Eddie J

I haven't done any backlinking at all. I'm still kicking around ideas on how to do it. Link wheels, pyramids, blog comments, xrumer.... I just dont know yet. I asked one of the OPs for advice a few hours ago...I'm sure I'll hear from him soon with some ideas.

ANyone can chime in too!!!!

Thanks
Eddie

goviralnow

Just to let you all know. It works the same with Platinum SEO as with All In One SEO. Awesome plugin

goviralnow

Hey Eddie, do you spin all your content or just put in same post for all? Great stats. Are they done through ranking software or are you checking through different ip/proxy?

Andres: If creating a huge number of pages in batches, do you just add more cities to db and keep the ones already created? So first 400 names stay in db while next 400 pages are being built with same article? Also, it has been mentioned that you don't need to spin but it seems Panda is going to pick up and throw out more sites with duplicate content? Do you recommend spinning? If so, does anyone have any suggestions as to what percent is good for this plugin?

Thanks. I just checked out update. It's great and fixed a few issues I was wondering about.

Also, when deleting lots of pages, doesn't this potentially create broken links?

Apologies for dumb questions.

eQuus

To the few regulars who have posted scores of "I don't know why don't you read the posts before asking the same freakin' question over and over ..." I'd like to say that I find you as guilty as the those who can't read in inflating the number of redundant posts on this thread. So cut it out.

eQuus

If I tell you I'll have to kill you.

deltamatrix

On the permalinks do a custom one. Either:

/%postname%/

or

/%category%/%postname%/

I like the second one for an extra keyword and some separation of post titles, but some folks like the first one. Suit yourself on that one.

For backlinks I do the main domain. I'm also looking for ways to backlink and promote thousands of posts. I think the easiest way might be to create RSS feeds of the post URLs and submit them to RSS directories and also ping the RSS feeds. Bulk backlinkers are the way to go with this many posts/pages.

lefty359

I just want to say that the new video by Jeremy is flat out excellent!

Jeremy Kelsall

To everyone that is thinking about ways to build backlinks, or is stressing about actually building them...I wanted to touch on a couple things...

1. I personally hardly EVER backlink these sites - EVER and when I do, I usually set a few of the pages a day up with Mega Link Blaster - You Control The Flow (coupon code MLB5742 for $20 off) .

2. You don't have to rank every single post/page in the first page, first position or even just on the first page. If you can get EVEN 1 post/page on the first page, that is more than enough to get a prospective clients attention.

3. Don't lose sight of what the "prize" is - You don't win a prize for ranking on the first spot or first page. The PRIZE IS MAKING A PROFIT. I would rather have one post/page on the first page that made me a profit than to have 500 pages/posts ranking on the first page that didn't make me a dime.

It's VERY IMPORTANT for everyone to sit down and come up with a PLAN OF ACTION...one that is suitable for their comfort level and skill set, and make a promise to themselves, their significant other, their kids, whatever it takes to make a profit from the results that they get.

You can look high and low, and you won't see Don and I talking about how much money we make from pretty much anything, but I will tell you this...This tool has the ability to make ANYONE a FULL TIME income, and when I say a full time income, I'm not talking about a full time minimum wage income...I'm talking about a full time PROFESSIONAL INCOME.

1. Figure out which way you are going to monetize

2. Build sites

3. Track results

4. Implement your monetization strategy

5. Profit

6. tweak - Repeat - profit again

Carlsbadd

Right on Jeremy,

I have followed you guys for a while. This is not something that should be overlooked.
Play it smart and bank hard.

I do have a little blank spot if you have time. Say I wanted to do some backlinking , how effective would it be to scrape box the sitemap? Zero hinted at this before but if you don't want to answer in public PM me.
Or what would be a shortcut to backlink 200 or 300 posts?

By the way I got two more conversions from my experiment site today (at $47.50 per conversion) that I hardly touched, duplicate content, so far $142.50 for a hours work. About 3/4 of the site indexed.Sweet

Jeremy Kelsall

lol - Don does it all the time, and it usually works out well.

Carlsbadd

Cool, thanks
I updated my post while you were replying. I am banking well on my first experimental site.
I love this plug in so far.

Jeremy Kelsall

That's what it's all about right there.

PROFIT

A $10 Domain and an hours worth of work for $142.50?

Knowing how cheap you can hire someone to work behind the scenes setting these sites up...I know what I'd be doing lol

zerofill

Actually new signups on that are disabled at the moment. I am working on a revamp of MLB to make it a lot better.

