New Banner Ad System

by Alaister 106 replies
Hi everyone,

We have been working on a new banner ad system which will allow scheduling of ads and a way for us to add additional ad space. This is a new system for members to interact with uploading and paying for banners as well as a new way to serve the advertising.

Here is how the system will work:

1) A member will upload their banner and select their advertising options. Once it has been uploaded they will be prompted to make payment.
2) Once payment has been made the banner will go into a new queue for approval. This will be in our new ad serving system.
3) If approved, the banner will be scheduled to run when the next available spot becomes free. The advertiser will be sent an email with the day their ad will go live.
4) If the banner is rejected the payment will be automatically released back to the member

We are keeping the top ad inventory as is, with 11 available spots for now. It will be 11 spots per day which is evenly rotated.

We've added additionally banner ad space at the bottom of the site and are charging $50/day for these ads. There will be a total of 11 banner spots at the bottom also.

You can purchase banner advertising on Warrior Forum here:

https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner
#warrior forum news #banner #system
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Louis
    Thanks for doing this! It's a much more efficient way of handling advertising and it removes that extra step of having to log back in ASAP after approval to confirm payment...

    Now if you can get approvals/rejections to happen faster we will really be making progress
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Anton Louis View Post

      Thanks for doing this! It's a much more efficient way of handling advertising and it removes that extra step of having to log back in ASAP after approval to confirm payment...

      Now if you can get approvals/rejections to happen faster we will really be making progress
      Yeh we'll be working on the speed of approvals and rejections.

      Thanks
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  • Do we need to resubmit ads if they were pending prior to this update?

    Notice you have removed the ability to see all adverts via link bottom right of the ad space, this was a cool feature which I first suggested within the suggestion form.

    Problem now is that just as you click off a page you see an ad but you can't get back to it because the page refreshes with new ad.

    You have reduced traffic for your advertisers in preference of your own.
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    • Profile picture of the author geolocal
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Notice you have removed the ability to see all adverts via link bottom right of the ad space, this was a cool feature which I first suggested within the suggestion form.

      Problem now is that just as you click off a page you see an ad but you can't get back to it because the page refreshes with new ad.

      You have reduced traffic for your advertisers in preference of your own.
      I agree with this, it's very helpful to see all the ads so that if you want to get back to it, you can. Plus it's helpful to see what banners are in the same rotation and what kind of ads people are running. That $10K banner must be doing really well to occupy 4+ banner spots daily!

      Sharon
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Do we need to resubmit ads if they were pending prior to this update?

      Notice you have removed the ability to see all adverts via link bottom right of the ad space, this was a cool feature which I first suggested within the suggestion form.

      Problem now is that just as you click off a page you see an ad but you can't get back to it because the page refreshes with new ad.

      You have reduced traffic for your advertisers in preference of your own.
      Yeh unfortunately you will need to resubmit your banner ads if you uploaded one to the previous system.

      Could you clarify your second point?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alaister
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        The advertisers would have a better conversion rate If they could target specific sub-forums. Currently none of the ads are targeting same niche traffic, it's all random product ads.

        Think Google Adwords, target traffic that's looking for the advertised product.

        Example, traffic in the Website Design sub-forum should see ads for web developers for hire because people in the Web Design forum need help with web design, they're not looking for the random ads that are currently showing up (How to make $10,000!, etc... ( nonsense)).

        Focus on the traffics needs & the advertisers will get higher conversion rates which will cause the advertisers to compete with each other for laser focused ad space that has a good conversion rate.

        BTW, nobody in their right mind would buy that footer ad because it's basically hidden where traffic won't find it. The hot spot for CTR is the top of the page (above the fold).

        Again your wasting header space that could be used for a better purpose (ex: targeted ad space):

        [edit]
        Lets do some math & see how much money Warrior Forum is losing out on by allowing sitewide advertising instead of targeted sub-forum advertising.

        With 11 advertisers ($100 each) targeting the top banner space your maxed out at $1,100 revenue per day, without targeting any traffic (random ads).

        If Warrior Forum allowed advertisers to target sub-forums that's at least 34 sub-forums, not counting things like the OT forum, etc... So now advertisers have 34 laser targeted traffic sources.

        Now allow only 5 advertisers max per day per each sub-forum (creates competition to buy ad space). Drop the per day advertising fee down to $13 per day (stay with me on this). Lets assume WF has sold all advertising slots because everyone can afford to spend $13.

        Now WF income has doubled at $2,210 per day, advertisers are happy because they're only rotating ads with 4 competition instead of 10 competition. Traffic CTR is increased because the ads are targeting what they need/want.

        No doubt it will take a few months to fill all the $13 ad slots but the long term advertising money is a better deal for WF because you're no longer maxed out at $1,100 per day (top ad space).

        This example allows WF to potentially profit an additional +$400,000 per year assuming you keep the ad slots filled which should be easy considering you already have the contact info for every forum member that's sold a product/service on Warrior Forum (ad slot promotion).

        Even If you only filled 50% of the sub-forum ad slots (worst case scenario) at $13 per advertiser (day) you would still earn the same $1,100 that your earning today with irrelevant ads (poor user experience).

        Obviously play with the numbers but keep the advertising cost low with targeted traffic & more advertisers will keep the ad slots filled which could help create a waiting list for future advertisers.
        I like the idea of targeted ads. This was never possible before but now we have the ad serving platform this is something we can explore.

        We'll also be sorting out the register banner at the top.

        Thanks for the ideas Yukon.

        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Remove the posting rules box (or just move it down) and put the banners right under the text box for quick replies and you'll get a better result for the advertisers.

        I think Yukon is on to something with the section-specific ads. Raise the daily price to $20 or $25 and do the math. At that price, you'd have non-members flocking in to advertise. Track what banners get clicks, put together a tutorial for advertisers, and you'll see more of them creating ads that turn a profit. Those spots would then stay filled, day after day.


