Sub domain or domain

yestyle

Banned 11 years ago

You should buy a domain and develop on it. of course you can add more sub domain on it if you want.

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cashiskinginfo 11 years ago

But which would be better for promoting?
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topnichewebsites

11 years ago

treasure.yourdomain.com
cashcow.yourdomain.com

or

yourdomain.com/treasure
yourdomain.com/cashcow

Is really the same and no can be as many pages as you need

Personal i like the first one (subdomains) better as I can organize it better in my mind and is sometimes it is easier to set up an application, particularly if it uses mod-rewrite to re-write URLs.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by topnichewebsites

treasure.yourdomain.com
particularly if it uses mod-rewrite to re-write URLs.

I have no idea what that means.

Won't sub domains rank better then just using a / to link to pages?

Say like if you're talking to someone about a site, is it easier to remember the subdomain?

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RobinInTexas

11 years ago

Subdomains are separate web sites. and don't help one another rank.

If you are looking for SEO, mydomain.com/treasuretrooper would be better

If you are linking from ads or posts on blogs or forums, generally people are clicking links and it doesn't matter.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RobinInTexas

Subdomains are separate web sites. and don't help one another rank.

See, everyone says someone different. A couple posts on this site said that sub domains would help a site rank better.

If you are looking for SEO, mydomain.com/treasuretrooper would be better

If you are linking from ads or posts on blogs or forums, generally people are clicking links and it doesn't matter

I'm also going to do offline advertising too.

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- PixySnot 11 years ago
  
  For things that are all related in some way to my main blog, I use subdomains. Anyone seeing a link on there will see it's related to my blog because it's the same domain name, just a different subdomain. My blog is about making & saving money online. So I have a subdomain that goes to my squeeze page, and the domain itself goes right to my blog, since my blog has a built in "custom domain" feature (I believe WP charges extra for that domain mapping feature BTW).
  
  I have a different domain name for my personal site, because it's not in any way related to my blog. I use my personal site for my portfolio and anything else I just feel like putting on there because I can.
  
  So I'd say if it's all GPT Wars related, use subdomains and have your domain name be relevant to all of those GPT Wars things, so when people see the link they know it's a related thing.
  
  Also, I have been using 1and1 for years and I like it. The domain mapping on my blogging platform was IMO easier to do with 1and1 than it would have been with GoDaddy, judging by all the people I know using the same system as me, having trouble with getting theirs set up on GoDaddy.
  
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  cashiskinginfo 10 years ago
  
  I'll just put it all on one site. This way it would be easier just one site, instead of promoting 9 different ones.
  
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pilaruk

11 years ago

If you are going to use it just for creating landing pages and it is all related you can use subdomains.
But if the subdomain has nothing to do with the main domain I would recommend creating different sites using different domains unless you want to confuse your visitors.
Hope that helps.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by pilaruk

If you are going to use it just for creating landing pages and it is all related you can use subdomains.
But if the subdomain has nothing to do with the main domain I would recommend creating different sites using different domains unless you want to confuse your visitors.
Hope that helps.

Well, they are kind of related. They're all gpt sites.

That was I was thinking, that the user might get confused and and just type in the main domain then. And they might forgot what the subdomain.

And domains are cheap. I would be using a .info And 1and1 have them for 99 cents with free domain registration, for the first year.

If you look at my site(in my signature), that's kind of like how it's going to be.

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LA Grouch

11 years ago

treasure.yourdomain.com is a subdomain. Search engines will treat this as a new site and it will not share any SEO that your primary domain has achieved.

yourdomain.com/treasure is a sub-directory which is a folder in your primary domain root. The search engines treat this as an extension of the primary domain and it will share any SEO that your primary domain has achieved.

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HeadStartSEO

11 years ago

I find that directories are easier to manage for sites <100k monthly visits. This goes for my own sites as well as client sites. There are exceptions: large EDU clients are sites where subdomains are being built by different design teams.

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UMS

11 years ago

Originally Posted by cashiskinginfo

Which is better?

The crucial question not asked yet, is "better" for what?

SEO, management, scalability, etc, etc.

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jay walters 11 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

The crucial question not asked yet, is "better" for what?

SEO, management, scalability, etc, etc.

Hi guys,

I agree. What is it better for?

Unless we know what it is then

we cannot address the right answer.

Just saying.
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webfantasy

11 years ago

The Domain Name System (DNS) has a tree structure or hierarchy, with each non-RR (resource record) node on the tree being a domain name. A subdomain is a domain that is part of a larger domain

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buysellbrowse

11 years ago

Technically, using anything in front of a domain name indicates a different host or node on the same network (i.e, "host1.yourdomain.com", "host2.yourdomain.com"), while anything after a domain name is a different web directory or site on the same host (i.e, "www.yourdomain.com/site1/", "www.yourdomain.com/site2/").

In the first instance, you can have different IPs for the two hosts.

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cashiskinginfo 11 years ago

Easier for seo. And also being easier to manage.

