How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA

SteveAC · 07-28-2009, 03:55 PM

Alrite, if you follow what I say in this post you should be able make thousands of dollars daily with CPA offers. I'm not a special snowflake.

First off, only promote hot offers that other affiliates are doing well with. Find out from your Affiliate Managers which offers are performing the best on the network. You want to know volume and network-wide EPC.

Before you start doing anything. Get tracking202pro. There's a free trial. If you don't track, you wont know what is making you money and what is losing you money.

Browse landing pages other affiliates are using to promote the offer you chose. Grab the three that look best. Change them around, make them better, and put into an lp rotator. You can find the lp rotator php code for free.

Now go to quantcast.com. Enter the url of the offer and get demographic data.

Browse the top sites on Quantcast, starting with the top 100:
Quantcast

You'll notice quantcast tells you which sites accept ads. Check the demographics on those that do. Advertise on any of them that match your demographics of the offer.

Some will make you money, others will lose you money. Thats why you gotta track! But the ones that do well, you can scale up like crazy. After all you are going after the most popular sites online!

Also get a free offer rotator php script and rotate the offer that is served up when they click through from your landing page.

After about 500 clicks, keep the landing page that works best and drop the other 2. Find two more and put them in the rotator to compete against the winner. You are going to keep doing this process until you find the absolute best lp.

Do basically the same thing for the offer - keep testing until you find the highest converting offer. For the popular niches there are tons of similar offers. Don't be lazy, test them all. Check offervault.com to see which network offers the best pay on any given offer.

When you start doing well with one site, find out through quantcast the similar sites and advertise on those if you can.

And always ask your affiliate managers to bump up your pay. Let me know if you got questions or if you need more info on anything.

Thumoney · 07-28-2009, 07:56 PM

Hey Steve, great post ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveAC

You'll notice quantcast tells you which sites accept ads. Check the demographics on those that do. Advertise on any of them that match your demographics of the offer.

Some will make you money, others will lose you money. Thats why you gotta track! But the ones that do well, you can scale up like crazy. After all you are going after the most popular sites online!

Do you buy the ads on the sites you select (from Quantcast) directly with their advertising agency or in-house team?

Or do you use something like the Google Content-Network?

SteveAC · 07-28-2009, 09:12 PM

Yes, I like to buy direct whenever possible to get the best rate. Using Google Content network or any other ad platform is good to test. But once you you find a winner definitely look into cutting a deal a to cut out the middle man

Kenster · 07-28-2009, 11:37 PM

The golden nugget here is testing testing testing. Too many noobs (including myself just months ago) try rotating two offers on a single lp or rotating a single offer on 2 lps and thats it.

Forget that, stop being lazy. Your ROI will be MUCH higher is you are constantly testing as this thread suggests. Pick 3 offers, 3 lps. Pick the winners, test the winners against modified lps of the winner and other offers. Keep testing. repeat repeat repeat...

If youre not lazy and refuse to stop testing and tweaking your lp, you can milk crazy money out of offers that initially seemed mediocre.

You dont need to be real techy to make good money with CPA, you just need to be willing to do the work and be a wee bit creative

To Your Success

Hyper-X · 07-29-2009, 04:17 AM

Hi SteveAC, do you Skype? I was hoping get you on my messenger at least..

07-29-2009, 05:41 AM

Hi Steve
Great post.
Please tell me about some reliable CPA networks which accept international affiliates without phone interview.

ukbuddy2 · 07-29-2009, 06:56 AM

great post

not sure how you 'buy advertising' on the sites that i select.

have entered url and got demograpics etc how do i find top 100 sites?

danny

dropship · 07-29-2009, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyb1974

great post

not sure how you 'buy advertising' on the sites that i select.

have entered url and got demograpics etc how do i find top 100 sites?

danny

You'll only see the top 100 sites on quantcast.com's home page, I don't think you'll be able to find the top 100 sites in your particular niche.

ChrisBa · 07-29-2009, 09:01 AM

Good tips.. people can also grab either prosper202 or tracking202 as they are free.. most will not need tracking202 pro..

maverick80 · 07-29-2009, 09:21 AM

How do you find your competitors landing pages?

quickregister · 07-29-2009, 09:30 AM

What type of ads do you buy on the sites you find at Quancast? Banners, email, text ads or all the above?

