WordPress vs. Drupal: Which do you prefer?

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A client wants to create a website using Drupal instead of WordPress. This will be a small-medium size site for a non-profit organization.

I've created about 20 websites using WordPress and am trying to encourage him to use WordPress instead because I think it will be easier for me and others in the organization to add content and update the site if he uses WordPress. He's never created a site with Drupal or WordPress but seems to think Drupal is best, whereas from what I've read it seems like Drupal is a bear to learn and too powerful for our needs.

I'm biased toward WordPress but want to have an open mind. In your opinion which is best for creating a basic site?
#drupal #prefer #wordpress
  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Hi Anita

    If his requirements can be satisfied with WordPress and he just needs a basic site then I would agree with you and use WordPress.

    Drupal is an excellent CMS and has management and security advantages over WordPress. But it does have a steeper learning curve, and is probably an overkill for his site.

    If his intention is to build a portal to use as a tool for his employees or an online community then perhaps you should consider a more advanced CMS like Drupal or Joomla. But otherwise go with WordPress - you're familiar with it and he will find it much easier to use.

    Bill
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    • Profile picture of the author vrchards
      I've personally worked with drupal and joomla, but not much at all with wordpress. In my personal opinion, drupal is by far more flexible than is joomla; however, joomla has many built-in features that makes it much easier for people to use.

      Power/Flexibility v. Content Management Useability
      If you are an experienced developer and will be leading the charge on content updates and the like in addition to programming very specific social networking modules, go with drupal.

      If you have a client that is not very internet savvy and will be doing a majority of their content management once the site is up, go with Joomla. Joomla has a much better user interface for those that aren't very well versed in internet lingo. My clients tend to catch onto Joomla's Categories and Sections faster than they do Drupals Content Types and Taxonomy.

      Upgrading:
      Joomla is by far superior to Drupal in this category. I'm still waiting for Drupal to include some form of a module that will automatically update the core files for you without having to manually upload and install patches/updates. Joomla has this.

      Theming:
      I've found that theming a page is much easier for Drupal. They have a very intuitive theming system that allows you to easily control all aspects of the design with some clean css. Joomla, in my past experiences, causes the designer to create a lot of work arounds and/or hacks to get pages looking similar across browser types. This experience with Joomla was with a previous version, and I think they may have recently cleaned up the core theme code considerably to make it xhtml complaint. I personally do not have any experience with Joomla as of the last few months.

      Conclusion:
      I lean towards Drupal because my designer prefers it. I like the content management structure for myself, but find that clients have a difficult time leaning the system.

      If I have a client that really wants to get their hands dirty with content updates and they're not necessarily very web-savvy, I'll suggest Joomla.

      Hope this info helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author legithomebiz
      Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post

      Hi Anita

      If his requirements can be satisfied with WordPress and he just needs a basic site then I would agree with you and use WordPress.

      Drupal is an excellent CMS and has management and security advantages over WordPress. But it does have a steeper learning curve, and is probably an overkill for his site.

      If his intention is to build a portal to use as a tool for his employees or an online community then perhaps you should consider a more advanced CMS like Drupal or Joomla. But otherwise go with WordPress - you're familiar with it and he will find it much easier to use.

      Bill
      I agree...
      Simple and Basic Website = wordpress
      Complex and Online Community or related sites = drupal

      but my guess is, your client needs something or a feature from drupal that he/she wants to take advantage with, then use drupal
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      • Profile picture of the author iqbal
        Originally Posted by legithomebiz View Post

        I agree...
        Simple and Basic Website = wordpress
        Complex and Online Community or related sites = drupal

        but my guess is, your client needs something or a feature from drupal that he/she wants to take advantage with, then use drupal
        I agee too
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I love Drupal but it is tough to learn. If you know
    Wordpress you can graduate to Drupal as a user...
    but if your client is clueless Drupal will seem very
    complicated to him.

    You can set up Drupal so it is idiot proof, basically.
    You can rename just about everything and set
    permissions so your client only has limited options
    and can't mess anything up badly. Drupal is cool
    that way.

    I use Wordpress too. It's easy to learn but it doesn't
    have the flexibility Drupal has. You can create really
    complex designs with Drupal pretty quick using
    a theme like Acquia Marina combined with Chaos
    Tools and Mini-Panels.
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  • Drupal makes more sense to me for a medium sized site. Let's remember that Wordpress is still a blogging platform. Go Drupal!
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  • Profile picture of the author jminkler
    Right tool for the right job. Also you have to think about the future. Small organizations best wya to go is Drupal or Joomla. Personally I would say Joomla. There is just more support out there for it, and more plugins/modules.

