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Old 07-14-2011, 07:46 AM   #1
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Default Does email/zip submit offer scam?

I am newbie to cpa+ppv. Just my newbie question here:
Is there anyone here who competed some offer and really get a free iPad 2?
If nobody, there is another question:

There are too many guys recommend to build opt-in listing and send offers to the subscribers. If the person find he can't get free ipad 2 at all, how would him/her submit email in our comming offers?

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It would impossible for the backend company to actually provide each person that enters their email address with an i-Pad 2 or whatever product is being featured. If you look at the email submit offers, most have extra terms below the fold that consumers rarely look at. Below is an example:


† THE FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. SEE TERMS FOR COMPLETE DETAILS. Members are being accepted subject to the following Program Requirements: 1) Must be a legal US resident; 2) must be at least 18 years old or older; 3) must have a valid email and shipping address; 4) Eligible members can receive the incentive gift package by completing two reward offers from each of the Top, Prime and Premium reward offer page options. Various types of reward offers are available. Completion of reward offers most often requires a purchase or filing a credit application and being accepted for a financial product such as a credit card or consumer loan. The following link illustrates a Representative Sample of reward offers by group along with monetary and non-monetary obligations. Failure to submit accurate registration information will result in loss of eligibility. This promotion is administered solely by this website. The manufacturers and retailers of the gift items offered through our programs have not endorsed this promotion and are not affiliated with the promotion in anyway. This promotion is not valid to residents of Washington state and is void where prohibited by law. Please read the Terms and Conditions for complete program details. Your information will be shared with our marketing partners. Please read the Privacy Policy for more details.


I personally dont know anyone that has received a free I-Pad from filling out an offer. And as far as the opt-in list and sending the consumers other emails promoting other offers. They already took the time to fill out an offer and enter their email, they're willing to enter information, they saw something they liked. And you dont have to continue sending them email submit offers when you blast out emails. They entered their email to get something for free, that's valuable information. You could send them daily deal offers like Groupon / Living Social. They are most likely interested in anything having to do with discounts, saving money, ETC.

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Eligible members can receive the incentive gift package by completing two reward offers from each of the Top, Prime and Premium reward offer page options. Various types of reward offers are available. Completion of reward offers most often requires a purchase or filing a credit application and being accepted for a financial product such as a credit card or consumer loan.
They not give ipad or anything else for free. You need to complete their offer to receive gift from them.

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Don't trust on Opt-in's.. they do lie sometimes when there are not earning money. They do make money from Opt-ins.
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It would impossible for the backend company to actually provide each person that enters their email address with an i-Pad 2 or whatever product is being featured. If you look at the email submit offers, most have extra terms below the fold that consumers rarely look at. Below is an example:


† THE FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. SEE TERMS FOR COMPLETE DETAILS. Members are being accepted subject to the following Program Requirements: 1) Must be a legal US resident; 2) must be at least 18 years old or older; 3) must have a valid email and shipping address; 4) Eligible members can receive the incentive gift package by completing two reward offers from each of the Top, Prime and Premium reward offer page options. Various types of reward offers are available. Completion of reward offers most often requires a purchase or filing a credit application and being accepted for a financial product such as a credit card or consumer loan. The following link illustrates a Representative Sample of reward offers by group along with monetary and non-monetary obligations. Failure to submit accurate registration information will result in loss of eligibility. This promotion is administered solely by this website. The manufacturers and retailers of the gift items offered through our programs have not endorsed this promotion and are not affiliated with the promotion in anyway. This promotion is not valid to residents of Washington state and is void where prohibited by law. Please read the Terms and Conditions for complete program details. Your information will be shared with our marketing partners. Please read the Privacy Policy for more details.

I personally dont know anyone that has received a free I-Pad from filling out an offer. And as far as the opt-in list and sending the consumers other emails promoting other offers. They already took the time to fill out an offer and enter their email, they're willing to enter information, they saw something they liked. And you dont have to continue sending them email submit offers when you blast out emails. They entered their email to get something for free, that's valuable information. You could send them daily deal offers like Groupon / Living Social. They are most likely interested in anything having to do with discounts, saving money, ETC.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for your words.
I know there are many survey/free trial to complete to get the free gift. My question is whether it is true to get ipad/walmart gift card if the visitor complete all the survey/trial that requred?
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:45 AM   #6
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Really tough to give a yes or no answer, depends on how the company on the back end goes about their business. I know people that have received gift cards from filling out multiple offers though, but I'd think you find it's more common for consumers NOT to recieve anything compared to those lucky ones that actually get the GC or whatever is being offered.
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won't consumers get wise to this soon? It's funny the advertiser moaning the leads are not backing out when they are running a complete lie...how ironic!
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Well I'm not accusing all advertisers of doing that, just sharing my experiences. I'm sure there are many advertisers that make good on their promises.
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I am newbie to cpa+ppv. Just my newbie question here:
Is there anyone here who competed some offer and really get a free iPad 2?
If nobody, there is another question:

There are too many guys recommend to build opt-in listing and send offers to the subscribers. If the person find he can't get free ipad 2 at all, how would him/her submit email in our comming offers?

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Not scam but shady. Email submits have always been pretty shady in my opinion.

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There are always extra terms and offers you must complete to receive the item being offered. It is never just an email submit. This is called path traffic.
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Don't trust on Opt-in's.. they do lie sometimes when there are not earning money. They do make money from Opt-ins.
Sorry i disagree, once they get your email address expect occasional emails with more Bs offers, and everytime someone goes back and does it again they make money.

Not to mention i am sure they sell these emails to other advertisers. Just Google Email list and you will be surprised how many you can buy.

I personally think they are scam. I have never heard or seen proof of them giving anything away.

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There are always extra terms and offers you must complete to receive the item being offered. It is never just an email submit. This is called path traffic.
Its called hook line and sinker traffic, If the term text got any smaller id have to go back to the old 800 x 600 screen lol

1st Class is looking for affiliates that meet these restrictions on our Publishers page
Generate 50+ Leads a day in Credit Reports will pay $29.00 per lead and weekly
Generate 50+ Leads a day in 1st page Email Submits will pay $1.75 per lead And weekly
After initial Net 15 quality trial
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:51 PM   #12
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It's like playing the lotto to most of these people. They know they will most likely lose, but it's the thrill of possibly winning. Somewhat like bidding .02 cents on an I-Pad in hopes no one will outbid you.

Internet Marketers aren't the only ones in search of the "shiny new" objects.

Yes, they are extremely shady.

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won't consumers get wise to this soon? It's funny the advertiser moaning the leads are not backing out when they are running a complete lie...how ironic!

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I personally dont know anyone that has received a free I-Pad from filling out an offer. And as far as the opt-in list and sending the consumers other emails promoting other offers. They already took the time to fill out an offer and enter their email, they're willing to enter information, they saw something they liked. And you dont have to continue sending them email submit offers when you blast out emails. They entered their email to get something for free, that's valuable information. You could send them daily deal offers like Groupon / Living Social. They are most likely interested in anything having to do with discounts, saving money, ETC.

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Steve, could you go into more detail about sending daily deal offers/discounts to an email list and making money from it?

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