        Paul
        Hi Paul,

        Thanks for the suggestions.
        We'll be testing the position of the new ad space at the bottom of the site.
        With the way vbulletin is set up it's not as easy as it looks to move the positioning around. We'll see what we can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Louis
    Also, I know this isn't a suggestions thread and I'm sure this has been brought up before but I know that we all (advertisers on WF) would really appreciate the ability to upload multiple variations of ads that rotate within the same 24 hour period while also being able to track the CTR for each variation.

    If you're looking for ways to improve on the current system you're building please do us all a favor and add that in there
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I'm sorry but I have to play Devil's advocate here.

    In regards to the bottom ad, did you guys even test if this area of the page is even looked at?

    Did you create some test ads, or allow users to test some ads down under to actually see if that space is viable?

    I mean seriously it's a total abyss down there!

    It's even WORSE when some one is in the quick reply window! No one is going to see those ads at the bottom when replying to a thread and that's what I'm doing right now and as my reply grows in length the footer ads gets pushed even further away from my eyes. lol

    I don't think any one is going to see the bottom ads enough to justify the price you're asking for the ad space and I don't think any advertisers will re-up those ads at the bottom of nowhere after paying initially.

    My suggestion is still the same as the one I made in the suggestion forum on May 9th, that no one from the forum bothered to even acknowledge! READ HERE

    Why not try and improve the features for the existing ad space so advertisers have a better ad experience! i.e. Tracking, Clicks, etc. You know BASIC stuff.

    By all means prove me wrong and show me that the ad space at the bottom is effective BEFORE taking money for the ad space.
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    • Profile picture of the author abdul786
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I'm sorry but I have to play Devil's advocate here.

      In regards to the bottom ad, did you guys even test if this area of the page is even looked at?

      Did you create some test ads, or allow users to test some ads down under to actually see if that space is viable?

      I mean seriously it's a total abyss down there!

      It's even WORSE when some one is in the quick reply window! No one is going to see those ads at the bottom when replying to a thread and that's what I'm doing right now and as my reply grows in length the footer ads gets pushed even further away from my eyes. lol

      I don't think any one is going to see the bottom ads enough to justify the price you're asking for the ad space and I don't think any advertisers will re-up those ads at the bottom of nowhere after paying initially.

      My suggestion is still the same as the one I made in the suggestion forum on May 9th, that no one from the forum bothered to even acknowledge! READ HERE

      Why not try and improve the features for the existing ad space so advertisers have a better ad experience! i.e. Tracking, Clicks, etc. You know BASIC stuff.

      By all means prove me wrong and show me that the ad space at the bottom is effective BEFORE taking money for the ad space.
      Can't agree more. Last time I scrolled down the page to where the banner space is offered was an year ago, to find the "Terms of Use" page.

      If those extreme footer banners are going to start at all, the total number of banners in rotation should be no more than 3.

      $50/day is not an issue but will this even bring 10% of the exposure (let alone CTR) compared to the header banner.

      Tracking system (impressions, clicks etc.) is a MUST. I was expecting it to be added earlier than the introduction of this new ad space.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I'm sorry but I have to play Devil's advocate here.

      In regards to the bottom ad, did you guys even test if this area of the page is even looked at?

      Did you create some test ads, or allow users to test some ads down under to actually see if that space is viable?

      I mean seriously it's a total abyss down there!

      It's even WORSE when some one is in the quick reply window! No one is going to see those ads at the bottom when replying to a thread and that's what I'm doing right now and as my reply grows in length the footer ads gets pushed even further away from my eyes. lol

      I don't think any one is going to see the bottom ads enough to justify the price you're asking for the ad space and I don't think any advertisers will re-up those ads at the bottom of nowhere after paying initially.

      My suggestion is still the same as the one I made in the suggestion forum on May 9th, that no one from the forum bothered to even acknowledge! READ HERE

      Why not try and improve the features for the existing ad space so advertisers have a better ad experience! i.e. Tracking, Clicks, etc. You know BASIC stuff.

      By all means prove me wrong and show me that the ad space at the bottom is effective BEFORE taking money for the ad space.
      Hi Rus,

      Sorry for not getting back to you about your ideas and suggestions.

      We'll be exploring the option of allowing text ads or even banner ads under the first post of each thread. I want to be careful not to annoy viewers though.

      I'm guessing most advertisers would have tracking on their destination links so they can assess the effectiveness of their campaigns.
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      • Profile picture of the author Goldbar
        Alaister,

        I placed an order 15 hours earlier and to this point have heard nothing.

        Opened a ticket on the support system and nothing.

        Can you look into this asap or at least tell me how long I have to wait.

        Marc Goldman
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        • Profile picture of the author Alaister
          Originally Posted by Goldbar View Post

          Alaister,

          I placed an order 15 hours earlier and to this point have heard nothing.

          Opened a ticket on the support system and nothing.

          Can you look into this asap or at least tell me how long I have to wait.

          Marc Goldman
          Hi Marc,

          What's the destination URL of your ad?
          The banner ads at this stage still remain the same in terms of the sizing and the design style.

          I was potentially thinking of changing it and opening up up to normal banners.
          What are everyones thoughts about this?
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          • Profile picture of the author Goldbar
            Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

            Hi Marc,

            What's the destination URL of your ad?
            The banner ads at this stage still remain the same in terms of the sizing and the design style.

            I was potentially thinking of changing it and opening up up to normal banners.
            What are everyones thoughts about this?
            Hi Alaister,

            Got an approval on my banner this morning - thanks for that.

            It points to this WSO

            My opinion is that the design style is easy enough to follow but changing things and opening up to different designs would be a good approach. Adding other sizes at diff prices in the top and bottom would be something to test but adding to the sides (if you are considering that may change the whole look and feel and create a backlash so I would not personally do that.

            Marc
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        Hi Alaister,

        Thanks for replying.

        Yes you are correct in that people can and should be tracking the clicks on their ad URL however the actual impressions are a very important aspect of the ad campaign too.

        The way it's set up now there's no possible way to know how many impressions an ad gets and this data is what helps advertisers make better decisions about their campaign.