    Wordpress is not a full blown CMS, and it you try to make it one you'll fail eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author smilez360
    I have absolutely agree wordpress is for simplier websites, so use wordpress. I am using drupal, I remember that when I started using drupal it was terrible, I didn't know what to do and it took some time for fully understand and control it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    Hey Anita - good to see you here!

    From my experience with content management systems over the years I'd agree with your thoughts completely. I use wordpress for just about everything these days, and find both joomla and drupal to be overkill for smaller sites and a challenge to learn to work with.

    I don't know what's available as far as templates and getting help for joomla and drupal sites, but there is no shortage of great templates and all kinds of tutorials and helpful resources for word press around.

    Cheers,

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    Honestly, if they are doing any sort of fundraising at all, I would go with their choice of Drupal.

    I actually use Joomla more than Drupal, but with Drupal you can set access control levels for different groups. Also, there is an amazing fundraising tool called civiCRM that will allow them to track all their contributors, donors and run fundraising efforts.

    CiviCRM runs on both Joomla and Drupal as well as a standalone version, but it was originally designed for Drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author hwijaya
    I'd prefer Drupal for medium to large site and Wordpress for blogging. But since Wordpress 3.0, it's starting to look more like Drupal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anita Ashland
      The client ended up going with Expression Engine instead of Drupal or WordPress. Expression Engine doesn't have the learning curve that Drupal does so that's a relief. Thanks, everyone, for your input.
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      • Profile picture of the author sim4
        Originally Posted by Anita Ashland View Post

        The client ended up going with Expression Engine instead of Drupal or WordPress. Expression Engine doesn't have the learning curve that Drupal does so that's a relief. Thanks, everyone, for your input.
        That is better although WP would had been.
        In business customer is king.
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  • Profile picture of the author lucidica
    Never used wordpress but have heard many people moan about it, so I'll go for Drupal
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    • Profile picture of the author SEO_BOS
      Hi,

      Another vote for Joomla. Most of my clients are not too tech savvy but get the hang of using Joomla fairly quickly after a brief tutorial. Version 1.5 is really taking off with lots of improvements and some great plugins

      Running Joomla special - could get you up and running fast and cheap.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Adams
    With the number of plugins available with wordpress, you can do anything. I have had to tell my clients at times, don't worry about what I use and just tell me what you want.

    99.9% of the time they don't know the difference. If they really knew the difference, they would be savvy enough to build it themselves. The reason they hire a web designer is because they don't know. Chances are they heard or read somewhere that one is better than another and their set on using it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Philip Ruben
      Originally Posted by Mike Adams View Post

      With the number of plugins available with wordpress, you can do anything. I have had to tell my clients at times, don't worry about what I use and just tell me what you want.

      99.9% of the time they don't know the difference. If they really knew the difference, they would be savvy enough to build it themselves. The reason they hire a web designer is because they don't know. Chances are they heard or read somewhere that one is better than another and their set on using it.
      Exactly what I was thinking. Wordpress has been able to do pretty much everything that I need it to do for the sites that I create.
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  • Profile picture of the author kittyd
    very glad to see so many hands raised for joomla here I love joomla. Drupal is good to give to clients with an "idiot proof account..." is just that from my experience, clients end up wanting THE ADMIN acount... and then.... the tragedy begins...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamian
    Originally Posted by Anita Ashland View Post

    A client wants to create a website using Drupal instead of WordPress. This will be a small-medium size site for a non-profit organization.

    I've created about 20 websites using WordPress and am trying to encourage him to use WordPress instead because I think it will be easier for me and others in the organization to add content and update the site if he uses WordPress. He's never created a site with Drupal or WordPress but seems to think Drupal is best, whereas from what I've read it seems like Drupal is a bear to learn and too powerful for our needs.

    I'm biased toward WordPress but want to have an open mind. In your opinion which is best for creating a basic site?
    I prefer to use wordpress, because it is easy to use and has many unique plugins that has many functions, and great themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author dan208
    I like Wordpress better, but it is what I am familiar with. If you want a website and not a blog, and don't have the skills to change Wordpress API/themes, you should go with Drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Danh
    Wordpress hands down! Millions of themes, plugins, mods.. I mean what more do you want lol
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  • For simplicity and ease of use - Wordpress. Cons? Security is likely to be an issue.
    For accessibility by all of his office team and greater functionality - Drupal. Cons? Pretty steep learning curve.
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie_White
    I would prefer to go with wordpress because its easy to customize layout and lots of plugins available for wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonylatona
    My Vote is definitely for Wordpress. There are TONS of free themes on Smashing Magazine's website and it's a really excellent system to work with. Between it's ease of use and the availability of plugins WP is always my go-to for a CMS.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    I prefer wordpress..
    it is the easiest way to build a website
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  • Profile picture of the author BryanComm
    Hey Anita,
    I do not consider myself sufficiently qualified specialist in the field of CMS, to critically assess the value of any content management system, though tried almost everything available, but ...
    Both these systems are quite flexible in configuration, have a development database plug-ins and templates that are easy to change in code and design is well optimized for search engines, have a good quality multi-lingual.Both Drupal and WordPress are a perfect choice.
    WordPress is quick to install and it is convenient to operate. CMS WordPress is simple. The main organization of information is a chronological display type, although WordPress is well implemented headings and labels. Ideal for your blog.

