Chris Baxter

Oh dear......... where do we get these people? :-)

Jeremy Kelsall

Now that I've got that out of my system.......LOL

You don't rank a domain name..You rank pages, you rank content...you can buy a gazillion PR99999999999900000000000 backlinks and you still aren't going to get the results you want.

tnimz

Works fine for me...

wrays

@clickbankreviewer, this is a good question but so far it seems like nobody has positive result on this one yet.

Before you run your redirect domain on SES, make sure you see if it is indexed by google --> type in "site:yourdomain.com" in google (without the quotes).

I have one domain that redirects to my affiliate link and it's indexed by google, but I have not run it on SES yet because the keyword is super competitive. Instead I write a few ezine articles targeting on less competitve keywords, place my redirect domain in my author's resource box and then use SES to help to rank the articles.

Paul Myers

biggunz, There is a large difference between "similar" and "nearly identical language on the interface."

When two pieces of software have identical options and interface language, it's reasonable to wonder if one is a clone of the other. The odds against two separate people choosing those exact sets of words for two separate programs are quite high.

Especially telling: the duplicated typo of the word "Max." Or "Example: Red Shoe Site" and "Example: Sword Site."


Paul

caseyallen

Paul, I've explained this alread to Thomas. Will I have to explain it every day?

PMing you back.

BTW Paul, Biggunz was being sarcastic at the other members wanting to know that. He was joking. Read the rest of his post, and you'll see that he was being funny.

Paul Myers

Mr Allen,

Thank you for the explanation. It doesn't appear there's anything nefarious going on here. Just different versions of a product based on a purchased code base. Perfectly legitimate.

That said, this doesn't qualify as a WSO under the current rules. It is the functional equivalent of re-worked PLR, which is expressly disallowed in this section.

This needs to be moved to the classifieds section.


Paul

DonDavis

This software is PLR? What?

Zukario

I purchased this software but i did received any proxies to use this software can anybody tell me how to get these proxies plz.

Paul Myers

Don, Not quite. Mr Allen is one of a few people who bought the base code and reworked it, which explains the interface language. He's not selling any kind of rights other than personal use, as far as I've noticed.


Paul

IndieRetailer

Ah... so, kinda like a used car salesman that pulls a car out of the junk yard, turns back the odometer, gets the engine running, gives it a shiny paint job and sells it as new? "Nothing else like it" for sure. Interesting.

Okay, so the car runs now. Still think it was represented dishonestly.

By the way, thanks for following up on this Paul.

Casey, I also don't appreciate how you dodged the whole inquiry. I was more than fair with a legitimate concern and instead of providing an honest answer, you sided with an immature goon. As much as I appreciate you supporting the product you've reworked, you've lost some integrity with poor damage control.

SteveSki

Thanks for adding those Casey.... However, I'm not sure if SE Sniper really helped or not as I only ran it overnight one time on this particular site and the site was already ranking on the bottom of page one for over a month. It may have been been other factors like adding new relevant content and pages to the site everyday and on site SEO that eventually got it there.

But I was stuck at the bottom of page one and a week after using SE Sniper one time on this site it zoom to the top of the page!

Cheers,
Steve

Jeremy Kelsall

Kind of unfair, wouldn't you say?

When is the last time any software hit the market that was "one of a kind"?

I was aware of the other software and OWN it, but it hasn't worked since I had XP installed on my computer.

Casey reworked code, created a forum and community for members, provided proxies, and gives other SEO advice. If THIS isn't a NEW product, I think that 99% of the wares sold both in the WSO and across the net should be called into question.

IndieRetailer

Maybe a bit. I'm trying to keep an open mind about the product and again, I do appreciate how he supports it. However, I'm still not impressed at how he dodged the questions from a paying customer and sided with someone who was acting completely disrespectful. I also think the "Nothing else like it!" is misrepresenting and perhaps over the top.

I also think Casey would regain some lost respect by answering for himself instead of letting others stick up for him. No offense to you, I appreciate you for wanting to express your opinions as well... but Casey hasn't addressed this issue to his paying customers at all, and that's just bad business.

Banshu Ben

Back in the old days, Casey would be called a VAR (Value-Added-Reseller), someone who got an older software, added more value to it and sold it under their own brand.. It was perfectly legitimate, the company I worked for usually sold their products to these VARs. It's like Mitusbishi engines under the Chrysler's hoods.

We can even go as far back to QDOS from Seattle Computer Products - if some of you remember your computer history.

freddo

I'll echo Jeremy's comments on Casey's stand-up customer support and will put in my .02 cents that even if this is a 'reworked product', so what? It's a "better mousetrap" and it DOES work and it works very well... I'm very satisfied with it.

