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UNDISCOVERED OFFLINE BUSINESS SERVICE

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Not too long ago I was working on securing additional offline clients when I made my pitch to an electrician who didn't really need my SEO services but he did need me to do something that he said nobody else had been able to do, give his website social proof.

At first I was confused and thought he just wanted your run of the mill social campaign with a facebook page and maybe some social bookmarking or something like that. I ended up rambling for about 10 minutes until he told me he didn't need that either!

Finally he told me what exactly he needed done and I was shocked that he would try to be hiring somebody to do this for him because it's VERY basic, seriously even a 10 year old can do this. I don't know what drove me to challenge what was a guaranteed sale but for some reason I just had to ask, why do you need me?

It wasn't until I heard his answer that it all really clicked, for you and me doing something like this is fast and easy because we know exactly how and where to outsource the work and it's basically internet marketing 101. But for your average small business owner who really isn't into internet marketing is absolutely clueless about it.

EVERY BUSINESS NEEDS THIS!

The goal of every single business website isn't to look great and have awesome graphics, they're made to generate more leads, phone calls, and walk in customers! Business owners know this and once they hear what type of social proof I'm able to offer they IMMEDIATELY understand how it can help their business by increasing their conversion rates and maximizing their traffic.

Honestly I'm shocked that more offline consultants aren't offering this type of service because its so simple, cheap to outsource, and not to mention effective. But I guess that works in our favor because you know what the best part about this type of service is?

NOBODY ELSE IS SELLING THIS SERVICE!

Sure you could sell SEO and facebook fan pages, but how many people do you think are out there doing that right now? Take into account all the local and national SEO and web design firms, throw in all the people who freelance on the side, then the big phone book companies who pitch their high end SEO services, and then sprinkle in all the people taking advantage of the "offline gold rush".

How many phone calls a day do you think businesses get offering the exact same service?

This service on the other hand is unique and once business owners hear about it they love it! You see unlike SEO and facebook fan pages where most clients don't really understand what they're buying and how it's increasing their business, they understand how this service works and how it can help them right off the bat.

SCALE THIS INTO ANY BUSINESS AND CITY!

You can take this method and scale it into any offline business/industry and in any city, there is literally not a single business that wouldn't greatly benefit from your service and you can do it from anywhere. I've managed to close deals and send the details to the outsourcers straight from my iphone while waiting for a flight.

In this WSO I'm going to show you exactly what this service is, how and where you should prospect potential clients, provide you with the exact email templates I use, tell you exactly where you can outsource the entire process for less than what the WSO itself costs.

Once you read it you'll fully understand the concept and process and if you're willing to put it into action, you'll be able to hit the ground running and start within minutes of reading it.



1 YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!

And for your peace of mind, I offer a 100% money back guarantee for a full year. If for whatever reason you aren't satisfied with this WSO, just drop me an email and I'll refund 100% of your money even if it's a full year from now.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS!

What type of businesses need this service?

Honestly I can't think of a single business or industry that wouldn't benefit from this service, there are some businesses that would benefit more than others (at least in my opinion) and I give you a list of those businesses in the e-book which are a total of 21 but again, every business can benefit from this.

How much can I sell this service for?

I personally sell this service for $300 because I use it to get my foot in the door and upsell more expensive services later but there is no reason why you wouldn't be able to sell this for as much as $1,000.

Do I have to cold call?

Anytime you're offering offline services there is always going to be the option of cold calling, I myself don't like to cold call because I'm just flat out no good at it. I prefer to make the initial contact via email first and then once I know a potential client is interested I get them on the phone. In the WSO I include the email template I use for contacting business owners so you can hand it over to your VA or start copying and pasting it yourself.

Do I have to pay anything upfront to outsource the work?

No, you don't need to pay anything or risk any money until the client has actually paid you and you're ready to do the work.

Does the work have to be outsourced or can I do it myself?

This is one of those things that is better off being outsourced, I guess you COULD do it yourself but you probably wouldn't want to. Besides this is something that is EXTREMELY cheap to outsource. Chances are you'll spend less on outsourcing than you will on this WSO.