        Also a Comscore, Pretarget, and MediaMind study done a couple of years ago showed that ads appearing above the fold were 6.7 times more effective at generating conversions then those appearing below the fold.

        So the way the pricing is set right now, based on the statistics from the study the footer ad is way over priced and should be priced at around $15 dollars.

        In regards to the old text ads, if I remember correctly they would possibly appear in two different spots. Sometimes directly under the first post and then sometimes right at the bottom of the last post on the page right above the "post reply" button.

        Maybe Yukon can break down some numbers on those ads as well. = )

        As always your thoughts are welcome.


        NOTE: After being more conscientious about my behavior as a user and how I'm navigating around it think the footer ad could be moved up to be placed right above the
        display options/moderators black bar.

        This would place the ad right below the area where people are clicking to either post a new thread or navigating to other pages.

        Also for me the Posting Rules section is by default expanded, I don't remember if I did this or if the forum sets it that way by default, but this isn't helping if the forum settings have it expanded by default as it pushes the footer ad down even further.

        Also you could span the legend across the page and get one more line of real estate cleaned up.


        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Hi Rus,

        Sorry for not getting back to you about your ideas and suggestions.

        We'll be exploring the option of allowing text ads or even banner ads under the first post of each thread. I want to be careful not to annoy viewers though.

        I'm guessing most advertisers would have tracking on their destination links so they can assess the effectiveness of their campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zaman Butt
    Thanks for this! It will be help for the Advertising ...
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  • Profile picture of the author AmericanMuscleTA
    I'm with Rus Sells. I never, ever get to the bottom of the page.

    Even replying to the thread I'm not even at the bottom.
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    great news, we will try it
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Louis
    One more comment -

    If you do go ahead and allow us to split test ads and track CTRs and even conversions then I would love to see the option to auto-renew my ads when they expire or to purchase weekly ads at a discount (maybe $500/week).

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    The advertisers would have a better conversion rate If they could target specific sub-forums. Currently none of the ads are targeting same niche traffic, it's all random product ads.

    Think Google Adwords, target traffic that's looking for the advertised product.

    Example, traffic in the Website Design sub-forum should see ads for web developers for hire because people in the Web Design forum need help with web design, they're not looking for the random ads that are currently showing up (How to make $10,000!, etc... ( nonsense)).

    Focus on the traffics needs & the advertisers will get higher conversion rates which will cause the advertisers to compete with each other for laser focused ad space that has a good conversion rate.

    BTW, nobody in their right mind would buy that footer ad because it's basically hidden where traffic won't find it. The hot spot for CTR is the top of the page (above the fold).

    Again your wasting header space that could be used for a better purpose (ex: targeted ad space):

    [edit]
    Lets do some math & see how much money Warrior Forum is losing out on by allowing sitewide advertising instead of targeted sub-forum advertising.

    With 11 advertisers ($100 each) targeting the top banner space your maxed out at $1,100 revenue per day, without targeting any traffic (random ads).

    If Warrior Forum allowed advertisers to target sub-forums that's at least 34 sub-forums, not counting things like the OT forum, etc... So now advertisers have 34 laser targeted traffic sources.

    Now allow only 5 advertisers max per day per each sub-forum (creates competition to buy ad space). Drop the per day advertising fee down to $13 per day (stay with me on this). Lets assume WF has sold all advertising slots because everyone can afford to spend $13.

    Now WF income has doubled at $2,210 per day, advertisers are happy because they're only rotating ads with 4 competition instead of 10 competition. Traffic CTR is increased because the ads are targeting what they need/want.

    No doubt it will take a few months to fill all the $13 ad slots but the long term advertising money is a better deal for WF because you're no longer maxed out at $1,100 per day (top ad space).

    This example allows WF to potentially profit an additional +$400,000 per year assuming you keep the ad slots filled which should be easy considering you already have the contact info for every forum member that's sold a product/service on Warrior Forum (ad slot promotion).

    Even If you only filled 50% of the sub-forum ad slots (worst case scenario) at $13 per advertiser (day) you would still earn the same $1,100 that your earning today with irrelevant ads (poor user experience).

    Obviously play with the numbers but keep the advertising cost low with targeted traffic & more advertisers will keep the ad slots filled which could help create a waiting list for future advertisers.
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    This is very nice
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  • Profile picture of the author tribros
    Instead of ads at the bottom of the page why don't you guys add it at the end of the forum post. i.e after "Post Reply" button. I'm sure it'll be much more effective for advertisers. Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
      Originally Posted by tribros View Post

      Instead of ads at the bottom of the page why don't you guys add it at the end of the forum post. i.e after "Post Reply" button. I'm sure it'll be much more effective for advertisers. Just a thought.
      That's a good way to boost the footer CTR considering traffic will be forced to see the ad since it will be next to a call-to-action ("Post Reply" button).
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  • Profile picture of the author bluebrain
    The bottom banner seems a little expensive at a 50% cost compared to the top one. It will probably not get 50% of top banner CTR.
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  • At the time of posting, your current banner ads are being swamped with this one:



    It accounts for 7 out of your 11 banners.

    Forum users really will develop banner blindness if this continues.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      At the time of posting, your current banner ads are being swamped with this one:



      It accounts for 7 out of your 11 banners.

      Forum users really will develop banner blindness if this continues.







      Exactly!

      The random ads are useless for traffic which will cause a low CTR.

      Only allow each ad to target one same niche sub-forum.

      That opens up more targeted competition which will increase advertisers that will spend money to sell their product/service, while serving focused ads to traffic (better CTR), which will generate more ad income (competition = $$) for Warrior Forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      At the time of posting, your current banner ads are being swamped with this one:



      It accounts for 7 out of your 11 banners.

