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Unread 23rd Jun 2014, 01:14 AM   #51
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Hi Alaister,

I love the way you in particular attend to many of the issues I've seen raised since freelancer took over. It's great to see that kind of hands-on service. Thomas with Support seems to be on the ball too.

Now, I should point out that you're also swimming in a gold mine of ideas with over 700K internet marketers (not all are savvy but I'm sure many tens of thousands are) and just one idea from Yukon could easily double or triple income from the site. I think Yukon was way too generous with that one lol... but good one him/her for being more concerned about helping everyone here and the WF out with a superb concept.

Then others have added a couple more ideas that are awesome too, The ads under the "Post reply" concept is genius too. You really shouldn't waive them aside because we would all be losing out.

By the way, I would expect that you can actually end up charging MORE for certain forums because they will get better results than others even all being targeted. So an ad in the offline section will do well being targeted there, but ads in the main section may make money because that forum gets more traffic etc so keeping it at a flat $13 or whatever rate would not be maximizing your profits. Not saying blow the ad costs to the heavens, but consider testing different price points etc. Or just keep at one price, that's fine too, just saying... you could even increase profits without ruining advertiser experience.

Off topic advice... set up a warrior forum activity/competition whatever for the best ideas from warrior members that will help the forum help others better (since they know the users better than you could--they ARE the users AND are marketing masterminds---you get a double whammy here, and once the forum can actually help us all better, the effect would easily triple your profits within a year.

For instance, some recent changes made by the forum are just killing the experience and costing you visitors, trust me on that, you own the site but if you come in and start turning things around without checking out the possible effects you'll lose more than you gain.

Some sub-forums were moved recently without notice, one of them was the best forum in here! I was told by Thomas it's still around but neither he nor I could find it! Terrible user experience that stopped me coming here as often as I normally did. It's just one and thing and just one person but consider that I may be representing tens of thousands of others who said nothing? That simple move may already have cost more than you may know now or later.

In any case, I think making changes by brainstorming in-house is OK if that's what you've been doing, but you're dealing with truly savvy marketers here, many are multi-millionaires from web marketing and are silent about it... tap into the brains of these people and maximizing user experience and your profits will be much easier than anything you're likely doing now. Just another idea;-)

Keep up the good aspects of your input though, I love your own customer-centric approach in particular and think it can only be improved on from here.

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So, no one in here has any issue sending $100 without any traffic stats or info regarding the ad spot? I don't think there's any place on the net where you're asked to send $100 and that's it. At least you could help people understand what they're buying by showing us some stats: impressions, average CTR, and of course click geos and so on would be quite mandatory as well.

You've created some great forums related to growth hacking, conversion rate optimization, so asking for people to blindly pay $100 for a media buy looks too middle age really :-)

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thank you so much
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i know that new banner ad system are very important ad.so very good banner is good marketing...
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Would help if it is working. I have been trying to create a banner ad for an hour now and every time I upload it I get redirected and have to start all over again. FRUSTRATING!
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So the footer ads have disappeared.

I know I saw some ads run and I wonder if they advertiser got any clicks for if they forum is reworking the ad placement on the page.

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Top Ads:
Great news! except now you have taken away the ability for the advertiser to CHOOSE when to start the ad. Would be great if after approval there was a way to say, start my ad on "this" available slot (first come, first serve naturally)

Some advertisers time the banner to other activities and want to know/control the minute the clock starts running.

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Originally Posted by mediaadvantages View Post

Would help if it is working. I have been trying to create a banner ad for an hour now and every time I upload it I get redirected and have to start all over again. FRUSTRATING!
Are you still experiencing issues? Send a PM with more information about the errors you're experiencing and I'll help you get it working.
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I'm not getting an error, its just redirecting like I pointed out. I click to upload the image, it automatically redirects away from the advertising page and goes to the home page. Thats it.
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Originally Posted by rizy View Post

One Very Important Thing:

There should only be one ad allowed per link/product.

Because some people clearly have larger budgets and buy 5+ spots per day. This creates monopoly and in short term WF will profit from it but in long term people would stop paying attention to that ad space because they would that it's the same thing over and over again.
I think that is a very good point being made.

If we have someone always buying half the ad spots, those ads show more regularly, members see them more regularly and thus banner blindness starts to click in and effects other advertisers.