ChrisBa · 07-29-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick80

How do you find your competitors landing pages?

search google for terms related to your niche, look at there ads and visit there sites

maverick80 · 07-29-2009, 09:51 AM

adwords is a ghost town as far as affiliate landing pages goes these days. maybe i'm searching using the wrong key terms?

joewiley · 08-03-2009, 03:25 PM

for me...you choose the best cpa offer you can get.......find a site on quantacast.....click on the site that match your cpa offer keyword...and ask the owner of the website whether you can rent banner space on his website or not. Most of them will let you put your banner on their site. This media buying method is much much more cheaper compare to do PPC. What do the expert here thinks?

maverick80 · 08-04-2009, 08:23 AM

Gee, I wonder if the people in this thread are promoting zero friction? lol

azizali88 · 08-04-2009, 01:17 PM

That is the mini version of Media buys

jlopezjr · 08-04-2009, 08:08 PM

Nice. Thanks for the valuable info!

honestbizpro · 08-04-2009, 08:16 PM

Great Contribution!

Total newbs may miss alot of steps in between, and everyone can't pick a winner to save their lives...but you give a great outline to follow.

But I think if they really go thru the CPA section and learn and follow your guideline they will increase their chances of success exponentially!

High Five!

webatomic · 08-04-2009, 10:35 PM

What about Direct Linking? Is that not advised?

Genkides · 08-05-2009, 08:07 AM

Terrific post and a clean blueprint to success.

Is there a place where one could go for more details on individual steps?

I for one would love to refer to it.

Thanks again for such a great post!

To your success

Genkides

smart_sdr · 08-05-2009, 02:35 PM

Great greeting to SteveAC also greeting for others, this is my first post in this forum and I'm still learning about internet marketing, please SteveAC can you explain more about lp rotator, what is lp? is it an abbreviation for something? and what about buying ads? please explain more.

Thank you.

Adway · 08-05-2009, 02:49 PM

Awesome post for anyone who wants to do Affiliate Marketing the right way!

1.) Start Venture
2.) Track
3.) Gather Data
4.) Make Changes
5.) Run Campaign Again With Changes.

Do it over and over until your making more money than you can count

Best way to do things. Thanks for the post.

Saj Gupta · 08-05-2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smart_sdr

Great greeting to SteveAC also greeting for others, this is my first post in this forum and I'm still learning about internet marketing, please SteveAC can you explain more about lp rotator, what is lp? is it an abbreviation for something? and what about buying ads? please explain more.

Thank you.

That is landing page rotator. So if you are doing CPA marketing you can rotate multiple offers for the same niche. This way you can track which of the offers is getting more response and then make that offer on your main page. I would start with 3 then 2 then 1.

folkcare · 09-06-2009, 09:36 PM

STEVE AC

Thanks for the very good advice and I've made a copy of it to follow. Someone asked if it worked ok with direct linking, anybody got anything to say about dl?

metafever · 09-06-2009, 10:41 PM

NICE POST!

Lots of good info there!

PM if you would like to do a guest post sometime.

ckboddic · 09-06-2009, 11:46 PM

Just to be sure, is Google Website Optimizer an example of a landing page rotator?

Whosyou · 09-07-2009, 07:20 AM

Ive read 2 threads today and both have been pure WF gold. Thank you very much!

Myheavens · 09-07-2009, 01:57 PM

Testing , Testing and Testing and tracking is all you need to do ......

nubianronin · 09-07-2009, 05:46 PM

Responding to ckboddic- A statistical approach exists called "A/B" testing, meaning that you have two versions of something you are trying to test. Once you have acquired a "statistically significant" number of responses you may infer which version meets your objectives better. A landing page rotator will enable this approach.

However, web pages (since that is what we are talking about here) are comprised of a great many elements (text, audio, video, images) that all may comprise a tremendous number of combinations. There is another type of software called "Multivariate Testing" which will allow you to test variations in multiple elements all at the same time. The software will then perform the statistical analysis and will help you optimize based upon visitor behavior.

Google Optimizer is a Multivariate Testing application that is free us use and implement. There are also other statistical packages available to implement Multivariate Testing. Some of them are quite expensive. One such package that does a good job and is affordable is MuVar, which was originally developed by James Brausch. You can simply Google it or visit muvarDOTinfo/MuVar2009SpecialPricingDOThtml (substitute DOT with a period).

ckboddic · 09-07-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nubianronin

Responding to ckboddic- A statistical approach exists called "A/B" testing, meaning that you have two versions of something you are trying to test. Once you have acquired a "statistically significant" number of responses you may infer which version meets your objectives better. A landing page rotator will enable this approach.

