for itself, many times over.

If you can't take the action for just over £20 for a full
20 year membership to such a valuable resource of
information, that could earn you easily your mortgage
payments per month and more, as stated, there's
something wrong.

You can't afford not to join The War Room!

Mark, of the got through the last recession in this country
'class', without going under - and is absolutely determined
to hold my head up high in this recession too and succeed
as well as possible.

The only way one is going to do that is by taking the action
required, to get one, where one wants to go.

You have the choice to either quit on action or
take the action that gets you the results that you desire.

Refer to me a client and you get £59 for your cv - simple!

And I'll throw in a Brucey bonus just for you, your War Room
Membership FREE.

Chomp on that.

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14 years ago

You did, you did, you surely did and yes, you did and it is all very much appreciated. But as it was via PM I didn't know if you would want it published here or not.The generosity of fellow warriors amazing.

As is your personal generosity Mark. Many thanks.

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

There's no need for a truce for anything, you are making
it sound as if I was having a dig at you personally, when
that wasn't the case at all.

I apologised immediately afterwards by pm if you found
my comments insulting and I even offered to sponsor you
into the War Room, albeit someone else kindly pipped me
to the post.

I also advised you on how to take effective action, giving
up my time to do so.

On top of that, I pointed you in the right direction to other
resources to save this cv writing fee of £59 ($95) that you
mentioned before.

And on top of that, I have even offered to give you a hand
with writing a sales page (free) to get you moving in the right
direction.

Personally, I think I've been amazingly generous in trying to
help you.

Mark

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bhopkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

I did!!

Whilst I appreciate that you seem to think anyone here who has income problems is a pointless waste of time, step back and think a minute.

Sometimes circumstances can cause untold financial problems. This is not a whine.

fact 1. I was made redundant, like countless others recently. My real life income gone.

fact 2. Divorce removed another income source.

fact 3. You live to your means.

I now have a £640 a month mortgage and an income of £100 a month unemployment benefit.

fact 4. I can't write to save my life, and need a CV which will cost £59.

I don't buy pizza and coke. I don't have nights on the town, pissing anything against a wall (sort of physically impossible really) and I don't buy online games. BUT, I do have to decide whether I eat this month or buy my CV layout so that I at least have a chance of obtaining an income whilst I work my way around the excellent advice I have received from a forum member.

Finding another $37 this month is nigh on impossible. So, not everyone is here to waste your time just because they 'will not take their business seriously' Some are taking the advice they have been given, implementing it and knowing it will take some weeks to see results, are trying to stay afloat!

Blanket insults are not helpful.

Katie, it looks like you are already a war room member. So maybe someone else already stepped up before me. I would pay your fee if you needed it. If you need some extra work, just PM me. I have more than I can do already. Most of it involves writing so that may be difficult if you can't write. but writing is the best way to improve that skill set.

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k0zm0zs0ul

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhopkins

Katie, it looks like you are already a war room member. So maybe someone else already stepped up before me. I would pay your fee if you needed it. If you need some extra work, just PM me. I have more than I can do already. Most of it involves writing so that may be difficult if you can't write. but writing is the best way to improve that skill set.

Bruce

Exactly so! Practice makes perfect Katie, and based on your posts and correspondence I think you could do quite well at writing. At least for the time being to bring in some extra money, it is one of the fastest ways I know of to get started earning a buck quickly.

Kudo's Bruce for offering her overflow.

And I often have overflow as well, so I can keep you on my list too Katie.

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WritingMadwoman

14 years ago

Wow, after that talking to, I'm ready to pay again Mark! (Were you ever a drill sergeant by any chance??) LOL

Seriously, I think this is a great move for the forum Allen.

Wendy

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Get off your blinkin' asses and pay up!

You don't mind squandering a few dollars on a coke and a
pizza, or a night on the town drinking a few beers which
you'll piss up against the wall an hour later, your reward a
whopping great hangover in the morning.

You don't mind paying for your latest games online, just to
twiddle your thumbs as you knock out your imaginary
opponent.

