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I'm really interested in this, but I can't join at the moment. Ah the holidays and $! I do have some questions though since I am a noob. The one website I work on right now is at MoneySavingLisa.com and since I'm new to IM, I'm wondering what would be good keywords to target? There are a lot of websites like mine, and I'm wondering if picking a few key words and driving them to some of pages might be better for ranking and earning traffic? My website mainly offers amazon deals, printable coupons, store scenarios etc. |
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I placed my first order id paypal 7CN50576T82449322...also sent info by ticket i will be contacted or the project go on withouth comunication? thanks Maury |
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HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2011
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I dunno! Christmas Eve and still buying WSOs Just purchased the 3 month drop feed. |
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Just wanted to jump in here and say I signed up for this a few weeks ago for one of my sites and am seeing improvement in my rankings. If things keep going well I will be using this for all my sites. Thanks Matt |
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Here is yet another top recommendation! I purchased Matt's package a while ago, and have done nothing but sit back and check the site ranking occasionally. I have been very impressed with his determination to get my main competitive keyword on to page one. Now he has!!! Congratulations, Matt and team. I will be signing up for more and assure anyone reading this that if they go ahead and hit the buy button they won't regret it! Thank You |
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hi again, I have just send moneyfor 3 months. Transaction id is:36P68016ET589112K Thanks |
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is there any software to check the site ranking for the a particular keyword, like how it is moving up or down? | |
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Hi Matt, I am looking to buy 26 12month packages for 26 new sites (am I limitied or can I buy 26?) all in the same niche...some of the keywords for one site may also be keywords I choose for other sites...the plan is to own multiple spots for those keywords on page 1...is that possible and will there be any issues with all those websites getting their links soley from your network to begin with? Thanks, Riz |
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I do not believe there is any such thing as the sandbox.
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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You're mistaken. We no longer create blogs or do keyword research as part of this service. Please reread the first post on this thread to learn what now comes with the offer. Thanks.
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Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Location: USA
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Repeat buyer here. Just purchased the 3-month drip feed. Looking forward to seeing more great results. Thanks in advance Matt! |
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in content article links are good!
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HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2010 Location: Toronto
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Hello everyone This is my 4th order that reach page one in google, I started to work with matt and his team an year ago, excellent results and today received an email to confirm that my website is page one. Took time, was a competitive niche, be patience.. Like another person said heck it's well worth it I am there now. Thanks |
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Let me start off by saying that I am no SEO expert and this testimonial comes because I wanted to share what Matt's service has done to my client's website. I purchased Matt's offer for guaranteed ranking on Page 1 of Google for any one of 5 keywords. Since it was a guaranteed ranking, my client gave a list of some very competitive keywords. Most of them were one keyword phrase and the website was not anywhere in the top 100 and when I say website, this is a salespage we are talking about which makes ranking even more competitive. After the payment, I monitored the rankings and there was little to no improvement during the initial months while I got updates on the article submission. When I contacted Matt, he reassured me and asked me to be patient since ranking for competitive keywords takes time. To be honest, after this message, both my client and I were busy with other projects and almost never even checked the rankings. However from time to time, I would get email notifications from Matt on article submissions. Again not in the top 100. But Matt just kept submitting articles and continued sending me the email notifications and this week, he showed me a screenshot of a competitive keyword my client had choosen that ranked on Page 1. It took time as he said and he delivered as he promised. The best part was neither my client nor me did anything else in terms of SEO other than purchase Matt's service. Matt reminds me of Joe Pesci in Casino- relentless and ruthless. He just kept submitting articles. After a point, I didn't think it would work. As I said, I am no SEO expert (personally speaking I don't like SEO, but I give what my client wants) and post Panda, I am even more confused regarding what actually works today. But his team persisted and persisted and persisted and it worked. I don't believe in Push button systems but I would reckon this is as close to Push button in terms of service. Without doubt, my client would use his services again and again. Thanks Matt. |