Yeah, so I'm a relative noob in the IM biz, but have bought junk software in the past that promised "this and that" and didn't even come close ...

I can tell you this IS a quality product and A1 customer support.

Kudos to Casey and team.

caseyallen

@Jeremy Thanks man! Appreciate that, and exactly how I feel. Couldn't have said it better myself.

@freddo, Thanks alot!

@Indie, I still don't have proof you're a customer, first of all. You won't return any requests for proof.

Also, I've answered all questions. And YES there is NOTHING else like this on the market. I've engineered my app differently on the inside, something you wouldn't see.

So until you buy the app, please don't ask me any further questions. Thanks

wrays

@Zukario,

RTFM --> read this file: "Your_Proxies_READ".

But, please please DO NOT place the link here!!!

Jeremy Kelsall

I'm not sticking up for Casey, just to be clear...just throwing my 2 cents in early on what I'm sure will be a long and drawn out debate

IndieRetailer

Wow...! That's rich! You KNOW I'm a customer because I've posted an issue with trying to activate the program and YOU responded! You haven't sent me ANY requests for anything... my email address from Paypal is the same as my username here. You haven't sent anything here in PM requesting anything and I've posted requests for support in your SESniper forum with my transaction ID.

Again, I'm not so much questioning the product or it's effectiveness. I couldn't even say whether it works or not.. I can say that it hasn't worked for me yet. But again, I'm trying to stay open minded with it.

I DO have issues with how you're managing your responses here and think you could have handled this whole issue a LOT better.

caseyallen

I have issues with your constant harassment, but I haven't said anything about it.

If you are a customer, please PM me, and I'll apologize. PM me with your name/email you purchased with, and I'll eat my words. =)

IndieRetailer

Duly noted. Didn't mean to insinuate that you were, but others have and we've heard little from CA whereas he should really be the only one answering for himself and his product.

IndieRetailer

I'm sorry you see it as "harassment". It certainly isn't intended to be. Had you responded to our concerns in the first place in a dignified manner, I wouldn't have to keep asking. And I wasn't the only one who asked. You also dodged Paul without responding to him either. You have to understand that when someone puts up that kind of money for a product and receives that kind of indifference to inquiries, it's going to raise some suspicions.

Now that I have enough posts to PM you with my info, I will.

caseyallen

I've already responded to these questions 3+ times in this thread. It wasn't due to support, bugs, features, etc, so I felt 3 times was 2 times too many to answer that question. Plus in the past 2 pages, I've been harassed 10 or so times about the same question, yes HARASSED.

You even said that you had a support question and I answered it. So that's all I need to answer. Otherwise get a refund if you're not happy with it. =) Simple as that.

This is an area for support, questions about the product, etc, NOT questions about why/how I made the product.

Are we going to have this conversation all day/night, every day? I surely hope not, as I am entirely too busy for that.

Someone with time to fritter away, but not me sir.

IndieRetailer

"Are we going to have this conversation...." Nope... It's become obvious that we're having two different conversations here. Not much point in continuing. I got the answer I came for... unfortunately, it wasn't from you.

qotsa

1+ for that.
I have never seen so much question dodging and reporting/removing posts in my life. Also, Indie was never rude to you casey, he just asked for an answer politely without throwing any accusations. You started having a go at him for just asking a question. The fact that you didn't respond to anyone and still have said practically nothing about it publicly is just shady.


You say get a refund, but a few pages back there are complaints saying that you are not following through with you 14/60 day satisfaction guarantee.

caseyallen

Forget about your other account complaining. If you wanted a refund and you're within your 14 days, it's yours. I actually urge you to get it.

A wise SES user said "Never do business with anyone who doesn't want to do business with you".

So PLEASE get a refund, if that will stop you from posting in my thread.

qotsa

Did I hit a nerve? You're very trigger happy on the fake account accusations.

So it takes people to bring up issues you don't like to get you to follow your own rules?

kbye.

caseyallen

AND... it didn't help. =) You're still here. WOW.

IndieRetailer

Still waiting on your apology, by the way.

DonDavis

Come on... enough already.

caseyallen

Indie, looked up your info, and you're indeed a customer, for the last 5 days. So, I just ate my words. =) And I apologize for accusing you of not being a customer.

The others however I still don't know about. Anyone can post a screenshot, so I won't apologize to them, until I get a PM with the name/email they purchased with.