    For greater flexibility and capabilities, Drupal is the best choice. It is easier to organize an extensive chronology of the content, just endless possibilities for sorting and categorizing information. It is also easier to manage if you require more complex functions such as access control, a wide range of types and formats. Is best suited for social projects, where you need to manage different types of information.

    PS: If you are planning to conduct a personal or group blog, and there is no need to integrate with the rest of the site, choose WordPress, in other cases it is better Drupal.
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    • Profile picture of the author vahn
      I still prefer wordpress. wordpress is very easy to customized and have the most complete plug in than other platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author izapharry
    Hello Anita,

    I want you to prefer WordPress bcz u can handle it better then Drupal.
    According to your experience.

    Originally Posted by Anita Ashland View Post

    A client wants to create a website using Drupal instead of WordPress. This will be a small-medium size site for a non-profit organization.

    I've created about 20 websites using WordPress and am trying to encourage him to use WordPress instead because I think it will be easier for me and others in the organization to add content and update the site if he uses WordPress. He's never created a site with Drupal or WordPress but seems to think Drupal is best, whereas from what I've read it seems like Drupal is a bear to learn and too powerful for our needs.

    I'm biased toward WordPress but want to have an open mind. In your opinion which is best for creating a basic site?
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  • Profile picture of the author weengle
    Hello Anita I am very comfortable with both CMS, WordPress as well as Drupal and Both CMS are robust and very Powerful. If your client's requirement is a small or medium type of website then I will suggest to go for WordPress In stead of Drupal because both CMS used for different purpose, though both are content management system but for small type of website we should use WordPress as Its very user friendly and very flexible too where as Drupal Is for Advance users and its not much user friendly and you will not easily get all types of modules for Drupal and Upgrading your Drupal to a newer version is also very painful, one minor mistake makes your site paralyze but In case of wordpress you will get many free Plugins and you can easily upgrade your wodpress to a newer versions using any Plugin.

    Wordpress will consume less web space and Bandwidth where as Drupal will Consume More Web Space and Bandwidth. So Anita just do one thing forward my this reply to your client if he is a smart person then he can guess what cms is good to use for his website.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Natashka
    Hello,

    I have worked with both systems and would suggest to stay with Wordpress if the site permits it. Drupal is way to complicated and mighty for an average sized website, the theme probably won't look that good and working with the backend is not that nice.

    I hope I could help you.
    Natashka
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  • Profile picture of the author thelinkster
    Drupal does not have half of the plugings that wordpress has.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiemNguyen
    Yeap! Wordpress is the answer...very easy to use and has ton of themes & plugin!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
    No way... go drupal. Its way easier than everyone makes it out to be. It's far more flexible than wordpress without being all hackish.

    For business sites, I always recommend drupal because biz owners are always looking to expand and do something new. Drupal handles that with ease. You can do it w/ wordpress, but the pluggins start to get hacky and just are poorer quality.

    Drupal may have less "pluggins" but they are higher quality, more secure, and more flexible. So for drupal less pluggins = Do more.
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  • Profile picture of the author 24 by 7
    Drupal was better than Wordpress, if you were using it in 2006 - 2008, i guess google started hating them, so the website' rankings started going down. I like both.
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
      Originally Posted by 24 by 7 View Post

      Drupal was better than Wordpress, if you were using it in 2006 - 2008, i guess google started hating them, so the website' rankings started going down. I like both.
      WHAAT? This is just crazy talk and really makes no sense. Google doesn't hate one platform over the other, total non-sense. Drupal is easy to seo, is open source YET has BIG BIG commercial backers (Who is Using Drupal? | US&V and Drupal - Content Management System | Acquia ). Wordpress is great, but you will feel limited soon after using it, especially for business.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by 24 by 7 View Post

