No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now!

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 09:58 AM

Hey gang,

Check this out:

Make Money Online - Working From Home Doing Simple Typing and Data Entry

DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT ORDER THIS!

But, check out where you are sent after you click the "Click Here To Get Yours Now" link.

The guy on the site's name is Kevin, yet the site is registered to a David.

Tell me this isn't blatant and outright fraud?

It's folks like this that give all of us a bad name in this business.

Scot

NetMediaGeek · 05-09-2009, 10:05 AM

Yeah i've seen that Google Cash knocking about, kevin is sometimes a different person and name, its a continuity con !!!!!!!!!!!

uwa223 · 05-09-2009, 10:52 AM

You do NOT have to be a deceiver to make money with cpa. Honest marketers do very well. You hardly ever hear of a white hat marketer having problem with their network.

Robert Oliver · 05-09-2009, 11:21 AM

I live in Waco, Tx.

Looked up names in the phone book.

Nowhere to be found.

Buyer beware.

Robert

p2y · 05-09-2009, 11:32 AM

What may surprise you is that the CPA networks WOULD BE HAPPY for you to use a landing page like that, because the conversion rates are very, very, very good. When networks see landing pages like those, they don't decline the application, they simply ask "can you do it for our other offers too?". The networks aren't so innocent.

Dimension · 05-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

Hey gang,

Check this out:

Make Money Online - Working From Home Doing Simple Typing and Data Entry

DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT ORDER THIS!

But, check out where you are sent after you click the "Click Here To Get Yours Now" link.

The guy on the site's name is Kevin, yet the site is registered to a David.

Tell me this isn't blatant and outright fraud?

It's folks like this that give all of us a bad name in this business.

Scot

Its a ''Flog'' (fake blog)

KevinHoeffer · 05-09-2009, 12:05 PM

Hey Guys my bro David just told me about this thread.

Not quite sure what the issue is - I made a blog to tell people about how I make money using google. Thats what you guys do - maybe its the fact that you have to pay 1.97 to get instant access and you cannot afford 2 bucks or something...

Either way Good luck bros.

Kevin

Robert Oliver · 05-09-2009, 12:17 PM

Kevin,

Just curious. Which pipe company in Waco,Tx. did
you get laidoff from as an accountant?

Robert

KevinHoeffer · 05-09-2009, 12:29 PM

Hey it was Pioneer Steel

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 12:36 PM

Hey Kevin,

Just out of curiosity, why is the domain registered to someone from the UK if you live in Texas?

If this is a legitimate offer I will publicly apologize in this thread, but it just looked extremely fishy at first glance.

What is the link to the program Google does this with?

I've been in this business a heck of a long time, have made hundreds of thousands off Google in the past and I've never seen it, who knows, if it's legit I'd sign up under you

Scot

Robert Oliver · 05-09-2009, 12:42 PM

Near Elm Mott?

They were looking for a saleman several months
ago through an employment agency. I almost applied.

Then bam went the economy. Drive by there everday.

Robert

KevinHoeffer · 05-09-2009, 12:51 PM

Hey Scott,

No offence taken man. Trust me I have seen so many scams and crappy things on the internet that I was dubious at first too

To answer your question - My bro lives in the UK - he set my blog up for me. When I say I know very little about computers and setting up websites I really mean it lol.

To answer your other question yes it is legit - I am not quite at your level of money making with google (yet

) but I am earning about $5k a month using this system. Trust me man if I can make that amount without having too many computer skills then someone who knows about internet marketing would totally kill it with this system.

I give it my thumbs up and for the price - like less than 2 bucks - you really cant go wrong with it.

No need for an apology man - I understand that you got the wrong end of the stick.

Cheers

Kevin

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 12:52 PM

Can you point me to the program Google does this through?

Scot

dorim · 05-09-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinHoeffer

Hey Guys my bro David just told me about this thread.

Not quite sure what the issue is - I made a blog to tell people about how I make money using google. Thats what you guys do - maybe its the fact that you have to pay 1.97 to get instant access and you cannot afford 2 bucks or something...

Either way Good luck bros.

Kevin

Do you really live in South Berwick Maine like it says on your blog? Also you are stating two different jobs you lost in the last few months, one version says you were an accountant in South Berwick and the other version says you were an account rep. Both very different jobs. Is your blog just some boilerplate blog everyone is this game uses? If you are legit and this sytem is legit I want to meet you because I live ten miles from South Berwick Maine. What manufacturing company did you lose your job from? Where in South Berwick Maine did you work as an accountant?

"My name is Kevin Hoeffer. I live in South Berwick, ME . I have been married 3 years to Audrey. I lost my job as a boring account rep for a manufacturing company a few months back."

