chuckharris

LOL, you are awesome man.

Trinbagolad

Hey guys,
How is this different from the original WSO?
Is it easier, badder & better than the 1st ?
What about those of us that bought it the 1st time around,do we need to purchase this one also ?Thanks.

creditbuilder

Hey Trin, nice to see you... yes you have to purchase this offer if you want to use it. As for your other questions please read posts #2, #8 and #56. Thanks.

Folks what Trin asked is a 100% legitimate question so this comment is in no way derogatory. I am in no way upset that he asked that, in fact I am grateful because of this:

I have given to you guys free access to the core of the course. As a member you get a ton of other support stuff that takes those vids and expands on them. All I can do is present to you the offer and let you judge if it is in fact better or badder (lol what am I supposed to say? no it sucks?). I understand not every system is for everyone. I totally get that and I completely respect that. But I really want you looking at the offer in terms of the way it is, as it is so that based on your past Internet Marketing experiences you can judge and determine if in fact this is better then either my other system or any others you have seen. I don't know about other offers, but I am not about to make public a system I am using to make money unless there was something in it for me. I am not interested in selling volume copies of this offer. In fact, based on the number of optins that I am getting, if just those people buy this system and do it, I might just shut it down sooner then I anticipated and post it on CL if at this point I even decide to do that. The first version of my previous offer that Des Lau launched on my behalf was shut down in 48 hours.

I said it before and I'll say it again... I am not selling hype. You want it, great! You don't want it, that is TOTALLY COOL and you have my personal gratitude that at the very least you took the time to check out this offer. I love you guys, I want you to make money, I want to make money and I want the business owner to get money so they can finally do the things they need to with that cash.

wiseleo

I watched all of the videos. You created a nice system. Thank you for the detailed strategy on reaching out to bank managers. I will apply them to my other business.

I may have a way for you and CreditWise to get some irrefutable testimonials that will stand up to an FTC audit from actual previously funded clients without violating their privacy, by the way. PM me if you are interested in that.

creditbuilder

Thank you, but we have all the testimonials we need from our own clients that have been funded in the many past years that we approve on a daily basis.

Curtisg

Hi Sarkis,
The sign up is still creating an error message. Can some one please contact me via pm?

Amstardam

if you want to deal with a business that is hiding the fact that they are "broke" then how can we find out about that business? Credit check would be done on that business through a credit agency?

chuckharris

I have sent you a PM.

creditbuilder

I answer that in my core training, but if unclear, they have to show proof of business income.. no show, no money.

livlady10

I think I've posted something like two positive reviews on WSO's since joining the forum. I usually just sit by the sidelines and read, read, read every post about the offer.

But....

This one has me so super excited that I had to chime in.

Like others have stated....I think this product and the way of doing the process can be a Goldmine for everyone. The way Sarkis has taken knowledge and information from the financial industry, rolled it all together with internet marketing to benefit everyone is truly awesome. This product can and I believe, will create financial freedom for anyone who is serious and takes action with it. The process is simple and easy. Just do it. I will be!!!

I must admit, I can be one of those people who start and don't finish at times but I am totally stoked about this one. I'm already working on gathering contacts so I can put this baby in action.

I skyped Sarkis earlier today and right after typing "Hello Sarkis", he was there, chiming in......LoL. I started out from, expecting to check back "later" to see if Sarkis had answered, to TWO very detailed phone conversations. Sarkis over delivers. Period.

I don't see every offer on WF but what other WSO will provide all the details before you buy AND let you take a test run of the product. Ha Ha!!!

Sarkis truly cares about the success that you have with his product. In a nutshell, this wso along with the OP are off the chain, which is another way of saying...just simply "great." LoL

Sarkis, I think you will have another 20-30 page thread on your hands. Get plenty of rest now.

dieselpro

Sarkis,

How is this different than the EasyBTKE service, mentioned in your teleseminar? I know that is your student's Chris' setup, but how else is it different?

I bought the original BTKE course last Saturday, before it closed down and there was a message on the dashboard homepage, saying STOP: You are about to launch the new system. It did mention contacting you by Skype to discuss it.

Is this some sort of prolonged OTO sort of deal, for the members of the original BTKE program. It seems I could have waited and just bought this course versus both. I'm interested in your viewpoint relating to the people, who bought the old course right before it was shut down a few days ago. Thanks!

creditbuilder

Okay well I PM'd you sir. What Chris created is for the purposes of creating the loan and grant package. And if you read my previous thread you were told that if you wait you would have to pay $17 for this offer (at time of launch since it will start at that on dimesale) and then IF you wanted that offer, you would pay an additional $47 which is what the price of BTKE is now set at. By purchasing that at $32 you were told you would get that and IF you contacted me via skype BEFORE I shut down the thread you would get this offer for free. (See posts #2 and #1063 http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...r-closing.html). Also as you stated above I state in the member area in 2 places to contact me.

