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Unread 24th Jul 2014, 10:40 PM   #1
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Hi everyone,

It's been a crazy week with the launch and release of Warrior Payments. Thank you to everyone who jumped on my live stream for the announcement. Unfortunately we had some technical issues which we'll be fixing to ensure everything is smooth in the future.


We have gone through all of your feedback and are rapidly adding features and improvements to what we have released.

Here are the updates and features we have now added since launch:

- IPN integration
- Bigger "Buy Now" buttons
- Reminder email for customers to leave feedback 3 days after purchase

IPN Integration

You asked for it, we delivered.

A lot of you have provided feedback around IPN integration and allowing notification of payment. We have implemented IPN Notification which can be found in the "Advanced" section when creating your WSO.

When choosing this option, Warrior Payments will send the exact IPN data received from PayPal to your script. Enter the URL of the script you have on your server. The data will be sent to this URL after a sale has been made. You will also get notified when a refund or reversal occurs.

This is an advanced feature and is optional.


Bigger "Buy Now" buttons

After seeing the first users of Warrior Payments embedding their buttons onto their sales pages we discovered the buttons were much too small. We immediately worked on increasing the sizes of these buttons to match the styling of most of your sales pages. This will hopefully increase conversions and make the "Buy Now" buttons more prominent.


Customer Feedback Reminder Email

We have received a lot of feedback around the implementation of the reviews system and we are working on improving it and making it a more accurate system. The first thing we have done is created functionality for Warrior Payments admins to remove useless reviews. We have gone through and removed the reviews that we feel are not suitable and valuable. This has removed the reviews from showing up however it is still included in the feedback calculation. We'll be fixing this early next week.

We have made it clearer on the check out page that you should only leave a review after you have used the product. This is live right now.

We also created a reminder email which will be sent to the buyer 3 days after they have purchased the product to remind them to leave a detailed review that will educate and help future buyers. The reminder emails will kick in as of Monday next week.

As always send us your feedback and suggestions, we love to hear about what you think can be done to improve. What features do you guys want next?

Thank you
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Thank you for your prompt response to our feedback and feature requests.

Warrior Payments will definitely be growing better and better with your efforts.

Look forward to more exciting upcoming improvements.
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Ho-ly-shit. I'd love to use this for a web-app with subscription model. Could you guys add the option to sell services rather than just downloadable products?
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Originally Posted by egyptik View Post

Ho-ly-shit. I'd love to use this for a web-app with subscription model. Could you guys add the option to sell services rather than just downloadable products?
Yeh we're working on building out features that you guys want rapidly.

Great feedback. We'll have these two on our list. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

Yeh we're working on building out features that you guys want rapidly.

Great feedback. We'll have these two on our list. Thanks
Ditto! I sell 2 different services on the forum at the moment - would be interesting to see how they perform when integrated with warrior payments

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Originally Posted by MattBrighton View Post

Ditto! I sell 2 different services on the forum at the moment - would be interesting to see how they perform when integrated with warrior payments
Right now you can use Warrior Payments to sell services. What you'd do is create a congratulations or thank you for purchasing page as your delivery URL. You can then work with the buyer to deliver the service.

Feel free to PM if you need help.
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It is a pleasure to see the IPN integration after ONLY a few days! This is a huge message to the community showing the response time and dedication that You Alaister and the Freelancer / WF team does to enhance and improove the WarriorPayments on the fly as we speak
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Awesome, love the IPN integration!


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Thank you for providing some of the bigger buttons. But I will say that the buttons could be even larger, and bolder. Right now the design of the buttons is excellent because it is in sync with the forum, but one of the things I really like about Jvzoo are their extremely powerful large, and bold button styles, that are extremely impactful.

But thank you for everything your doing ... appreciated.

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how about delayed payments for affiliates???
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Originally Posted by Najgel View Post

It is a pleasure to see the IPN integration after ONLY a few days! This is a huge message to the community showing the response time and dedication that You Alaister and the Freelancer / WF team does to enhance and improove the WarriorPayments on the fly as we speak
Thanks! We're 100% committed to building out the product and adding the features you guys want. Keep the feedback coming.
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There are two things that you have not responded to that people want to know about.

1. Will there be Delayed Payments (at least 30 days) for affiliates
2. Will we have complete control over refunds.

Good move on the changes in feedback and addition of IPN

EDIT: Just received this email from Wso Top Pick
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It looks like a spammer is taking advantage of the new platform to send out spam emails, but wanted to make sure that this is not a WF email for daily deals or something.

As for new features, since you asked, same as I suggested before

1. Delayed payments
2. Complete control over refunds
3. OTOs, upsells, downsells, sideway sells, and autoresponder integration of all major autoresponders (like Get Response, Aweber, etc.)
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Great stuff. I'm glad there's positive changes happening. I like the new design of the buy buttons.

