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Hi Luther,

Will this require proxies?
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Originally Posted by Luther Landro View Post

Yes I include a variety of selections that can be corporate, government or whomever. There plenty of B2B concepts included and nearly endless combinations of data to mine.

Plus I am very willing to add more niches, concepts, filetypes and document types to help the user base. Just send over some suggestions once you've gone through the software.

Like a search engine, it won't hand you ideas, but the ideas will come from what it hands you: the opportunity to analyze raw market data to locate a position or analyzing market data as a service for clients big & small. The only real difference would be in the size of your fees.

I would love hear the franchise concept.
Well I have played with the thought of starting my own franchise or store chain at some point, because it gives you ability to branch out into other hard to start up offline stuff easily. And I recently read an article about a guy who owns a chain of juice bars(odd kind of bars without alcohol I know) who turned down roughly 40 million dollars, his chain isn't even that big. I bet he has one hell of a business plan and concept going .

IDEA ALERT: Find people who are interested to buy up new businesses or branch into other markets by buying proved models. Find the concept and other good stuff for the kind of business there have been an interest in and sell it to the guy who would love to enter that market.

Can you say BIG paychecks?
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Is there a real need for this from business owners???? How many total deals have you sold?
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alright have been playing a bit with this, but I'm mostly finding stuff from gov sites and stuff like that so far. I am trying to switch between different stuff to see what can get me some useful results, I ended up finding a novel or what the hell it was when I searched for suppliers(I think it was) for cafe's lol


So I got to ask the predefined stuff isn't in exact match/quotes I guess, since it can turn up so much totally unrelavant stuff. Or am I mistaken?
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Originally Posted by BigMak View Post

Hi Luther,

Will this require proxies?
I've tested it pretty hard and so long as you're not spamming the heck out of the search, you shouldn't get flagged. If you do, worse off every so often Google would ask for a captcha, which will prompt a pop up and ask you to enter characters.

You can also get around this if you do a search from a browser, but the best practice is just pace the usage.

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Originally Posted by proteinman2222 View Post

Is there a real need for this from business owners???? How many total deals have you sold?
Greetings,

The short answer is yes. And here is a very good reason why taken from my earlier post;

In every business, market data needs to be both the foundation and driving force behind everything you do. Otherwise you are just guessing, and business owners who guess don't stay business owners for very long.

There is no better way to know-your-market. You must study your competition or be left behind.

Clients realize this, that's why companies create 40-person departments just to test and study competitor products, and unravel their marketing.
To address your other question;

I've been doing this for years, but only recently have I built software to make the job easier. As far as this particular service, I have several contracted monthly clients who pay me to conduct market research and create sales positions for their products/services.

They were closed with the goal of studying competition, generating a competing campaign, and summarizing steps for implementing them.

What I sold them was a "look before you leap" service that deconstructs their market, studies their competition, and offers valuable insight that they'll use to work their biz.

Put yourself in an owner's shoes. Some guy sold them a website in 2006 that doesn't make them a dime. He doesn't know how to fix it, and also does not have in house staff. Nor does he trust the local web site guys...

To him, his website is just one of a few things he'll ignore. It isn't valued, and he doesn't think a smart 'web guy' even exists on the planet. Plus, everyone is always asking him to buy something for his business. This is why certain types sales can be a challenge, even just to get their attention.

But offer a service with far-reaching implications and a high potential of reward, and you'll not only have the owner's attention, you'll get their respect (for professional insight and forethought) and when you get respect, you will get trust, and when you gain trust, you get money and a client to grow.

I could also argue that this type of pitching is the only one you should be focused on. Joe Owner has already heard 1000 sales pitches on everything from SEO to new rugs in his vestibule.

Which is more exciting?

(A)

"Out-smart your competitors"
"Steal 10 new customers a week"
"Keep an eye on trends and adjust promotions"
"Profit from new local markets"


or...

(B)

"I can fix your site so it doesn't look like..."
"You need mobile to get customers"
"Want to buy SMS, they are just a penny each!"
"Hire me to do social media for you and Ill get you more likes"


The first list is way more exciting, and not just because of the words I chose. The difference in message is stark; as is the benefit, and philosophy behind "your plan" for the client.

