Do you hate my navigation menue?

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Do you not like my navigation menu? Or think its okay?

I got a link to my site today... and I followed it back to find that someone made fun of my website design =( - I made a small change since then... but tell me what you think please

www.SnackMemory.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Zenoth
    Damn, what is with all that links in your navigation menu? (sorry, but I couldn't stop not tell you this).
    Before I visited your site, I said to myself, how bad can it be?
    The answer is, BAD.

    Why would you want such a menu? It will be very hard for someone to really find what is looking for among all those links. Do you really need all that links at the top of your site? Are all that important?

    I guess not.

    Things like " Leave A Comment / Talk About It, Terms and Conditions Of Use, Privacy Policy, About Us" can be moved in footer.

    If you think this will help your site in SEO terms, you are wrong. A sitemap will be just enough.

    A navigation menu should include only the most important pages that will help your visitors to find other pages (like categories or the most important pages).
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by Zenoth View Post

      Damn, what is with all that links in your navigation menu? (sorry, but I couldn't stop not tell you this).
      Before I visited your site, I said to myself, how bad can it be?
      The answer is, BAD.

      Why would you want such a menu? It will be very hard for someone to really find what is looking for among all those links. Do you really need all that links at the top of your site? Are all that important?

      I guess not.

      Things like " Leave A Comment / Talk About It, Terms and Conditions Of Use, Privacy Policy, About Us" can be moved in footer.

      If you think this will help your site in SEO terms, you are wrong. A sitemap will be just enough.

      A navigation menu should include only the most important pages that will help your visitors to find other pages (like categories or the most important pages).

      Thanks for your input.


      My idea was to let everyone be able to see all the snacks I have to read about and to choose any one of them fast and easy. Without getting lost in tabs that may not be organized perfectly.


      Do you have any additional suggestions on how I should make my navigation look?
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  • Profile picture of the author MedLogic
    Way too much. Users need to know where to focus. Nav Menus should really only have 5 +/- links for usability.
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by MedLogic View Post

      Way too much. Users need to know where to focus. Nav Menus should really only have 5 +/- links for usability.
      Thanks for the Advise... Any suggestions on how I should group my topics? Im afraid people who just want the info they came for will not look through if nothing catches there eye right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilyFontane
    wow, interesting. It looks visually nice. But there is far too much going on to take any of it in! if you need to have that many menu links, why not create a drop-down menu or something?
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by LilyFontane View Post

      wow, interesting. It looks visually nice. But there is far too much going on to take any of it in! if you need to have that many menu links, why not create a drop-down menu or something?
      Well I was afraid no would bother to scroll through .. I wanted the items on the counter for people to look at, so to speak.


      But yes perhaps I should think of categories.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahjeff4u
    Yes, definitely needs some work to be done on its navigation Menu. It is not looking good and everything is messed up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
    It only looks bad now because of the format you are using. Yes, you need drop down menu's, would be so much easier on your visitors. You just have to many pages (can be a good thing) to put all in one menu.

    I know you did not ask, but a couple other things about your site. You have way too much white space. White space is not all bad, breaks up the content and makes it easier to read, but just too much here.

    Also, your listing of all the snacks, what about putting them in columns, like a table? you could have probably 4 columns and shorten your page greatly, so your visitors won't have to scroll so much.

    Just some thoughts
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by Ron Killian View Post

      It only looks bad now because of the format you are using. Yes, you need drop down menu's, would be so much easier on your visitors. You just have to many pages (can be a good thing) to put all in one menu.

      I know you did not ask, but a couple other things about your site. You have way too much white space. White space is not all bad, breaks up the content and makes it easier to read, but just too much here.

      Also, your listing of all the snacks, what about putting them in columns, like a table? you could have probably 4 columns and shorten your page greatly, so your visitors won't have to scroll so much.

      Just some thoughts
      Great advice, thanks. I am now looking into turning the main list of snacks on my homepage into columns, such as A,B,C's.. and then the next line D,E,F's and so on.


      Ill also look into cutting down on some of the blank white space.


      Do you have any suggestions on how to categorize or set up my snacks in drop downs so I can cut down on the clutter of my navigation? I fear people wont bother to look if it does not catch there eye at first glance. and right now I have what seems to be a respectable "look through" rate.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
        Originally Posted by SnackMemory View Post

        Do you have any suggestions on how to categorize or set up my snacks in drop downs so I can cut down on the clutter of my navigation? I fear people wont bother to look if it does not catch there eye at first glance. and right now I have what seems to be a respectable "look through" rate.
        You know your site or niche better than I. Only thing I can think is like A-D,E-K, ect.