      Forum users really will develop banner blindness if this continues.
      I think this member might have bought several spots in the Banner Ads because most of the time I only see this ad.....
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        • Profile picture of the author Alaister
          We've made an update to the banner ad system. A lot of you have provided feedback in regards to buying ads for a longer period than just 1 day. We have enabled that functionality. You're able to now purchase 3 days and 7 days worth of ads.

          https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner
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          • Profile picture of the author datingworld
            Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

            We've made an update to the banner ad system. A lot of you have provided feedback in regards to buying ads for a longer period than just 1 day. We have enabled that functionality. You're able to now purchase 3 days and 7 days worth of ads.

            https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner
            Alaister, Thanks for that
            If I am not wrong there was an option of buying Ad for 1 week and 1 month as well long time ago. (Maybe check with Thomas in support)

            I would suggest you to look into that as well and offer some sort of discounts for buying monthly banner ads.
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            • Profile picture of the author banwork
              https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner is just loading with a blank white page. *Update* Now it says "internal server error*

              Does this happen when all banner spots are full or is this an error?
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              • Profile picture of the author Alaister
                Originally Posted by banwork View Post

                https://wso.warriorforum.com/add-banner is just loading with a blank white page. *Update* Now it says "internal server error*

                Does this happen when all banner spots are full or is this an error?
                Hi Jerry,

                This shouldn't happen. This is an error. I checked the page on my end and it works. Would you be able to take a screenshot of what you see. What browser are you using?

                Thanks
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                • Profile picture of the author banwork
                  Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

                  Hi Jerry,

                  This shouldn't happen. This is an error. I checked the page on my end and it works. Would you be able to take a screenshot of what you see. What browser are you using?

                  Thanks
                  Alaister,

                  This must have been a temporary error and is now working! I have submitted two banner ads and am very happy with the new banner ad system! I had wanted to place banner ads before but never could use the old system successfully. Yours works great now and I appreciate you and your team making the updates!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alaister
                    Originally Posted by banwork View Post

                    Alaister,

                    This must have been a temporary error and is now working! I have submitted two banner ads and am very happy with the new banner ad system! I had wanted to place banner ads before but never could use the old system successfully. Yours works great now and I appreciate you and your team making the updates!
                    That's great to hear Jerry!
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    Thanks Great addition
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    Believe or not, people do view the bottom of the forum.

    Not everyone is internet marketing SAVVEY like yourselves, I'll explain more in a moment.

    BUT... It would be cool if the forum would ask us what we want and need rather than popping changes all the time.

    Furthermore,

    When changes are going to be made,

    possibly have a few warrior test it for free and provide review on there results they got with it to see if it's viable traffic source and worth opening up to the rest of the forum.

    It doesn't seem like a lot of people are finding the stick post profitable so it's something to consider.

    People are here to make money!

    The end results is always to help people and make money = PROFIT!

    If we are not getting the people or the money... what's the point?

    The forum will lose customers fast but then again there needs to be a balance. I'm pretty sure there are people who felt like they were ripped off with the sticky post... (I am just being honest).

    This is totally unbalanced and only the forum wins!

    I've probably seen one marketer who runs the sticky post consistently.

    Plain and simple, if someones running ad consistently they're making money.

    SO back to the BOTTOM BANNER

    A few years back there use to be TEXT ads at the bottom of the forum.

    How do I know that and remember it? I was using it from time to time.

    If I recall correctly it was $30 a day or $200 for a week

    It was profitable for me... but on $50 a day or $350 a week, I gotta work harder now to make it profitable.??

    It's something has to be tested because now.. it's is a Banner and not a text ad so it could be promising who knows?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Gavin, the text ads as I remember were 40 bucks per week and they were profitable for me as well.

      I used them to make sales and build lists. I loved them and I don't know why the forum discontinued them in the first place!

      I've been lobbying to bring them back ever since!

      Originally Posted by Gavin Stephenson View Post

      Believe or not, people do view the bottom of the forum.

      Not everyone is internet marketing SAVVEY like yourselves, I'll explain more in a moment.

      BUT... It would be cool if the forum would ask us what we want and need rather than popping changes all the time.

      Furthermore,

      When changes are made,

      possibly have a few warrior test it for free and provide review on there results they got with it to see if it's viable traffic source and worth opening up to the rest of the forum.

      It doesn't seem like a lot of people are finding the stick post profitable so it's something to consider.

      People are here to make money!

      The end results is always to help people and make money = PROFIT!

      If we are not getting the people or the money...

      the forum will lose customers fast. I'm pretty sure there are people who felt like there were ripped off with the sticky post... (I am just being honest)

      I've probably seen one marketer who runs the sticky post consistently.

      Plain and simple, if someones running ad consistently they're making money.

      SO back to the BOTTOM BANNER

      A few years back there use to be TEXT ads at the bottom of the forum.

      How do I know that and remember it? I was using it from time to time.

      If I recall correctly it was $30 bucks for a day and $200 for a week.

      It was profitable for me... but on $50 a day, gotta work harder now or $350 WHO knows.?? has to be tested..

      But it is a Banner and not a text ad so it could be promising who knows!
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      This is the best change I have seen so far with freelancer owning the warrior forum! The old system was a nightmare. I tried submitting banner ads hundreds of times but always submitted them at the wrong time and they just disappeared without any word about approval. This new system has inspired me to try again starting with a banner ad at the bottom to see if it actually gets any action!
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  • Profile picture of the author avenueactiv
    It's about time we had an organized system in place. I like the part of getting an email notifiying if its approved or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    Great job with the new easy to use banner system = a major overdue needed update
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Remove the posting rules box (or just move it down) and put the banners right under the text box for quick replies and you'll get a better result for the advertisers.

    I think Yukon is on to something with the section-specific ads. Raise the daily price to $20 or $25 and do the math. At that price, you'd have non-members flocking in to advertise. Track what banners get clicks, put together a tutorial for advertisers, and you'll see more of them creating ads that turn a profit. Those spots would then stay filled, day after day.