Don.. OVERLY Agreed!! Enough is enough.

qotsa

Don't act like the victim of a horde of spammers who just wanted to harass you for fun without reason.
If you just gave a straight answer (which YOU still haven't, but Paul explained it to us) and didn't report/remove posts and act like anyone asking questions was attacking you, I'm sure this issue could have been solved without much drama.

As paul pointed out, here is the first rule of WSO's:

The Rules:

1. All WSO's Must Be Something You Created. A Product Of Your Own. (A package of ebooks someone threw together is not considered a product and will be deleted) This is completely self explanatory and not up for debate. If you yourself did not create the product do not post it here.

/offline

octars

Alright, the Drama is OVER , lets move on with Tips, Trick and how to made profit with Sesniper

Paul Myers

For the record: I have no opinion on the product, the customer service, or anything else related to this offer. My only interest is the application of the rules in as even a way as I can manage.

Jeremy's interpretation notwithstanding, the rules are quite clear on this. It's a rework of a product based on code sold to multiple people. It is PLR software, and sufficiently similar to at least one other product on the market as to not be unique enough to have escaped that status.

On the flip side, if Google Dominion is completely original, this offer can stay in the WSO section, since the software is a bonus. One that's taken over the offer, but a bonus.

But the title of the thread is all about the software. So, is it really a bonus, or is that the "way around the rule?"

Hmmm...

Just musing about something... I find it interesting that a piece of software that is designed to create the impression of more page views than really existed should have such an unusual number of views for its WSO thread.

I don't have access to the logs, so that's just an interesting observation.


Paul

Chris Baxter

IndieRetailer, qotsa et al,

As a purchaser of this software, I only care about four things:

1. Does it do what it says it does?
2. Does the seller have the legal intellectual property rights to sell it?
3. Is there reasonable after sales support?
4. Is it fairly priced?

And as far as I can see, the answer is YES to all four counts.

Does it matter that there are other "clone" products available? Not really.

After all, if I was a dodgy character, I could quite easily get a freelancer to reverse engineer Casey's app and make my own version to sell.

In fact, if you search through the various WSO's, you'll see many software apps that are virtually identical (just look at domain name finders as an example)

If you feel the software would benefit you, then buy it. If not, don't.

But please stop whining in this thread. I'm starting to thing you have some kind of ulterior motive or agenda.

Chris Baxter

Hi Paul,

As an "unconnected" purchaser, I think I can explain the high view count.

There is a lot of discussion by users about the best settings to get this software to perform at its best.

I've personally bookmarked this thread and check it at least once every day - usually a couple of times.

In addition, it's not uncommon for potential users to ask questions and these are sometimes answered by actual users (if they are relatively simple)

You only need to look at the number of actual (verifiable) posts and correlate that with thread views, and it is probably consistent with other popular WSOs.

Just my thoughts.

Chris.

PS Is cyberskyfox aka Clickbankreviewer aka Clickbankreviewer1? If so, we should be told as this thread needs more drama!

Paul Myers

Woggy,

Just musing. The page view/reply ratios aren't that far out of kilter, but it's an interesting thought. I'm not convinced of anything either way on the subject.

If you look at the current first page of the WSO section, you'll see one that really is out of kilter. 10 replies by people other than the merchant, and somehow it tallied up 414,000 page views in 12 days.

41,400 views per non-merchant reply? Nah. (I asked, and he says they looked at it and found a glitch. If so, the number is nothing but an illusion created by the forum software.)

And people wonder why I hate non-proportional automated marketing systems...


Paul

IndieRetailer

Thanks for your unsolicited input, Woggy. But I really don't give a crap what you care about as I'm not spending your money. I'm spending MY money. I was done with this discussion and my inquiry with Casey several posts ago. And if you look back on my posts, NONE of them were of a "whining" nature and there was NO other agenda than to find an answer to your Number 2. Now YOU'RE the one that's rehashing this nonsense.

I'm done with it and have no interest in discussing it further or questioning Casey about anything other than getting it to function as it should. However, if you or anyone else feels compelled to come on the thread and try to throw around unprovoked accusations and insults, you damn well better know that I'm going to defend myself.

All of my questions and/or concerns are addressed to whom they should be, Casey. He's certainly capable of answering for himself and doesn't need your, or anyone else's help.

Paul Myers

Calm down, folks. Let Casey handle his business, and let the rest of us butt out.


Paul

takeaction24

Hi Djory,

I just tried it here in the uk and it came up in less than 2 seconds.

Hope this helps

All The Best

Nev

Paul Myers

The site loads for me. No issues there.

Maybe some sort of URL blacklist? Those can create odd problems of availability. Any of you folks with problems using McAfee or some other security suite, other than Norton? (I'm using Norton, so I know that one isn't an issue.)