Sure, they need the things in (B,) but those are just tools to build a house.

Sure, we need tools to build a home, but ...who has the blueprints and walks around the construction site without breaking a sweat, and is also highly-respected as the maestro behind the music? The architect (designer) and the foreman (lead producer)

Real results rest firmly with (A); the concepts, messaging, research, and testing to guide the work.

Sell them whatever they want; however, you will not perform (B) properly if you don't aim for (A) - which is simply done by studying the competition and improving on the tactics used by rivals.

You can sell them whatever you want, but having a "bigger picture" approach is more responsible servicing, and in high demand because such creativity, attention-to-detail, and insight produces spectacular results;

Such as gorgeous buildings, or intelligently designed marketing campaigns that defeat even the most well-thought-out effort to steal your client's customers.

The software makes the research easier for architects and producers by providing the raw data, and guiding your search.

Sorry for the lengthy response, but you ask a very profound question.

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Originally Posted by vikingmarketer View Post

alright have been playing a bit with this, but I'm mostly finding stuff from gov sites and stuff like that so far. I am trying to switch between different stuff to see what can get me some useful results, I ended up finding a novel or what the hell it was when I searched for suppliers(I think it was) for cafe's lol


So I got to ask the predefined stuff isn't in exact match/quotes I guess, since it can turn up so much totally unrelavant stuff. Or am I mistaken?
Really appreciate the feedback. It will help me refine this.

You get some irrelevant stuff because we're venturing into the dark corners of Google's index. So yea you will find a variety of data quality. Try changing your search and playing with modifiers. I find some good stuff as well, so I suspect it is a combination of parameters and method/content of search.

It is analogous to mining for precious metals. We have to dig through mud, sand, granite, and quartz to get to the gold.

But give me a few days to play with it; I'll add a top-level modifier so we can do custom niches, and also tweak the formula a bit.

I'm also taking requests. If there's something you (anyone) wants added/changed, get your feedback in this thread and we'll get it in there if we can.

There is update check under tools, but I'll notify buyers via email. Buyers always get lifetime updates.

Thanks again!

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Just an update...

See the second reply for details on the next: ver 1.07. It vastly improves data quality and gives you more control, per the feedback.

I should have it public in a day or two.

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I think I get it that the information you might supply to a business owner using this software will vary from one situation to the next, that it's not a cookie cutter thing. Still, I am trying to get my mind around at least what the format of the "deliverable" is. For instance, do you typically sit down with your client and say, "Joe, here's what I think you should do to improve your business," and then maybe go through PowerPoint slides with him? Or is it more along the lines of printing out and dropping off a hard-copy report for him (plus being available of course if he has questions)? I'm just trying to visualize what it is that you put in his hands once you've done the research.
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Would I be able to use this for online/virtual businesses, too?
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Luthor - Looks really awesome but a question. If I need to install this on my desktop and I want it on my notebook for on the road use is this ok?

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Hi Luther,

Very interesting software - can it target other countries, ie. UK, Germany, etc?

Many thanks!

"EDITED" No reason to respond I saw another post that you say it works internationally - I obviously missed it.

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Hi Luther,

Please let me know more about how this tool may allow me to construct my own search strings without having to wait for implementation and therefore sharing my IP knowledge with others via updates and using the easy drop down niches that are built in.

The restaurant idea with the menus is an excellent example that you have made. Yet, I do not see this data being available nor common in my niches. Many of my niches do not publish adverts and pricing - online.

My niches are obscure when it comes to data mining. I simply do not desire to share my research ideas and strings in the buyers pool. Please let me know how I can use this tool in a way that gives the most flexibility and allows me to build cutting edge search strings for myself.

I do wonder if the appended modifiers to the predefined niches are added before or after the pre-defined search strings included in the software.

Thank you so much for your time and consideration regarding my question.
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I am curious...this software was Banned by whom?

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will this work in small towns with not much competition in the markets?
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Luthor

just went thru the material and i would like to ask a few questions if I may

a.) please provide a few case studies because the material is somewhat generic.. almost boiler plate so to speak like the old entrepreneur manuals.. by providing a few example markets you have used this specifically this would be a great help.