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  • Profile picture of the author LegendaryGuy1
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    I agree, I've never actually reached the bottom of the page before, even when replying to a thread. It wouldn't get as much eye balls as the top banner and to be honest, I wouldn't want to pay $50 a day for it. I think it'd be a good idea to start side bar ads maybe? Not sure if many of the warriors would be pleased with that but it may bring about some additional eye balls and help people spend more on the ads.

    Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
    If you're going to have that ad at the bottom, you need to remove all the junk above it. For example, remove the "Posting Rules" section and Forum Jump so it show directly below the quick reply.

    Also, do the same thing on the threads list.
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  • Profile picture of the author MMA Sports
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    Wonderful improvement. I'll check out the footer banner ads... I think I need it!
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    • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Remove the posting rules box (or just move it down) and put the banners right under the text box for quick replies and you'll get a better result for the advertisers.

      I think Yukon is on to something with the section-specific ads. Raise the daily price to $20 or $25 and do the math. At that price, you'd have non-members flocking in to advertise. Track what banners get clicks, put together a tutorial for advertisers, and you'll see more of them creating ads that turn a profit. Those spots would then stay filled, day after day.


      Paul
      I agree with Paul on that (and also on creating section specific ads).

      In fact, looking at the bottom section again, I think we can do even better than putting it
      right underneath the Quick Reply area by putting it directly under the big "Reply to
      Thread" section. And then, I would suggest to move the "Bookmark" and the "Tags"
      bars BELOW the Quick Reply section. If people are looking for them, they'll find them,
      and they do take up some valuable real estate where they are right now.

      Also, with the banner ad, you'd want the Quick Reply section to be as close to the
      regular reply section as possible (at least I think so).

      So if it were to go right under the reply button and maybe for a somewhat lower price,
      I would give it a go too...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alaister
    Thanks for all the feedback and thoughts. We'll be constantly improving this as we go.
    I'll be going through all of your replies to see how we can improve on what we've done.

    I think we're definitely moving in the right direction.

    Thanks guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Hey Alaister, Igor Kheifets here.

    I've been an avid WF advertiser since 2011 and I'm experiencing some issues with the new banner system.

    1. One of my banners that was approved has a wrong non working link! (I have PMed you with further info on this)

    2. I got an email this morning saying my banner is approved and gone live. But when I check the current banner listing, it's not showing up in the rotation at all... :/

    Appreciate you taking the time to look into this matter.

    Thanks,
    Igor
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed View Post

      Hey Alaister, Igor Kheifets here.

      I've been an avid WF advertiser since 2011 and I'm experiencing some issues with the new banner system.

      1. One of my banners that was approved has a wrong non working link! (I have PMed you with further info on this)

      2. I got an email this morning saying my banner is approved and gone live. But when I check the current banner listing, it's not showing up in the rotation at all... :/

      Appreciate you taking the time to look into this matter.

      Thanks,
      Igor
      Hi Igor,

      I have sent you a PM reply and have addressed your issues.
      The old link that shows all the banners is linked to the old system and is not reflective the banners that are being served with this new system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Thanks, Alaister!

    Got the PM, appreciate the timely support on a weekend!

    Igor
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  • Profile picture of the author mamadsouri
    Is there any possible to buy a banner space for 30 days at one time?
    Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by mamadsouri View Post

      Is there any possible to buy a banner space for 30 days at one time?
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      Hi there,

      You can send an email to advertising@warriorforum.com

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Nail Yener
    If I were you, I would put the ad just above the quick reply section. It would most probably get more attention than the top banner.
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  • Profile picture of the author vanished
    Hi,

    I got the following error when I tried to pay for an ad space "{"status": "error", "error_code": "wsomanager.INVALID"}"
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by vanished View Post

      Hi,

      I got the following error when I tried to pay for an ad space "{"status": "error", "error_code": "wsomanager.INVALID"}"
      We just tested the entire process and everything seems to work. Would you be able try again? If you get this error again could you take a screenshot and we'll be able to resolve it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author rizy
    One Very Important Thing:

    There should only be one ad allowed per link/product.

    Because some people clearly have larger budgets and buy 5+ spots per day. This creates monopoly and in short term WF will profit from it but in long term people would stop paying attention to that ad space because they would that it's the same thing over and over again.

    But Thank God for the Freelancer team to come in and make improvements on the WF Ads. The previous management only got ads from the people who were well connected. I once added an add which followed WF add rules and guidelines 100% but I got no reply about whether it was accepted or rejected for 3 weeks and then after that it was deleted and even then I wasn't notified. I even contacted Paul but he only said it is in queue, for 3 damn weeks lol? The thing was only 5 ads were being accepted during that time yet 11 were open slots. And it's not just me many people had the same problem, you can go check their stories on the previous warrior forum ad thread.

    -Rizzy
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by rizy View Post

      One Very Important Thing:

      There should only be one ad allowed per link/product.

      Because some people clearly have larger budgets and buy 5+ spots per day. This creates monopoly and in short term WF will profit from it but in long term people would stop paying attention to that ad space because they would that it's the same thing over and over again.
      I think that is a very good point being made.

      If we have someone always buying half the ad spots, those ads show more regularly, members see them more regularly and thus banner blindness starts to click in and effects other advertisers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Louis
      This a great addition to the warrior forum! I will be testing these banners soon...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    Hi Alaister,

    I love the way you in particular attend to many of the issues I've seen raised since freelancer took over. It's great to see that kind of hands-on service. Thomas with Support seems to be on the ball too.

    Now, I should point out that you're also swimming in a gold mine of ideas with over 700K internet marketers (not all are savvy but I'm sure many tens of thousands are) and just one idea from Yukon could easily double or triple income from the site. I think Yukon was way too generous with that one lol... but good one him/her for being more concerned about helping everyone here and the WF out with a superb concept.

    Then others have added a couple more ideas that are awesome too, The ads under the "Post reply" concept is genius too. You really shouldn't waive them aside because we would all be losing out.

