Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke?

rebiller · 03-04-2010, 01:10 PM

Today, I launched a campaign on search for generic weight loss keywords paying a good chunk and was 2 > position wise. 10/10 etc. (UK)

I was rotating through Fat burning furnace, truth about ads, diet solution program. So I launched it, let it run and it was getting a few clicks.

I fell asleep, woke up and boom $1200 spent, so i thought yay

lets see the leads, and when I logged into CB i saw $0 :/ so I thought wtf, clicked my links and my user was being added to the hops fine.

So I tried to order my self to see what was up, and when I did I got errors.

With using a CC, other CCs I own and I also tried a VCC. My friends also got this same message:

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Your order was not approved. Please try another card. (0)

With paypal:

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Your order was not approved. Please try another card. (0)

and paypal also forced me to use CC instead of bank which it normally does.

Is this kind of think normal for clickbank? I know if this was a traditional CPA network my $1200 would have been reimbursed.

I sent about 1500 clicks, and got 0 sales. I was direct linking to their offer, as this is how I was suggested to push it and how I've seen others to push it.

What kind of EPCs, ECPMS and conversion rates have you seen and have you come accross this problem? If so, often?

Alexa Smith · 03-04-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rebiller

I was direct linking to their offer, as this is how I was suggested to push it

By whom?

Promoting those products, I would expect fewer than 15 sales from 1,500 clicks who have arrived via my affiliate-site as a pre-sell first! (Not that I actually promote those products, myself).

Sorry to hear about your rather disastrous experiment.

It's not as easy as that - I suspect (very strongly indeed!) that you've been given some dreadfully bad advice somewhere along the line.

Alexa Smith · 03-04-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John McEachern

How do you come up with those figures?

I just conjure them up out of thin air, you know?

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Originally Posted by John McEachern

Wouldn't keyword selection play a big role in the amount of sales generated?

I dare say, but allowing for that, I wouldn't expect more than a 1% fast conversion-rate (which is what was measured here) of my traffic for those products. Just saying.

SimonHarrison · 03-04-2010, 01:55 PM

You know what I've had a few customers moan to our helpdesk about that error.

It's really damm annoying.

IF we had 3-5 people contact our helpdesk about it, god only knows how many just left in annoyance.

Problem is, I can't replicate the error at all.

SimonHarrison · 03-04-2010, 02:01 PM

FBF converts reasonably well, it's big on content. You can expect on content far less than 15 sales from 1500 clicks however. On search 1:100 is probably about right but ultimately it could vary hugely depending on what keywords you're using.

There is , btw, no problem with direct linking these kind of products, every big content guy I know direct links FBF and TAA and Isabella's program. Sometimes so called review sites only serve to screw the conversions, it completely depends on what keywords you used and how you got them there initially.

I would say however in your case CB had some nasty payment error.

I was almost tempted to ring them about it myself after getting the 4th complaint on our helpdesk.

rebiller · 03-04-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

You know what I've had a few customers moan to our helpdesk about that error.

It's really damm annoying.

IF we had 3-5 people contact our helpdesk about it, god only knows how many just left in annoyance.

Problem is, I can't replicate the error at all.

I'm considering doing a replication of these pages, where on the payment page it triggers my pixels and then redirects to the offer.

The reason I didn't use a presales page, is because those landers are already seriously long and very winded.

I was testing accross a bunch of keywords, however no leads is no leads.

I would have prefered to do a media buy, however clickbank are ****ty enough to not have pixel options

If there are this many people getting errors, maybe I should open up my own platform to compete with some real processing

ben565 · 03-04-2010, 03:42 PM

why did you not set a daily limit? then you wouldn't have burned through $1200

rebiller · 03-04-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ben565

why did you not set a daily limit? then you wouldn't have burned through $1200

There was, it hit it.

Flaura78 · 03-06-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rebiller

There was, it hit it.

It looks like this is your Cash Burning Furnace! I might be a scaredy cat but I always test offers on free traffic before burning my money on Google. I am really sorry about what happened there. Remember: just because other people are doing well with the offer, it doesn't mean it will work the same with your keywords too... They might know something you don't. Some people have been on PPC since it started! I am not trying to compete with them...

rebiller · 03-06-2010, 08:46 PM

My entire company is built around paid traffic, and google is the smallest % of it. I'm not very good with search, but because of complaints DSP and FBF have generated by publishers, google have stopped new advertisers from advertising on the content network it seems. So search is my only option, and day two of running resulted in $1k spend with just $60 in

fun, fun, fun.

I personally see a lot of potential in these video presell products, but I also see where a lot of improvements can be made. So I've got my team to recreate a similar product with some endorsements and our own processing system.

Thanks for the input anyway everyone.

mikkosant · 03-06-2010, 10:34 PM

I don't mean to jump on the clickbank tracking sucks theme, but this week has been unusually odd for one of my sites. It regularly makes sales, then the last week or two has only made 1 sale, yet more order form submits and more traffic to my site due to a higher serp.