So by purchasing that offer and because you did not contact me before I shut down that thread instead of paying $17 + $47 you are still saving yourself $15. So from the "viewpoint" of those that bought the offer before it shut down, those that did what I asked them to do get both offers for $32.

Why skype? because I am building me a team of those who will use my offer and take action with it. But because of the timing in which you did purchase the original offer I also understand you may not have had the time to contact me. So don't have to stress about it. Contact me now and I will give you both offers. The reason you have to contact me is because my member site is not yet ready or I would have launched this thing already, so I have to hand it to you in pieces because if I gave you everything you'd be confused, lol.

tajiri

Well, Sarkis, I will respect your wishes, but will not hesitate to say that I am making A LOT of money with your system. Anyway, all I can say is that I am making thousands a week and enough said.

This system is working seamlessly and like clockwork, and as it’s all automated. By using my twist, getting traffic with your system is so simple and straightforward and I am so glad I bought your course when I did.

Now, Sarkis, I have a question for you. I noticed that the lender is paying again with PAYPAL but my concern is that with the amount coming in now on a daily basis I am really afraid PAYPAL will freeze my account and the money I earn. Last Thursday I started requesting payment by cheque but the problem with this is cheques get lost or even stolen. And when you are moving monies between countries it gets even more complicated.

Have you had issues getting paid with PAYPAL? If at all possible I want to go back to using PAYPAL as that is my preferred payment method, but I have also heard too many horror stories of Internet Marketers who have had their accounts frozen.

I tried to skype you but when I am on you are not. Please let me know.

Cali16

Tajiri, I am really hoping (as I suspect others are as well) that you will share with Sarkis your special twist on this that is working so well for you, and allow him to share it with those of us who have purchased his course. If you want to sell it separately, sign me up!

As for PayPal, I certainly agree that is a valid issue. I know they will not hesitate to freeze an account for 180 days if there is a sudden, substantial increase in the amount of funds coming in. They did it to me once a few years ago.

bigcat

Waiting for Tuesday is like waiting for Christmas -- it can't get here soon enough. I've watched all the posted videos. I bought some relevant domain names. I am collecting links, information, and brainstorming ideas in a folder. I have scheduled three days off from my day job to kick start my campaigns.

Can you tell I'm excited?

Lee

dieselpro

I appreciate the answer Sarkis, but the whole "I told you" and "If you read" tone doesnt play with me. You're running 2 WSOs right behind each other, with tons of posts, especially in the 1st WSO. I believe it was like a 20+ page thread. You may get some redundant questions, so please press the pause button on the condescension. I didn't disrespect you, so the passive-aggressive tone doesn't play well with me. I grew up in a very serious environment and I dont disrespect people, nor do I tolerate it. I would have entertained your PM, if not for the huge time gap in response and the parental tone taken within it. I know you have small children, but we are both adults and talk to me as such. If you had issues with my questions, you could have PM'd me to clear things up and I would have followed the request asked, if they were responded to respectfully. You can't run a thread were you get touchy at people's questions, unless they are being blatantly rude, libelous or disrespectful. You told some guy "You were 100% certain he wouldn't make money with your program" because he asked for earnings proof. That is a common question with WSOs, as people are selling broken, outdated or stolen methods in this forum all the time. Your original thread had earnings and testimonials, and you put them in the salespage for a reason. TO CONVINCE PEOPLE. Maybe, he didn't see the original thread and wanted to do some due diligence first. Money doesnt grow on trees, especially nowadays. I.M is full of people who sell courses full-time and internet market no-time, so people have grown skeptical. This is part of the job, buddy.

Nevertheless, Sarkis you have a great program, but I dont tolerate people talking down to me. EVER!

chuckharris

I happen to know Sarkis very well, this I can say with 100%, certainty, the manner in which you received his post was not the manner he intended. I'm sorry but he does not speak to his children in such a manner either.

That particular post, the manner it was stated and how you heard it is one of the reasons email sucks. So often it is easy to read emotion that was not intended.

As to the quote above, completely taken out of context. That is not why, at all why Sarkis told the person he wouldn't make money, not even close.