Hey, my name is Kevin and welcome to my blog. I worked as an accountant in South Berwick, ME and lost my job three months ago.

KevinHoeffer · 05-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Hey Scot - you can get instant access to the program by following any of the links on my blog.

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:14 PM

Man, that pipe company must go through a lot of employees, here is another guy that had the same exact job:

Eric Makes Money

Interesting

Scot

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Look at these sites, they look like the one Kevin Hoeffer is pushing, only he lives in different states and has different pics of himself and his wife.
http://www.libertycn.com/
Earn Google Cash Online - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google
Harry Makes Money!
Make Up To $5,000 a Month - iptvmovies.info
Would You Like to Make $5,000 a Month Posting a Link on Google?
RyansRoadToRiches.com
Kevin Gets Green - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google

Google these words and see all the sites that come up: So, I took an extremely low paying job as an account manager at a ... with all the interest fees and late payments our balance never went down

Steve Taylor · 05-09-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john7334

I clicked on this Kevin guy's link, and it says he lives in Oak Park, MI. I live in Michigan, too. So, he must have some kind of gadget that finds a local city based on who is clicking the link.

Yeah, same here. I'm in Vancouver and his link says he's from Vancouver...

I guess it's a google app that reads your IP.

-Steve

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:18 PM

And then there is this:

Facebook took ads for get-rich-quick scam - web - Technology - smh.com.au

Scot

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john7334

I clicked on this Kevin guy's link, and it says he lives in Oak Park, MI. I live in Michigan, too. So, he must have some kind of gadget that finds a local city based on who is clicking the link.

No, he lives in San Jose, Calif.

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john7334

I clicked on this Kevin guy's link, and it says he lives in Oak Park, MI. I live in Michigan, too. So, he must have some kind of gadget that finds a local city based on who is clicking the link.

He should do his research better before picking out towns to claim citizenship in, South Berwick Maine has no manufacturing, in fact the town has about 5,000 people. He's be hard pressed to even find a job as an accountant there, its all mom and pop shops......

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:25 PM

Here's a few more:

Mark’s Got Cash — How to blog

Jay Got Money Blog

Same exact check on two different guys sites, and one has him as a Mark Hoeffer, not Kevin.

Scot

getinmoney · 05-09-2009, 01:26 PM

hahaha. Kevin you should be ashamed of yourself to come in to the Warrior Forum and to try to scam us. But the guys but you back i your place. I think you should be banned now.

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

And then there is this:

Facebook took ads for get-rich-quick scam - web - Technology - smh.com.au

Scot

I think we've seen the last of Kevin Hoeffer here, he should be banned forever.

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:31 PM

Here is the same check and the guys name is Jeremy, same wedding pick as one of the other guys too:

JeremyMadeCash.com :: Make Money At Home Online

Scot

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:34 PM

And then came Bill:

Bill Gets Money - How I Make $5,000 a month from Google

This thing is massive.

Scot

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:34 PM

Hey Kevin, there are many legit ways to make money, just spend some time reading this forum. You don't have to lie, cheat and scam people. You'll make more money doing it honestly than they way you are doing it and you'll be able to sleep at night.

Steve Taylor · 05-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

Here is the same check and the guys name is Jeremy, same wedding pick as one of the other guys too:

JeremyMadeCash.com :: Make Money At Home Online

Scot

Hey Scot...I wouldn't want to get you on my tail

Nice piece of research.

-Steve

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

And then came Bill:

Bill Gets Money - How I Make $5,000 a month from Google

This thing is massive.

Scot

Hey that's Kevin and his wife Audrey in that picture!

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:36 PM

We need a special category for scams, to warn other warriors.

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Taylor

Hey Scot...I wouldn't want to get you on my tail

Nice piece of research.

-Steve

LOL, it wasn't really that tough, but thanks.

When he showed up here he had me feeling guilty for a minute thinking I posted a false accusation, but I guess my initial gut instant was right.

Scot

getinmoney · 05-09-2009, 01:45 PM

I think it should start being harder to get in to the warrior forum.

dorim · 05-09-2009, 01:49 PM

Here's another scam to beware of:
BethsMoney Discussed

danhughes · 05-09-2009, 01:54 PM

He lives in Waco Texas?? Hmm... that's interesting... When I go there it tells me Kevin lives in Cary NC.... which oddly is the same town I live in... I wonder if it has anything to do with the script he is using

:

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">My name is Kevin Hoeffer. I live in <scrXXt type="text/javascript" src="http://www.google.com/jsapi"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> if (typeof(google.loader.ClientLocation.address.city) != null) { document.write(google.loader.ClientLocation.addres s.city +", " +google.loader.ClientLocation.address.region); } else { document.write("Unknown location")