You don't mind paying for those music tracks or whatever
else you are spending your money on these days - so why
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SRLee

14 years ago

I'm serious about IM, but why make it a paid option? I can't pay RM130, yet.

This is so frustrating and depressing...

EDIT: What is the full access? What do I have access now without paying?

Also, reading all the "happy" comments that say "You should pay the money because this is a good forum and you should treat IM like a business...", well not quite. It is cheap to you, but not me. I treat this seriously, but money/currency/credit card is a problem for me.

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kennethtang

14 years ago

Malaysian? Whereabouts?

Originally Posted by SRLee

I'm serious about IM, but why make it a paid option? I can't pay RM130, yet.

This is so frustrating and depressing...

EDIT: What is the full access? What do I have access now without paying?

Also, reading all the "happy" comments that say "You should pay the money because this is a good forum and you should treat IM like a business...", well not quite. It is cheap to you, but not me. I treat this seriously, but money/currency/credit card is a problem for me.

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bwh1

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bwh1

The money to join the War Room isn't the problem.

Where the heck I find the time to actually use the membership besides the other 3 or 4 I "need" to have to get my traffic from :-)

Seriously, I think quality has a value which it's worth paying for, so the decision is 100% correct. Will see to upgrade soon.

WHEN this takes place ? Will there be any price increases ?

G.

PS. Just see what we marketers teach those guy's, WF full of spammers, tststs......

Stupid me, it's a ONE TIME FEE, I thought it was $37 per month (what wouldn't be that far from the value the WAR room delivers).

Just send you the money.

G.

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samstephens

14 years ago

It is cheap to you, but not me.

Remember currency conversion also works the other way round - while buying things may be more "expensive" when some currencies are converted, it also means that you can also make a living much easier than someone from the US.

So while the $37 may be expensive for you, the first $37 you make with your online business is also going to be worth a lot more.

And when we look at our businesses, the aim is to make more money than we spend, and so your currency conversion will actually work in your favour.

I hope this reply is more of an inspiration to pursue your online business, because with your currency conversion, you've got a LOT you can make!

cheers
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Rapido

14 years ago

I've just joined and this is my first post. I
haven't had time to look around the forum
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this thread is anything to go buy, I'm going
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Kevin Birch

14 years ago

Very good news indeed - well done Allen.

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Josh Anderson

14 years ago

Funny thing is that I did not even notice this notice... and just today I paid for one of my associates to join the war room and I convinced a second to upgrade...

Both because I wanted both to see just one valuable thread in the war room.

Anyone who is blind enough to not realize the sheer value of becoming a paid member should hang up their hat because they will never have the sense to make it in online business.

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Matt Fulger

14 years ago

Originally Posted by raiko

LOL. You must have Safe Search on.

ROFL - DOH! You're right. Well, I guess that just goes to show
that NOT everyone has their mind in the gutter. I never put it
together until you pointed it out for me. Now I get it.

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Funny thing is that I did not even notice this notice... and just today I paid for one of my associates to join the war room and I convinced a second to upgrade...

Both because I wanted both to see just one valuable thread in the war room.

Anyone who is blind enough to not realize the sheer value of becoming a paid member should hang up their hat because they will never have the sense to make it in online business.

Josh,

I don't think that people are BLIND to the VALUE of this forum.
It's just that some don't think they can afford it.
Hopefully, those people will read some of the comments here and
take the advice given and skip a night out, or go for a month w/o
cable or something to come up with the measly $37 bucks.
I know I'll be upgrading before the end of the week.

But not everyone can come up with the $37. Or at least they
don't think they can.

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bettersocial

14 years ago

I paid $350 for an exclusive membership to DNF.com

So $37 doesn't seem that big a deal..

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suimiche

14 years ago

Sir! I'm new to forums so, I haven't clear idea about changes. But the thing what I want to know is "Do you allow free members to put a singnature?"

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VegasVince 14 years ago

Beautiful!

And nothing cleans out a closet full of moochers, leeches, and looters....quicker then forcing these bottom feeders to cough up a few bucks.