Carlsbadd

Lol is right, I am going over all my "sniper" sites that are getting traffic and converting them to this model..lol blow it up!
I want to see how a well ranked site will do with this and I think you know the answer.

I don't do enough outsourcing yet but it is becoming a reality at this point.

Thanks again , you guys rock...

Jeremy Kelsall

With the sniper type sites, if you have core conversions, you can set it to run, and rotate through a bunch of different sales/squeeze pages to find the one that converts the best and then just run that page exclusively to maximize conversions and profit

Pretty much the same with CPA...then if an offer expires it's as easy as changing the url in core conversions to display the new offer(s)

obx08

I have a quick question for those people that are doing this for local clients. How do you really need this many posts/pages for a LOCAL client? Let's say they are a dentist in Raleigh NC....you have raleigh dentist, dentist in raleigh etc etc...maybe 15 combinations. What are you doing on the other 100's or 1000's of pages. I realize you could do surrounding areas but most local places do not have but so many surrounding areas where someone is going to drive more than say 30min for a dentist. I just dont see how people are using it for local businesses due to the minimized "local" aspect.

Im not saying it wouldn't work...im just trying to understand how you would build a package for a local client.

Carlsbadd

I did that already with the core plug in and it worked great. I even put a video in the core conversion thread about it.

Anyway I am experimenting with that type of site to expand it out to local terms and getting more traffic. I will PM you about it if it works as I think it should, it's a interesting twist.

Jeremy Kelsall

If you can't use the pages directly for a client, put adsense on them, display CPA offers, an opt-in box, collect leads to sell or broker....Use the sheer number of first page rankings to give prospective clients confidence in your abilities for expensive customized work...get the traffic to the site up, and flip it...there are tons of stuff you can do with "all those pages".

Plus, just because you have a dentist in Raleigh, there are other dentists in other cities and towns that are also looking to increase their exposure and generate new customers online....

1Constant

Is there a problem using video or widgets in your post or page or will this pose a problem with duplication or premature timing-out?

Thanks!

Jeremy Kelsall

I've not had an issue with timing up, but yes, you can use video and images.

obx08

Oh i know....im def already putting them to use in other areas and having income. I just was curious about the local client aspect

I suppose you could setup 1000+ pages...then take the ones that rank top or page one and go to those cities and target businesses using core conversion so they can have instant page one rankings....so rank first then clients

subprime1

Hey OBX,

I think it also depends on the geography of where your clients are. The first LPN site I built targets 29 "towns, hamlets and villages" within a 5-mile radius of a larger town. I've optimized it for about 29 keywords. So that gives me 841 pages (29x29) within 5-miles of each other.

Not that you're asking, but maybe it will help others, here's how I'm selling it. I knew exactly who would be interested in the site before I built it, and I have a meeting with him on Tuesday evening. I used sort of a spin on Jeremy's sales approach that he mentions in the monetization video. It went something like this:

"Hey did you get my proposal? No, oh, wow... Guess I messed up. I figured since I didn't hear from you you wanted me to move ahead with it..."

"Move ahead with what? What was the proposal?"

"Oh, well I built a trial website for you that has 69 first page results for the keyword "________" in "city" and all of the towns within a five mile radius. You can check it out. Just search for "_________" and let me know what you think. You'll know it's the right site because it'll be in first position and I put one of your youtube vids on it! If you don't like it let me know and I'll take it down right away. If you do like it, let's talk next week because I can build you out about 10 of these in the next month. That's what my proposal was about."

That was with a warm client that I've worked with before. Not sure how well that would work cold. Probably wouldn't.

(BTW: That pitch was actually true because he didn't get my proposal, which I delivered in a very unreliable manner)

Tiger66466

Alrighty - back home after a night of slinging drinks. Earlier I realized that I have this plug in that helps to index your blog's pages/posts by inputting the RSS feed. So I tested that out by putting in my first test site's feed into that plug in. I just did the site:mydomain check in google and TWO LPN pages are indexed!

Yes, I'm waiting for 270 or so but hey - 2 pages is better than it was a few hours ago. Finally getting some traction.

And now as promised before - some ideas.

I think a good way to help businesses (or ourselves depending on stuff we are promoting) is to use LPN as a way to get good keyword anchor text backlinks to....Facebook Fanpages. If you're helping a client you can create a local page that links out to their facebook page but use your short codes for cities in their area. Then of course if you have Core Conversions you can also link directly to the businesses fan page - either only their fan page or have it rotate between their website and their fanpage.