Also, is the remainder going to be an optional function or is it going to be automatic?

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Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

There are two things that you have not responded to that people want to know about.

1. Will there be Delayed Payments (at least 30 days) for affiliates
2. Will we have complete control over refunds.

Good move on the changes in feedback and addition of IPN
Hi Suzanne,

We will be looking at implementing delayed payments and a better way to manage potential problems with affiliates. Right now all affiliates can be approved or rejected by seller.

Sellers do have complete control of refunds. On the My Stats page you can refund specific transactions. We won't go in and process refunds.

We'll be improving the feedback system but wanted to get started on having it make more sense.
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Originally Posted by Ledux View Post

Great stuff. I'm glad there's positive changes happening. I like the new design of the buy buttons.

Also, is the remainder going to be an optional function or is it going to be automatic?
The reminder email is automatic and will be sent to buyers who have not left a feedback 3 days after sale.
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Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post


EDIT: Just received this email from Wso Top Pick
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It looks like a spammer is taking advantage of the new platform to send out spam emails, but wanted to make sure that this is not a WF email for daily deals or something.

As for new features, since you asked, same as I suggested before

1. Delayed payments
2. Complete control over refunds
3. OTOs, upsells, downsells, sideway sells, and autoresponder integration of all major autoresponders (like Get Response, Aweber, etc.)
No that email is not from us. Would you be able to forward it to me so I can take a look - alaister@warriorforum.com

Thanks for your suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

Hi Suzanne,

We will be looking at implementing delayed payments and a better way to manage potential problems with affiliates. Right now all affiliates can be approved or rejected by seller.

Sellers do have complete control of refunds. On the My Stats page you can refund specific transactions. We won't go in and process refunds.

We'll be improving the feedback system but wanted to get started on having it make more sense.
Ok good. Having been the victim of the stolen credit card affiliates, as many here have, I won't risk just a "fraud management" solution and hope that it catches them. I won't risk my Paypal account again and Delayed Payments flat out eliminates the problem completely. They won't apply for your products if they are going to be placed on Delayed Payments.

Also, I added the email (spam I think) part to the original post and just want to confirm that it is spam and not a WF Deal of the Day type of email.
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Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

No that email is not from us. Would you be able to forward it to me so I can take a look - alaister@warriorforum.com

Thanks for your suggestions.
Just forwarded the email to you with full headers
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Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

Just forwarded the email to you with full headers
Thanks for sending that. That email has nothing to do with us.
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For Affiliates:

It would be nice to have an Adsense like App that would pull from our approved links so we could easily add the ads to wordpress or other pages.

Either randomly or by keyword.

Or have the Approved links available by RSS feed.

These would make it easier to promote new WSOs faster.

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I currently sell my software products through Clickbank and through another payment platform using each of those platforms API and IPN functionality.

To put it simply, the idea is that once payment has been confirmed, our software then knows to automatically send the user their registration credentials which gives them access to the software

As I will be soon be starting WSO’s for my software products, I would like to see if I can also integrate ‘Warrior Payments’ as and additional payment platform in all my software apps.

To do that my programmer needs whatever documentation you can provide about the API for Warrior Payments and about the IPN function and coding

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Thank You. The new Warrior Payment option will definitely helpful for warriors.
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What about subscription/recurring models?
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I think this thread was just to tell what updates have already been made. Not so we can ask for the same enhancements over and over that we already told them. JMO

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What about subscription/recurring models?
This thread is where the discussion is: http://www.warriorforum.com/suggesti...ggestions.html
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Whether you like wf payments or not the response to feedback has been amazing.
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Originally Posted by gokulmaba View Post

Thank You. The new Warrior Payment option will definitely helpful for warriors.
I second that great work guys!

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I currently sell my software products through Clickbank and through another payment platform using each of those platforms API and IPN functionality.

To put it simply, the idea is that once payment has been confirmed, our software then knows to automatically send the user their registration credentials which gives them access to the software

As I will be soon be starting WSO’s for my software products, I would like to see if I can also integrate ‘Warrior Payments’ as and additional payment platform in all my software apps.

To do that my programmer needs whatever documentation you can provide about the API for Warrior Payments and about the IPN function and coding
Hi Glen,

Yeh this is the Key Generator functionality. We'll be building this in shortly as well on top of IPN Integration.
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What about subscription/recurring models?
This is coming.
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Originally Posted by gokulmaba View Post

Thank You. The new Warrior Payment option will definitely helpful for warriors.
Originally Posted by VideoRanker View Post

Whether you like wf payments or not the response to feedback has been amazing.
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I second that great work guys!
Thanks very much everyone. We'll be continuing to take your feedback and building it into Warrior Payments!
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This is great news.
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Alaister,

Excellent response to feedback. If this continues warrior payments can become exactly what warriors need.