Too many of them were using the Warrior Forum like a gypsy carnival.....and it about time they pulled up stakes and move their dog and pony show elsewhere.

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Banned 14 years ago

This is just too cool for words...way to go Allen!

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14 years ago

Good work Allen! You have a great forum, here.

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Banned 14 years ago

Well done! The spam and BlackH*t stuff was getting well out of order.

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Richelo Killian

14 years ago

Allen, everyone else has said just about everything there is to say on this subject.

I will just say thanks, and, about time! ;-)

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ademartin

14 years ago

A positive step forward Allen. Thanks.

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yoshiko

14 years ago

I second the decision. Thank you for cleaning up this space. We all need clean "air" to grow!

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14 years ago

Allen....

Thank you

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kswr123

14 years ago

Guys - The monmey is not an issue! The war room is worth FIFTY times more than Alan is charging, and it should be a monthly subscription too!

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Steve Peters Benn

14 years ago

Ahhh! This is fantastic news! The quality of WF versus the 'others' is what keeps me coming back.

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Steadyon

14 years ago

Dear Non War Room Members,

Are you serious about your internet business?

Are you more interested in learning how to make money or just learning for the sake of it?

I am not trying to sound condescending, but you need to listen carefully:

If you are serious about your attempts to make money online then you should join the War Room.

It only costs $37.

If that seems like too much for you then think again.

If you are just a kid and don't earn any money, get your mom or dad to buy it for you.

Better yet, wash some cars for the weekend and pay for it yourself. This will do you a world of good. You will be putting in place the right mindset about investing in your own future.

If you really don't want to pay $37 then please look at where you waste this amount or more each week in your life.

The War Room isn't perfect, nothing is, but there are many golden nuggets of knowledge in there.

Do yourself a favour and get serious or move onto fresh pastures. No one will hold it against you if you are being honest with yourself. Just make a decision and either way, take ACTION.

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MeTellYou

14 years ago

The forum is WELL worth it. Thakns Allen.
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sannyman

14 years ago

Dear Allen, the only thing that scares me is that the War Room will be too crowded

For our fellow warriors that complain about the amount to be paid, I can only tell this: nobody forces you to pay, it is your decision if YOU NEED paid member's features or not. Do you smoke or drink? I bet you will find a way to get money for this... Are you WF forum addicted? Well, we will see...

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TristanPerry

14 years ago

Sounds good

With such a massive forums I guess there will always be a problem with people spam-linking their site. Will aim to upgrade a bit later on today.

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Fernando Veloso

14 years ago

Thanks Allen, great news!! I was getting tired of hitting report button last weeks.

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14 years ago

Wow, I am glad I had already joined the war room.

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14 years ago

This is great news. Way to go.

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14 years ago

This is awesome!

On a selfish and personal level, I am extremely happy I had the good sense to lock into the War Room when it was being offered at such a generous price in the early days.

I think this is such a great way to protect the quality of the forum whilst still giving free members some access.

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14 years ago

Thank you Allen! It was needed.

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14 years ago

This is the way forward! I can't agree more that when you said those who pay for something will appreciate what you have paid. Excellent decision to weed out spammers and to protect those who are serious and genuine.

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TristanPerry

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

A Complete masterstroke of genius Allen. Great call there. I was beginning to think these "spammers" want to turn WF into another DP...and yet you have shown once again that you truly care about this forum as a whole.

Thankyou Allen

Best news in years !!!!!!

Definitely worth the $37 fee just to avoid this happening

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Suzanne Morrison

14 years ago

Thanks Allen. I think $37 is very small price for access to this great forum and all its benefits!

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Gene Pimentel

14 years ago

Allen, thanks a million for making this move. It can only improve the quality of information while helping to eliminate nonsense. THANK YOU!

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SRLee

14 years ago

Hi there Sam, I know I earn it easier, but the things here in my country is almost the same as in the US. $37 can buy an average of 13 McD-RM10 meals. And the meals are exactly the same as they are being sold in the US.