And here's a good upgrade for making some more moolah from business owners - get paid to create fanpages that are basically websites within facebook. And/or custom facebook fanpages landing pages so that when someone first lands on their fanpage the visitor is more likely to click like. The default facebook fanpage is not the way to go for businesses. At least that's what you can tell your clients. And it's true.

Ok, that's all I've got for now. I need chocolate and to unwind.

Stacy

subprime1

UPDATE: This worked awesome for posts, but I'm still timing out with pages. I can only build 5-15 pages per run. Any ideas why that would work with posts but not pages? I'm baffled... Guess I'll try the VPS solution after all. Or just build post-only sites, which I don't like for some unexplainable reason.

latinguy20

Do you have any other plugins besides All In One SEO, Yet Another Related Post, and Sitemap XML activated?

The few times I've seen the low pages per run is b/c there's another plugin installed that slows it down.


-Andres

zerofill

Yeah DO NOT install YARPP until after you have most of your site generated. YARPP's queries are done rather poorly along with the way it stores options in the wordpress database. It gives me what I want on the frontend... but the backend was not done very well at all.

Tiger66466

I just did a search but couldn't find a definitive answer to my question.

When we use LPN to create posts - is it a good idea or a big ol' no-no to use say cbnet ping optimizer (or whatever it is called)? Thoughts? IF it is ok to use are there any best practices guidelines (such as - don't do more than 50 posts per draft or what have you)?

Thanks!
Stacy

subprime1

I'm procrastinating again... dreading the switch to a VPS hosting, but can't stand timing out on page builds...

So here's a few things I've tried with LP and LPN that have worked surprisingly well for me... I'm sure it's pretty basic stuff, but still...

Recycling one page 841 times:

I built a one page sales letter that was well structured read well and looked pretty sweet on the theme I was using (modified WPCharity Bintaro theme). I then created a very long {shortcode} that was "keyword phrase + city" and embeded it in three places on the sales page. I formated the embed so that it wouldn't interupt the reading of the page, sort of the way adwords does it. The {sc} was also the title of the page. It was really just a test and I figured it wouldn't rank very well using such a lazy way of optimizing. It ranked very well, and I expect to rent the site out next week and take an order for 10 more.

Merging content from two spreadsheet columns:

To create that list of 841 {sc} variables, I created a spread sheet where column 1 was the keyword phrase, column two was a city (type it in and drag it down to autofill), and column three was a formula (=A1&" "B1&). The formula merged col1 and col2. Then I copied the results to a text file, and repeated with the next city in col 2. Did that 29 times in about 10 minutes. I'm sure there's an easier way.

Creating LPN Anchored Text Links on the Fly (maybe the YARPP plugin does this automatically?):

On another site I built I named each page with {sc} as the title, and based on my known {sc} variables and permalink structure, was able to predict what the URLs would be named. So I built about 5 anchored text links into each draft. I've always had a lot of success with local ranking sites when I slightly abuse in-site anchored text links.

That site is ranking very well. In fact!!! The client landed, probably because of that site and a serendipitous news event... get this!!! three on-site television interviews, one newspaper article and crowds of people lining up outside his store all week long. His other site I built ranks very well also so I can't say for sure it was his LPN site, but still. I asked one of the news anchors how he choose to use my client's store and he said "it was number one on Google, but not a sponsored link." When I told him I built the site he gave me his card and said I've go some work for you.

Anyway, that's all for now... Hope that helps someone out. I think we have an awesome softwares here, and a very cool thread community.

subprime1

Thank you Andres. I didn't really think about that. I did have a few plugins running. I'll disable and run a test right this second.... I've disabled every plugin except AIO and LPN...

... I'm back, and... didn't work.

Actually I cant even unbuild/delete with one variable without timing out right now. It's gotta be my shared hosting.

Come to think of it, I'm probably sharing a server with Eddie and PMC... that would be pretty funny.

YellowGreenMedia

Why not use post then? there is no difference SEO wise... (i know you sad its unexplainable but i thought i will try it anyway )

Dave

Graphix Guru

Hello friends!

Time for an update.

I'm sure many of you can relate when I say LPN is not the only thing I'm doing, so I haven't had as much time to devote to it as I would like. That being said, I have begun creating content on several sites. I'm taking a "slow and easy" approach, which is kind of funny, given that I'm still doing more content in one go than I normally do in a month's time. This is an admitted shortcoming on my own website building, but it also explains why--in part--I was so thrilled to find LPN.