      Drupal was better than Wordpress, if you were using it in 2006 - 2008, i guess google started hating them, so the website' rankings started going down. I like both.
      That is crazy talk indeed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        That is crazy talk indeed.
        Ha... finally someone whose got my back
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  • Profile picture of the author cswjohnni
    I prefer Wordpress because it's easier to use than Drupal, which is a CMS similar to Joomla. In my first days, I used both Drupal and Joomla to create my websites, but I settle down with Joomla because they have more resources and info on the internet that I could search for. But Drupal is also a very good CMS. For general websites, such as blog or simple membership site, I'd suggest to use Wordpress, but if you need more complicated layout or designs, Joolma or Drupal are both a good choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author rife
    Wordpress is the better choice if you are planning to do something simple. It takes a LOT of work to coax WP into being a successful content management system for anything complicated. WP can also be a resource hog if customised badly.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmbinfo
    Drupal, imho, is very user-unfriendly.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by jmbinfo View Post

      Drupal, imho, is very user-unfriendly.
      If you're a programmer, it makes sense and rapidly becomes usable because you perceive the underlying rules and patterns of "the Drupal way."

      If you're not a programmer, then God help you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
      Originally Posted by jmbinfo View Post

      Drupal, imho, is very user-unfriendly.
      Originally Posted by olapeju View Post

      I go for wordpress. Drupal is complicated
      I would love to get everyones drupal questions are: http://www.warriorforum.com/programm...-answered.html

      If things are confusing, I wanna hear it... maybe I can help.
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  • Profile picture of the author brayanaustin
    If you are an experienced developer and will be leading the charge for updates of content and programming and social networking modules very specific, go with Drupal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
      Originally Posted by brayanaustin View Post

      If you are an experienced developer and will be leading the charge for updates of content and programming and social networking modules very specific, go with Drupal.
      This seems kinda weird to me... I am a poor programmer (very poor). I hire it all out. But I can do crazy things without knowing any programming w/ drupal. So I would say you dont have to be an "experience developer" to use drupal.
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      ooops double post... delete this please mods.
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  • Profile picture of the author markphil
    Originally Posted by Anita Ashland View Post

    A client wants to create a website using Drupal instead of WordPress. This will be a small-medium size site for a non-profit organization.

    I've created about 20 websites using WordPress and am trying to encourage him to use WordPress instead because I think it will be easier for me and others in the organization to add content and update the site if he uses WordPress. He's never created a site with Drupal or WordPress but seems to think Drupal is best, whereas from what I've read it seems like Drupal is a bear to learn and too powerful for our needs.

    I'm biased toward WordPress but want to have an open mind. In your opinion which is best for creating a basic site?
    I have tried wordpress and it is kinda good and easy.. I havent tried drupal so i think wordpress will do for me although i also want to learn drupa..
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  • Profile picture of the author belfend
    i love Wp more user friendly and easy to learn

    but druppal is amazing like joomla but u must have more skil and time to learn it
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Adams
    Ive had the same problems at times. I ask my clients, what exactly do yo want? They will tell you product pages, contact forms, etc... They don't know the difference, if they did they would be building the site themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author mahesh2010
      I think Word press is best because in word press presents in lot of free themes and it really excellent content management system to use and also easy to use these availability of plug-in
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  • Profile picture of the author olapeju
    I go for wordpress. Drupal is complicated
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  • Profile picture of the author Syntheticore
    I'm a wordpress gal all the way. I've recently started working with Drupal (sort of against my will actually!) and it just confirmed my love for Wordpress.

    Though honestly, you can make an amazing site with either system... it's just about what you're more comfortable with in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author hendricius
    Wordpress without any doubt, i've been using it for 3 years now and it hasnt given me any trouble till now. And the installation of drupal is complicated when compared to wordpress, so i'd recommend wp.
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    • Profile picture of the author DKristine
      I actually started out with Drupal - I googled wordpress vs drupal and felt compelled to join this board and add my 2 cents...

      I love Drupal. It took me a while to learn and become very proficient with it. Aside from the VERY occasional template override or form alter, I really didn't touch PHP. I work in a large Web Development firm, and have built sites for everything university subsites to bed and breakfast sites in Drupal.

      We are now branching into wordpress for our "lower budget" <5k clients, and I have not been able to build even the simplest site without pretty much developing custom themes every time. It seems everything needs to be done in the template files - I even had to write a script to dynamically overlay a transparent png over thumbnail images. Sure, you've got custom fields and post types, but you need to first define them, define your meta boxes, define your fields, and then write out how you want to display your fields in a custom template file for each post type. Drupal, you've got CCK and Views, and boom! You're done.

      It is not that I lack the technical expertise to write my own PHP, it just seems to tedious and counter intuitive for a supposedly simple platform.

      Am I missing something here? I honestly find WordPress to be one of the most challenging platforms I have ever had to work with and, aside from installs and upgrades, I work twice as fast in Drupal.