To all others that say "$37 is a good investment". I do agree, but I'll have to fork out another RM130 from my parents. Which is like, hard you see. "-_-

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by SRLee

Hi there Sam, I know I earn it easier, but the things here in my country is almost the same as in the US. $37 can buy an average of 13 McD-RM10 meals. And the meals are exactly the same as they are being sold in the US.

Hi Shaun,

RM is Malaysian, is that right?

That's rough about the cost of McDonalds as compared to general income. In Australia, a Big Mac meal costs about RM18.

Having said that, I'd much rather eat Malaysian food than Macca's - you've got some great cuisine (and scuba diving, from what I hear).

If cost of living is quite expensive, then I guess my comments don't apply - sorry for the confusion!

Best of luck with your business, though - I'm sure you'll be buying as many Big Macs as you want in the future!

cheers
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kennethtang 14 years ago

Originally Posted by samstephens

Having said that, I'd much rather eat Malaysian food

Ahh, spoken like someone who knows his food. Malaysian food number 1in the world. But I'm biased.
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Chuck Evans

14 years ago

Allen, like Steven I was "grandfathered" into the War Room. I'd like to anty up as well...please let us know how we can do so without screwing up the works!

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MikeHumphreys

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pete Egeler

All the best with your new forum.

I paid to join in the first place. Won't do it again.

Pete

Allen, if I can make a suggestion? I'm already a War Room member and my suggestion doesn't gain me a thing but I'm still going to say it because I think it's an idea worth considering.

Perhaps your longest standing members, especially those that joined when this was a paid-only forum, have earned the right to a free War Room upgrade or a different title like 'Legacy Member' or 'Charter Member'?

I'm thinking of folks like Robert Puddy, Willie Crawford, Marlon, Paul Myers, and many others that have shared their priceless advice with all those that have since followed in their footsteps.

It's folks like the original Warriors who helped many of the current "top" Warriors (whatever top means to you) when they were wet behind the ears beginners themselves. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing them getting some additional props for all of their years of helping the rest of us.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeHumphreys

Allen, if I can make a suggestion? I'm already a War Room member and my suggestion doesn't gain me a thing but I'm still going to say it because I think it's an idea worth considering.

Perhaps your longest standing members, especially those that joined when this was a paid-only forum, have earned the right to a free War Room upgrade or a different title like 'Legacy Member' or 'Charter Member'?

I'm thinking of folks like Robert Puddy, Willie Crawford, Marlon, Paul Myers, and many others that have shared their priceless advice with all those that have since followed in their footsteps.

It's folks like the original Warriors who helped many of the current "top" Warriors (whatever top means to you) when they were wet behind the ears beginners themselves. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing them getting some additional props for all of their years of helping the rest of us.

Take care,

Mike

I agree with Mike. I think the real old timers deserve something for all
they've given to this forum. I can't begin to tell you how many of those
members have helped me since I've joined just a few short years ago.

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David McKee

14 years ago

Welcome everyone I have upgraded and the reason is clear - this forum is worth its weight in gold - and I mean literal gold.

I believe this will make it even more valuable. Thanks Allen!

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R Hagel

14 years ago

I like what Allen said in another post:

We're already getting help desk complaints that are very ironic.

Someone doing enough action and business on here to be dealing with tons of PM's a day is going to gripe about this?

Let me get this straight - you are making money here and doing good business but yet you don't want to be a full member?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And for those folks who don't have the $37 ... I can understand that. I was once in a position where I literally had to look for change in my couch just to come up with the few dollars to buy milk. It's embarrassing to buy milk with pennies. Eventually I even ran out of change.

So, I've been there, done that... and I KNOW it's possible to overcome it.

First, shake off any notion that it's impossible. Start by going to the Mind Warriors section. Make some goals -- some as small as the $37 needed to upgrade, and other larger goals (e.g., how much you want to make per month). Write them down. Commit to them.

Then come back to the main discussion forum and figure out a plan to achieve those goals. Read through all the "I need to make $XXXX" posts, as they tended to be loaded with plans for quick money-makers. If you put your mind to it, create a plan AND take action... you could have the $37 to upgrade by the end of today.