How long does the process take?

Once you have a client that's interested it will take you anywhere from 15 - 45 minutes to prepare the details for your outsourced workers, every business is different and there is no one size fits all approach so some will take more time than others but it has never taken me more than 45 minutes and that was with a very detail oriented dentist.

Are there any other expenses besides outsourcing?

Absolutely not, you don't even need a domain or hosting in order to offer this service. The only thing you'll be paying for is the outsourcing which I must stress again, is very cheap.

DON'T WAIT, GET IT NOW!

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How much please?
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With a return guarantee of 365 I'll take a serious look at your offer
Just bought

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Sound interesting, does it works anywhere in the world?
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When you say 'social proof' what are you referring to - testimonials?
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Originally Posted by bobcath View Post

How much please?
The first 10 copies are going for $12

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With a return guarantee of 365 I'll take a serious look at your offer
Just bought

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Awesome! Let me know if you have any questions.

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Sound interesting, does it works anywhere in the world?
I've only used it in the US but I'm sure businesses in other countries would love it too.

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When you say 'social proof' what are you referring to - testimonials?
It's a little better than just a few lines of text
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Okay I'm in - one sale should cover the price!
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Have you used this to get your foot in the door with new clients? Is this a one-time service or is there ongoing maintenance required after the service? How long have you been providing this, and what add-on service have you provided the most after this service was provided?
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Hi there Wfstin,

Saw the notice from WSOPro about your offer, came over gave it a quick scan and hit paypal to see what the charge would be cuz you dont have the amount button... $12, okay cool...

...so come back to the WSO tab so I can actually read through the whole thing and thread and I go back over to Paypal, and BAM! $20 bucks?

Now I'm hesitating to pull the trigger...

How fast and how much are you planning on raising this to cuz now it makes me want to wait at that price jump to expect some feedback and reviews.

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So, is it $12 or $20?

Can anyone who bought share their thoughts on the quality of this?
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Originally Posted by McGruff View Post

Have you used this to get your foot in the door with new clients? Is this a one-time service or is there ongoing maintenance required after the service? How long have you been providing this, and what add-on service have you provided the most after this service was provided?
It's a one time service and there is no ongoing maintenance involved once you're done unless the client has some other businesses that they would need this for. As for follow up services I offer everything from facebook fan pages and PPC management to SEO and web design.

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Hi there Wfstin,

Saw the notice from WSOPro about your offer, came over gave it a quick scan and hit paypal to see what the charge would be cuz you dont have the amount button... $12, okay cool...

...so come back to the WSO tab so I can actually read through the whole thing and thread and I go back over to Paypal, and BAM! $20 bucks?

Now I'm hesitating to pull the trigger...

How fast and how much are you planning on raising this to cuz now it makes me want to wait at that price jump to expect some feedback and reviews.

Many Blessings,
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Yes 11 copies were sold before I managed to change the price as you can see in the e-junkie stats:



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I got here in under a minute from the time it posted and it started at $20. I doubt he sold 10 copies that fast.
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So, is it $12 or $20?

Can anyone who bought share their thoughts on the quality of this?
It started off at $12 for the first 10 copies and from there the price was bumped up to $20 as you can see in the e-junkie screenshot above.
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What's the next "jump"... $75???
Anyways, doesn't matter. Ya just lost me on this one.
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What's the next "jump"... $75???
Anyways, doesn't matter. Ya just lost me on this one.
Well there will be no further jumps beyond the current price but I'm sorry to have lost you, but is a $8 jump after the first batch of copies have been sold really that out of line from the norm? Maybe somebody could help me out here since this is my first WSO but isn't an increase in price normal after x amount of copies have been sold?
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Well, I went ahead and spent the $20. Curiosity caught the cat, I guess. Since you have offered a 100% money back guarantee, I will be asking for a refund. Here is why:

I read through the entire PDF and admit that is pretty well thought out and fairly well-written. However, the entire premise is based on fake testimonials.