LPN RESULTS (RECENT TEST)

Now, for those who question whether LPN works (don't know how that's possible, given all the content in this thread showing the darn thing works and works well), I'm including a screen shot showing one of my first test posts from about a week ago.

You can see that these posts were for major cities (not smaller cities within larger cities, or smaller communities/neighborhoods). I deliberating chose to do this as part of my test. My plan is to "spin out" more specific posts for those larger cities where pages are ranking. Competing pages was 5-6 million.

The Local Page was first built as a Post for SEO, using Easy WP SEO plugin, for a score of around 85%. Despite this, I actually forgot to spin the keyword phrase in the Metadata to the "keyword + city." It was simply "main keyword" for all posts. I'm sure if I'd done it properly, a few of these pages would have been higher. Ooops. Live and learn.

Result: Out of approx. 45 posts generated by LPN, about half are ranking on page one (in positions from 2 to 10)! WOW!

And this is for a test that didn't even go 100% right--against pretty stiff competition! I'd say that's darn good!



And I'd say it bodes well for the future...




OTHER INFO:

As some of you who have been following this thread and the Floating FAQ know, I've been looking at various tracking solutions that don't cost as much as the dev team's recommended solution (SEO Powersuite).

I'm really liking Rank Tracker plugin, BTW, but as I indicated in the FAQ it's not a proactive solution (i.e. it only records data as traffic actually hits your site). Website Rank Tracker, another plugin, is a total non-starter. Tried it and it's a bust.

I should also note that Easy WP SEO plugin has some excellent metrics too. But it, like Rank Tracker plugin, is passive.

I've tried about a dozen other "solutions" since that time, including the SEOBook RankTracker plugin for Firefox. I like it, but it's slow and--at least for me--buggy and unreliable. As for other solutions, in some cases I can't test them because I'm on Mac and I won't run PC software in emulation. I will have to get a PC soon, for this reason and for others...

If people want more detail on my "ranking solution" odyssy, let me know: I can do a post.

So what did I conclude? Well, the solution I was looking for (at least until I can afford SEO PowerSuite) was right under my nose the whole time. That being, Market Samurai! It's what the screen shot was made in. You simply plugin your general site URL and the keywords you're going after, and MS tells you what (if any) pages are ranking for said keywords.

For those that might be interested, MS is based on Adobe Air, so it is 100% cross platform. It also has a free trial.

Tiger66466

OMG - I'm so excited about something I just tested. Not sure if this will benefit anyone else, but had to share.

So I have a dozen sites that are geared toward specific cities in my area. I use them so that the main site is like a directory/yellow pages/listings free-for-all site (in other words, I am trying to target ALL the businesses and services for the city). Then to get some good traction with specific industries I do subdomains. For example citylocksmith.citystate.info (And yes, these are those .infos that tend to rank quite well. But to be clear they are NOT massive cities at all, they're fairly small).

My mind is still churning out ideas and one idea was to use my all purpose domain that I just got and post articles as a way to get back links to these twelve city sites (and domains) - the city sites are on my reseller account and the new domain is on a different hosting account. I thought, "Ok, I could create a short code for just these twelve cities". But then I thought, "Well is it possible to do anchor text and input urls with short codes?"

Even though it's nearly 5am and I should be trying to get some freakin' sleep I thought, "Self, just go test this out."

I created a test post just for testing if shortcodes would work in urls.

AND THEY DO!

(In case I'm rambling incoherently and it's not clear what I mean is I would type {city} locksmith and highlight that and in the little box (or if you do it by hand the html) the url it would like to is http://{city}locksmith.{city}state.info And when you have the posts/pages created it will turn into a real url that is clickable. Of course, this only works easily if you set everything up in the same pattern. When I do a subdomain I create it once and then I use WPTwin and then use that clone across the other 11 cities and all I have to do is a find replace and change out city names and a few other tweaks to swap out city names. In other words I use the same format for every single city site - the only difference in url and titles and such is the city name per site. So perfect for using shortcodes.)

This is the awesome sauce for me because I now have a way of getting backlinks for these twelve sites and any subdomains. Even though they are smaller cities (some are actually decent sized but not huge like say Los Angeles or NYC) some stuff is pretty tough to rank for because there are some marketers who have put in work on ranking for certain niches in these areas (it's weird how competitive locksmith is!).