BTW -- if you just read that above line and disagreed with me -- if you had a knee jerk "no way!" reaction -- please proceed to the Mind Warriors forum. Don't pass Go. Don't collect $200.

Cheers,
Becky

P.S. Once you get the cash injection you need to have a little breathing room, then start building a business. In other words, don't do "money makers" forever, as that's exhausting. It's much easier to leverage your assets (such as a list) by building a business.

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Melody

14 years ago

This is terrific! I was a paid member, as a hosting client of Allen, and then paid to join the WarRoom. I have never minded paying when asked here, because I have ALWAYS received far more value than Allen has ever asked monetarily.

Kudos on this decision!!

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Michael Mayo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JustinK

20 years subscription o.0 for 37$?
So does this mean we cant post in wso with the regular 20$ but if we are members we get to post them for free?

Here is how it works.

You are presently a non-paid member here in the Warrior Forum so you have limited features available.

You only allowed 10 PMs.
You may not post a WSO.
You won't have access to the War Room which contains some of the best
information and products on the web.

I'm Not sure what other limits there are.

If you become a member of the War Room by paying the $37 entry fee
then you will become a Full Warrior Forum Member.

You will be allowed 400 PMs.
You will be allow to post WSOs for an additional $20 per WSO.
You will have access to one of the Best Memberships on the Net at a ridiculously low price.

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

It was a paid forum when I first joined. It was then,and still is probably one of the best online investments I have ever made.
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14 years ago

Got me off the fence on joining the War Room

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14 years ago

Thank You! Great Idea!

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MizzCindy

14 years ago

$37 seems an excellent investment to make in exchange for access to so much powerful marketing information uncluttered by spam. If this move helps maintain the integrity of the forum, then I'm all for it!

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14 years ago

Awesome news!

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Scott Ames

14 years ago

YES!!!

I"ve noticed those spammers with zero posts creating blog after blog for spamming and indexing too. They were starting to get to me. This is a positive move.

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muhammad arif

14 years ago

In my opinion such decisions will boost the forum, like we will get some more active members.

And hopefully will make warrior forum as a better palce for web masters.

Thanks for it.

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mrsteady

14 years ago

I am a member that you will be losing because of this.

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Originally Posted by mrsteady

I am a member that you will be losing because of this.

I understand. Quite a few feel the same way. Good luck with whatever you do.

I am curious though, what exactly has changed for you?

Less private message storage space would actually make you leave?

Is it because you can't post a WSO as a free member?

The truth is if anyone else owned this forum the cost to run a WSO would have been at least $100 quite some time ago. So I wouldn't think that would be the reason.

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geoffcruz

14 years ago

whew its a good thing im already a war room member!

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Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

Excellent news. And BTW, if I were Allen I'd also raise the price of a WSO significantly.

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4morereferrals 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

Excellent news. And BTW, if I were Allen I'd also raise the price of a WSO significantly.

Id also make the WSO forum a PAID section of the site, just to see the offers!!!

That forum has become like shooting fish in a barrel for the warez/share/black-h-a-t crowd.

Just a thought.

It might take the time your wso product ends up on media fire or other douchebag forums as a free download from 20 seconds to 5 days ... A guy might b able to cover the w so cost and a few bumps before he's being stolen blind.
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- jitterbug978 14 years ago
  
  Yea I know what you mean about "A certain Forum" putting up our downloads and it does suck.
  
  BUT if the WSO was paid to read only then that would drastically cut down on the amount of overall sales you would make.
  
  Piracy will always be an issue... Even if it is paid members only who says a paid member wont repost the WSO elsewhere?
  
  I think making the WSO section paid only would be detrimental.
  
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dorim 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

Excellent news. And BTW, if I were Allen I'd also raise the price of a WSO significantly.

I agree the price of a WSO should be raised, maybe that will cut down on the junk WSOs being offered. I am very cautious about purchasing WSOs because most of the ones I have purchased were worthless in my opinion, some just re-writes of PLR content freely available from a free membership site I belong to.
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deanfz

14 years ago

Eventhough I am not a war room member and still have to upgrade my account in order to have access to all the possibilities I think that this is a great idea. It will make the forum much better. And to the people that are complaining about this: Even if the upgraded membership would cost 100$ it would still be more than acceptabel. just look at what you got here. You can ask everything that you need to ask and get helped by some great IMers.