I can see why "nobody else is selling this service:" my guess is that there just are not that many people comfortable with making a business out of selling fake testimonials.

Wfstin, do you not have any moral issues with creating and selling fake testimonials for your clients?

And, what about your clients? Do they really have no issue with posting fake testimonals from people they have never met (let alone done business with)?

I totally agree with the the concept providing social proof to help generate more sales, but I am not interested in selling fake social proof. I was interested in the WSO because I am always looking for new ways to help increase conversions and new ways to present social proof. Using fake testimonials - regardless of the creativity or the media format - is not something I would ever consider doing.

PM and email being sent now to request refund.
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Originally Posted by N1 View Post

Would you be so kind as to answer my previous question.

Are you selling them fake testimonials and/or phony reviews.

Yo -- did you read jmidas' review? Apparently that's what's being sold, unless someone chimes in otherwise.
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Originally Posted by wfstin View Post

Well there will be no further jumps beyond the current price but I'm sorry to have lost you, but is a $8 jump after the first batch of copies have been sold really that out of line from the norm? Maybe somebody could help me out here since this is my first WSO but isn't an increase in price normal after x amount of copies have been sold?
An $8.00 jump... In my opinion it is out of the norm when other Warriors are only going up .10 cents per sale. Your $8.00 jump in price would represent 80 sales, which you admitted you don't have. Unless you lower the price I don't believe anybody else will purchase. (Again, my opinion.)
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I understand this is your first WSO, but with only 30 post, I don't think you will have much response with 8.00 increase, for one, this WSO started to high 12.00 is to much for someone who has only 30 post, and only been member since dec. 2010.

I was going to buy out of curiosity, but when I read review about fake testimonies, I find it hard to imagine businesses paying for me to do this, Hell if I wanted to add fake testimonies to my website I would do this myself, why pay someone else for this service? hopefully your WSO is about more than the review, and hopefully your product is worth 20.00.

I wish you success.
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Would you be so kind as to answer my previous question.

Are you selling them fake testimonials and/or phony reviews.
Short answer yes, long answer no. Allow me to explain, since this WSO has crashed, burned, and scorched the earth I see no harm in revealing more.

The basis of this WSO is creating amateur video commercials for small businesses or as I like to call them, social videos. The problem is that the first batch of orders accidentally received an early draft version where I made two mistakes, using the word "testimonial" because I still didn't have the name "social videos" and a "testimonial" was the closest relation I could think of what I was offering business owners. I had to refer it as something until I came up with the final name, so I just used it with the plan of replacing it later when I could think of a proper name for it.

The next error was that on the last page I told readers I'd rather not give them a script because then everyone is going to start copying/pasting it word for word. Instead of giving them a script I wrote this:



At first I thought it was clear that the video should read like a commercial based on the radio, tv, and PPC ads the business is already running

After reading it a few more times I thought the distinction wasn't clear enough so I revised it and moved away from using the word "testimonial" and included a script that should be used (for amateur commercials) so people would draw a clear distinction between a fake testimonial and an amateur commercial which is what I offer.

Here is how the sample script reads:



From that sample script I think it's clear that we aren't paying people to say "I paid XYZ to come build my pool and they did an amazing job", instead it's more like a TV commercial that shows a happy family enjoying their pool except in this case we throw in the amateur angle to gain more rapport with people so they don't feel like they are being marketed to by a professional producer or studio actors.

So long story short, no. I don't think people should be offering to do fake testimonials for businesses because I don't believe it's appropriate, I doubt business owners would want to get involved in that type of sleaze, and I don't think the laws would have a favorable opinion on it.

In the final version that was supposed to be sent out I do use the term "testimonial" (since its what the outsourced workers call it and know it as) a few times to refer to social videos and amateur commercials but I made sure to draw a clear distinction between a fake testimonial and what should be an amateur commercial.

If anybody did get the impression that I was suggesting creating fake testimonials, I'm sorry I take full responsibility for that boneheaded mistake.