I have bought items from you before so I know you usually put out decent stuff..

b.) what kind of markets would you suggest with this that you have actually used successfully in a local area. that $1997 check you said you have gotten is that from existing clients.. what i mean is have you used this approach for getting new clients or best used for existing clients

I was thinking somehow incorporating this into ORM which is my focus

thanks

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Luther, how effective can I be using
email and direct mail?

I'm not able to meet with people
face to face?

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I am curious...this software was Banned by whom?

Thanks!
I'm also curious as to his claim that business owners are paying $1,997 for this software. Or are business owners paying $1,997 for the report you generate with the software?
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Originally Posted by DeeMiller999 View Post

Luther, how effective can I be using
email and direct mail?

I'm not able to meet with people
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Hi Dee,

Consider how much business is done without face to face? Advertisers sell $20,000 campaigns without ever leaving their cubicle.

Why would anyone buy?

Well because of the value that advertiser can deliver.

That said, you can sell almost anything over the phone with the right sales pitch and set of benefits. Much goes into the 'art of the close.' It is a discipline an entrepreneur must commit to, apply daily, and constantly improve upon.

Now, if telemarketers can sell a $5000 load mod, or a $6000 above ground pool over the telephone; don't you think you can sell $500 market research services that gives small biz owners a complete breakdown of their local market, plus intel on their competitors?

The same goes for a larger business who could afford higher fees.

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Originally Posted by tulsatech View Post

I'm also curious as to his claim that business owners are paying $1,997 for this software. Or are business owners paying $1,997 for the report you generate with the software?
The software is not something you sell, although I hear more than a few would like to white label this. I'll have a version for that soon.

Biz owners are paying me to do competitive research and developing marketing plans based on the market data found. This software performs data mining by finding assets in google's index. A human must do the interpretation for now, as I have not yet learned how to code artificial intelligence.

I'll get to more automation in future versions.

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will this work in small towns with not much competition in the markets?
This will work any where, for any part of the globe, providing you have a net connection, and your search is in English. Sorry to say there are no other languages available, but we are looking at how to implement a solution that will allow localization.

As far as finding stuff; the software doesn't invent data, it mines it; in order to be mined, the data must be there. We won't know that specific data is present unless we go looking for it.
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Originally Posted by seoevangelist View Post

Luthor - Looks really awesome but a question. If I need to install this on my desktop and I want it on my notebook for on the road use is this ok?

Thx,

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That's fine, you can use it on multiple devices. It will require an internet connection, and I'm guessing you have wan/wifi.



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Would I be able to use this for online/virtual businesses, too?
Yes, it can, and the custom fields in the next version will allow you to search for more specific things you need. I'll also consider any suggestion to make the software more useful for you.

Pressing to get 107 out in the next few hours.

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Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia View Post

Luthor

just went thru the material and i would like to ask a few questions if I may

a.) please provide a few case studies because the material is somewhat generic.. almost boiler plate so to speak like the old entrepreneur manuals.. by providing a few example markets you have used this specifically this would be a great help.

I have bought items from you before so I know you usually put out decent stuff..

b.) what kind of markets would you suggest with this that you have actually used successfully in a local area. that $1997 check you said you have gotten is that from existing clients.. what i mean is have you used this approach for getting new clients or best used for existing clients

I was thinking somehow incorporating this into ORM which is my focus

thanks

Eddie
Hi Eddie,

Thanks for the kind words and great questions.

I provide much specific use cases in the training video that I'm including in 1.07, but here's some examples of work I've performed:

Local food menu pricing - compile diner food menus and draw comparisons of menu dish content, dish prices, and drink prices. Used to adjust client pricing up to local averages, and better position holiday pricing over the diner's 3 main competitors.

Event marketing agency - compile case studies of events and brand/agency performance reviews of sponsorship activities. Locate sponsorship opportunities, break down by vertical, audience, cost, and terms for each month for 12 months.

Ad agency lead scrape - locate documents that contain names and contact information for potential connectors or buyers of creative print media

Auto dealer inventory - establish a better market position by studying how other dealers are marketing their used cars. Found marketing collateral, whitepapers, and ad programs to improve upon saving dealer thousands of dollars.

As far as which markets to target, that depends on what you (or anyone) wants to do.