Oh... wait maybe his name is not Kevin.... maybe it's Jenny. Jenny seems to have had really good luck with wrinkle cream too
Lose Your Wrinkles With Lift SP, Resveratrol and Belisi and Regain Confidence Today!

and Colon Cleansing
Weightloss

and Green Tea
Green Tea Purity

and Google Fast Cash
Google Payday

Hang on a Second..... Maybe his name is Kyle
Google Image Result for http://www.kylesforeclosurestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/france-vacation.jpg

OK... this is getting confusing... Maybe his name is Kevin... but it looks like he got that check from a system by Joel Comm Kevins Grant Blog - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google

Oh dang! Different name again... this time it's Steve
Google

OK, OK... Descission time.... Hmm, I'm gonna go with his name being David, Dave to his friends. Unfortunaelty he hasn't had time to upload a phone to facebook yet
Dave Martin | Facebook

That's ok though... heres one of him at a company party in london... he's the guy on the left hand side of the back row:
http://www.lylebailie.com/newsimages/IPA_2008.jpg

Gabe77 · 05-09-2009, 02:01 PM

Thanks guys for bringing this up. Looks like this Kevin guy or whatever his or her name is, is everywhere!

greenovni · 05-09-2009, 02:53 PM

I probably be flamed for this but isn't this the same marketing that goes on on TV, radio, infomercials, news sites etc?

Fake testimonials, fake stories (In college is called: Art of Story telling) etc

While we as marketers KNOW that every single thing on that page is fake and designed to have as many people as possible sign up for his CPA offer we have to give him /her /it credit.

He has been able to capitalize on a ton of traffic, has taken action and it's making something happen.

Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint.

I am just like you
I also am married (shows stability and responsability)
These are my children
I used to work at a place I hated
I got fired
I was desperate for a while
I found this and for only $2.00 you cant go wrong.
Now I am so happy to have paid all my bills
and you can too!!!

While I do not market like that, I know a bunch of warriors that do.
(unless you're only into 1 niche)

dorim · 05-09-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenovni

I probably be flamed for this but isn't this the same marketing that goes on on TV, radio, infomercials, news sites etc?

Fake testimonials, fake stories (In college is called: Art of Story telling) etc

While we as marketers KNOW that every single thing on that page is fake and designed to have as many people as possible sign up for his CPA offer we have to give him /her /it credit.

He has been able to capitalize on a ton of traffic, has taken action and it's making something happen.

Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint.

I am just like you
I also am married (shows stability and responsability)
These are my children
I used to work at a place I hated
I got fired
I was desperate for a while
I found this and for only $2.00 you cant go wrong.
Now I am so happy to have paid all my bills
and you can too!!!

While I do not market like that, I know a bunch of warriors that do.
(unless you're only into 1 niche)

Creating fake details to promote a legit business is completely different than creating fake details to perpetuate a scam.

danhughes · 05-09-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorim

Creating fake details to promote a legit business is completely different than creating fake details to perpetuate a scam.

Whoa! Define scam! I can think of a bunch of techniques I have used successfully that many people have called scams. If you asked the average non IM person to come and look at this site, the vast majority would say that it's all a scam.

@ greenovni

Far from flaming you, I actually agree with you. His central technique was good, but he went about it in a very wrong way.

What the guy inadvertently did was create a brand. It really wouldn't have been that hard to have been honest in his story telling and been much more successful.

I'm am 100% certain that David has a lot of similar stories to the fake ones that are actually real. The fake pictures he posted actaully look a lot like his real picture (the last one in my other post). There are SO many biz-op / make money programs to pick from I have no idea why people insist on writing fake reviews for crappy products. Buy some products... or call product creators and ask them for a comp. Review it and post the story. It's *exactally* the same thing, but 100% legitimate.

If David would have done that he would now have a very strong brand he could be proud of and we would all be here congratulating him.

**This is the real technique that all 'Gurus' use, every single one of them. Think how much the Kern brand or Filsaime brand are worth now! All of them were / are just an honest version of Kevin / David**

greenovni · 05-09-2009, 04:47 PM

dorim: The problem is that EVERY ONE likes to throw the word scam around. It is not a scam, it is actually a FORCED CONTINUITY product like the hundreds out there including the As seen on TV products.

danhughes: If he would have sticked to 1 story, 1 picture he would be getting the congratulations of each and every one of us.

Funny that there are times that a lot of warriors write these reviews without even looking at the product and then throw stones right through their glass houses.

Now, what I ask myself - even as his brand is "tarnished" is he still making a ton of $$$?

