Calling All Warriors: Do You Build Static Sites With XSitePro Or Dyamic Sites Like Wordpress?

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Due to the posts today, this question just has to be asked again...

Are you more of a static site maker using XSitePro(2) or an active site such as WordPress?

I am sure everyone and their brother will have an opinion about this, in fact I am encouraging it!

So I ask you fellow warriors to drop your weapons just long enough to cast your vote now!
#build #calling #dyamic #sites #static #warriors #wordpress #xsitepro
  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    I used to use Xsitepro but now I use Wordpress for just about everything.

    Quentin
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  • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
    Just another Wordpress blog....oh i mean user.


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    Wordpress. Period.

    Google loves WP.
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      I create sites for Contractor and Service businesses and WP just doesn't have the Themes I need for my "Niches" (Roofers, Architects, Plumbers, Electricians, Painters, Landscapers, Pest Control, Realtors, etc) So, rather than fighting City Hall with each site....I use XSitePro2 and pop in the Photos I need.

      However....Wp is TERRFIFIC for "Church Websites" or any site where you would like your clients to be able to go in and change things on their site at any time. Sure beats having clients send you stuff and you then pop it to the site.

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      • Profile picture of the author Quentin
        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        I create sites for Contractor and Service businesses and WP just doesn't have the Themes I need for my "Niches" (Roofers, Architects, Plumbers, Electricians, Painters, Landscapers, Pest Control, Realtors, etc) So, rather than fighting City Hall with each site....I use XSitePro2 and pop in the Photos I need.

        Midas Man
        My customers are the same and wordpress works great. I use Artisteer to develop a custom theme for them which is great because they can download and tweak if they like.

        Quentin
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        • Profile picture of the author KenJ
          I use both

          I intensely dislike using wordpress but that is due to my html background. I can get an html/css site looking just the way I want in minutes. I find the wordpress templates poor and often patronizing and to edit them takes hours.

          There is also a feeling that I am not fully in control of the wordpress interface because of the constant updates.

          Having said this I still use blogs when I need to, but xsitepro is my first choice by a mile
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  • Profile picture of the author Aljiro
    It depends on the situation and what I need done. Usually I go for Wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author abhi1
    Depends on what I'm building the site around. Like if it's some squeeze page or sales pages, I make it static HTML/PHP and if it's a blog or review page, I go for wordpress and joomla
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  • Profile picture of the author navjotjsingh
    I always used Wordpress to build my sites whenever possible. I even try to bend Wordpress to work like a CMS if I want a static type website so I hardly work on anything other than Wordpress. Never heard of XsitePro though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    I've been using both, and I would choose wordpress over anything else, every day.

    My offline business site is made in xsitepro, and I'm going to change it to wordpress, and use WP as a CMS with a proper, professional theme.

    What I love about wordpress, is all the possibilities, as well as you can edit it from anywhere. It's also easier for SEO, as well as your content "gets more value". WP creates tag pages, category pages, etc. Which also boost your rankings.

    You can also install the global translator plugin,and get your website translated into many languages, and get way more traffic that way too.

    Plus, if you're not too picky, you can find great themes, and put them to use immediately.

    I create websites in WP for my clients, and the know I use an existing theme etc.
    I'll have to translate it into my language, add plugins and customize it, but it makes everything easier in the end, and it's fast to make them as well.

    Gotta love wordpress...
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      I have both and used to build all my sites with xSitePro...but as others said, after discovering all the SEO benefits of Wordpress, I've switched up the game completely and now I pretty much only use Wordpress to build sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkH45
    It's relatively easy to make a static site using Wordpress so I don't know why anyone feels the need to use xSitePro....
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    • Profile picture of the author ErikSaether
      I'm probably a Wordpress addict. I used to do HTML (both XSitePro and Dreamweaver) but was soon on the lookout for a CMS time saver. Instantly I became a big fan(atic) of WP.

      Not sure though, if WP is such a time saver. I often find my self customizing themes, adding, deleting and hacking various codes. But it's fun.

