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Autoresponders, how to

by Vikuna2009+
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What I know:

Most optin forms on a website should be above fold to the right, asking only for name and email address with a submit button saying something else than submit. Some forms are just like that. Then there are the one's that appears on top of the site after a few seconds, darkening out the site and more or less demanding you to fill it out. I am sure there are other versions as well, like the one's that appears when you attempt to close the window, begging you to stay.

Now, the platform the site is built on might be Wordpress, Joomla, HTML or any other and here is where the confusion thickens... With WP there are many plugins for forms to use for the type of optin but if it is not WP, what optin form do you use? Is it one provided by your autoresponder supplier of choice or?

Most confusingly is how exactly do you get that form onto someone else's website? Example: you find a website online that looks great but there is no optin form anywhere. You realize you could contact them to set this up and charge a fee for that but you do not know how. And no, please do not just tell me to outsource it, does not work for me at all. I would actually like to learn how to do this myself, as in 100% and any and all combinations thereof since MANY sites do not have an AR.

Finally, what would be a reasonable fee to charge for this? Yes, just setting it up would be one fee, writing the actual emails would be another.

If this is too complex here, please provide a link if you can.

Thanks in advance,

Eva

P.s. I hope I posted this in the correct forum section...

P.P.S. Is this something I could learn completely by signing up for a trial month with Chris Farrell's membership?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nauman K
    Hi Mate,
    Test this it out, It might help..
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by Nauman K View Post

      Test this it out, It might help..
      Reading the OP can also help... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    The very simple answer is this: IF you know HTML and CSS, no matter what kind of platform is in use (a CMS or hand-coded HTML site) you should be able to place any form anywhere and to customize it in many ways.

    Well, if you don't know HTML/CSS - then why do you want to offer a "service" when you have no idea how to do it?

    (p.s. WP 'optin form' plugins are useless...)
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    • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      The very simple answer is this: IF you know HTML and CSS, no matter what kind of platform is in use (a CMS or hand-coded HTML site) you should be able to place any form anywhere and to customize it in many ways.

      Well, if you don't know HTML/CSS - then why do you want to offer a "service" when you have no idea how to do it?

      (p.s. WP 'optin form' plugins are useless...)
      Well Istvan, I always appreciate your bluntness, not that it did answer my question or pointed my in the right direction, lol. What I did learn just now from you is that I would have to be fluent in html and css which of course I am not. Find it hard to belive though that I would actually have to be "fluent" but if that is the truth, no, offering this "service" is not for me to get involved in.

      What gets me is that people tend to say that this is sooooo "easy", anyone can basically do it (which, of course, I did not believe).

      And, saying optin form plugins are "useless" did not help much, an explanation as to WHY would have helped clarify the matter.

      Thanks anyway, Eva
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    • Profile picture of the author UMS
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      (p.s. WP 'optin form' plugins are useless...)
      That's a very broad statement.

      I use a WP optin plugin that is incredibly useful as it allows me to easily design all manner of optin forms (sidebar, footer, slider, lightbox, squeezepage etc). It also includes split test functionality.

      Doing all that manually would be an absolute pain.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
        Originally Posted by UMS View Post

        That's a very broad statement.

        I use a WP optin plugin that is incredibly useful as it allows me to easily design all manner of optin forms (sidebar, footer, slider, lightbox, squeezepage etc). It also includes split test functionality.

        Doing all that manually would be an absolute pain.
        Sounds really good to me but without mentioning which plugin that would be, totally useless. Then, a little contribution to my original post would also have been nice.... I guess the end game for all is to push their sigs or something.

        Eva
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Peter & Eva,

    Yes, I know, it was a very broad statement... however, most of the time people want optin/autoresponder WP plugins as a cheap (free?) replacement for real AR systems; and those are all using the host's PHP mail or SMTP, which will end up in suspension of the hosting account. Once again: the majority of this kind of "opt-in" WP plugins operate in this way - hence they are useless.

    And yes, I agree, a link to the superduper plugin would be nice and perhaps helpful... although the OP (Eva) was asking how to proceed to place an optin form on web sites made by other platforms than WP, or no platform. (No platform in my books = HTML/PHP/ASP/etc. sites made without a CMS!)

    Any opt-in (or other type of) form is written in HTML > HTML Forms and Input - forms are among the basic building elements of HTML. There is no other way to go around it...

    Then, as with any HTML element, you can add IDs and/or classes and play with CSS until you learn how to "style" them.
    BTW, Peter, can your plugin add/change/modify the CSS attributes of any "designed" form?
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    • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Peter & Eva,

      Yes, I know, it was a very broad statement... however, most of the time people want optin/autoresponder WP plugins as a cheap (free?) replacement for real AR systems; and those are all using the host's PHP mail or SMTP, which will end up in suspension of the hosting account. Once again: the majority of this kind of "opt-in" WP plugins operate in this way - hence they are useless.

      And yes, I agree, a link to the superduper plugin would be nice and perhaps helpful... although the OP (Eva) was asking how to proceed to place an optin form on web sites made by other platforms than WP, or no platform. (No platform in my books = HTML/PHP/ASP/etc. sites made without a CMS!)

      Any opt-in (or other type of) form is written in HTML > HTML Forms and Input - forms are among the basic building elements of HTML. There is no other way to go around it...

      Then, as with any HTML element, you can add IDs and/or classes and play with CSS until you learn how to "style" them.
      BTW, Peter, can your plugin add/change/modify the CSS attributes of any "designed" form?
      I did not exclude WP, just didn't want the "answers" to be totally WP, that's all. And, since you all know by now that I am no techie at all, lol, my questions might seem ridiculous to you, trying to dabble in something I have only a minor clue about.

      However, I still believe I would be capable of doing this, just do not know how... And, since this type of service could actually be a life-saver for a business, it would be a great service to sell. I do understand a LITTLE about html, just never had the patience or the time to try to learn it properly. I also understand what css is but that's about it.


      Thanks for your reply, Eva
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