I was thinking of user blogspot. Create a different page for every site I'm promoting. But take the page tab out. So you don't have links to the other pages.
But I don't want that .blogspot. For offline advertising, I don't think it will be memorable. I want an easy name to remember.
Would you remember something like, mydomain.blogspot.com.
Or would you remember, my domain.com.

For online advertising, I don't think that would be such a big deal.

I don't want to pay for hosting if I can get it for free. And blogger has lots of templates, maybe no them, but they are lots of third party sites that has lots of templates.

So what I was thinking of doing. Is stay with them on blogger, Get a domain name for each page. And have it redirect, with masking.
Or according to this, just buy 1 domain, then create subdomains with that.
Then it would just be, something like. cc.mydomain.com, tt.mydomain.com, sq.mydomain.com. Than, of course, something on the homepage. Incase they don't type in the subdomain.

I'm not that good at html, I use kompozer. And I don't know where to put the html in the file structure when I upload.

I'm also looking for something that is easy for me to manage.
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- cashiskinginfo 11 years ago
  
  The reason I leaning more towards the subdomain. Is because all the good domains names are taken.
  
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  cashiskinginfo 11 years ago
  
  Maybe I use the free version of webs.com. This was I have more control over the HTML.
  
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stellajohn

11 years ago

If you want to keep your sub domain website like a new website you can make the sub domain like treasure.yourdomain.com , if you make like sub directory i.e yourdomain.com/treasure , it will looks like a new page which will derive from the main website i.e yourdomain.com. For example if you want to create a multi-store ecommerce sites, I ll suggest to keep it like treasure.yourdomain.com

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by stellajohn

If you want to keep your sub domain website like a new website you can make the sub domain like treasure.yourdomain.com , if you make like sub directory i.e yourdomain.com/treasure , it will looks like a new page which will derive from the main website i.e yourdomain.com. For example if you want to create a multi-store ecommerce sites, I ll suggest to keep it like treasure.yourdomain.com

I already know what a domain and subdomain are.

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samuelallister 11 years ago

I personally would use subdomains when trying to exhibit a different section of a website. But the content should be consistent, so I don't think its recommended to have unrelated content on a subdomain relative to the content on your main website.

Take, Apple.com for example. Nice looking website, well-put and developed, right?

Take note that every product they offer is something like apple.com/iphone or apple.com/ipad right?

Now look at the Store, their online shop.
See how its store.apple.com?

It addresses different functions or sections of your website.
So the store.apple.com is an online shop.
And the discussions.apple.com is an online forum.

I hope I am really helping you out with this example. Message me if you need help!
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- cashiskinginfo 11 years ago
  
  First off, I'm not trying to spam. I think if they see it, they have a better understanding.
  
  My blog, for now, is GPT Wars
  The pages are.
  GPT Wars: Cashcrate
  GPT Wars: Caveofwonder
  GPT Wars: Highestpaygpt
  GPT Wars: Instagc
  GPT Wars: Makethatdollar
  GPT Wars: Paidthefatstest
  GPT Wars: Rewards-spot
  GPT Wars: Squishycash
  GPT Wars: Treasuretrooper
  
  Which no pages are linked to each other.
  
  This is only an example. All the pages going to be different.
  
  I have another one moneycrashers
  Now that. Sub folders are good for that. I know I wouldn't need a subdomain for that.
  Unless, I added, something, like a forum.
  
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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

A crazy thing about subdomains that most people don't realize is that when you are "hosting unlimited # of domains" on most of the hosting services, a Baby Hostgator account for example, each additional domain that is hosted under that account is actually a SUBDOMAIN of the original sign-up account. Surprisingly enough you still can rank websites pretty well under this arrangement, but in the long run for seo reasons it is best to have different accounts on different IPs etc. instead of all the domains in one virtual place.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Shelton

but in the long run for seo reasons it is best to have different accounts on different IPs etc. instead of all the domains in one virtual place.

What do you mean by that? When I think of IP's, I think of the IP address, and we have no control over the IP address.
Having one central place to log in, I think it's better for managing.
I'm also going to do offline advertising also. Trying to do offline advertising with blogger would be hard. With people remembering the name.

That why I may go with 1and. $1 hosting, with 10 subdomains. By a domain from them. So for $13, I can be all set up for a year.

But is there anything cheaper hosting, then 99 cents a months.

I was looking at those free hosting solutions. I don't know if they're any good or not.
But I guess it's no better then using these free blogging platforms.

Years ago I used to use doteasy, when it was free. They gotten rid of the free hosting.

I was gonna to go with webs.com. But it says if I don't log into my account in 60 days, my site would be deleted.
And they gotten rid of HTML only. They will let you use HTML. But you have to use one of their templates, which you can't remove stuff or change the layout.

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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

Originally Posted by cashiskinginfo

What do you mean by that? When I think of IP's, I think of the IP address, and we have no control over the IP address.
Having one central place to log in, I think it's better for managing.

There are plenty of hosting companies where you can, for a fee, have different domains on different IPs.