He told him he wouldn't make money because he was so hellbent on the notion that you HAD to have income proofs. Nothing else was good enough for him. Not the fact that 98% of the system is given in this thread BEFORE purchase, not what others have to say, literally nothing. Even being told time and time again that there would be no income claims before launch, he continued to come back and badger.

This system is NOT your standard IM stuff, it breaks A LOT of the rules for the standard products in this niche. If you can't look outside the box a little with it, it's not going to work for you. That was the point.

If you have been in IM for any amount of time you should know that income "proofs" is the lowest, absolute lowest form of "proof". The first thing that ANY scammer does is create income proof. And it's as easy to do with video now as with screen shot. And then often when income "proof" is added to a thread, the focus changes to that rather than the product. We do not want that to happen here.

Remember this quote "the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results"? If you, me and everybody else who wants to make positive changes in their life don't actually make the changes, it never happens. Point is, people need to start looking past the crazy and ridiculousness income claims and start actually looking at what they are buying, let their gut tell them.

Anyway, sorry about the rant, just saying, that's all.

creditbuilder

@dieselpro

I appreciate the answer Sarkis, but the whole "I told you" and "If you read" tone doesnt play with me. You're running 2 WSOs right behind each other, with tons of posts, especially in the 1st WSO. I believe it was like a 20+ page thread. You may get some redundant questions, so please press the pause button on the condescension.

The information was on the sales page. And in what tone should I say that "If you read it" and "I told you"..right in the 1st page, but in case people missed it, I also repeated myself on the 22nd page because people will usually read the 1st and last page and ignore the middle. I was not being disrespectful, I was just wondering if you did in fact read it.

I would have entertained your PM, if not for the huge time gap in response..

Ask anyone sir, my response time is faster than Nascar and forgive me if I was sleeping at the time and did not get to you right away. But I did reply the minute I read your original post 2x

If you had issues with my questions, you could have PM'd me to clear things up

I don't have issues with you... asking you if you read the sales page is not having an issue + I did PM you sir.

You told some guy "You were 100% certain he wouldn't make money with your program" because he asked for earnings proof. That is a common question with WSOs, as people are selling broken, outdated or stolen methods in this forum all the time. Your original thread had earnings and testimonials, and you put them in the salespage for a reason. TO CONVINCE PEOPLE. Maybe, he didn't see the original thread and wanted to do some due diligence first. Money doesnt grow on trees, especially nowadays. I.M is full of people who sell courses full-time and internet market no-time, so people have grown skeptical. This is part of the job, buddy.

That may be a common place in the forum but I don't want that on my thread. I am not trying to convince anybody of anything. Specially not those that need screenshot or video "proof". IMO those are dreamers and if you read (again no disrespect meant) post #23 I tried cordially to tell him I will not provide any income statements. If I go to some store and ask for something and they refuse to provide it to me, I simply go to another store and buy it there. I just encouraged him to do just that because I don't want him as a part of my team. I don't care how many copies I sell... I care about those like yourself that buy it because these people are investing something more than the cost of the offer... their time and they are choosing to spend it doing my offer and it's the least I can do for you and them.

Nevertheless, Sarkis you have a great program, but I dont tolerate people talking down to me. EVER!

Forgive me if me asking you if you read the sales page or the tone in which I said it was "talking down" to you as that certainly was not my intention and I sincerely apologize to you if it came across that way.

creditbuilder

Hey Lee, nice to meet you... skype me and lets brainstorm together... been doing this now for a while so may end up saving you some time and money or you may teach me something new!

bigcat

Cool - I'll contact you this evening -- I have to go out with the wife shortly.

Lee

creditbuilder

Hey there! Welcome back! Thanks so much for the review. Regarding PAYPAL Nice problem to have huh? lol. Okay not so nice. I dont know what to tell you. I have a business account and I usually do daily transactions of that amount and never had an issue, but being from out of country getting money might be an issue since I don't know all the laws of Africa. I would talk to paypal first see what they say. I am going to ask the lender if in your case he can pay you by each transaction versus the daily lump sum for a couple of weeks where you can gradually add money into your account. But based on the amounts I am seeing you get is a legitimate reason to be cautious. Keep in mind he pays also via BILL.COM but I don't know if you can sign up with them if you are outside the US. I will try to find out more and keep you posted. I saw you skyped me but I am set as away because I am adding the support videos to this course so I did not hear the bing.