Delayed affiliate payments should be top of the agenda in my opinion.

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It is good to see these changes...
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This is great news.
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Alaister,

Excellent response to feedback. If this continues warrior payments can become exactly what warriors need.

Delayed affiliate payments should be top of the agenda in my opinion.

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It is good to see these changes...
Thanks for the feedback. We'll be continually improving our product as we go.
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what if we have membership site ?

still need to generate button ?

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Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

I am thinking to launch a WSO using the new system. I am not sure whether the system provides extra tracking variables.

If I use 2 or 3 links in the sales page I would like to know which link brought the sale.

If I send out an email to my list I would like to know which email converted better.

This additional tracking is by the way provided by W+ and JVzoo. Would be great
if the new system would have this as well.
Hi Hans,

Thanks for your message. At this stage we don't have this functionality. We'll be looking to implement though. Let me know once you have released your product using Warrior Payments.

I would love to hear your feedback on the experience.

Thank you
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I still dont see any reason to use WF payments. Still a LOT of features missing. Still very few real affiliates. Also why would I want to build a list up for WF so they can send out their 'pick of the day'. Honestly there is no advantage at all to using WF (except their fee is 2% over 5%) but really that 3% makes a menial difference when you consider all the negatives to using the WF for payments.

Lots of people on here are going to be saying .. oh boy .. so great .. yada yada .. but really how many of them are full time IMers? How many have sold more than a few hundred copies of their products? Probably not many. This for sure is not going to bring back any big names to the WF.

Also looking at the system there is no TOS, no FAQ, no info at all in the Warrior Payments members area. Heck even their TOS just links the the WarrorForums TOS. So basically the launched a payment platform with no TOS or info at all for people using it. They dont even have a privacy policy for the Warrior Payments.

Yea real professional there Alaister. Spitting out a poorly designed payment system with no accountability, or info, really builds my confidence in you.

This entire platform looks like something that was put up in 48 hours from the lowest $3 an hour coder found on Freelancer.com. Personally Im going to RUN away from this thing as fast as they can. Im also going to suggest to all of my blog readers that they refuse to buy anything that uses this system (at least in its current state)

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Hey Alaister!

I love the rapid changes you're making and asking for feedback.

Where is this stats page you speak of?

I can't find my listing in the affiliates area. No way to go back and see if I set it right.

Also, when I did the headline and first paragraph, I clicked view preview - and it showed me, but then it gave me the old school editor again. When I clicked Back in the browser, it erased what I'd done so far. Would be nice to preview but still see the old school editor.

Thanks!
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Money loves speed and getting this new system out there is definitely a wise move for WF. It gives product creators another platform to increase their bottom line!

I plan on going live with my latest, WSO Buy Button Blueprint, today.

Here's my question.

I know that so far, there is no official behind-the-scenes funnel creation. IE, I cannot ensure that buyers are automatically directed to an upsell of the product. They are given the DL page of the FE.

So here's what I did instead:

I created 2 products.

The front end and the GOLD version.

I will be telling my affiliates to request BOTH.

I will be directing my FE buyers to the GOLD version via:
  • The DL page of the FE
  • The FE readme.txt
  • The customer care followup

My question - assuming my affiliate requested BOTH products and I approved said affiliate.....

If a customer buys the GOLD version in the future, will the original affiliate get the credit?

Ie, they do NOT have to DIRECTLY send people via the upsell affiliate link - they can send people to the front end offer and IF the upsell is bought in the future... they'll get credit for the sale.

What say you?

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Hi Glen,

Yeh this is the Key Generator functionality. We'll be building this in shortly as well on top of IPN Integration.
Alaister,

Where will you be posting details of functions updates to the Warrior Payments system as your programmers do them?

Having a dedicated page for that type of thing would be ideal, because there's multiple threads going on here discussion all this.

And has IPN integration happened as yet, because I need information on that to provide to my programmer.

I really need details about integrating IPN coding into my software products
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<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> Alaister,

Something I’m confused about,

I want to post a new WSO.

I go to the Warrior Special Offer forum and click the ‘ Create a New WSO’ button.

Then the ‘Warrior Payment’ section opens where it appears I now being forced to sell my WSO’s through the new Warrior Payments platform?

I can’t sell my software products that way right now?

I need set up my WSO which will be sold through Clickbank.

So how do I go about setting that up?

With the ‘old’ system there was a choice to use Warrior + or whatever

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Another thing Alaister, and this is rather important....