I will upgrade in the next days I think.

Greetings
D.

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TiffanyLambert

14 years ago

Hey Allen?

Is there a way I can buy a membership for a friend as a gift? I clicked the link but it would order my own and I'm already War Room... let me know!
tiff

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seasoned

14 years ago

WOW! THANKS! I always kind of hated the fact that some got here without even paying you a penny, etc... The fact that so many give ways to rip people off, etc... certainly didn't help.

Anyway, this will help a LOT!

Steven Wagenheim,

You probably took advantage of what I did. An empty room wouldn't sell well. ALSO, he needed some good press. So some of the members that had a history were allowed by allen to have it for free, for a time. For the record though, I paid for a product, I believe it was called warrior pro, and this was included. I since made a few other purchases. So I didn't come here for NOTHING.

And people will misread or not see the price, so sales will be a LOT lower than they would otherwise be.

Steve

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Noah Fleming

14 years ago

Great move Allen. Happy to see this.

Noah

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TeamGlobal 14 years ago

Outstanding News!

I'm always happy to see the Warrior Forum evolve as needed.

All The Very Best,

Tony
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Jamie Orman

14 years ago

No more spammers? Thank God.

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Melvin Truth Holloway

14 years ago

Well, I guess this means I need to get serious about not losing my password and forgetting what email I used so I won't have to start over again. lol.

I am ready to sign up. That's a good price for 20 years. I will be sure to upgrade again when I am 52 years old.

Thanks for looking out for the quality of the Warrior Forum!

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Shakul

14 years ago

Going to join it soon.

I am sure, now we will find more quality wsos.

I have seen people here selling ripoff guides here as a wso, since now it is required to be a war room member to post a wso, so this will keep all those wso scammers away.

Very good step taken.

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darvon 14 years ago

This forum is the best place to learn internet marketing. Those that would abuse should be publicly caned.
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RichardDean

14 years ago

Hello,

Allen

The WSO needs to have higher standard, Over all marketers in general
need to have higher standard, but that is another problem.

Offers need to have less hype and explain more in detail of what you get
if a ebook how many pages should be a rule. The table of contents
need to be included in the wso ad every time.

If you have not done it don't try to sell it rule.

The WSO might need to be raised up to 30 to 50 bucks to keep the
trash out, no more cheap items for sale.

If you pay 50 bucks and try to sell a 7 dollar book you need to sell
over 7 to break even, these little reports now need to have a lot more
content then sold for say 27.00 that raises the bar to produce a better
product.

I would like to see a higher post count say 300 or 500 before a wso
can be made, even the thank you count be added in there also, to cover
the junk post spammers who try to get a fast 300 post.

If you want to raise it do it right

Richard Dean

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rmholla

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pete Egeler

All the best with your new forum.

I paid to join in the first place. Won't do it again.

Pete

Pete,

I'm with you. I became a Warrior all those years ago and paid money to do it. Then came along the private posts and I paid for them though I was miffed because I thought my payment all those years ago was for "lifetime" access -- which apparently has a very different definition in cyberspace.

Some of us took a chance on Allen all those years ago. This isn't about the money, it is about standing on principle. I didn't mind the fees to list WSOs because that really is/was a sort of add on bonus feature that was never mentioned originally. But access to all the private warrior stuff was -- or at least that is the way it was laid out when I became a warrior.

Rhonda

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Administrator 14 years ago

Originally Posted by rmholla

Pete,

I'm with you. I became a Warrior all those years ago and paid money to do it. Then came along the private posts and I paid for them though I was miffed because I thought my payment all those years ago was for "lifetime" access -- which apparently has a very different definition in cyberspace.

Some of us took a chance on Allen all those years ago. This isn't about the money, it is about standing on principle. I didn't mind the fees to list WSOs because that really is/