        Or maybe a much better solution for you would be to have all your categories in a side bar. I think in your situation, it would be a much better way to go. Would look more pleasing to the eye, more organized and more professional. Do is all in the side bar and take it out from the top. Would make more sense to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
          Originally Posted by Ron Killian View Post

          You know your site or niche better than I. Only thing I can think is like A-D,E-K, ect.

          Or maybe a much better solution for you would be to have all your categories in a side bar. I think in your situation, it would be a much better way to go. Would look more pleasing to the eye, more organized and more professional. Do is all in the side bar and take it out from the top. Would make more sense to me.


          Yes thanks, im working on a new look for the nav menu now.. I cleaned up my home page list so its not so long, ill likely be making more changes to that as well. Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author plumt
    This isn't going to convert - you need something that draws people in, show them photos of the snacks they are looking for on the homepage - you are putting in all that text for the search engines, but forgetting that once people get there, they are going to bounce fast.
    You need to rethink this...
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    • Profile picture of the author ValTexDesigns
      when making a navigation menu you have to consider several different aspects (and others) such as is it intuitive for a visitor to navigate, do search engines parse it well, and does it make sense in general.

      long story short, no matter how many visitors get driven to your site, as soon as they see it they'll be driven away. i don't mean to say that in an ugly way, i'm just trying to point out why you won't get any attention from your site.

      think of it from an average surfer's standpoint. if you came across this site, would you click on or sign up for anything? probably not. a simple site map will get your pages indexed. though when your page is found by a surfer they'll just hit back and continue on to the next site.

      if you want any further guidance, feel free to send me a PM.

      micheal
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      • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
        Originally Posted by ValTexDesigns View Post

        when making a navigation menu you have to consider several different aspects (and others) such as is it intuitive for a visitor to navigate, do search engines parse it well, and does it make sense in general.

        long story short, no matter how many visitors get driven to your site, as soon as they see it they'll be driven away. i don't mean to say that in an ugly way, i'm just trying to point out why you won't get any attention from your site.

        think of it from an average surfer's standpoint. if you came across this site, would you click on or sign up for anything? probably not. a simple site map will get your pages indexed. though when your page is found by a surfer they'll just hit back and continue on to the next site.

        if you want any further guidance, feel free to send me a PM.

        micheal

        Thank you for the advise... I get some sales from affiliate sources, but I think there is great room for improvement. I never realized it could turn people away, thank you for the advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author ValTexDesigns
      Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z View Post

      I would instantly close your site from my browser. Sorry to be brutally honest
      see my point?

      another good way to look at website design is to look at websites that obviously work, especially those that are similar in nature to what you want to accomplish. but regardless, go to sites like aol.com, drudgereport.com, heck even perezhilton.com and analyze why their sites are driving so much traffic. then compare it to what you're trying to accomplish and go from there...

      micheal
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      • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
        Hey, c'mon now guys, it is Snack Memory.

        I'm curious, what kind of bounce rates are you dealing with here?
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        • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          Hey, c'mon now guys, it is Snack Memory.

          I'm curious, what kind of bounce rates are you dealing with here?
          Well its midnight now, my stats for today are...


          Today, Out of 72 unique organic search engine users, I have a 82.37% bounce rate. 1.7 page views per person. 82 visits total from Google organic.


          Total unique visitors from all sources is 124 - Bounce rate 78.35% - 1.8 page views



          I do get some sales commissions here and there from Ebay and Amazon affiliate on an every other day basis.

          .........


          Monthly stats - 4,176 unique visitors 79.72% Bounce rate - 1.8 page views per person. - 2:15 minutes
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      • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
        Originally Posted by ValTexDesigns View Post

        see my point?

        another good way to look at website design is to look at websites that obviously work, especially those that are similar in nature to what you want to accomplish. but regardless, go to sites like aol.com, drudgereport.com, heck even perezhilton.com and analyze why their sites are driving so much traffic. then compare it to what you're trying to accomplish and go from there...

        micheal
        Thank you for the advice
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z View Post

      I would instantly close your site from my browser. Sorry to be brutally honest
      Well thanks for the information. Good to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlo Manf
    Hi SnackMemory. What I would do is I would move that list down the page and into a sidebar column, or even the footer, and reserve the header menu for major pages such as 'About Us'.
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by Carlo Manf View Post

      Hi SnackMemory. What I would do is I would move that list down the page and into a sidebar column, or even the footer, and reserve the header menu for major pages such as 'About Us'.