      With the flexibility and constant development of themes and plugins I can't find any good reason why I should switch from WP back to HTML...
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    • Profile picture of the author LynnM
      Another WP user here, for all the reasons mentioned above.
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  • Profile picture of the author ladyshadowrider
    I mostly use WordPress because like others have said, it's so easy to get a site up and running with it and the SEO plugins, as well as other plugins, do the heavy lifting for you such as privacy policy, contact forms, etc.

    However, there are occasions when I use an html editor (don't own Xsite, saw no reason to buy it) for sales pages and squeeze pages.

    JMPE,
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    I have recently started to use WordPress for the reasons above. I have set up my blog usin gWordPress and it has been indexed by Google extremely quickly. My next priority is to understand the best way to back up my WordPress site.

    I know now how to back up the database, but need some guidance on backing up the actual wordpress configuration. Maybe I will ask this question separately if it has not been asked too many times before. When I created my owm html sites backup was not an issue.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by David Louis Monk View Post

      I have recently started to use WordPress for the reasons above. I have set up my blog usin gWordPress and it has been indexed by Google extremely quickly. My next priority is to understand the best way to back up my WordPress site.

      I know now how to back up the database, but need some guidance on backing up the actual wordpress configuration. Maybe I will ask this question separately if it has not been asked too many times before. When I created my owm html sites backup was not an issue.

      There's a plugin for that WordPress › WP-DB-Backup WordPress Plugins

      With this plugin you can site it to periodically backup your site.

      If you need to restore a site for any reason, you take the wp sql file and dump it in the database.

      As long as the plugins you've used are activated, and image gallery folders etc are in place, the configuration should remain the same. It is a good idea to back up the entire site sometimes, just in case some malicious hacker manages to deface your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author ex9to5guy
    wordpress it is then
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  • I'm a Wordpress guy, but I sometimes build a static site as the index with a blog on the backend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Les Tatum
    I used to spend ages building static sites but now I use WP for just about everything. Google loves it, it's easy to get a site up and done quickly, and you can do just about everything with it. I use it for static looking sites, membership sites, ecommerce sites, sales pages, optin pages, and others. It's also easy to create or modify a theme to suit just about any purpose.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manfred Ekblad
    Wordpress is great, really multi-purpose.

    The multi-user version is good as well, it lets me host and manage multiple blogs from one admin interface.
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  • Profile picture of the author JOHN_RODRIGUEZ
    I also use WP. Some reasons (in no particular order):
    -Tons of great looking themes
    -I use a variety of very cool plugins (both free and paid) to monetize my site and also to help get traffic to my site
    -I get a good amount of traffic from promoting my blogs RSS feed

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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron H
    WP every time now, used to hand code but I've seen the error of my ways, suppose the HTML/CSS experience helps if I feel the need to have a mess with a template.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I use Wordpress most of the time. I find it easier to use and customize than other CMS. This thread shows that IMM is mainly WP territory. However, each CMS has its respective strengths. Lots of great stuff has been done with XSitePro, Joomla!, Drupal, and other content management systems.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Wordpress for me ... much easier to flip a Wordpress site in my opinion. Much easier getting ranking in the big G also ... at least for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Shain
      Ya know I thought this thread would turn into a no-holds-barred wrestlemania even.

      Instead it turned into a quiet a** whooping on XSitePro. Ok a** whoopin may be too harsh "got no love" is more like it.

      I have been a hardcore coder using notepad in the old days. My wife bought me Macromedia Homesite which was a real eye opener.

      Earlier in the yeae I bought XSitePro2 and wow what an eye opener that its!

      Looks like the next best thing for me to do is see what WordPress can do - though I have never been a huge fan of blogging.

      Thanks for all the replies!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Neither ... I build all my sites from the ground up ... I do not use any kind of software or open source, all my sites are hand coded..

    XSitePro's html seriously sucks ... Sorry to say it but I have seen many of those pre-made OTO Templates and Every single one I purchased I had to recode because of the poor coding...