Are you willing to read through the data and find the gems, and then build a 1 or 2 page fact sheet, or construct a service offer that is so packed with intelligent fact, a biz owner would have to be intoxicated not to take action on the knowledge?

Example: during 107 testing I found a complete breakdown of the mobile social media market in Australia. Everything from the age bands( <19, 30-50 yo) (20% more female), to use preference ( 60% coupons, 45% free) and that Australians in non-metro areas use Facebook more times per week than any where else in country.

As a result, I'd target non-metro areas businesses that serve females with a turnkey mobile coupon offer or loyalty program. I'd have to dig deeper to locate the market condition, and then seek examples of collateral & sales material. I'd then look at the local advertisers to see how they are marketing mobile, and to whom. Once, I have all that, I'd direct mail a refined targetbase, and follow up with call & email to qualify and close them.

I've used it for both. Strategic intel sells to both existing clients, and is a perfect lead in for new ones.

Something I said earlier:

But offer a service with far-reaching implications and a high potential of reward [to anyone,] and you'll not only have the owner's attention, you'll get their respect (for professional insight and forethought) and when you get respect, you will get trust, and when you gain trust, you get money and a client to grow.
Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by Syzygy999 View Post

I think I get it that the information you might supply to a business owner using this software will vary from one situation to the next, that it's not a cookie cutter thing. Still, I am trying to get my mind around at least what the format of the "deliverable" is. For instance, do you typically sit down with your client and say, "Joe, here's what I think you should do to improve your business," and then maybe go through PowerPoint slides with him? Or is it more along the lines of printing out and dropping off a hard-copy report for him (plus being available of course if he has questions)? I'm just trying to visualize what it is that you put in his hands once you've done the research.
It can be a combination. I've worked with clients who just want to hear me speak about the things I've found, and not produce any special reports. Most get reports each month or quarterly that you can build in an afternoon.

Yes, it will vary greatly as there are a near infinite amount of possibilities, and the probably of finding junk data. In 107, I've done a fairly good job of removing junk data from the search. I've also increased the average yield of returns per 10 pages significantly by tweaking the search formula. That update will go out soon.

The deliverable will be very, very simple and you pretty much nailed it already.

It isn't: "here's what I think we should do..."

It is: "this is what the data is telling us to do"

Show him the data that proves your point of why they need what you're selling. It will be unique to each problem so it isn't something I can lay out easily.

You can do that in a 1 page fact sheet, and I'll attempt to explain in a formula of sorts.

Look at this: A
Because of: B
You're losing: C

"The data says you can have A, if you fix B, but not only will you gain on C, but you will also get D"

Where D are the hottest benefits...

Book them on either consulting with you to research one area, or by producing regular reports on areas of business. Competitive reports are the hottest ticket for the consulting project. It is lower risk for the company, and can be done more cost effectively outside.

If your goal is not a sales pitch for other service, and you just want to sell information; summarize what you find and make recommendations with the goal of extreme client benefit. Forecast a little. Take liberties. "If you do just A, you could possibly see B, but if you do A+C; a greater result is expected" - Stick with niches, content, and concepts that are familiar to you, and grow out from there.

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1.07 is now live. Simply re-download to get the update and updated manual.

New buyers will get the update in the product package.

Existing buyers will be notified by email, or just click Tools>Update Check to see if you need it.

See second reply of this thread for details on the update.

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I love data mining.

I think I could sell this service via a Weekend Webinar Blitz, don't you, Luther?

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Did you mean a webinar to the prospective report end user?
If so would you show examples of the report? I think it would be an interesting webinar if you showed the search process but you might not want to show how easy the software makes the data collection otherwise I'd think the perceived value of the report would go down. What might the webinar content include?
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Did you mean a webinar to the prospective report end user?
If so would you show examples of the report? I think it would be an interesting webinar if you showed the search process but you might not want to show how easy the software makes the data collection otherwise I'd think the perceived value of the report would go down. What might the webinar content include?
Just to add, he's speaking of a product I have for selling offline services via webinar. You can check it out here.