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Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

At the time of posting, your current banner ads are being swamped with this one:



It accounts for 7 out of your 11 banners.

Forum users really will develop banner blindness if this continues.
I think this member might have bought several spots in the Banner Ads because most of the time I only see this ad.....

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We've made an update to the banner ad system. A lot of you have provided feedback in regards to buying ads for a longer period than just 1 day. We have enabled that functionality. You're able to now purchase 3 days and 7 days worth of ads.

https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner
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Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

We've made an update to the banner ad system. A lot of you have provided feedback in regards to buying ads for a longer period than just 1 day. We have enabled that functionality. You're able to now purchase 3 days and 7 days worth of ads.

https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner
Alaister, Thanks for that
If I am not wrong there was an option of buying Ad for 1 week and 1 month as well long time ago. (Maybe check with Thomas in support)

I would suggest you to look into that as well and offer some sort of discounts for buying monthly banner ads.

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https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner is just loading with a blank white page. *Update* Now it says "internal server error*

Does this happen when all banner spots are full or is this an error?

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https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner is just loading with a blank white page. *Update* Now it says "internal server error*

Does this happen when all banner spots are full or is this an error?
Hi Jerry,

This shouldn't happen. This is an error. I checked the page on my end and it works. Would you be able to take a screenshot of what you see. What browser are you using?

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By the way, I created an ad finally and paid for it and was told I would be notified when it was approved. I would assume it doesn't take that much time to get notified if it is approve, you don't have that many ads. Second, at no point was I able to choose a date or anything, shouldn't you be showing people options for dates before they pay for the ad? I don't know who came up with this new system but it is lacking in many ways.
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Hi Jerry,

This shouldn't happen. This is an error. I checked the page on my end and it works. Would you be able to take a screenshot of what you see. What browser are you using?

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Alaister,

This must have been a temporary error and is now working! I have submitted two banner ads and am very happy with the new banner ad system! I had wanted to place banner ads before but never could use the old system successfully. Yours works great now and I appreciate you and your team making the updates!

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Alaister,

This must have been a temporary error and is now working! I have submitted two banner ads and am very happy with the new banner ad system! I had wanted to place banner ads before but never could use the old system successfully. Yours works great now and I appreciate you and your team making the updates!
That's great to hear Jerry!
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May god bless you lol.

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It's been many days since i submitted banner however i dont get any update on approval?
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So is there no way to know how far booked you are until after we have paid?

I mean, if after the approval and you say are ad will go live 21 days from now, and we need it for a promotion in the next 2 days, can we then cancel?

So, I guess I am saying scheduling would be an awesome addition as well

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This a great addition to the warrior forum! I will be testing these banners soon...
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Coach Comeback definitely got a point. +1 on this.

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Thank you for the feedback everyone. We're working on improving this system and making it more usable for you.

We have also decided to remove the design restraints on the banner ads that can be used. A lot of people have been asking for this and have submitted other banners. You can now use any colors or graphics in your banners.

We still have the right to refuse banners if they are offensive, competitive or inappropriate.

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Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

Thank you for the feedback everyone. We're working on improving this system and making it more usable for you.

We have also decided to remove the design restraints on the banner ads that can be used. A lot of people have been asking for this and have submitted other banners. You can now use any colors or graphics in your banners.

We still have the right to refuse banners if they are offensive, competitive or inappropriate.

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Does this include animated banners?
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This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
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This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
2nd vote for this.

I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

Would be nice to have that back again

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2nd vote for this.

I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

Would be nice to have that back again
3rd vote for this. I'm with comeback and traveling guy

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Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
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2nd vote for this.

I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

Would be nice to have that back again
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3rd vote for this. I'm with comeback and traveling guy
Thanks for the feedback guys. We're working on creating this page to show all the banners that are currently in rotation. We've change the system so it's not as straight forward as it was before. We'll keep you updated.
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We have now created a page which shows all the current ads being run. You can view this page by clicking "View All" under the top and bottom banners.

Here is the page that shows all the banners running in the top spot:
https://payments.warriorforum.com/li...rs/warrior_top

Here is the page that shows all the banners running in the bottom spot:
https://payments.warriorforum.com/li...warrior_bottom
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Hey Aliester, I sent you an PM days ago regarding a banner ad refund.

You scheduled me for 21st when the launch was on 18th .