If anybody is still interested, the price is back down $12 and staying there, anyone who paid $20 has had the difference refunded. This is my first WSO and I'm learning my lessons the hard way but thanks to those who were able to tolerate it.
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Thanks for your honesty and your detailed reply, this is what will make you successful here on the forum, and after reading this review, makes very good sense, I am going to buy this WSO, and combine with a few ideas to offer to offline business.

Thanks again,
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Originally Posted by wfstin View Post

If anybody is still interested, the price is back down $12 and staying there, anyone who paid $20 has had the difference refunded. This is my first WSO and I'm learning my lessons the hard way but thanks to those who were able to tolerate it.
Nicely done... Bravo!
I like your professionalism, your explanation and this business concept -- and am back in.
Can't wait to see it!
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I'm now revisiting this myself.
Hang in there, wfstin!
Do you provide samples of these videos -- or samples contracts? (Or are contracts or written agreements even needed?)
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Very well said and thanks for answering our questions and believing in your product enough to give a full explanation.
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Originally Posted by jmidas View Post

Well, I went ahead and spent the $20. Curiosity caught the cat, I guess. Since you have offered a 100% money back guarantee, I will be asking for a refund. Here is why:

I read through the entire PDF and admit that is pretty well thought out and fairly well-written. However, the entire premise is based on fake testimonials.

I can see why "nobody else is selling this service:" my guess is that there just are not that many people comfortable with making a business out of selling fake testimonials.

Wfstin, do you not have any moral issues with creating and selling fake testimonials for your clients?

And, what about your clients? Do they really have no issue with posting fake testimonals from people they have never met (let alone done business with)?

I totally agree with the the concept providing social proof to help generate more sales, but I am not interested in selling fake social proof. I was interested in the WSO because I am always looking for new ways to help increase conversions and new ways to present social proof. Using fake testimonials - regardless of the creativity or the media format - is not something I would ever consider doing.

PM and email being sent now to request refund.


JMidas - I would like some more feedback from you on your thoughts now that Wfstin has done a great job in clarifying the intent of his WSO as far as "amateur commercial videos" versus the initial understanding of a having a "fake testimonial" created, etc.

...or any other Warrior's feedback that has now picked this up from the Pricing "Revolt"...

Thanks,
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So you can just say this WSO is about making a video to promote offline business by using real people to talk positive about the business. It sounds like a commercial video, right? But I don't understand why nobody is offering this service to offline business ?

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Originally Posted by mydream247 View Post

Thanks for your honesty and your detailed reply, this is what will make you successful here on the forum, and after reading this review, makes very good sense, I am going to buy this WSO, and combine with a few ideas to offer to offline business.

Thanks again,
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Nicely done... Bravo!
I like your professionalism, your explanation and this business concept -- and am back in.
Can't wait to see it!

Thanks for taking the time to check it out guys, let me know if you have any questions

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I'm now revisiting this myself.
Hang in there, wfstin!
Do you provide samples of these videos -- or samples contracts? (Or are contracts or written agreements even needed?)
I myself don't provide any samples of the videos but the outsourced workers can show you samples of their work if you just ask them, as for contracts I don't use them for this particular service because I sell it at a lower rate to get my foot in the door so I don't feel that a contract or written agreement would be necessary. Now if you're selling it for a higher price then maybe it would be a good idea to get everything in writing but I would think that any generic service agreement contract that includes what you will be delivering, what the client will be paying, and by when it would all be completed would be sufficient. If you'd like I can PM you the contract template I use for my other services.

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Very well said and thanks for answering our questions and believing in your product enough to give a full explanation.
Thank you for your kind words

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So you can just say this WSO is about making a video to promote offline business by using real people to talk positive about the business. It sounds like a commercial video, right? But I don't understand why nobody is offering this service to offline business ?

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Yes thats the basics of it, there are plenty of studio and professional companies offering to shoot commercials made for TV but I have never come across a local business site that has amateur or "social videos" as commercials. But I guess that works to our advantage
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JMidas - I would like some more feedback from you on your thoughts now that Wfstin has done a great job in clarifying the intent of his WSO as far as "amateur commercial videos" versus the initial understanding of a having a "fake testimonial" created, etc.