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Hi, I keep reading about this but I can for the life of me find nowhere to give it a try. I certainly am interested in this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. MK |
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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You can sign up by clicking the sign up buttons that are located near the bottom of the very first post on this thread. Thanks. | ||
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I placed 5 orders in the last 48 hrs. Reason: Matt was going to increase the price after Christmas. I created 4 brand new sites in 24 hrs. I didn't want to miss that price of $50 for 3 months subscription. Now that matt has increased the price($35 for 1 month), I am happy that I really took advantage of those prices. But even now, I want those prices back as I am in the process of creating many more sites in the coming weeks. Matt, whenever you decide to offer that price, just PM me. I would place 5-10 more orders immediately. Looking forward to see some GREAT results. |
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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I received a ton of emails asking us to switch back to our previous pricing given that it is the holiday season and all. So for a limited time only we will offer the following pricing: 3 Months -- $50 https://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/gb.php...ngle&cl=132973 12 Months -- $125 https://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/gb.php...ngle&cl=132973 |
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TheDotComGal.com War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: BlogLand
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Hi Matt, I am interested in your offer. I already have purchased the "Google Page 1 Rank" offer and so far I am happy as my rankings are going higher slowly ![]() Just to double-check I am getting this WSO right: 1. I give you my website URL and keywords. 2. You create a blog around the keywords. Do you pick the domain name for me? or do I have to buy it myself? 3. My site will be on Google page one for my keywords 4. question: can the link be an affiliate link? Thanks, Houda |
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Hi Matt, I am a repeat buyer of your services =) (especially these 2 weeks I buy more than 10 packages) can buy more and submit within 2 weeks? recently I have checked an see the first page guarantee package and 5000 guaranteed article services are closed. Are you considering to open them again? or can we contact you for page 1 guarantee rankings and get a quote based on our keywords? Thanks Ozan |
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| ![]() Re: Grab 100 Push Button Daily Article Links For As Low As 70 Cents A Day (Rivers Of Testimonials!!!
1) Yes 1 URL 5 keywords 2) Nope he is only backlinking daily 100 article backlinks. 3) Nope , no guarantee, the guarantee service is currently closed 9we are hoping it back as well) 4) Better to ask him, but I do not think it will make a problem if your website and links are not related to gambling and sexual content. I hope I could be helpful | |
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hi matt any news about the new software? |
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Hi Matt, I just ordered the 12 month package for a site I haven't built yet because I wanted to lock in the low price before it is discontinued. Can I submit my URL and keywords later after I've built the site? It should just take me a few days to get the articles that I outsourced and I should be ready to go. Thanks |
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This guy deliver's on his promise, it took a while but that's the reality of seo is that it takes time, just reached page one rank 9 on google. So far so good.
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Started with Matt's page one service back on 10/2, was on page one by 10/21... but they didnt stop there! Kept with submissions for around a month afterwards, boosting keywords as follows: KW 1: 10/2- Page 4, 11/1 - Page 1 Slot Three KW 2: 10/2 - Page 2, 11/1 - Page 1 Bottom Slot KW 3: 10/2 - Page 8, 11/1 - Page 1 Slot Two KW 4: 10/2 - Page 2, 11/1 - Page 1 Slot One KW 5: 10/2 - Page 11, 11/1 - Page 2 Slot Three KW's were not super competitive, but the quick jump was awesome for business. I owe a lot to Matt's services (including the 5k articles submission which got me to slot one for 7/10 major keywords!) Thanks Matt, probably gonna buy the new service as well! |
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I can't thank you enough! I've used Matt's service on all my sites, and it was thanks to this service that I made my first money online. For all my sites, my ranking went from not in the Top 100 to Front Page on Google in 1 Week! ![]() ![]() Note: I'm not an affiliate or associate of Matt's in any way and do not stand to profit in any way from leaving this review. I just wanted to express my sincere heartfelt gratitude. ![]() |
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Dear Matt, I would like to thank you first for this great service you are offering. I would like to ask if your affiliate program is alive as I can see some posts about it here-above... In fact, I have signed up for your affiliate program on october 14 and since did not get any reply from you and my account were under approval. I tried today to login but apparently my username/password has been removed! I signed up again today wishing to get approved. Thanks. -Fadi |
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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None yet. Our developer seems to still be in mourning as he has not completed our project. It's putting us in an uncomfortable position I might add. We may have to find another developer to finish the project.