You raise a very good point; you don't want the client knowing what tools you use. Otherwise they might try to go around you, even though research skill, know-how and what to look for plays a critical role in the raw and interpreted data.
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Still awaiting my REFUND...
Yes, the refund is in process. Please direct all support requests to my support desk.
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Did you mean a webinar to the prospective report end user?
If so would you show examples of the report? I think it would be an interesting webinar if you showed the search process but you might not want to show how easy the software makes the data collection otherwise I'd think the perceived value of the report would go down. What might the webinar content include?
I meant specifically one of Luther's prior offerings - Weekend Webinar Blitz.

I have done a few webinars, so they don't scare me now. Got a $5000 client off of one earlier this month.

I wouldn't show the software per se, although I think you could. For a moment, pretend you are showing some retail business owner the inside of cpanel and wordpress. Most of them would just say, "you do it, and bill me."

I would show them some reports that are close to what they want. I might even show them what their competitors could find out about them!! That's if I showed one owner at a time. But, if presenting to a group of attendees, I'd just show example raw and compiled data reports.

Intro -> content -> transition to value (if you liked my free content, just think how much you will like the full service) -> tell them what they get -> price walkdown -> how to apply for my service (call to action is get them to apply at your link)
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Luther, this fits my brain really well.

I'm a researcher at heart. Pulling a bunch of pieces together and making a report is what Ph.D.s do. Or at least that's how we are trained.

That adds VALUE. And it's fun.


You know, I strolled through some government stuff yesterday and came up with an idea that someone might want to take and run with. Most government documents are in the public domain. I see making Kindle books and maybe smartphone apps from reworking the output.

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Requests that I have thought of...


1. Make the URLs in the CSV files clickable. That would save tons of time.

2. For the Niche dropdown, I like your list. But what if I come up with an idea that is not on your list? Could their be a blank field that we could fill in? I thought of a couple late last night, and can't even remember them now.

3. On the File Type dropdown, I would like to be able to select all or multiple types sometimes.

4. I do think we need more training on how to use the Modifier field.


Any of these would be much appreciated, Luther.

Thanks.

Mark


Edit: I see you got the custom niche. Great job! Thanks. But the pathname should start with the custom niche string, don't you think? That would be consistent.
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Dr Mark! Rock on sir! I am truly grateful for your elaborate feedback and ideas.

Multiple types and selections shouldn't be an issue, but the way I have it working now is very ...linear.

I can expand on the function to work with more threads and multiple 'directions' to compile type data in tandem with a single search. Badass.

I believe you can make the URL in csv clickable by saving as a xls. It is a minor extra step, and I'll look at improving that as well.

Ultimately, I'd like an in-app browser and report gen, but still learning a few libraries to manipulate and realize the data.
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Interesting little software.....

One thing I noticed in the drop down list you might want to change 'Bread & Breakfast' to Bed & Breakfast.... unless there is something called Bread and Breakfast that I haven't heard of before....
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Interesting little software.....

One thing I noticed in the drop down list you might want to change 'Bread & Breakfast' to Bed & Breakfast.... unless there is something called Bread and Breakfast that I haven't heard of before....
Yes, spelling mistake :|

We'll get that fixed up. Thanks for the heads up.
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I'm also thinking that you could use this backwards in some cases, too.

That is, show a business owner stuff that they might not want their competition to see regarding them. Then figure out a way to get it removed or edited or secured or whatever it takes to clean it up.
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I'm also thinking that you could use this backwards in some cases, too.

That is, show a business owner stuff that they might not want their competition to see regarding them. Then figure out a way to get it removed or edited or secured or whatever it takes to clean it up.
Right you are. One easy way with apache servers that has rewrites enabled:

Just add;

Code:
Options -Indexes
...to a line in the htaccess file of the folder you wish to secure.

Or create one and put in that line.

Very simple stuff, that you can charge good money for.
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Hi Luther,

This is really excellent material and very reasonably priced for what one can sell it for.

I bought a fair few of your WSOs before, and what I appreciate most is that you are clearly a real offline businessman, working directly with business owners, understanding their business and giving us strategies and techniques that should work for us too.

I'll gladly spend another $27 for the OTO if it is specific to this product and not sold as a previous product or as an OTO (eg in Local Business Lures 2, SMSM List Blast Promo/Notifier, OCMWASalesMaterial).