...or any other Warrior's feedback that has now picked this up from the Pricing "Revolt"...

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Jerold,

First, a thought about the price. Unlike most here, I really have no problem was a WSO going from 12 to 20 bucks after 10 sales. The only mistake he made was not telling us that was what the deal was. The price seemed to be hidden. No big deal, I am guessing that is something you learn how to do as you do more WSO's.

My real issue: Wfstin was kind enough to refund my purchase, and I appreciate that. I also appreciate his attempt to clarify the intentions, although, to be honest, I find it a rather desperate attempt at salvaging a mess. He also sent me the "revised" version that I guess I was "supposed" to get instead of the old version. In an email from him, he offered the newer version and I said I would review it and provide honest feedback if it were different AND he could provide a link or two to his clients videos that he produced (so I could verify for myself that they were commercials and not fake testimonials). He sent the new version, but no links or samples. I would like to see just one video he actually sold to one real business.

Here is my honest feedback on version 2:

First, just a thought:I was supposedly buyer #11 or 12, since I got hit with the higher price. Where are the first 10-11 buyers and why didn't any of them have anything to say about the fact he was promoting the idea of selling fake testimonials? I am not sure why it took me - buyer #11 or 12 - to notice this issue.

Version 2: the newer version is simply the exact same as the first version with a couple paragraphs added to the end. The entire document discusses the concept of selling "testimonials" as "social proof" - in itself a great idea, until you realize he is talking about outsourcing the video creation to someone who is not a customer - which is the only way it can be done so quickly ("15-45 minutes"). Sure, it is quick and easy to provide a testimonial if you are not concerned if the testimony (or "review") came from an actual customer.

Now, with the addition of a couple paragraphs at the end of the document, we are supposed to believe that we are only to sell the concept of an "amatuer-created commercial." Commercials are not "social proof," they are advertisments. Testimonials are social proof. Two different things. Personally, I think this late change of wording and "discovery" of a new phrase was just a last-ditch effort to save the WSO. But, that is just my opinion and others can decide for themselves.

Here is a cut and paste from the newest, current version, which is supposed to be about selling commercials. Regarding the concept:
"Why not a professionally created video testimonial that takes place in a studio setting and is professionally done? Well for the simple reason
because it's way too professional and when they are done in a studio, they look too much like an ad." Hmm, "too much like an ad," huh?


And, this is in reference to who you should hire for the outsourced work: "just make sure you checkout any sample videos they may have uploaded so you can get a sense of their style so that it suites the business you're working for, that you checkout their feedback ratings to make sure they deliver in a timely manner, and that their accent matches up with your country. A British person reviewing a pool builder in Jacksonville, Florida would look a little bit odd."


If it is intended to be a "commercial" then the accent should not matter. Fact is, the intent of this wso is to sell fake testimonials, which is why you would want to be sure the "reviewer" sounds like he/she were local to the business.


If this is, in fact, a WSO to sell the idea of selling videos to add to a business's website, then the entire document needs a re-write. As it is now, I cannot imagine anyone who reads this NOT thinking it is about selling fake testimonials.


Sorry to be so harsh. Wfstin seems like a nice enough person, but the bottom line is that this wso is promoting the concept of selling fake testimonials -- regardless of a few words added to the last page telling you not to sell fake testimonials (kinda like selling someone a gun and saying in small print to be sure not to shoot actual bullets).


Anyway, I do appreciate the prompt refund, but I think this WSO was a bit of bad idea.
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Interesting thread. I would note that there are tons and tons of fake review sites being used to sell affiliate products, and somehow we seem to accept that as a legitimate marketing strategy. In fact, I recall one very successful WSO that sold PLR rights to "amateur" video reviews for Amazon affiliates. No one made a fuss over that even thought the reviews were clearly "fake" and designed to "presell" the product.

But when a similar strategy is proposed for offline businesses, for some reason it offends us. Maybe because the deceit is so apparent, whereas the affiliate marketers can pretend that their fake reviews are "informational".