      I am a newbie to WP, so I am genuinely curious... what am I missing here? To me the answer, if it is up to me, will always be Drupal.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by DKristine View Post

        I am a newbie to WP, so I am genuinely curious... what am I missing here? To me the answer, if it is up to me, will always be Drupal.
        No you just need to understand what forum you are on. Most people will find Wordpress tops for putting up content as fast as they can. They are not attempting to do anything beyond that with their site. Businesses have a number of needs that wordpress just can't accomodate. Wordpress now has some content type functions but like you noticed it isn't built into the worpdress system backend. You have to go into code and then the backend will recognize it.

        Actually I would give Joomla a spin for mid to small businesses. Corporations/ high traffic sites I'd defintiely go Drupal.
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      • Profile picture of the author hidden pearl
        both of these programs are useful but it depends on the nature of usage you have, however personally i prefer drupal because of its exclusive features and friendly usage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aare
    I second the wordpress!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author williamkmohr
    word press is best i am using it for more than 5 years and with WP you can easily drive traffic and customizable. gets faster install than drupal
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by williamkmohr View Post

      gets faster install than drupal
      Huh?

      INSTALLING WORDPRESS
      =================
      1) Download and unzip Wordpress
      2) Create Database
      3) Rename the wp-config-sample.php file to wp-config.php
      4) Edit the configuration File
      5) Run the installation script

      INSTALLING DRUPAL
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      1) Download and uncompress Drupal
      2) Create Database
      3) Copy the default.settings.php to settings.php
      4) Make the settings file writeable
      5) Run the installation script
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  • Profile picture of the author Atex
    I personally use WP as a novice and I'm happy with it. I've taken some good instruction on setting it up with several good plug ins. However, I have heard nothing but good about Drupal. Between the two, I think sticking to WP is the best only because it is probably easier to learn and will suffice for most jobs.
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  • Profile picture of the author iDevesh
    WordPress is the best blogging platform compare to joomla or drupal.

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  • Profile picture of the author vivifoster
    I thought it was wordpress against joomla? Wordpress!
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  • Profile picture of the author kohashi
    You can teach people to use just about anything. I prefer Drupal because of the power, but I come from a programming background. I do know from experience though that non-tech people can use it and embrace it. You just need to train them properly
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  • Profile picture of the author Softweb
    As per my opinion wordpress is good..

    Its simple to use - No need for modifications, Excellent for blogging or sharing thoughts in a sequential manner, Even the most elderly of users can get the hang of it quickly..
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  • Profile picture of the author mephious
    Being a total newbie at web design wordpress is a dream for me. Plugins, themes, everything needed to get a site up and running easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author j-spratt
    wordpress.org by far the best best themes most used easy to use lot of good plugins for, just my opinion. have many for years.
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    Still Wordpress for now.. so friendly-user, and powerful I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author e-service
    I think that using which script depent your option. WP is easy to use for every one, Drupal need config and much more time to control , but Drupal is the best open source
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  • Profile picture of the author jamespitt
    They are very different tools for different sites.

    Drupal is for really big sites, although you can you it for little sites the end-user does have to spend some time learning how to do things.

    I've done quite a bit of work putting some interesting sites together using Drupal to produce facebook apps which are pretty easy to use & very powerful.

    BTW - if you are using Drupal, make sure you do the following:
    1. Download Drush - this is a great command line tool
    2. Take a look at pressflow / varnish for (really) big sites
    3. Make sure you can use Phing ( Phing ) to roll out sites.
    4. And SVN, of course
    5. And simpletest

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  • Profile picture of the author yellowww
    It depends on a project but I really love WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author luminousnerd
    I have been considering looking into Drupal myself lately. I hear a lot of buzz about it. The main reason I haven't is because I am familiar with WordPress, and it works so well for just about every project I've run into so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author lithium
    About a year or so ago, I decided I would learn how to use CMSs. So i did a fair bit of research, got down to the big 3, Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress, and tried them all out.

    Wordpress was the easiest to figure out by a looooooong way! I have never looked back and have never used Joomla or Drupal since.

    I know lots of Drupal lovers go on about the flexibility for developers, but really...how much more do you need to do than what you can do in Wordpress?
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
      Originally Posted by lithium View Post

      I know lots of Drupal lovers go on about the flexibility for developers, but really...how much more do you need to do than what you can do in Wordpress?
      uhh, how about multiple content types with a super easy ability to add additional fields (cck). Or maybe a super easy way lists of different content (views). Or a way easy way to restructure a page and create easy landing pages (panels). Or a simple ecommerce solution (ubercart)...

      I can go on and on.
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      • Profile picture of the author lithium
        Originally Posted by icevapor View Post

        uhh, how about multiple content types with a super easy ability to add additional fields (cck). Or maybe a super easy way lists of different content (views). Or a way easy way to restructure a page and create easy landing pages (panels). Or a simple ecommerce solution (ubercart)...