If it was sold previously, could you tell us as what product or OTO so we don't double up and then bother you for the refund.

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Hi luther, I had a quick scan thro' the listing etc above, but did not see a question I would like the answer to:

Can this software be able to run & obtain the same level of info in the UK as it does in the US?

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Hi Luther,

This is really excellent material and very reasonably priced for what one can sell it for.

I bought a fair few of your WSOs before, and what I appreciate most is that you are clearly a real offline businessman, working directly with business owners, understanding their business and giving us strategies and techniques that should work for us too.

I'll gladly spend another $27 for the OTO if it is specific to this product and not sold as a previous product or as an OTO (eg in Local Business Lures 2, SMSM List Blast Promo/Notifier, OCMWASalesMaterial).

If it was sold previously, could you tell us as what product or OTO so we don't double up and then bother you for the refund.

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Hi Alan,

Thanks for the kind words!

The sales kit and training for this package are unique.

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Hi luther, I had a quick scan thro' the listing etc above, but did not see a question I would like the answer to:

Can this software be able to run & obtain the same level of info in the UK as it does in the US?

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Hi Gray,

That's correct. It will work any where for any locale with an internet connection.

You can't switch languages, but is functionally the same across all markets.

Thanks for your Q.

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Just a heads up, now that 1.07 is live, I'm going to start on 1.08.

Click on tools>update check to see if you need it. The easiest way to get that update is to redownload from your JVzoo account. I can't push updates just yet (a limit with the platform) but we'll get there soon.

For 108, my idea is for more custom control over doctypes and filetypes. I also have some feedback that I couldn't get into '7 but will probably make it in 8.

I also have a surprise feature for the next version that I think you're going to love.

If anyone has more recoms, lay it out for me here or via support.

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Hi Luther,
does this work in all countries or only the USA? From what I gather in earlier posts the answer is yes.
What I am really asking is can I do a competitive search for my local town business owner in a country outside of the USA
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Hi Luther,
does this work in all countries or only the USA?
Thanks.
This will work any where there is an internet connection, and find documents any where that are in English.

You can trick it to support native languages, by using them in the custom fields, along with your locations.

This is one of the reason why I'll be adding more custom fields; this way you can structure queries in your own tongue.

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Does this work in hotel/motel industry?
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I'm also thinking that you could use this backwards in some cases, too.

That is, show a business owner stuff that they might not want their competition to see regarding them. Then figure out a way to get it removed or edited or secured or whatever it takes to clean it up.
You've just listed the single biggest reason for me to buy this product. People tend to take action on fear of loss and in this case exposure of sensitive business documents. In this age of online privacy being mentioned in the news on an almost daily basis, it shouldn't be too hard of a sell. Kinda like taking candy from a baby provided the initial introduction highlights a small bit of information that only the business owner knows. Can you say, cut the check now.
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I got this software and the oto and I think it has great promise. I am having the hardest time getting relevant results though. Is there a way to single out a competitor in the search? Would you put the competitors business name in the custom niche field? Would it be necessary to put the competitors exact zip code for a modifier? I'm not quite sure how to put this to the best use when trying to pick apart "general" competition and "particular" competition.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I got this software and the oto and I think it has great promise. I am having the hardest time getting relevant results though. Is there a way to single out a competitor in the search? Would you put the competitors business name in the custom niche field? Would it be necessary to put the competitors exact zip code for a modifier? I'm not quite sure how to put this to the best use when trying to pick apart "general" competition and "particular" competition.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I totally agree...

Also, in the training it mentions using a + symbol to link modifiers. That also makes me wonder, since this uses Google, can we use the same Google customization search operators (such as "double quotes", the AND/OR statements, the - symbol etc...) in this program and if so, how? That would make it much easier to narrow down results to the good stuff.

If not, are there any other operators we can use in the Modifier box (or any of the other boxes) besides the + symbol?
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I'm ready to buy Luther...but a recurring issues seems to keep popping up as in the above posts.......results that are not relevant or targeted. In order for a business to be able to use the information we provide, it must be targeted or they will not care. It must be relevant to their type of business......not a lot of others that they would feel are not relevant to them specifically. Let us know your thoughts and how you plan to address this issue, or if you can create better filters for us to use for this very important need.

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