I personally would have an ethical problem with anything designed to appear like a review or testimonial from a paid worker who has not actually used the product or business. But I would note the hypocrisy from those who would use this method in online marketing and condemn it in the offline world.

As this thread shows, the line between an "ad" and a testimonial/review is a thin one, but I think we know when we've crossed it, whether we want to admit it or not.
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I think the paragraph below from this WSO pitch Say's it all about the intention of the service. I hate to say it (I tend to be naive) I could be wrong, but it clearly states..... "not a single business that wouldn't greatly benefit from your service".

I don't think any local business would use fake testimonials.

I think maybe under the pressure to get the WSO up, he made some mistakes.
Just my opinion.

Here is that paragraph....

You can take this method and scale it into any offline business/industry and in any city, there is literally not a single business that wouldn't greatly benefit from your service and you can do it from anywhere. I've managed to close deals and send the details to the outsourcers straight from my iphone while waiting for a flight.
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Do you think that paid actors actually use the products that they endorse 100% of the time... 50%, or at all? (fine print "compensated endorsement")

Why are yellow page ads, magazine ads and press releases best and most powerful when they are "disguised" and written to look like typical articles? (footnoted as "paid advertisement")

Cause that's just how it is and they work so well.

No difference here.
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To be honest, and I am not trying to be negative or anything. But would that not be unethical ?

Or even illegal?

I am sure FTC would have to say something about fake reviews and testimonials?
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Come on guys, give it a break, this is no different than the commercials you see on TV, Actors are paid to promote.

This is nothing different, unless I read wrong, there is no mention of stating you shopped at abc, or bought abc product.

The video only states how long business has been around, promotions ect...This is Normal Commercial Advertising.

Do you think the businesses would buy from us, if they can afford Network commercials on major TV channels? Do you have any idea how much it cost to run just 30 commercial on major network?

This is video for the small business, the little guy who does not have the big pockets, it's a way to help grow there business, and a way for us to offer other services to them as upsell.

Yes there are some flaws in this WSO but I did not see anything unethical, or illegal being offered.

Just like all these WSO's I have said it time and time again, I have yet to find one that is perfect, all and I mean all I have bought leave something out, something to figure on my own.

You must take this as a concept, and incorporate into your offline business model, I don't see this as a business in itself, but great addition.

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Originally Posted by mydream247 View Post

Come on guys, give it a break, this is no different than the commercials you see on TV, Actors are paid to promote.

This is nothing different, unless I read wrong, there is no mention of stating you shopped at abc, or bought abc product.

The video only states how long business has been around, promotions ect...This is Normal Commercial Advertising.

Do you think the businesses would buy from us, if they can afford Network commercials on major TV channels? Do you have any idea how much it cost to run just 30 commercial on major network?

This is video for the small business, the little guy who does not have the big pockets, it's a way to help grow there business, and a way for us to offer other services to them as upsell.

Yes there are some flaws in this WSO but I did not see anything unethical, or illegal being offered.

Just like all these WSO's I have said it time and time again, I have yet to find one that is perfect, all and I mean all I have bought leave something out, something to figure on my own.

You must take this as a concept, and incorporate into your offline business model, I don't see this as a business in itself, but great addition.

Thanks,
Agreed...and I would propose to those who feel uneasy about this method the following twist:

Contact customers of your offline clients and ask them if they would be willing to be briefly interviewed about their experience as a customer. Have them agree ahead of time to be quoted for an upcoming video testimonial that either they can agree to be filmed and used...OR that just their quote will be utilized with the understanding that someone else will be recorded quoting the actual customer's (their) experience.

I do understand that this may not always be practical, and will involve more legwork but....Just a possible twist you might want to noodle with that may help if you don't feel right about the actual method. In fact, I believe most wso's should be used with some sort of unique twist as a rule of thumb.

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It looks to me like the wso seller is trying to amend for this. Seems fair and it seems what he's saying is you would be producing a sort of spokesperson video, not a testimonial.
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