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I submitted a ticket and I'm not getting a response! it's been 3 days, please let me know how can I get a refund |
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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No problem on the refund. I searched your Warrior Forum name on our ticket system and couldn't find any ticket from you. If you PM your ticket id I'll have Danielle issue the refund.
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the workaholic War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: new delhi, india
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i just bought one from the classified section here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...timonials.html Is there any difference between the two?... I have seen your sample in the warroom, after seeing that, I was like... Your the one I have been looking for... Just a trial package here, hope it works out great like the one before... 101 pages of comments on the same thread... you are the reall guy! Thanks |
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Hi One of my website disappear from rank 1 for few years to unknown rank now after this year updates. It possible to push it back to page one with your service? Regards Hash |
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I can answer this one. Definitely Yes! I had this same issue with one of my sites. The site had been unseen in the SERPs for about a year. Just before I gave up on it I decided to buy a package from Matt and it's not only back but it is hanging around #2 on page one for it's main keyword and page 1 for numerous other terms. You'll need to be patient and let his process do its work though. It can take a bit to dig a site out of the gutter that has been gone that long. But I've seen it myself and it definitely does work. ![]() TJ |
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Hi The problem is i think my website was completely delisted from google and i don't know why.. |
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Old School SEO Ninja War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Mason, MI 48854
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Hard to tell Hash. It depends on why G delisted your site. Your site may have some issues even a steady supply of links can fix.
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I bought several of your page one guarantee packages several months ago and I was just wondering if I could change the url and keywords for those packages as I can for these new 100 article links a day packages?
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Hi matt So what is your suggestion? This page still rank 1 in yahoo but not a single page in google.. |
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Just purchased a package. Look forward to buying more later, once results are in in a few weeks or so... Thanks, |
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| ![]() Re: Grab 100 Push Button Daily Article Links For As Low As 34 Cents A Day (Rivers Of Testimonials!!! Review: My 7th site got on First Page of Google few days back. Matt's service is a turn-key solution. I signed up with this service few months back and all I have to give is the URL(s) and keywords and then from there they took it and started to make it happen. They didn't need anything else from me. They usually send ranking reports once every month or whenever you ask them. and the reports showed me that my site was going from 100th, to 60th, to 40th, to 20th and then two of my keywords jumped right into the first page of results on many of the Search Engines (of course including Google) and other keywords were on Page 2 and 3. And, that's really what's important these days. My website relies on traffic that is coming from Search Engines, and Matt's service boosts that traffic by numbers that just can't be ignored. This site took 4 months to hit the Page 1 but SEO takes time. I wish to see that Page 1 Ranking service relaunched because I need it badly for many of my other websites. |
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Hi matt, Sent you payment. Transaction id 2ulpdoncmob17z6rke6y Thank you Hash |
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To Matt and his team: I wish you guys a Happy and Healthy 2012! I am very happy with the way you guys work and the service that you maintain. I just recieved messages about a few of my sites being on page 1. So don't give it another thought and just hop on board! Best regards Renske |
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Just signed up, looking forward to the results. Best, Michael |
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Looks like a great service! I just signed up. Very fast response too! Dave |
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I bought several guaranteed page one rankings. Three and a half months later, 4 of the 6 sites are on page one and the other ones are rising up. Great service! Just bought more 12-months drip feed campaigns. Matt definitely delivers.
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Hi Matt, I am ordering my first 3 months membership also. Can you accept Paypal? Please PM me your Paypal email. Thanks Brian |
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Matt can we buy several packages if we have more than one site to promote?
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Yet another keyword hits page one! Matt, what a brilliant new year present! Thank you as always! You truly are amazing! ![]() |
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Hi Matt. I've just put an order in, Paypal ID - 4PE762272B422811G. Can you confirm please & i'll sent on the project details. Many Thanks. |
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Hi Matt, Can't send you PM since I don't have enough posts. Please email me at tourmenlo@gmail.com, have few questions before ordering. Thanks, menlo |
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