        I can go on and on.
        Sure, drupal is much more developer friendly. But do I need all that? No. Do most people need all that? No.

        I like WordPress because it is simple for me and my clients.
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        • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
          Originally Posted by lithium View Post

          Sure, drupal is much more developer friendly. But do I need all that? No. Do most people need all that? No.

          I like WordPress because it is simple for me and my clients.
          I think we need to define "developer". Most of the above Items I mentioned (css, views, panels) I use and probably need on every site I build. They require zero coding to use and anyone that can use microsoft word can use them. They are "developer" tools in that they help you add functionality to your site. But they aren't really "developer" tools in the way most people here think (that you need to be a coder to use them). They are easy to use for someone that doesn't even know any html.
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          • Profile picture of the author lithium
            Originally Posted by icevapor View Post

            I think we need to define "developer". Most of the above Items I mentioned (css, views, panels) I use and probably need on every site I build. They require zero coding to use and anyone that can use microsoft word can use them. They are "developer" tools in that they help you add functionality to your site. But they aren't really "developer" tools in the way most people here think (that you need to be a coder to use them). They are easy to use for someone that doesn't even know any html.
            Yes, fair enough...And I guess it always depends a great deal on your website needs.

            I guess this Wordpress vs Drupal (or vs Joomla) argument is a bit like the toilet seat up or down...Some like it up, some like it down and you will rarely be able to convince them otherwise

            But for the record, I prefer wordpress...
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  • Profile picture of the author WebsiteManagers
    All our clients use WordPress because it is easiest for them to use. Sure there are thousands of plugins for it, but sometimes special coding needs to be done to the theme and/or core files to get exactly what they want. I have not tried doing that in Joomla or Drupal, but have heard that custom coding is easier in those.
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  • Profile picture of the author danieltwooduk
    I'm in love with Wordpress. I mean, it's a real whirlwind romance that's lasted two years :-D
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  • Profile picture of the author RRigamonti
    i think you can bring him on your way letting him to see how many sites are done with WP in the Internet and how many are done with Drupal. At least one reason there is if WP is so wide used!

    Education lots of times is the biggest problem in our costumers....
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley G
    Lot of good posts here but sadly some misinformation

    First WordPress is no more or less secure than any other platform

    Second, WordPress is a full on CMS with blogging capabilities. It is not just a blog. In fact in the last 24 months I hae built only one blog, but I have built dozens of CMS sites. All using WordPress.

    You can do everything and anything you want with WordPress, you just have to know how, as with Drupal.

    The most important thing of all though: WordPress is dead easy to use, if your client is a beginner, wordpess is much better.
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  • Profile picture of the author bloggerboys
    i recommended wp...because..it's easy to use..
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin B
    Wordpress without a doubt.

    As a PHP programmer, it is so much easier & flexible for me to edit and add customized stuff.

    Especially now with version 3
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  • Profile picture of the author RRigamonti
    in a word: WORDpress :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Creativologist
    I actually use both Wordpress and Drupal for different projects. Like 'em both, but prefer the flexibility of Wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpace32
    Wordpress is easier to use, maintain, upgrade, etc.

    Drupal is more powerful.

    In the end, it all depends on the client's needs. Personally, I tend to lean towards Wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
    I just ran in to this article... its interesting: SonSpring | Why Drupal?

    I think it may be some help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kysersoze
    Wordpress is best for newbies by far and away. Not much of a learning curve, tons of resources online with plugins, themes and information for wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gordelo
    I am agree with hendricius. I am also working in wordpress from 3 years.
    It is easily manageable and more flexible
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  • Profile picture of the author antiquenh
    Wordpress because it is easy to navigate such as updating files than drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author MGL
    I've recently worked with Expression E. and it reminds me of WP
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  • Profile picture of the author findall
    i prefer the word press because it is very easy to make a website with all most all features
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  • Profile picture of the author samualdany
    As Drupal and WordPress are really powerful tools, with both these CMS I am really comfortable. WordPress and Drupal are for small and big websites, respectively..
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  • Profile picture of the author David Neale
    For a basic site I would agree with you. Wordpress would probably work out better for them.

    We have built many sites that never use the blogging component just pages.

    Originally Posted by Anita Ashland View Post

    A client wants to create a website using Drupal instead of WordPress. This will be a small-medium size site for a non-profit organization.

    I've created about 20 websites using WordPress and am trying to encourage him to use WordPress instead because I think it will be easier for me and others in the organization to add content and update the site if he uses WordPress. He's never created a site with Drupal or WordPress but seems to think Drupal is best, whereas from what I've read it seems like Drupal is a bear to learn and too powerful for our needs.