    By the way, I would expect that you can actually end up charging MORE for certain forums because they will get better results than others even all being targeted. So an ad in the offline section will do well being targeted there, but ads in the main section may make money because that forum gets more traffic etc so keeping it at a flat $13 or whatever rate would not be maximizing your profits. Not saying blow the ad costs to the heavens, but consider testing different price points etc. Or just keep at one price, that's fine too, just saying... you could even increase profits without ruining advertiser experience.

    Off topic advice... set up a warrior forum activity/competition whatever for the best ideas from warrior members that will help the forum help others better (since they know the users better than you could--they ARE the users AND are marketing masterminds---you get a double whammy here, and once the forum can actually help us all better, the effect would easily triple your profits within a year.

    For instance, some recent changes made by the forum are just killing the experience and costing you visitors, trust me on that, you own the site but if you come in and start turning things around without checking out the possible effects you'll lose more than you gain.

    Some sub-forums were moved recently without notice, one of them was the best forum in here! I was told by Thomas it's still around but neither he nor I could find it! Terrible user experience that stopped me coming here as often as I normally did. It's just one and thing and just one person but consider that I may be representing tens of thousands of others who said nothing? That simple move may already have cost more than you may know now or later.

    In any case, I think making changes by brainstorming in-house is OK if that's what you've been doing, but you're dealing with truly savvy marketers here, many are multi-millionaires from web marketing and are silent about it... tap into the brains of these people and maximizing user experience and your profits will be much easier than anything you're likely doing now. Just another idea;-)

    Keep up the good aspects of your input though, I love your own customer-centric approach in particular and think it can only be improved on from here.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      So the footer ads have disappeared.

      I know I saw some ads run and I wonder if they advertiser got any clicks for if they forum is reworking the ad placement on the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ethiccash
    So, no one in here has any issue sending $100 without any traffic stats or info regarding the ad spot? I don't think there's any place on the net where you're asked to send $100 and that's it. At least you could help people understand what they're buying by showing us some stats: impressions, average CTR, and of course click geos and so on would be quite mandatory as well.

    You've created some great forums related to growth hacking, conversion rate optimization, so asking for people to blindly pay $100 for a media buy looks too middle age really :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author saadsaleems4a
    thank you so much
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  • Profile picture of the author shipon
    i know that new banner ad system are very important ad.so very good banner is good marketing...
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  • Profile picture of the author mediaadvantages
    Would help if it is working. I have been trying to create a banner ad for an hour now and every time I upload it I get redirected and have to start all over again. FRUSTRATING!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by mediaadvantages View Post

      Would help if it is working. I have been trying to create a banner ad for an hour now and every time I upload it I get redirected and have to start all over again. FRUSTRATING!
      Are you still experiencing issues? Send a PM with more information about the errors you're experiencing and I'll help you get it working.
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  • Profile picture of the author igrowyourbiz
    Top Ads:
    Great news! except now you have taken away the ability for the advertiser to CHOOSE when to start the ad. Would be great if after approval there was a way to say, start my ad on "this" available slot (first come, first serve naturally)

    Some advertisers time the banner to other activities and want to know/control the minute the clock starts running.

    Bottom ads:

    Good idea! Just below the last post -- right above the breadcrumbs - THATS where your bottom ads will guaranteed to be seen. You might even consider the old school text ads that used to run there and later became the staple CYN...
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  • Profile picture of the author mediaadvantages
    I'm not getting an error, its just redirecting like I pointed out. I click to upload the image, it automatically redirects away from the advertising page and goes to the home page. Thats it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediaadvantages
    By the way, I created an ad finally and paid for it and was told I would be notified when it was approved. I would assume it doesn't take that much time to get notified if it is approve, you don't have that many ads. Second, at no point was I able to choose a date or anything, shouldn't you be showing people options for dates before they pay for the ad? I don't know who came up with this new system but it is lacking in many ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Mann
    May god bless you lol.

    Banner ads work wonders if you know how to use them (My first wso sold over 800 copies thanks to them)
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  • Profile picture of the author MobileBond
    It's been many days since i submitted banner however i dont get any update on approval?
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  • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
    So is there no way to know how far booked you are until after we have paid?

    I mean, if after the approval and you say are ad will go live 21 days from now, and we need it for a promotion in the next 2 days, can we then cancel?

    So, I guess I am saying scheduling would be an awesome addition as well
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Coach Comeback definitely got a point. +1 on this.

    Igor
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Thank you for the feedback everyone. We're working on improving this system and making it more usable for you.

      We have also decided to remove the design restraints on the banner ads that can be used. A lot of people have been asking for this and have submitted other banners. You can now use any colors or graphics in your banners.

      We still have the right to refuse banners if they are offensive, competitive or inappropriate.

      Thank you
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      • Profile picture of the author Tristan Bull
        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Thank you for the feedback everyone. We're working on improving this system and making it more usable for you.

        We have also decided to remove the design restraints on the banner ads that can be used. A lot of people have been asking for this and have submitted other banners. You can now use any colors or graphics in your banners.

        We still have the right to refuse banners if they are offensive, competitive or inappropriate.

        Thank you
        Does this include animated banners?
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    very good .
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

    This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

      This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
      2nd vote for this.

      I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

      Would be nice to have that back again
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      • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
        Originally Posted by Coach Comeback View Post

        2nd vote for this.

        I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

        Would be nice to have that back again
        3rd vote for this. I'm with comeback and traveling guy
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        • Profile picture of the author Alaister
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          This may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it. I wonder why you folks have removed the option for people to see all the current ads. I sometimes catch a glimpse of an interesting banner and there's no way for me to easily bring it up again so I can check out the offer. I don't see why the current ads couldn't be displayed alongside of the add-banner info.

          This would be an added benefit to advertisers, more impressions. People could actually click a link and see all the current banners. I miss being able to do this.
          Originally Posted by Coach Comeback View Post

          2nd vote for this.

          I agree with Travling guy. I spent a good lil while trying to find that page myself before giving up.