I even created a support ticket and yet no response.

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Hey Aliester, I sent you an PM days ago regarding a banner ad refund.

You scheduled me for 21st when the launch was on 18th .

I even created a support ticket and yet no response.

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Hi Sam,

I've just sent you a PM to sort out your issue.
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I noticed that in addition to the banners being shown there is another banner by the Warrior Forum which appears often. It is entitled: "Advertise Here! Get your business in front of thousands" That is an advertisement being shown IN ADDITION to the 11 ads already in rotation which means LESS ad exposure for advertisers. I can't believe advertisers were not informed by this damaging change.
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I noticed that in addition to the banners being shown there is another banner by the Warrior Forum which appears often. It is entitled: "Advertise Here! Get your business in front of thousands" That is an advertisement being shown IN ADDITION to the 11 ads already in rotation which means LESS ad exposure for advertisers. I can't believe advertisers were not informed by this damaging change.
Hi Ben,

There are only 11 ads in rotation right now. The Warrior Forum ad that reads "Advertise Here!" has replaced one of the ads shown on that "View All" page. This is due to a refund request from that advertiser.

The ad that has been replaced is this one:

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I wonder how advertisers are doing with the color in their ads. That would be nice to know. I however, somehow don't like the color in the ads. It just seems like all the other forums now. hmm

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Can somebody tell me how many views can i expect from one banner in the top of the forum for 24hrs please ? I don't care about the CTR (Click-through-rate), only the numbers of views i can expect from that spot for 24hrs.
Any WF member tried that, his help will be appreciated .

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Can somebody tell me how many views can i expect from one banner in the top of the forum for 24hrs please ? I don't care about the CTR (Click-through-rate), only the numbers of views i can expect from that spot for 24hrs.
Any WF member tried that, his help will be appreciated .
Impossible to tell. It does not actually track the number of views. Only way to tell is by tracking the clicks. I average about 100-200 clicks per day depending on the ad and the day. Not sure what everyone else is getting so no clue if that is above or below average.

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On a different note, I just have to say... although I appreciate all the new changes and updates you are making, and there are no way to know how things will work out until you try them..............

The new system has some serious drawbacks.

My personal experience:

So I asked the question before of how the heck do we know when the ad will go live until after we pay? That was not answered so it makes it really tough to plan a campaign around the advertisement.

Actual numbers:

-I submitted and paid for my ad 10 days ago.

-Less than 24 hours I got the approval email (AWESOME )

-The date to be approved, Aug 31st - 9 days later (not so awesome )

-Today is the 31st. 430pm est as I write this ....Ad still not running (even less awesomer )

-Sent support ticket asking what happened, maybe I got my dates crossed. It happens.

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Hello James,

I am sorry, but I cannot tell you the exact time but it will go live today as soon as there is a free spot available.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks and Kind Regards
What?!?!?!

So lets recap the new system:

You pay ahead of time now.

No clue how many people are in the cue ahead of you

No clue what day your ad will go live

Not even a clue on about what TIME your ad will go live....

hmmmmm

Overall, my experiences with the results from banner ads have been positive. But until some of this confusion gets sorted out... it just doesn't make good business sense for me to use this anymore.

Shame really.

I hope user feedback is what you were hoping for as requested in this thread. Just hoping this helps get a feel for what ad users hope and expect.

Thanks for all your effort so far.

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Impossible to tell. It does not actually track the number of views. Only way to tell is by tracking the clicks. I average about 100-200 clicks per day depending on the ad and the day. Not sure what everyone else is getting so no clue if that is above or below average.

================

On a different note, I just have to say... although I appreciate all the new changes and updates you are making, and there are no way to know how things will work out until you try them..............

The new system has some serious drawbacks.

My personal experience:

So I asked the question before of how the heck do we know when the ad will go live until after we pay? That was not answered so it makes it really tough to plan a campaign around the advertisement.

Actual numbers:

-I submitted and paid for my ad 10 days ago.

-Less than 24 hours I got the approval email (AWESOME )

-The date to be approved, Aug 31st - 9 days later (not so awesome )

-Today is the 31st. 430pm est as I write this ....Ad still not running (even less awesomer )

-Sent support ticket asking what happened, maybe I got my dates crossed. It happens.

Reply from support


What?!?!?!