    James
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  • XSitePro is an okay product. WordPress is a much better product.

    I cut my lawn with a pair of hand clippers (Hand Coding Reference) ... oh wait I use a Power Mower.... I have a lot of lawn to mow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Gray
    I use both, Xsite Pro for sites that do not need to be active or updated on a consistent basis and WP for those that do. Once you have your site spidered the things that you can do with WP will make the organic listing results easier and quicker to obtain. But getting a 1st page ranking with Xsite pro built sites can be done.

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  • Profile picture of the author zorus
    if i'm going to use fresh content wordpress, if i'm going to use copied content, my own software which make full websites with articles i set it. of course i can use fresh content too with my delphi created program.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom
      Hi,

      I've been using Xsitepro, but I would like to have a go with Wordpress and make a static looking site with wordpress.

      Can anyone recommend a guide or tutorial that gives you advise on how to make a wordpress site look like a normal HTML site?

      I'm no coding expert, but I don't mind altering source code if that's what's needed to achieve this.


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      • Profile picture of the author C A Perez
        OK guys and gals, I'm a little late in getting into this thread. I was searching for an answer to: How do I create another blog/website with wordpress? I found this thread.

        These posts imply that you can use WP for both a blog (dynamic?) weblog and a "static?" weblog. How do you do that? Does static mean using pages only and no posts?

        I use hostgator for my host. Do I download a new WP install for every website that I want to create?

        I want to create individual pages for product reviews.

        I built my first website with WP and even chaged the theme on the run. Which baffled me, but I did it.

        Any help would be appreciated. I hope this is thge right place to ask this.

        Thanks,
        Carlos :confused:

        PS: I do not know CSS or HTML. I'm learning as I go. Bought a couple of books and I'm using W3 and other online tutorials. But I'm also trying to create a profit by doing something on the fly, as best I can.
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        • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
          Originally Posted by C A Perez View Post

          I use hostgator for my host. Do I download a new WP install for every website that I want to create?
          If you are using hostgator, the Control Panel has an option called Fantastico (Look for it under Software/Services). Using Fantastico, you can install WP for any of your websites hosted with HG without having to download it or going into details.
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          • Profile picture of the author C A Perez
            Originally Posted by ERPConsultant View Post

            If you are using hostgator, the Control Panel has an option called Fantastico (Look for it under Software/Services). Using Fantastico, you can install WP for any of your websites hosted with HG without having to download it or going into details.
            Thanks ERP
            In desperation I called Hostgator day before yesterday and got the answer.
            Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    I use almost everything but WP and Blogger have been good to me and have made me a lot of money with little effort.

    My favorite though would have to be ... ......... ... Wordpress. Why?.... search engines love them (with good content & SEO) of course.

    The plugins for WP are truly amazing and changing or adding anything for a wp blog is as easy as 123.

    Another great thing is everyone else is familiar with WP as well, good for if and when you hire a freelancer to do some work for you.

    cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Let's stop with the "SE's love WP" stuff. SEs like words on pages, with links to those pages. Google doesn't care if a page is html, php, from WP or any other blogging platform. It wants relevent text and links.

    WP does automate a lot of the SEO stuff. However, it also limits much of the SEO stuff. I like the control of html.

    With static HTML, you have control over each page on an individual basis, as well as every elememt on each page. For example, I may want to have some pages repeat a keyword in the page title, other times just use the keyword once.

    Individual html pages give an SEOer control for "link sculpting", which means the strategy of linking your own sites' pages for maximum benefit. Much harder to do with WP.

    HTML pages will load faster and take less server resources. If you're using Adwords or have a sales letter, load speed can be vital.

    For every plug in for WP, there's a php or perl script that can be added to pages using includes.

    Try adding javascript or custom forms to WP pages.

    Static html pages are backed up on your hard drive. This also makes them very easy to move.

    And, web pages don't have to be html and can be php pages, which gives even more flexibility.