      Thank you for the advise... Perhaps I could try a side bar or something
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  • Profile picture of the author karlstech
    Whoa, I got dizzy just looking at it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Monkmoney
    Needs work for sure

    Also I browse on mobile and your site is not mobile optimized

    Awesome website topic though..bonkers were my favorite
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by Monkmoney View Post

      Needs work for sure

      Also I browse on mobile and your site is not mobile optimized

      Awesome website topic though..bonkers were my favorite

      Can you give me an example of how it is badly optimized? I don't have a mobile to check it out on.. Google master tools said no issues on its crawl for mobile optimization.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    The entire webpage looks like crap.

    You should never again be allowed to edit a webpage.
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    • Profile picture of the author karlstech
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The entire webpage looks like crap.

      You should never again be allowed to edit a webpage.
      This. You sir, just spoke the truth!
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The entire webpage looks like crap.

      You should never again be allowed to edit a webpage.


      LOL!! Well after excitedly following this new organic do follow link to my site I see that it is someone suggestion I should be called the worst website design of the month. It was from a website design thread of sorts I believe.
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    • Profile picture of the author deezn
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The entire webpage looks like crap.

      You should never again be allowed to edit a webpage.
      Wonder if he's trolling for more links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monkmoney
    Dont give up..your topic rules..I would even be a loyal follower since you have a lot of great information and cobtent, id share it in a second with people

    Except, id be embarressed in its current state to show anyone

    It truly needs an overhaul of design, but ill keep up to date..see how it comes a long
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    • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
      Originally Posted by Monkmoney View Post

      Dont give up..your topic rules..I would even be a loyal follower since you have a lot of great information and cobtent, id share it in a second with people

      Except, id be embarressed in its current state to show anyone

      It truly needs an overhaul of design, but ill keep up to date..see how it comes a long


      Thank you! I am currently working on ideas to change my Site's design.i do love my site I must say, and I am getting both traffic, some decent page views, and some sales. So I think im on the right track. I see now I need more work to make my website more likable to people.
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    A good designer sir.... you are not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monkmoney
    Have the home page dedicated with some spotlight articles, an explanplation of the content, and a search box so people can search for their favorites

    On the side bar, have different ways to access the articles such as "full list" which when the click.goes to an infinite scrolling pagebof everything

    Then put "browse by year"

    Then put "browse by type"
    "Browse alphabetically"

    Ect ect these are just examples

    That waY, your home page isnt cluttered, it has random spotlight articles of snacks, an exolanation, and an.intuitive eay for viewers to see theres more content elsewhere, and many ways to browse it
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  • Profile picture of the author Logoguts
    May be this looks good but the reality is difference, i am sure you got my point This navigation is not seo friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronBurton
    Too many links!!!! hahaha. You should have a minimum of like 5-7 at the top with smaller font. Thats very busy and does not read at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Interesting idea, but yeah, too much, l would suggest an image in the background, should break up the dark background and text.

      And when someone clicks on the Red lettering below, have it lighten, not disappear, it just looks like a nav, bug?

      Take a look at the site nav, l did below!

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      • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Interesting idea, but yeah, too much, l would suggest an image in the background, should break up the dark background and text.

        And when someone clicks on the Red lettering below, have it lighten, not disappear, it just looks like a nav, bug?

        Take a look at the site nav, l did below!

        thanks alot for the advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author SnackMemory
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Interesting idea, but yeah, too much, l would suggest an image in the background, should break up the dark background and text.

        And when someone clicks on the Red lettering below, have it lighten, not disappear, it just looks like a nav, bug?

        Take a look at the site nav, l did below!


        Ya I fixed that color, I had it set to white for when highlighted, changed it to green. Thanks I never realized.
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliatebuddy
    why dont you uninstall WP and start fresh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Markets
    I always forget why I never come to this section, and this is exactly why.

    When have you ever seen a site like this? Never, meaning it's no good and won't work, and never will..

    Too much on one page, narrow it down.
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