So lets recap the new system:

You pay ahead of time now.

No clue how many people are in the cue ahead of you

No clue what day your ad will go live

Not even a clue on about what TIME your ad will go live....

hmmmmm

Overall, my experiences with the results from banner ads have been positive. But until some of this confusion gets sorted out... it just doesn't make good business sense for me to use this anymore.

Shame really.

I hope user feedback is what you were hoping for as requested in this thread. Just hoping this helps get a feel for what ad users hope and expect.

Thanks for all your effort so far.
Hi James,

Thank you for this. We're looking to improve the banner advertising system. Can you email me or PM me your ticket ID. I will get back to you when your ad will be running.
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Started running at about 10pm est today. So it is running now :-)

Thank you

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Started running at about 10pm est today. So it is running now :-)

Thank you
Ok thanks James. Send me the ticket anyway. I'll be looking to see what we can do to improve our process and support.

Thank you
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Ok thanks James. Send me the ticket anyway. I'll be looking to see what we can do to improve our process and support.

Thank you
Sent the ticket via private message. Thank you.

I hope you understand this message was not to be negative at all.

It is just that most advertisers plan launches and campaigns and the timing of the ads become critical if it is not just an evergreen ad that can run at any time.

With the uncertainty of when the ad will ever without sitting on the forum and hitting refresh... there is really no way to build a campaign around this advertising (at the moment) for time specific events.

In the old way it was a bit similar... but still a bit better for me.

Once your ad was approved (without paying) you just had to watch the ads page (hitting refresh) until you saw one drop off, they you paid and took their spot and you were live immediately

At least that way you had control of when the ad went live. Seems to be the lesser of 2 evils to me.

Just my opinion

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Hello, I have bought the banner Ad on Warriorforum by paypal.
But still dont see the banner in rotation neither have any information regarding statistics.
Please guide me if there is any advertise panel where I can see the status of my ad.

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curious if there is a way of predicting when (if ever) a banner ad will be accepted and added to the rotation. For instance: I click on the link showing current ads (it shows 5 active banners). I added, paid via paypal, was sent a message that said I would be told when it went live...

is there any way to predict when an advertisement would go live?

100us isnt more than I might be playing at a blackjack table or other game at a casino...
but this isn't a casino game for me (or I imagine many of us...) so having knowledge of how many cards are in the deck is a critical issue for me (and I imagine many of us...)

I want desperately (and can pay readily) for the 7 day (or more) banner- but will not lay out that kind of money until I know the odds of the game (a one day banner ad will tell me PLENTY- certainly enough data to understand if a 7 day (700us) layout is positive or negative expectation...)

any help would be certainly appreciated!!!
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curious if there is a way of predicting when (if ever) a banner ad will be accepted and added to the rotation. For instance: I click on the link showing current ads (it shows 5 active banners). I added, paid via paypal, was sent a message that said I would be told when it went live...

is there any way to predict when an advertisement would go live?

100us isnt more than I might be playing at a blackjack table or other game at a casino...
but this isn't a casino game for me (or I imagine many of us...) so having knowledge of how many cards are in the deck is a critical issue for me (and I imagine many of us...)

I want desperately (and can pay readily) for the 7 day (or more) banner- but will not lay out that kind of money until I know the odds of the game (a one day banner ad will tell me PLENTY- certainly enough data to understand if a 7 day (700us) layout is positive or negative expectation...)

any help would be certainly appreciated!!!
Hi there,

There is a total of 11 banner ad spots at the top of the forum, so right now since there are only 5 ads running, your ad will run immediately, provided it is approved.

We don't approve ads that promote illegal products or offers, competing offers or inappropriate material.

We do have the right to reject any ad we deem unsuitable. In this instance the funds will be sent back to the advertiser.
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Alaister, just tried using the 'renew' option (great touch btw), but it doesn't work, when I hit pay, it just won't redirect me to pp

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Alaister, just tried using the 'renew' option (great touch btw), but it doesn't work, when I hit pay, it just won't redirect me to pp

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Hi Igor,

Do you get an error message?
Send me an email with what happens when you press renew.
We'll sort this out.

In the meantime you may have to manually upload your ad again and make payment.

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nope, simply didn't go to paypal... when I click on "proceed" nothing happens, specifically on the "renew screen', I resubmitted the banner from scratch and it worked.

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