    This question has come up many times before...Truth is, I use hybrid html pages with lots of dynamic elements. I have programs that will create RSS pheeds and ping, using html pages...And IMO RSS and ping is the major benefit of blogs.

    PS...Why is this question limited to XSitePRO as the only way to create html sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author d101
    Hi,

    ... i would think, in order to change stuff, test versions and react to visitor behavior, it needs a dynamic database driven system, that takes care of everything by switching a couple of buttons.

    The output might look static, actually i think in terms of url, it should always look simple, direct and meaningful - without any dynamic "get parameters" or numbers.

    Having said that, files and folders are a pain in the but to maintain and ultimately very time consuming and expensive.

    SEO is foremost asking for the right content, words and structure in combination with clean html structure, with all the relevant elements used. Order of the html might be relevant, ...

    I like to think about user experience, usability and usefulness for my visitor first.

    The challenge is to have design, corporate identity, usability, functionality and SEO combined together .... without getting lost in it.

    Now add personal style, flexibility and tracking and it starts to get fun.

    I have been working for the last 6 years on a system that helps with that - and a little bit more.

    I would be delighted, if you´d have a look at my youtube channel, where i start sharing some of the stuff ... you´ll find it at youtube.com/supersecretsoftware

    best,
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  • Profile picture of the author jamawebinc
    Originally Posted by hyperlite View Post

    Google seems to love Wordpress sites.
    Originally Posted by Marcus Paul View Post

    Wordpress. Period.

    Google loves WP.
    Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

    I have both and used to build all my sites with xSitePro...but as others said, after discovering all the SEO benefits of Wordpress
    Originally Posted by Les Tatum View Post

    I used to spend ages building static sites but now I use WP for just about everything. Google loves it
    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    Wordpress for me ... much easier to flip a Wordpress site in my opinion. Much easier getting ranking in the big G also ... at least for me.
    Originally Posted by MrDay View Post

    Wordpress. Why?.... search engines love them (with good content & SEO) of course.
    This seems to be a statement that is repeated constantly, yet the results show different.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ults-here.html
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    • Profile picture of the author johnzena
      Wordpress has more functionality but I noticed when I made two sites for my amsoil business even though wp had a higher pagespeed score the website made from xsitepro loaded a lot faster. The score for the wordpress site was 95 and the xsitepro site was only 65. Yet when I clicked on both pages the xsitepro site loaded virtually instantaneously. I modified all the images on the xsitepro site and now it has a pagespeed score of 99. Some of the pages are even at 100. The best I got out of my wp site was 97.

      If it's a blog use wp but if it is a store selling products use xsitepro because your customers will love the speed at which the pages load regardless of their pagespeed score.
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      • Profile picture of the author benf
        I modified all the images on the xsitepro site and now it has a pagespeed score of 99. Some of the pages are even at 100. The best I got out of my wp site was 97.
        The reason for this is that WordPress relies on a database to create the web pages.
        So the process is:
        web browser > web server > php > database > php ( creating html page ) > server > web browser.

        A flat html page does:
        web browser > webserver ( which just reads the pre-created html file) > web browser.

        This has been simplified, but you can see that there are far fewer steps, to the results are faster!

        For help on optimizing images for faster page loads ( in XSP, WP, or any other web page creator), I have added a knowledgebase article here:
        My site is slow at loading
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        • Profile picture of the author disenchanted
          About half in XSP.

          About a quarter in WP.

          The rest in HTML.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArielT
    I like wordpress but in the case of making an static html site, I'll use the notepad++ instead of xsitepro, the reason is to learn
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Folks - This thread is from 2009!
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  • Profile picture of the author AlfredKo
    I like Xsitepro because static websites load so much faster.
    But I am converting 1 of them to Wordpress because I can do more things with WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryPabelate
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    I have created around 8 websites on Wordpress the reason, it is high SE optimized and it is dynamic, can be used for multiple purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author rizanirama
    It's easier for me to make a site using Wordpress. I like the flexibility, it's easy to customize and also multi-purpose . And there are many themes and plugins out there that will make our website more powerful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Rhodes
    I use WordPress or other Content Management Systems. It is quite easy to update and I find it easier to create than static webpages.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    I use Wordpress. I can make a site look like a million bucks with a paid template download and some handy plugins.