Paul

takeaction24

You are unreal to say the least.

How about the well respected so called Gurus that sell rehased Junk E-books and products that don't work in todays climate. Old rehashed BS that was created 2 years ago.

I guess that is ok right because they put a different sales page, different cover and different name.

The internet is full of copycats but atleast this works and is current. Are you really so blind that you cannot see that everything on the net is copied over and over again ?

If someone wants to take somebody elses code and re-work it then that is legal providing there is a change of around 30%. Casey is changing things all the time and adding new features so I don't think what he is doing is wrong.

Now if He is and you believe he is a dishonest crook then that goes for the majority of marketers that claim the products they are selling or have sold are exclusively what they created.

Get real man and wake up and smell the coffee we live in a world of copycats.

Example:

How many article writing softwares are there out there ?

Hundreds and they all derived from one so they are all copied but improved over time.

Admitingly SES looks blatingly similar to the other one but there are going to be changes made and it will be improved so if Casey is guilty then I guess All the creators and programmers are.

P.S. I will give you an example of a Physical product.

The guy who invented the hair clip got a patent for it.

Then another guy put little zig zag bends in it and he also got a patent.

So my point is everything all over the world is copied and that is life.

I rest my Case

Paul Myers

I suggest you speak to an intellectual property attorney before acting on that misimpression. It will save you a lot of headaches.

As I've been told the details, Casey is not doing anything wrong in that department. He paid the creator for the right to use the base code. Not a copyright issue, which was my initial concern, and which has since been answered satisfactorily.

As for the rest... Y'all need to stop with the nasty. If you're a customer and have questions or comments about the product, Casey can handle them.

The rest of the BS stops now, please.


Paul

IndieRetailer

This is not your case to rest.

Really... when are you all going to let this thing rest...? I've basically shook hands with Casey a while ago. But you guys just want to keep going.

There's so many holes in your argument, but I don't care to go into it with you because again, there's nothing left to discuss. Let it go.

Paul Myers

True.

The bickering in a WSO thread is my case to rest, and I will if they don't stop.

I'd rather it die out on its own, if they'll let it. If not, they get one of my fabulous free vacation certificates. Good for a week or a month outside of the Warrior Forum. All they have to do is raise their hands and claim it. Or not.

I'd personally prefer not. So far, it looks like a lot of people with good intentions getting carried away and a bit heated. That happens, but we don't allow it as much leeway in this section of the forum.


Paul

djbory

Thanks Casey, thanks guys; I finally downloaded it. I navigated the internet using proxies and I was able to do it that way... Now it is time to put this to work!

linklover

The software works to get more click for the chosen keywords. My GWT shows a huge surge in impressions and clicks.

My SERPS on the other hand are very mixed. Several kws way down on list list have improved by hundreds of points, many dropped as well... many that have been hovering mid page one have slipped and are having a hard time recovering.

This past few days I've been seeing large jumps up and down... almost like this is causing the G dance with very one of the kws. I cannot see any clear patterns.

I've been tempted to either shut it down or scale it back, but decided to let it run a while longer and see what happens. I suppose it is not wise to just shut it down since i expect a just as large drop in clicks which may set off alarm bells.

I'm also building links as i go so that may have something to do with the dancing.

h_al

My review after 5 days: My domains were on page 4 and 6. I've been running the software for 5 days. There has been NO changes to the SERPs. I doubt that the reviews were honest. Nevertheless, I will wait few days and reply back, although I don't think anything will change. To be honest, I'm rather disappointed. People claimed to have results within few hours, and reached page #1 on Google for highly competitive keywords... yeah right!

caseyallen

@Paul, Thanks for your post. Appreciated!

And no I haven't used the app on this thread. No way I'd try to boost this thread over my actual website. =)

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@Woggy, couldn't have said it better!

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@djbory, Glad you finally got it! =)

Also yesterday I emailed it to you via email attachment, probably landed in your spam/junk. It's 2mb.

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@Joseph, My words put in poetry! =)

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@H_al, that guarantee is for Clickbank now, as I'm not selling exclusively through clickbank to cut down on headaches.

On the wso page, I've only been selling on clickbank for the past 4 or so days. Before that you would've seen the 14 day guarantee.

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If anyone has requested a refund, and never got it, did you do it properly or in this thread? I can not possibly read every single post, answer 500 emails/tickets, and go about my regular operations. BUT I do read every single email/ticket.. so that's the way to do it, as I definitely see that.

You do, however have to be within the refund period for the purchase. If you purchased via paypal it is 14 day guarantee. If it is clickbank you have a full 60 days.

Hope this helps