    I'm biased toward WordPress but want to have an open mind. In your opinion which is best for creating a basic site?
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  • Profile picture of the author seoroot
    my vote for Wordpress . very user friendly interface, easy to configure, lot of plugins, wide rang of books , themes also seo friendly than joomla . Wordpress is a Blog Type CMS ,Drupal is a true CMS
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
    I just recently built a site for a political campaign in drupal. The girl they have managing/updating the site also manages several other political sites. After having used my drupal site, she has talked her other companies into converting over to drupal.

    Why? Because DRUPAL IS EASY TO USE. I have setup a couple of views in panels with a couple different content types.
    - The content posts to places she knows where they are going (upper left of frontpage, lower left frontpage, "featured box", etc...).
    - She doesn't have to "fake" it with categories and tweak lists of content in the wordpress theme files (loops). Its all easily editable in the UI.
    - The wysiwyg editor acts like it should instead of freaking out like the wordpress one always does (you know what I'm talking about).
    - Its easy to add content to region (just like wordpress)

    Drupal has all the advantages of wordpress plus a million more. Biz sites should use drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdollarz
    Wordpress for basic content sites.. Drupal for more advanced social networking features.
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  • Profile picture of the author ernestcobb26
    Wordpress is the accurate tool for your job. In case you have a little firm, then Drupla can be suitable for the right job.
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  • Profile picture of the author XavierColas85
    I prefer wordpress CMS over Durpal and Joomla as wordpress has a wide range of themes and its designs are also quite SEO friendly.
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    • Profile picture of the author XavierColas85
      Wordpress CMS is much easy to use and there is more variety of designs and themes in wordpress than Drupal, it also offers more flexibility
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  • Profile picture of the author y2gabs
    Wordpress, hands down. I don't like the drupal web design templates. They're just too templatey... the wordpress community is far more creative and extensive!
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hatter
    Great info. Interested in learning how to build a website and definately going Wordpress...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley G
    WordPress can handle simple and complex sites. It's down to how familiar you are with its API and or what plugins you want to use.

    For an example of what a powerful WordPress theme can be like just take a look at my Warrior Special offer (I would post it here but don't know if thats allowed)
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  • Profile picture of the author RegalWeb
    If it's just a simple site that can be done by Wordpress, it is strongly recommened to choose WP. Drupal is way too powerful for medium-level sites. Drupal is tailored for "super-sites" and for monetization purposes. using Drupal for an entry-level sites would just bring disaster. Suit the CMS on the nature of the site. Never ever go overboard.
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  • Profile picture of the author calhounevans
    I think Wordpress is the right tool for your work. If you have a small company, so Drupla may be necessary for the right job.
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  • Profile picture of the author disolmodo78
    I would suggest you to go with Wordpress. I am saying this by my first hand experience. Drupal is good if you have small establishment.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaxspotmedia
    @vrchards

    your post inspired me to use up my spare time to learn Drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrosymodarsan
    I suggest you go with Wordpress. I say this from my firsthand experience. Drupal is good if you have a small establishment. Life is very good too, but only for Mac users.
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  • Profile picture of the author stewardrobinson
    Drupal is more logical to me a medium sized site. Remember that Wordpress is still a blogging platform. Go Drupal!
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  • Profile picture of the author thresanresee45
    I don't know what available as far as temptation and getting help for joomla and drupal site, but there is no short of great temporary and all kinds of tutorials and help resources for discussion press around.
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  • Profile picture of the author ramona_livegood
    Hi Anita,

    I recently created beginlearningdrupal.com to help new business owners create their own content management website using drupal. If you are interested, check out the site.
    Wordpress is a great blogging platform, but I love drupal due to the scalability, my own site ramonaworks.com is built on the Drupal cms. (btw, beginlearningdrupal.com its like the fast track, without needing to know any coding, and its possible to learn in about an hour)

    Hope that helps.

    Kind regards,
    Ramona.
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  • Profile picture of the author beginner warrior
    It depends on the must-have features for the site. If Wordpress has all the important features the client will need, then it's much better to have a platform that the team knows well.
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    • Profile picture of the author blur
      ExpressionEngine is a very good choice.

      The question of Drupal vs Wordpress is apple to oranges as they are designed to do different things.

      Whitehouse.org is powered by Drupal...fyi

      I am a drupal fan and can't wait till Drupal 7 goes 'gold'
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  • Profile picture of the author davidtakson
    Drupal makes more sense for me a medium-sized site. Remember that WordPress is still blogging platform. Go Drupal!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashley G
      Originally Posted by davidtakson View Post

      Drupal makes more sense for me a medium-sized site. Remember that WordPress is still blogging platform. Go Drupal!
      Nothing could be more wrong. WordPress is a Content Management System. It just so happens that it started out as and has become popular for use as a blog.