Good luck with your choice of ultra-cheap hosting.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Do you know any good free or cheap ones.
What does a IP address have to do with hosting?

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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

Originally Posted by cashiskinginfo

Do you know any good free or cheap ones.
What does a IP address have to do with hosting?

Well with hosting it really pays to do your due-diligence. Do research and find sites and real people giving real reviews on the hosting services, not just trying to get a commission, and decide from there - you will be really glad you did this beforehand.

The way IP addresses make a difference with hosting is this: With the typical 'host unlimited domains on one account' service, all your domains are all under the same IP address, on the same server, and in fact are all built as subdomains off of your one signup domain. Search engines can see this, no problem, so serious linking between sites where it is supposed to look like separate businesses linking to each other, etc. is not as effective, as I understand it, than having domains hosted on different servers with different IPs, which makes it look like they are separate entities/businesses, even though they may be owned by the same person. Does that make sense?

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Does it really matter if it's on the same IP? I still don't understand that.
The way I'm reading it. Google is punishing sites that are linking to each other if they using the same IP.

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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

Originally Posted by cashiskinginfo

Does it really matter if it's on the same IP? I still don't understand that.
The way I'm reading it. Google is punishing sites that are linking to each other if they using the same IP.

No, for most sites it won't matter if they are on the same IP - if your sites do well enough with your content etc. that someday down the road you want to get hosting with multiple IPs so that you can have things optimized as much as possible, fine, but it sure isn't necessary starting out. Link all you want from one to another as long as it makes sense.
Google as I understand it is trying to optimize the user's experience and that means cutting out a lot of spammy stuff, but you never know what Google will do nowadays so you certainly don't want to base your success or failure with Google rankings.

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cashiskinginfo

11 years ago

Multiple IP's are BS. I was reading some stuff last night about that.

I've found some stuff, here, here and here. Those are just 3 examples, from Matt Cutts. I think he's in charge of Google search, so I think he will know the most.

He only said that you have to be careful linking them together.
Which I'm not linking them together. No matter if it's a tdl, or subdomain. You won't be able to the other sites.
e.g. I have domain.com and mysite.com, you can't see mysite.com from domain.com. The same if their were subdomains.

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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

Originally Posted by cashiskinginfo

Multiple IP's are BS. I was reading some stuff last night about that.

I've found some stuff, here, here and here. Those are just 3 examples, from Matt Cutts. I think he's in charge of Google search, so I think he will know the most.

He only said that you have to be careful linking them together.
Which I'm not linking them together. No matter if it's a tdl, or subdomain. You won't be able to the other sites.
e.g. I have domain.com and mysite.com, you can't see mysite.com from domain.com. The same if their were subdomains.

The articles you listed - one of them Matt Cutts debunks "multiple sites all hosted on the same IP would be an inherent issue with Google" - I didn't say it would be an issue with Google, I said that separate IPs could potentially help with seo.

Then your 2nd link "virtual hosts vs. dedicated IP addresses" - which is a separate issue,

and the third link says "Matt says it would be a "cross linking scheme" to link all of these sites together, unless there was a "very good reason" to do so." - which is exactly what I said, just in different words.

If you do a search for "benefit of multiple ip addresses" there's lots of information - here's one example that I quickly grabbed: Benefits of Using Multiple C Class IP Hosting | Rankfirst hosting

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RobinInTexas

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Shelton

If you do a search for "benefit of multiple ip addresses" there's lots of information - here's one example that I quickly grabbed: Benefits of Using Multiple C Class IP Hosting | Rankfirst hosting

High priced Multiple Class C IP Hosting is losing it's favor among some people, and I would not use the advantage assertions of a site selling it as an authority.

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Matthew Shelton

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RobinInTexas

High priced Multiple Class C IP Hosting is losing it's favor among some people, and I would not use the advantage assertions of a site selling it as an authority.

You are right - I just grabbed a link really quick on the subject. The point, for me at least, was that it "isn't all b.s." A lot of people get a similar effect as that of multiple IPs, for free, by posting their content on Web 2.0 properties and linking from there.

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tonyla

11 years ago

I have a domain contentiskingplr. When I search it.
My subdomain article-directory.contentiskingplr.com shows before primary bomain

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tonyla 11 years ago

I have has subdomains show up in the top 3 of noodle.
Historically subdomains we used to name sections of your site. Ie like forums.killersite.com
photos.killersite.com

I use subdomains to host the files of a new site. If i can afford it I create an addon domain.
If you are building lots of sites a reseller account covers this problem.

Also, I have created a subdomain and hosted it at it very own account.
Keep you namespace simple also remember to look both ways when crossing the street. Cause if you don't then all this is for not.
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- tonyla 11 years ago
  
  Best of luck.I have had 20 site listed 1 at stroogle. then when I started to take head they all got bounced back.
  
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markhar

11 years ago

A sub-domain is not the same as domain. Google was spamming a same looks sites. So it's better to go with domain and than add many sub-domain in that.

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