I am also getting a ton of messages from warriors asking me about your system or twist you are using, which as you know, because I have access to your account I cannot disclose anything. One thing I can say from our last conversation is you really are not risking saturation. But listen I will be back on skype full time after launch and then lets sit and talk and see if we can figure something out -- people really want to know what you are doing. Thanks.

mbhatnagar

Hi Sarkis,

I had bought the old WSO and had also gotten in touch with you on Skype before it got closed. However, I didn't specifically ask for the new WSO to be free (I had assumed it would be, going by the thread). Does this mean I'm eligible for the upgrade?

Looking forward to getting started with the new system.

creditbuilder

No! Don't buy it! You get a copy. skype me!!!!

deltamatrix

Are there any keyword terms that are restricted by the lender? I need to setup a few sites right away and need to be sure I can use the keywords I choose (I haven't selected them yet).

creditbuilder

Hey Deltamatrix if you are using the targeted system, you don't need keywords or anything like that. If however you want to build a list using the viral system then yes there are and if you skype me at KANGENWATERBOY I can go over them. If you can't just call me at 310-961-4447. Otherwise most of that info is in the course.

Thanks

deltamatrix

Could you explain a bit about not needing keywords for the targeted traffic. I would have guessed great keywords would be more important for the targeted leads you are after.

What types of marketing have been most effective for getting targeted leads and signed loan forms?

AntonyB

Hi Sarkis,

Does everyone who purchased the original WSO get this new one free. I purchased the original WSO in September and never did anything with it, recently (like this last 2 weeks) i went through all the steps and set everything up and i am just starting to drive some traffic to my site. I did see something about the new course but i didn't pay much attention to it as i was setting up my site so i didn't contact you.

chuckharris

Sarkis is out for a bit this morning, he'll be happy to answer all questions once he returns.

jprano

They generally have to show cash flow by submitting last 3 months bank statements.

creditbuilder

Makes sense, but I have never needed them. I would love to see your results though so let me know

creditbuilder

Hey Anthony there are ~20 people I gave access to this course due to 1. The time in which they skyped me which would have been between the dates I posted asking them to and the time I shut down that offer. If you were not one of them, sorry you will have to pay for it, thanks.

AntonyB

No problem Sarkis,
I have a support ticket in about signing up with Creditwise. I have already signed up but after watching the new video i was wondering if i buy the new course will i need to sign up again because you mentioned that you need to sing up with the Paypal trans# for the new WSO.
Thanks.

svenwoods

How to get sneak peak at this system?

chuckharris

Hey man, glad to have you here! Just take a look at the full sales letter on page one of this thread and you will see a large number of videos there.

bigcat

Sarkis -- Thanks very much for the Skype session. It was very helpful in getting my thinking on the right track.

Now I understand the comments about not thinking so much like an Internet marketer since conversions are not the problem. It's just getting the right information to the right businesses.

Now I'm even more pumped!

Lee

creditbuilder

No, because I go in there and I populate your btkex member id. BUT DO NOT SEND LEADS UNTIL THEN! And if there are any leads coming I get a copy of every one of them so I can see it and will block it from being redistributed. Besides the leads that get redistributed happen after I manually click on the button and I double, tripple check and I email the person first 3 - 5x before I do something like that so there is no risk.

I have a ban list currently with 1 person on it thus far. If any leads come in from a person on the ban list (even if they sign up under a different account I know who they are) I distribute those biz owners to my active members and if one of those owners gets funded the one with that lead gets paid. The point is I have to manually add someone to the ban list and they don't get put there without prior notification or unless by my 5th attempt they do not contact me back.

Cali16

Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible (would be nice, though!). But, you can go to your User CP, click on "edit options", then "edit ignore list" and add him to your list (be sure to click "save"), and then you won't have to read any of his posts. It's a nice feature.

creditbuilder

Who said anything about a sneak peak? I treat my visitors better than that! You have FULL access to the core of the course which is on the sales page. please check it out and thank you so much for checking out my offer! Please take the time to read all the posts as there are some very important information for you there. Welcome and looking forward to having you part of the team.

JKinakin

I don't get involved very often at all with an annoying poster, but dude, take your
Sept 2012 signup (unless you're trolling from a different signup and are embarrassed
to use your real account) and just the leave us alone. You are truly interfering with
the thread from customers getting real, legitimate question asked and answered.

Why not buy it and if you don't like it, then get a refund from Sarkis, if he will let you buy.

You are not doing any of us a favor, rookie. Moderators, can you give this poster a
spanking and send him to the corner.

Man, I remember when I had my first beer.

creditbuilder

Lol I remember when I drank the last bottle of beer.. an hour ago.. oh cr@p, I better get more!

jprano

Just curious, can you tell me at this time if there is a team or staff in place to handle and process the hundreds if not thousands of loan requests that will constantly be coming in?

creditbuilder

That is a wonderful question. Yes, currently we have a team of about 50 people each can handle at least 250 applicants because the loan process itself is pretty much automated. We will hire more people if and as needed.