          Would be nice to have that back again
          Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed View Post

          3rd vote for this. I'm with comeback and traveling guy
          Thanks for the feedback guys. We're working on creating this page to show all the banners that are currently in rotation. We've change the system so it's not as straight forward as it was before. We'll keep you updated.
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    Awesome Thanks so much !
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Mann
    Hey Aliester, I sent you an PM days ago regarding a banner ad refund.

    You scheduled me for 21st when the launch was on 18th .

    I even created a support ticket and yet no response.

    Sam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Sam Mann View Post

      Hey Aliester, I sent you an PM days ago regarding a banner ad refund.

      You scheduled me for 21st when the launch was on 18th .

      I even created a support ticket and yet no response.

      Sam.
      Hi Sam,

      I've just sent you a PM to sort out your issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    I noticed that in addition to the banners being shown there is another banner by the Warrior Forum which appears often. It is entitled: "Advertise Here! Get your business in front of thousands" That is an advertisement being shown IN ADDITION to the 11 ads already in rotation which means LESS ad exposure for advertisers. I can't believe advertisers were not informed by this damaging change.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

      I noticed that in addition to the banners being shown there is another banner by the Warrior Forum which appears often. It is entitled: "Advertise Here! Get your business in front of thousands" That is an advertisement being shown IN ADDITION to the 11 ads already in rotation which means LESS ad exposure for advertisers. I can't believe advertisers were not informed by this damaging change.
      Hi Ben,

      There are only 11 ads in rotation right now. The Warrior Forum ad that reads "Advertise Here!" has replaced one of the ads shown on that "View All" page. This is due to a refund request from that advertiser.

      The ad that has been replaced is this one:

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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Draper
    I wonder how advertisers are doing with the color in their ads. That would be nice to know. I however, somehow don't like the color in the ads. It just seems like all the other forums now. hmm
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  • Profile picture of the author affspy
    Can somebody tell me how many views can i expect from one banner in the top of the forum for 24hrs please ? I don't care about the CTR (Click-through-rate), only the numbers of views i can expect from that spot for 24hrs.
    Any WF member tried that, his help will be appreciated .
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    • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
      Originally Posted by affspy View Post

      Can somebody tell me how many views can i expect from one banner in the top of the forum for 24hrs please ? I don't care about the CTR (Click-through-rate), only the numbers of views i can expect from that spot for 24hrs.
      Any WF member tried that, his help will be appreciated .
      Impossible to tell. It does not actually track the number of views. Only way to tell is by tracking the clicks. I average about 100-200 clicks per day depending on the ad and the day. Not sure what everyone else is getting so no clue if that is above or below average.

      ================

      On a different note, I just have to say... although I appreciate all the new changes and updates you are making, and there are no way to know how things will work out until you try them..............

      The new system has some serious drawbacks.

      My personal experience:

      So I asked the question before of how the heck do we know when the ad will go live until after we pay? That was not answered so it makes it really tough to plan a campaign around the advertisement.

      Actual numbers:

      -I submitted and paid for my ad 10 days ago.

      -Less than 24 hours I got the approval email (AWESOME )

      -The date to be approved, Aug 31st - 9 days later (not so awesome )

      -Today is the 31st. 430pm est as I write this ....Ad still not running (even less awesomer )

      -Sent support ticket asking what happened, maybe I got my dates crossed. It happens.

      Reply from support
      Hello James,

      I am sorry, but I cannot tell you the exact time but it will go live today as soon as there is a free spot available.

      Please let me know if you have any further questions.

      Thanks and Kind Regards
      What?!?!?!

      So lets recap the new system:

      You pay ahead of time now.

      No clue how many people are in the cue ahead of you

      No clue what day your ad will go live

      Not even a clue on about what TIME your ad will go live....

      hmmmmm

      Overall, my experiences with the results from banner ads have been positive. But until some of this confusion gets sorted out... it just doesn't make good business sense for me to use this anymore.

      Shame really.

      I hope user feedback is what you were hoping for as requested in this thread. Just hoping this helps get a feel for what ad users hope and expect.

      Thanks for all your effort so far.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alaister
        Originally Posted by Coach Comeback View Post

        Impossible to tell. It does not actually track the number of views. Only way to tell is by tracking the clicks. I average about 100-200 clicks per day depending on the ad and the day. Not sure what everyone else is getting so no clue if that is above or below average.

        ================

        On a different note, I just have to say... although I appreciate all the new changes and updates you are making, and there are no way to know how things will work out until you try them..............

        The new system has some serious drawbacks.

        My personal experience:

        So I asked the question before of how the heck do we know when the ad will go live until after we pay? That was not answered so it makes it really tough to plan a campaign around the advertisement.

        Actual numbers:

        -I submitted and paid for my ad 10 days ago.

        -Less than 24 hours I got the approval email (AWESOME )

        -The date to be approved, Aug 31st - 9 days later (not so awesome )

        -Today is the 31st. 430pm est as I write this ....Ad still not running (even less awesomer )

        -Sent support ticket asking what happened, maybe I got my dates crossed. It happens.

        Reply from support


        What?!?!?!

        So lets recap the new system:

        You pay ahead of time now.

        No clue how many people are in the cue ahead of you

        No clue what day your ad will go live

        Not even a clue on about what TIME your ad will go live....

        hmmmmm

        Overall, my experiences with the results from banner ads have been positive. But until some of this confusion gets sorted out... it just doesn't make good business sense for me to use this anymore.

        Shame really.

        I hope user feedback is what you were hoping for as requested in this thread. Just hoping this helps get a feel for what ad users hope and expect.

        Thanks for all your effort so far.
        Hi James,

        Thank you for this. We're looking to improve the banner advertising system. Can you email me or PM me your ticket ID. I will get back to you when your ad will be running.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
    Started running at about 10pm est today. So it is running now :-)

    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Coach Comeback View Post

      Started running at about 10pm est today. So it is running now :-)

      Thank you
      Ok thanks James. Send me the ticket anyway. I'll be looking to see what we can do to improve our process and support.

      Thank you
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      • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Ok thanks James. Send me the ticket anyway. I'll be looking to see what we can do to improve our process and support.