However, web pages (since that is what we are talking about here) are comprised of a great many elements (text, audio, video, images) that all may comprise a tremendous number of combinations. There is another type of software called "Multivariate Testing" which will allow you to test variations in multiple elements all at the same time. The software will then perform the statistical analysis and will help you optimize based upon visitor behavior.

Google Optimizer is a Multivariate Testing application that is free us use and implement. There are also other statistical packages available to implement Multivariate Testing. Some of them are quite expensive. One such package that does a good job and is affordable is MuVar, which was originally developed by James Brausch. You can simply Google it or visit muvarDOTinfo/MuVar2009SpecialPricingDOThtml (substitute DOT with a period).

Thanks! So is it fair to say that Google Optimizer is an advanced version of a landing page rotator capable of doing a lot of other things? Can it be used as a landing page rotator?

MicahF7 · 09-07-2009, 06:53 PM

Hey Steve,

Nice post man!

You have no obligation, BUT, it sure would be fun to see a screen shot of one of those four figure days!

nubianronin · 09-07-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckboddic

Thanks! So is it fair to say that Google Optimizer is an advanced version of a landing page rotator capable of doing a lot of other things? Can it be used as a landing page rotator?

That's an interesting question. My experience with Google Optimizer is not extensive enough to give a definitive answer. Simplisticly, you could restrict yourself to a couple of variables. In order to use it as I believe you are suggesting, there would need to be a capability to create sets of attributes and test the sets against one another. By restricting the test in this manner you would get the A/B testing capability you are seeking with a landing page rotator.

I think that you will find testing multiple variables is a better approach because the software will vary many combinations and optimize the best page for you, not just A or B.

When I started to get into this the multivariate products were becoming more affordable and I never used rotator software. I intially used MuVar. It is good software. However, the support is not very good. I have dabbled a bit with Optimizer, yet am not proficient with it at this time.

brp002 · 09-07-2009, 10:39 PM

Thanks for the article. You just gave me the motivation to get started again. I will talk to my affiliate manager tomorrow.

Thanks

Sipboy3000 · 09-08-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveAC

Yes, I like to buy direct whenever possible to get the best rate. Using Google Content network or any other ad platform is good to test. But once you you find a winner definitely look into cutting a deal a to cut out the middle man

Great point Steve!

I also use the Content Network to test.

Here is a link to another thread here on the forum I started about exactly how to cut Google out the picture: Click Here

The Content Network and media buying has proven to be the best way to make money with CPA offers by far.

Tommie

07-28-2009, 03:55 PM	#1
SteveAC Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Thanks: 5 Thanked 21 Times in 3 Posts	How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Alrite, if you follow what I say in this post you should be able make thousands of dollars daily with CPA offers. I'm not a special snowflake. First off, only promote hot offers that other affiliates are doing well with. Find out from your Affiliate Managers which offers are performing the best on the network. You want to know volume and network-wide EPC. Before you start doing anything. Get tracking202pro. There's a free trial. If you don't track, you wont know what is making you money and what is losing you money. Browse landing pages other affiliates are using to promote the offer you chose. Grab the three that look best. Change them around, make them better, and put into an lp rotator. You can find the lp rotator php code for free. Now go to quantcast.com. Enter the url of the offer and get demographic data. Browse the top sites on Quantcast, starting with the top 100: Quantcast You'll notice quantcast tells you which sites accept ads. Check the demographics on those that do. Advertise on any of them that match your demographics of the offer. Some will make you money, others will lose you money. Thats why you gotta track! But the ones that do well, you can scale up like crazy. After all you are going after the most popular sites online! Also get a free offer rotator php script and rotate the offer that is served up when they click through from your landing page. After about 500 clicks, keep the landing page that works best and drop the other 2. Find two more and put them in the rotator to compete against the winner. You are going to keep doing this process until you find the absolute best lp. Do basically the same thing for the offer - keep testing until you find the highest converting offer. For the popular niches there are tons of similar offers. Don't be lazy, test them all. Check offervault.com to see which network offers the best pay on any given offer. When you start doing well with one site, find out through quantcast the similar sites and advertise on those if you can. And always ask your affiliate managers to bump up your pay. Let me know if you got questions or if you need more info on anything.