When creating the WSO draft copy, I requested a button that shows up on my Wordpress Site.

I'm now getting ready to make it live.

So I visit the Get Buy Button Page.

And I see the sales page url is directed to my WP site. Yay!

So I then click on

Post offer on Warrior Forum.

That's not it because the only option is, Submit New Thread.

So I click on

Add button to existing Warrior Forum Offer

And I see I can select a WF Offer.

I am assuming that WHEN I pay for my thread, I select this offer and the WSO button will be automatically replaced?

(I noticed how you can select prior threads and the buy buttons are automatically replaced).

Or do I have to create a new offer once more?

Thanks!

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Would love to see these issues answered first before anything else

Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

I still dont see any reason to use WF payments. Still a LOT of features missing. Still very few real affiliates. Also why would I want to build a list up for WF so they can send out their 'pick of the day'. Honestly there is no advantage at all to using WF (except their fee is 2% over 5%) but really that 3% makes a menial difference when you consider all the negatives to using the WF for payments.

Lots of people on here are going to be saying .. oh boy .. so great .. yada yada .. but really how many of them are full time IMers? How many have sold more than a few hundred copies of their products? Probably not many. This for sure is not going to bring back any big names to the WF.

Also looking at the system there is no TOS, no FAQ, no info at all in the Warrior Payments members area. Heck even their TOS just links the the WarrorForums TOS. So basically the launched a payment platform with no TOS or info at all for people using it. They dont even have a privacy policy for the Warrior Payments.

Yea real professional there Alaister. Spitting out a poorly designed payment system with no accountability, or info, really builds my confidence in you.

This entire platform looks like something that was put up in 48 hours from the lowest $3 an hour coder found on Freelancer.com. Personally Im going to RUN away from this thing as fast as they can. Im also going to suggest to all of my blog readers that they refuse to buy anything that uses this system (at least in its current state)

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Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

I need set up my WSO which will be sold through Clickbank.

So how do I go about setting that up?

With the ‘old’ system there was a choice to use Warrior + or whatever
Doing WSOs the old way is still allowed with this link
http://www.warriorforum.com/newthrea...newthread&f=17
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Well I have discovered one bug.

It appears that if you set up a WSO and set the buy button to a self-hosted page, you CANNOT switch it back.

When I clicked on, Add button to existing Warrior Forum offer and selected [BARBLING] HOT, FRESH: NEWBIE FRIENDLY 2014 WSO Buy Button Blueprint Can Even TRIPLE Your Sales! , the code did NOT appear in the box.

When I tried clicking Update, I received

"The message you entered is too short, please try again"

and then my original sales copy BB code was displayed.

When I copy/pasted in the straight BB code, the update seemed to go thru BUT the affiliates link STILL points to my wordpress site.

Should I just start a new WSO button that goes directly to the WF?

These things happen. Sales can be made, are being made, but affiliate links are going straight to my Wordpress site and NOT the WF.

UPDATE - Alaister, I re-submitted the WF post again. When it's approved, I'll deactivate the current offer.

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Hey Warriors!

I'm confused. Perplexed. Baffled. Even had other Warriors take a look and they're lost, too.

I ran my first test WSO through Warrior Payments. It's showing up fine as a WSO. But the problem is, it's nowhere to be found INSIDE the affiliate area.

Settings look good (and btw I HATE that black and white button thing - let me fill in a circle or have it not filled in). But nope, it's not there.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Here's how it's set up:





I had some friends try searching by product listing name AND by my username - nothing.

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I can report the same thing Tiffany experienced - just submitted

WSO Buy Button Blueprint II

at

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...our-sales.html

but it doesn't show up in the marketplace:



Here are my settings:



Ideas? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

Doing WSOs the old way is still allowed with this link
http://www.warriorforum.com/newthrea...newthread&f=17
Thank you.

They sure keep that option well hidden.

Both WSO set up options should be clearly displayed
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Alaister,

With the barrage of questions hitting here, when you get the functions settled, and the ‘bugs’ sorted out, it’s essential you get someone in your organization to create tutorial videos showing how to set up a WSO in detail using you ‘Warrior Payment’ platform.

That should help the majority of people understand things clearly.

That is better than having to field questions individually,

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Re: 25th July 2014 Warrior Payments Update
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Alaister,

With the barrage of questions hitting here, when you get the functions settled, and the ‘bugs’ sorted out, it’s essential you get someone in your organization to create tutorial videos showing how to set up a WSO in detail using you ‘Warrior Payment’ platform.

That should help the majority of people understand things clearly.

That is better than having to field questions individually,
Hi Glen,

Thanks for that. That's a great suggestion. We're actually in the process of creating some training and how to videos right now.
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