    Blogs, review sites, hell even sites with functionality like Digg (the old one) can be created with Wordpress and the appropriate theme/plugin structure.

    I love Wordpress and the opportunities it's afforded me to get my ideas out there and start making money.

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  • Profile picture of the author glacey
    Have to give a thumbs up for Xsite pro. As was said in a previous post its easy to use especially when you have multiple sites on the go.
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  • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
    Wordpress take 2 mins to install, and the possibilities are endless.

    Any more questions ? :]
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGood
    I am definitely a XSitePro guy. Again from reading the other posts this may be swimming against popular opinion, but I have staked my conviction on testing, testing and more testing!

    There are many here that are saying that Google loves WordPress but are not giving any backup to that statement. What I suggest is that you start using Google to search for different subjects and you will see that flat HTML sites are kicking the butt off the WordPress sites.

    I love XSitePro. This is because it is quick easy, solid, and you do not have to add it this option and that option. Is all there from the start.But the best part is that I can coose a subject and be 90% sure that I will get in the top 5 ranking no sweat! Ok, I do choose subjects where WordPress blogs show in the results because this is like shooting fish in a barrel

    If you haven't tried XSitePro I highly recommend that you do, and test the results. They have a 30 day money back guaranteed, so there is no risk!
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  • Profile picture of the author zamzung
    I'm building all my websites on Wordpress platform... I find it the most easiest to use...
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    I totally use WordPress. I use to use an HTML editor, but have switched over to WordPress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetex Marketing
    Have to go with WordPress on this one. I realize its already been talked to death, but WordPress really is one of the best. The plethora of plugins, the fact search engines are pulled to it like flies to ****. It really easy to churn out something profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author SHAB1412
    Another vote for wordpress. WordPress is the Best. You can do anything with your website, using some nice plugins and a cool theme. and the best part is, sometimes you don't even have to spend a penny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    Use wordpress...

    too easy to do almost anything with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Converting Copy
    Between the helpful SEO and non SEO plugins and the ease at which you can build your site, add new content/posts/images/videos/etc., I think Wordpress comes out on top. Google likes WordPress because they like simplicity/freshly updated content. I wouldn't be surprised if they give a site a tiny bump just by virtue of it being a Wordpress site. BUT that's just speculating of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    about 1/10th in WP, the others still hardcoded html dreamweaver.

    -k
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  • Profile picture of the author FreshMedia
    I use Drupal for all my sites, and thank goodness I do. One of my authority sites is growing and I find myself adding new features all the time. Imagine what pain it would be adding a blog, forum etc.. to a static site that has grown beyond your expectations.
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  • Profile picture of the author rakaff
    I am using both, still cant decide which one is better.
    XSitePro seems to be easier to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGood
    What draws me back to XSitePro time and time again is that it is a create and forget website builder. On of the main techniques I use for upping the rage rank of my main sites is to create many very focused sites ( but still with quality content in them) and have links to my main site.

    With XSitePro ( and I guess other HTML application) you can create these mini-sites and forget about them. Also as you do not care about fancy URL's or that the host add their own advertising to the web page ( using your own Google account for adwords gives the game away) you can add these mini-sites to free hosts and leave then there. Inbound link love for $zero!
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  • Profile picture of the author Pole
    Like the majority of the members in this thread, I use Wordpress. It's much easier to create, and ranks well on Google. That's all we can ask for!
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  • Profile picture of the author ArielT
    Well, I like wordpress (because the easy), but also, I'm learnig HTML5 and CSS, but I'll use the notepad++, neither the XSitePro nor Dreamveaver, the reason, better to know what you are doing
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