07-28-2009, 09:12 PM	#3
SteveAC Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Thanks: 5 Thanked 21 Times in 3 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Yes, I like to buy direct whenever possible to get the best rate. Using Google Content network or any other ad platform is good to test. But once you you find a winner definitely look into cutting a deal a to cut out the middle man

07-28-2009, 11:37 PM	#4
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 581 Thanked 1,888 Times in 842 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA The golden nugget here is testing testing testing. Too many noobs (including myself just months ago) try rotating two offers on a single lp or rotating a single offer on 2 lps and thats it. Forget that, stop being lazy. Your ROI will be MUCH higher is you are constantly testing as this thread suggests. Pick 3 offers, 3 lps. Pick the winners, test the winners against modified lps of the winner and other offers. Keep testing. repeat repeat repeat... If youre not lazy and refuse to stop testing and tweaking your lp, you can milk crazy money out of offers that initially seemed mediocre. You dont need to be real techy to make good money with CPA, you just need to be willing to do the work and be a wee bit creative To Your Success

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07-29-2009, 05:41 AM	#6
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ukbuddy2 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk Posts: 264 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA great post not sure how you 'buy advertising' on the sites that i select. have entered url and got demograpics etc how do i find top 100 sites? danny

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quickregister Matthew Meyer War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 233 Thanks: 7 Thanked 69 Times in 30 Posts Social Networking	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA What type of ads do you buy on the sites you find at Quancast? Banners, email, text ads or all the above?
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maverick80 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 186 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA adwords is a ghost town as far as affiliate landing pages goes these days. maybe i'm searching using the wrong key terms?

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joewiley Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somewhere Posts: 56 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA for me...you choose the best cpa offer you can get.......find a site on quantacast.....click on the site that match your cpa offer keyword...and ask the owner of the website whether you can rent banner space on his website or not. Most of them will let you put your banner on their site. This media buying method is much much more cheaper compare to do PPC. What do the expert here thinks?

08-04-2009, 08:23 AM	#15
maverick80 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 186 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Gee, I wonder if the people in this thread are promoting zero friction? lol

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Genkides Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Terrific post and a clean blueprint to success. Is there a place where one could go for more details on individual steps? I for one would love to refer to it. Thanks again for such a great post! To your success Genkides

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smart_sdr Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Great greeting to SteveAC also greeting for others, this is my first post in this forum and I'm still learning about internet marketing, please SteveAC can you explain more about lp rotator, what is lp? is it an abbreviation for something? and what about buying ads? please explain more. Thank you.
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Adway HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In California Posts: 331 Thanks: 54 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Awesome post for anyone who wants to do Affiliate Marketing the right way! 1.) Start Venture 2.) Track 3.) Gather Data 4.) Make Changes 5.) Run Campaign Again With Changes. Do it over and over until your making more money than you can count Best way to do things. Thanks for the post.

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folkcare HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 140 Thanks: 73 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA STEVE AC Thanks for the very good advice and I've made a copy of it to follow. Someone asked if it worked ok with direct linking, anybody got anything to say about dl?
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ckboddic Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Just to be sure, is Google Website Optimizer an example of a landing page rotator?

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09-07-2009, 05:46 PM	#29
nubianronin Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Responding to ckboddic- A statistical approach exists called "A/B" testing, meaning that you have two versions of something you are trying to test. Once you have acquired a "statistically significant" number of responses you may infer which version meets your objectives better. A landing page rotator will enable this approach. However, web pages (since that is what we are talking about here) are comprised of a great many elements (text, audio, video, images) that all may comprise a tremendous number of combinations. There is another type of software called "Multivariate Testing" which will allow you to test variations in multiple elements all at the same time. The software will then perform the statistical analysis and will help you optimize based upon visitor behavior. Google Optimizer is a Multivariate Testing application that is free us use and implement. There are also other statistical packages available to implement Multivariate Testing. Some of them are quite expensive. One such package that does a good job and is affordable is MuVar, which was originally developed by James Brausch. You can simply Google it or visit muvarDOTinfo/MuVar2009SpecialPricingDOThtml (substitute DOT with a period).

09-07-2009, 06:53 PM	#31
MicahF7 Micah Rush Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 441 Thanks: 26 Thanked 110 Times in 33 Posts	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Hey Steve, Nice post man! You have no obligation, BUT, it sure would be fun to see a screen shot of one of those four figure days!

09-07-2009, 10:39 PM	#33
brp002 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 284 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: How I Make Four Figures a day with CPA Thanks for the article. You just gave me the motivation to get started again. I will talk to my affiliate manager tomorrow. Thanks
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