Is 1200 a regular daily budget for you? I hope this order form submit nonsense get worked out very soon. I'm thinking about just creating the my own product and go directly through paypal. Surely the sales will be increased, but then again, that's a ton of work.

I hope this get figured out and thanks for bringing it up.

Flaura78 · 03-07-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rebiller

My entire company is built around paid traffic, and google is the smallest % of it. I'm not very good with search, but because of complaints DSP and FBF have generated by publishers, google have stopped new advertisers from advertising on the content network it seems. So search is my only option, and day two of running resulted in $1k spend with just $60 in

fun, fun, fun.

I personally see a lot of potential in these video presell products, but I also see where a lot of improvements can be made. So I've got my team to recreate a similar product with some endorsements and our own processing system.

Thanks for the input anyway everyone.

OK, there it is... If you were to manage to get PLR products while you are creating your own produts, there are real good ones with complete sales letters, video squeeze pages. You can also try building your own list while generating traffic by pre-qualifying leads.
How about that?

Nanville · 11-25-2010, 01:21 AM

I'm new here and I don't know if I'm doing the right thing posting here.

I'm thinking of promoting The Diet Solution Program but I noticed that the owners of the website are promoting 2 products: Fat Burning Furnace and Final Phase Fat Loss with their Clickbank IDs! Anybody notice this?

jmaresca2005 · 11-25-2010, 05:11 PM

contact your AM right away. there could be an issue with the advertisers merchant account.

Internet_Corporation · 11-26-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rebiller

I fell asleep, woke up and boom $1200 spent, so i thought yay

lets see the leads, and when I logged into CB i saw $0 :/ so I thought wtf, clicked my links and my user was being added to the hops fine.

You should have set your daily spend limit to a more comfortable amount. Although I no longer use Adwords, a $50 a day starting point to me was alawys safe. Then once its working increase the spend.

03-04-2010, 01:55 PM	#4
SimonHarrison Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 2,066 Thanks: 246 Thanked 446 Times in 266 Posts	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? You know what I've had a few customers moan to our helpdesk about that error. It's really damm annoying. IF we had 3-5 people contact our helpdesk about it, god only knows how many just left in annoyance. Problem is, I can't replicate the error at all.

03-04-2010, 02:01 PM	#5
SimonHarrison Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 2,066 Thanks: 246 Thanked 446 Times in 266 Posts	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? FBF converts reasonably well, it's big on content. You can expect on content far less than 15 sales from 1500 clicks however. On search 1:100 is probably about right but ultimately it could vary hugely depending on what keywords you're using. There is , btw, no problem with direct linking these kind of products, every big content guy I know direct links FBF and TAA and Isabella's program. Sometimes so called review sites only serve to screw the conversions, it completely depends on what keywords you used and how you got them there initially. I would say however in your case CB had some nasty payment error. I was almost tempted to ring them about it myself after getting the 4th complaint on our helpdesk.

03-04-2010, 03:42 PM	#7
ben565 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 256 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? why did you not set a daily limit? then you wouldn't have burned through $1200

03-06-2010, 08:46 PM	#10
rebiller Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? My entire company is built around paid traffic, and google is the smallest % of it. I'm not very good with search, but because of complaints DSP and FBF have generated by publishers, google have stopped new advertisers from advertising on the content network it seems. So search is my only option, and day two of running resulted in $1k spend with just $60 in fun, fun, fun. I personally see a lot of potential in these video presell products, but I also see where a lot of improvements can be made. So I've got my team to recreate a similar product with some endorsements and our own processing system. Thanks for the input anyway everyone.

03-06-2010, 10:34 PM	#11
mikkosant Senior Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California Posts: 517 Thanks: 21 Thanked 89 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? I don't mean to jump on the clickbank tracking sucks theme, but this week has been unusually odd for one of my sites. It regularly makes sales, then the last week or two has only made 1 sale, yet more order form submits and more traffic to my site due to a higher serp. Is 1200 a regular daily budget for you? I hope this order form submit nonsense get worked out very soon. I'm thinking about just creating the my own product and go directly through paypal. Surely the sales will be increased, but then again, that's a ton of work. I hope this get figured out and thanks for bringing it up.

11-25-2010, 01:21 AM	#13
Nanville Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Diet Solution Program website selling Fat Burning Furnace with site owner's ID? I'm new here and I don't know if I'm doing the right thing posting here. I'm thinking of promoting The Diet Solution Program but I noticed that the owners of the website are promoting 2 products: Fat Burning Furnace and Final Phase Fat Loss with their Clickbank IDs! Anybody notice this?

11-25-2010, 05:11 PM	#14
jmaresca2005 Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke? contact your AM right away. there could be an issue with the advertisers merchant account.