Here is the process for the biz owner

STEP 1: Fill out the app
STEP 2: If even remote possibility of a yes they get a call from a team member
STEP 3: If the team member fails to reach them they are emailed
STEP 4: They are requested to provide supporting documents
STEP 5: We validate the documents
STEP 6: If the affiliate had a genuine BTKEX MEMBER ID as described in the video course
STEP 7: Funding is issued
STEP 8: We get paid 1 week after the issuance and acceptance of the loan from the biz owner via PAYPAL, BILL.COM or Check

Great question, thanks for asking!

McGruff

I apologize if this has already been answered, but how do we track the process to insure that our referrals received their funds, and that we are paid accordingly? Is there a system in place that allows us to know where they are in the 8 step process?

Thanks, and I look forward to this!

Mike G

creditbuilder

No, that's a very good and legitimate question... when you have time, please go watch my videos... in there I show you how you can monitor that. Not only do you see the applicant but you also get emails like this one who we are about to fund from one of my members:

Business Name xxxxxxxxx liquors
First Name xxxxxxx
Last Name xxxxxxx
Business Address 369 xxxxxxxxx ave
City xxxxxxxxxxx
State nj
Zip Code xxxxx
Email xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.net
Phone 1 xxx xxx xxxx
Phone 2 xxx xxx xxxx
Fax no
Company Type / Industry retail
Years in Business 8
Website no
Annual Gross Revenue 1.5 million
Mo. Credit Card Sales 40.000
Amount of Financing Requested 75.000
Security Code xxxx
BTKEX Member ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
IP Address xxx.185.xx.117
Referring Referral Partner Dror Munk

So you and I both know EXACTLY who applied, for what and for how much. Dror is about to be the latest addition to my members who is going to walk away with a significant earnings either this week or next week because this is just one of several companies he sent over that is very likely going to get the loan, because the amount he requested was approved but he qualified for up to 250k. We just don't know if he'll bite and take the full 250k or the 175. Time will tell.

GrahamHobbs

Hi Sarkis.
This looks like a killer system, except I am rarely free during "bank hours". I can do evenings and w/e's but you mentioned contacting banks so I wonder if that would that put a damper on the system for me?

Lorraine789

Hi i sent in a support ticket because the express page keeps putting up the wrong name and i listen to the call and there's a trans id now is that going to credit me or the two other names that came up on the page i didn't want to try anything just in case it's my name and email you cant see and think it whoever name is on there they may not be real and get credit or however ppl commit fraud.

bigcat

I can answer this one. You don't want to contact bank managers at the bank. You want to find their home email address or social networking profile so you can contact them at home.

PrivateCitizen

Hey Sarkis, you've probably heard this before but you remind me of Tony Shalhoub from one of my favorite TV shows "Monk". Of course that's not the only reason I want to get on board with this system, but it certainly doesn't hurt! Looking forward to this launch!

creditbuilder

WHO THE HECK ARE YOU? HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING TO MY WIFE? SHE KEEPS TELLING ME THAT!! lolololol But thank God I only look like him, but am his complete opposite.

Welcome, looking forward to having you part of my team

CikedMarketing

I was in on the original WSO...while most WSO's I come across are junk (most people trying to make a quick buck), rehashed garbage, sellers who bail out on their buyers and go MIA, I knew I had to give Sarkis's WSO a look. There is not much I find new or something I had not seen/done before in the majority of WSO's, but Sarkis' WSO caught my eye as an approach I had not seen before from a WSO. So after reading through the countless comments and high praises for Sarkis, I bought in.

Honestly, I was a bit skeptical before I purchased...I mean a WSO seller who was truly that forthcoming with helping his buyers out? It sounded too good to be true, however, Sarkis was immediately available on Skype (even before purchasing). I think our first call was probably close to an hour and he was more than happy to answer all my questions and provide deep insight into the WSO and how to make it work.

I soon went to work, putting my own spin on the landing page/site. I looked to Sarkis for some feedback on my approach as it was different than what was offered in regards to the landing page. He was more than willing to look at what I was doing and provided some helpful feedback to make it better. I knew he truly wanted me to succeed.

With some tweaks, I was off and running and have not looked back. With some success already making some $$$$ on his original WSO, I can't wait to really get after Sarkis' new approach and techniques. It will truly supercharge an already powerful money maker.