So now I can write a single blurb/article and get backlinks to those sites and subdomains easily. Ohhhh, and I could make it even easier by adding in shortcodes for the TYPES of businesses. So a single article could back link to several types of businesses per city - but i'm only writing ONE article.

F**kin' A this is AWESOME.

I want to squeal with glee!

rolley

Can you guys tell me your rank tracker settings to make it that quick?
I have 70 proxies rotating and still timing out.

warrior0112

Subprime:

Are you using cities (hamlets) fore one shortcone and keyword for other shortcodev to get your 29 X 29?

Thanks,

Rick

Eddie J

Can YARPP be turned on and activated AFTER it's all done? I didn't know that. So when adding posts, you can deactivate it and then turn it back on?

Eddie

Eddie J

LOL.. We'll have to work in shifts...

Eddie J

Need some advice warriors.

Hypothetical here:

If I am targeting plumber in {city} with LPN, would it also be smart and advantageous to target leaking toilet in {city}, clogged drain in {city}, etc? Do you think people search clogged drain in new york? I'm torn as to do it or not.

Input?

Eddie

Michael Rytter

Sort of "off topic", but being new to the Warrior forum, I need to ask....Can someone tell me...after the WSO ends, will this thread disappear?

There is so much creativity going on in this thread and I don't want to lose it, so if it is going to disappear, I'm going to be spending a lot of time cutting and pasting. So many of you are "out of the box" thinkers...! (Lovin' it!)

khundawg

Proxies suck. Get a vpn for sure! Here is the video I posted earlier:

khundawg

Should still be here. Kinda new as well but I have not seen anything that would lead me to believe the WSO's ever get taken down unless there's an issue the mods have to step in to resolve.

khundawg

The way I find terms is to look in the google keyword tool to see how many searches a term gets per month. If it looks good for a few decent, mid sized markets, I assume it is a popular term across the board and run with it.

subprime1

In that example I think I was using the old LPN with only one shortcode, so I created all of them in one massive list, then broke it down into 17 lists of 50 shortcodes each.

I don't think the new LPN would go 29x29 though on one draft. I think I would have to create 29 LPN drafts and one shortcode with 29 variables.

Maybe I'm wrong about that?

I kind of like the old version of LPN better because I'm not into spinning content. I seem to remember that the term "duplicate content" specifically refers to canonical issues rather than content duplication, like do you have the same content on httx://www.domain.com[/url] as httx://domain.com, and if so, Google doesn't want to show both in the results because they are from the same domain, so they "penalize" one of them, not as a punitive measure but as a way to deal with the canonical issues.

That's what I read once anyway, and it's always made sense to me because I see so much dupe content on search results.

Eddie J

Hi all,

On the few sites I set up, I used the google sitemap with no problems. I just set up my first subdomain however and the sitemap is reading kinda like a page when you look at an RSS feed versus the page with all of the links on it. I've attached a picture. I checked all of the setttings and they are the same between the 2 applications. I can't seem to figure it out. Maybe it has somethign to do with the subdomain as I already have a sitemap on the DOMAIN...even though the sub domain links are not in the domains sitemap?

Any suggestions?

Eddie

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subprime1

You're absolutely right. I should do that.

Posts just feel so fly-by-night to me. I've always used them to publish sloppy content that I threw together quickly and wanted ranked quickly. Pages have always felt more substantial, more permanent. Maybe I'll talk to my doctor about increasing my meds and see if that helps

rolley

Thanks for that, will take a look.

Wild Card

subprime1,
PM sent

sandrax

Awesome post!

How long did it take from buying the domain to ranking?

Did you do any backlinking?

Thanks

Tilt

I understand the questions, they come up as I read. You guys should see "My Brain" for this plugin, there is just so much going on, organize everything. One thing I have learned is that it is easier to Copy/Paste/Bookmark as you go then it is to find that little tidbit somewhere in the thread.

My question at this point in time is about Sub.Domains verses Domain.com/Folders. I remember an early post before I started keeping copious notes about it, then Stacy mentioned EVEN getting Sub.Domains Ranked, oh my, was that for the .info domains or domains in general? I purchased more than a few domains with the intent of going with city|state.keywords.com but could switch it over or do both a see if there is a difference, but why experiment if it is a settled discussion eh?

A little help Por Favor

Will McKay

So much going on in this thread! I'm mega excited about the possibilities with this plugin and with each new post comes a different idea, wow.

mikemik01

Hello. other than the opening page showing somewhat of success in the car insurance quote niche has anyone heard of other successes in the car insurance niche using this on here.

Thanks Mike