        Thank you
        Sent the ticket via private message. Thank you.

        I hope you understand this message was not to be negative at all.

        It is just that most advertisers plan launches and campaigns and the timing of the ads become critical if it is not just an evergreen ad that can run at any time.

        With the uncertainty of when the ad will ever without sitting on the forum and hitting refresh... there is really no way to build a campaign around this advertising (at the moment) for time specific events.

        In the old way it was a bit similar... but still a bit better for me.

        Once your ad was approved (without paying) you just had to watch the ads page (hitting refresh) until you saw one drop off, they you paid and took their spot and you were live immediately

        At least that way you had control of when the ad went live. Seems to be the lesser of 2 evils to me.

        Just my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author Holdentot
    Hello, I have bought the banner Ad on Warriorforum by paypal.
    But still dont see the banner in rotation neither have any information regarding statistics.
    Please guide me if there is any advertise panel where I can see the status of my ad.

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author kartherma
    curious if there is a way of predicting when (if ever) a banner ad will be accepted and added to the rotation. For instance: I click on the link showing current ads (it shows 5 active banners). I added, paid via paypal, was sent a message that said I would be told when it went live...

    is there any way to predict when an advertisement would go live?

    100us isnt more than I might be playing at a blackjack table or other game at a casino...
    but this isn't a casino game for me (or I imagine many of us...) so having knowledge of how many cards are in the deck is a critical issue for me (and I imagine many of us...)

    I want desperately (and can pay readily) for the 7 day (or more) banner- but will not lay out that kind of money until I know the odds of the game (a one day banner ad will tell me PLENTY- certainly enough data to understand if a 7 day (700us) layout is positive or negative expectation...)

    any help would be certainly appreciated!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by kartherma View Post

      curious if there is a way of predicting when (if ever) a banner ad will be accepted and added to the rotation. For instance: I click on the link showing current ads (it shows 5 active banners). I added, paid via paypal, was sent a message that said I would be told when it went live...

      is there any way to predict when an advertisement would go live?

      100us isnt more than I might be playing at a blackjack table or other game at a casino...
      but this isn't a casino game for me (or I imagine many of us...) so having knowledge of how many cards are in the deck is a critical issue for me (and I imagine many of us...)

      I want desperately (and can pay readily) for the 7 day (or more) banner- but will not lay out that kind of money until I know the odds of the game (a one day banner ad will tell me PLENTY- certainly enough data to understand if a 7 day (700us) layout is positive or negative expectation...)

      any help would be certainly appreciated!!!
      Hi there,

      There is a total of 11 banner ad spots at the top of the forum, so right now since there are only 5 ads running, your ad will run immediately, provided it is approved.

      We don't approve ads that promote illegal products or offers, competing offers or inappropriate material.

      We do have the right to reject any ad we deem unsuitable. In this instance the funds will be sent back to the advertiser.
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Alaister, just tried using the 'renew' option (great touch btw), but it doesn't work, when I hit pay, it just won't redirect me to pp

    Igor
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed View Post

      Alaister, just tried using the 'renew' option (great touch btw), but it doesn't work, when I hit pay, it just won't redirect me to pp

      Igor
      Hi Igor,

      Do you get an error message?
      Send me an email with what happens when you press renew.
      We'll sort this out.

      In the meantime you may have to manually upload your ad again and make payment.

      Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    nope, simply didn't go to paypal... when I click on "proceed" nothing happens, specifically on the "renew screen', I resubmitted the banner from scratch and it worked.

    Igor
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed View Post

      nope, simply didn't go to paypal... when I click on "proceed" nothing happens, specifically on the "renew screen', I resubmitted the banner from scratch and it worked.

      Igor
      Yeh ok. I approved your new banners that you uploaded.
      I'll talk to the engineers and see what we can do.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Interested in the top banner ad.

    Could you confirm.

    You run up to 11 ads per day, so a particular ad receives just under 10% of the impressions a day if all ads are filled.

    What you see here https://payments.warriorforum.com/li...rs/warrior_top are today's ads (I see 6 today 16th October) so if I added an ad right now it could go live today as the 7th ad? Assuming you approve quickly.

    Appreciate you don't know how many impressions will be generated a day, but you must have an average daily impression number for the entire site which can be used by advertisers to estimate how many impressions their ad will receive,. What's the average number of impressions per day over the past 30 days or September?

    Right now don't have a clue what number impressions it will likely generate (could be 10,000 or 10,000,000, no way to estimate) , would help at https://payments.warriorforum.com/add-banner to have some basic details. I had to read this thread to known an ad isn't the only banner ad shown (1 of up to 11) and still don't know impressions, not even a rough ball park figure.

    One poster said they generate around 200 clicks, which for $100 a day isn't too bad (50 cents a click), on this I'd need a 0.25% conversion to break even.

    I sell the product I want to advertise for $200, if I can make one sale a day from here would be worth buying long term ads at $100 a day (100% profit = no brainer). But I can't make an advertising decision with so little information and not spending $100 on a test.

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Hi David,

      Thank you for your interest in the banner advertising.
      What you mentioned in regards to the number of ads is correct. So if there are 6 ads running and you submit/pay for an ad which is approved you will be the 7th ad.

      On average people are receiving anywhere between 10,000 - 15,000 impressions a day.

      The CTR really depends on your ad creative as well as the product/service on offering.
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  • Profile picture of the author poweruphosting
    What kind of impression is the bottom banner getting on daily basis and is it shared by a total of 11 ads as well?
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  • Profile picture of the author jogunn
    Can we no longer advertise through Warrior forum? The advertise link just shows a blank page?
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    • Profile picture of the author danieljb
      Originally Posted by jogunn View Post

      Can we no longer advertise through Warrior forum? The advertise link just shows a blank page?
      You can definitely still advertise with Warrior Forum. This is the link here: https://payments.warriorforum.com/add-banner

      I've sent you a private message about the blank page issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander1990
    wonderful news! Thanks for doing this!
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