      In the last 2 years less than 5% of the WordPress sites I have built have been blogs. 100% of the sites I have built have been WordPress. I have built everything from brochure websites to ecommerce websites to web applications to 1000 page market research platforms... all on WordPress.

      Anyone who says WordPress isn't robust enough simply doesn't know how to use WordPress.

      Now Drupal is a good platform and I am not knocking it, but if you want something easy to use yet still powerful WordPress just cannot be beat.
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  • Profile picture of the author chenda0331
    Everyone's views are different, so opinions are not the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author mintdesignnz
    Wordpress is great because of its simplicity and seo-ready design.
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  • Profile picture of the author drupal4u
    Hello ,

    WP is just a blogging tool. But Drupal has almost everything.WP is just about 10% of Drupal. We can't even compare WP with Drupal. Drupal has huge amount of modules and, its modular structure , with perfect coder we can do almost anything with drupal in Web

    Thanks, Raja
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  • Profile picture of the author nsdoi
    Hello...........

    I personally prefer wordpress because i think Drupal is complicated.
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  • Profile picture of the author alfredmanor12
    Drupal makes more sense for me a medium-sized site. Remember that WordPress is still blogging platform. Go Drupal!
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    I am still in favor of using Wordpress. It is really very nice.
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  • Profile picture of the author carry12
    Hello Friends.........

    Wordpress CMS is an application to build blog with various selections of themes.Wordpress is easy to install and to use.Everybody can do it.Moreover it is very easy to administer the site.

    Drupal which is great for blogs.It is easy to install.

    The speed is very efficient and the size of download is 728 kb.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author drewellis082
    If you are an received programer and will be contributing the charge on subject matter updates and the like in gain to scheduling very specific social networking faculties, go with drupal.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeachCoding
    I would vote using Wordpress due to the high amount of themes & plugins available and the ease of customization wordpress code provides.
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  • Profile picture of the author f4mu5
    drupal, kind of hard to pick up at first. but some you get it down. you wouldn't want to work with any other design
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  • Profile picture of the author logowarriors
    Wordpress is the best option for creating a simple and basic website. I m also using and it is very easy to edit.
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  • Profile picture of the author puedall
    WordPress is very easy to use. I guess everyone thinks, platform that they now how to use is easy. So if you can, go with WP, you already know it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jekabest
    For me WordPress is simple in use.
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    I am very happy with the simplicity, functionality, and customizability of wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author IceT
    I would prefer Wordpress because it's more popular than drupal and google loves wordpress as you know it (wordpress is better with seo).
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashley G
      Originally Posted by augusterber View Post

      Wordpress is not a full blown CMS, and it you try to make it one you'll fail eventually.
      @ augusterber

      Normally I hold my tongue but I am sorry mate, you are so far off-base on this its not even funny.

      To say WordPress isn't a full blown CMS is a reflection on your (lack of) skills or knowledge, not WordPress's capabilities.

      I build WordPress into complex feature rich CMS, social platforms and web applications everyday. 19 out of 20 WordPress websites I build are NOT blogs.

      My clients range from small businesses to large fortune 500 corporations. Project scopes range from a couple of thousand dollars to as much as $40-$50k. If you can imagine it I can build it... ON WORDPRESS!!!!!

      Under development right now I have 2 e-commerce websites, 3 full social networks and 5 fullblown CMS websites for clients... all WordPress

      With WordPress, Joomla, Drupal the limit is NEVER in the software. It's in the coder.

      Any one of the platforms - Joomla, Drupal, or WordPress - can be made into anything in the hands of someone who actually knows what they are doing.

      The advantage of WordPress is that it doesn't have a lot of features cluttering the core which makes it easier for a skilled coder to bend it to their will. With other platforms you can sometimes spend as much time fighting the platform as you do in writing your code.

      So whatever platform the coder you are working with prefers, that's the best platform for the job.

      And to say not only that WordPress isn't a CMS but that "if you try to make it one you will fail eventually". Where do you get off making such a sweeping generalization? Are you a programmer? Or just a CSS hack and a theme jockey? Just because you can't do it mate doesn't mean the rest of us have your limitations.

      To say such a thing is insulting to every REAL programmer out there who has spent years honing their skills.

      I am sick and tired of hearing people blast this platform or that one because they couldn't get it to do what they wanted. It's like saying the grapes are sour just because your couldn't reach the vine...
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  • Profile picture of the author buldogg
    Wordpress is easier, but with Drupal your work is limitless. However for small and medium websites I prefer wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdesignchef
    Wordpress, i have worked with it more than 3 years now and its a great tool!
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