Ant West · 05-09-2009, 05:35 PM

Hey all , my uncle fell for this scam

once you sign up after so long it charges you $97 per month and it's very hard to cancel the subscription if you read the terms on the site it's in very i mean very small writing out of a huge terms and conditions page

you notice he aint replying anymore

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenovni

dorim: The problem is that EVERY ONE likes to throw the word scam around. It is not a scam, it is actually a FORCED CONTINUITY product like the hundreds out there including the As seen on TV products.

danhughes: If he would have sticked to 1 story, 1 picture he would be getting the congratulations of each and every one of us.

Funny that there are times that a lot of warriors write these reviews without even looking at the product and then throw stones right through their glass houses.

Now, what I ask myself - even as his brand is "tarnished" is he still making a ton of $$$?

NetMediaGeek · 05-09-2009, 05:44 PM

Scamtastic My Man.........

Fox30 · 05-09-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenovni

dorim: The problem is that EVERY ONE likes to throw the word scam around. It is not a scam, it is actually a FORCED CONTINUITY product like the hundreds out there including the As seen on TV products.

danhughes: If he would have sticked to 1 story, 1 picture he would be getting the congratulations of each and every one of us.

Funny that there are times that a lot of warriors write these reviews without even looking at the product and then throw stones right through their glass houses.

Now, what I ask myself - even as his brand is "tarnished" is he still making a ton of $$$?

I completely agree with all of your comments!

Scot Standke · 05-09-2009, 06:24 PM

Hmmmm,

Click the original link I supplied in this thread...

Seems he set up a redirect to MSN

Forced continuity or not, I can assure you that using fake testimonials and pictures is a serious no-no.

Here's another site using the same crap:

Jesse's Gets Green blog, How I got 12k in 30 days.

Same story, exact same testimonials, different city, different name, same exact story.

Scot

dorim · 05-09-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenovni

dorim: The problem is that EVERY ONE likes to throw the word scam around. It is not a scam, it is actually a FORCED CONTINUITY product like the hundreds out there including the As seen on TV products.?

How is what this guy is doing Forced Continuity; isn't that a definition of a monthly membership site?

How do you know he's not running a scam? Does he deliver a product for the $1.97 shipping? A product that has worth and value?

JimWay · 05-09-2009, 07:58 PM

I have to say this thread was really funny. I thought it was a joke at first. No offence to anyone by the way, but these have been around for a good while. If you don’t look at the title and know that is a cpa rebill offer then I don’t think you have seen the inside of any cpa network. You have to give "kevin" credit though for coming on here and trying to get a couple extra conversions lol.

Not saying i agree with this marketing strategy. But yes log in to any cpa network and you will see tons of the same rebills. Even if you market these in a "ethical" way, you still have to deal with scammy advertisers ripping people off rebilling them over and over. So in that case stay away from rebill offers.

OH and when you promote a email submit offer there email will be getting passed around and spammed so much they won’t know what hit them so stay away from those too.

And the auto lead you are pushing, well now that person will be getting called by up to 8 Companies over and over until they are so sick and tired of calls they change there number. STAY AWAY FROM CPA.

Ok enough joking, just wanted to lighten up this thread and hopefully make some people laugh. Yes being ethical is very high in my book, but sometimes you just have to laugh at what people do and fall for and keep on keepin on.

cot1 · 05-10-2009, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the info.

Kyle L Hannah · 05-10-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinHoeffer

Hey Scot - you can get instant access to the program by following any of the links on my blog.

....LOL...

POTPOLITICS.COM · 05-10-2009, 04:24 PM

Stone cold busted

greenovni · 05-10-2009, 05:28 PM

Re-billing monthly and hiding it in some very small print = forced continuity

Tony Vercetti · 05-11-2009, 12:30 AM

Well I dont really see what all the fuss is about this site. It is simply a fake blog or fake review site, which are very very commonly used in promoting CPA offers such as the "Make Money with Google!" stuff, government grants, etc.
Yes, the stories, pictures and testimonials are probably fake, but these tactics are also widely used to promote ebooks like the ones on Clickbank, with salespages full off hype and stock photos of Ferrari cars, yachts, mansions that the author claims are his, and that he makes $1000000 a day "putting links on Google".

05-09-2009, 09:58 AM	#1
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey gang, Check this out: Make Money Online - Working From Home Doing Simple Typing and Data Entry DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT ORDER THIS! But, check out where you are sent after you click the "Click Here To Get Yours Now" link. The guy on the site's name is Kevin, yet the site is registered to a David. Tell me this isn't blatant and outright fraud? It's folks like this that give all of us a bad name in this business. Scot
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05-09-2009, 10:05 AM	#2
NetMediaGeek Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 508 Thanks: 18 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Yeah i've seen that Google Cash knocking about, kevin is sometimes a different person and name, its a continuity con !!!!!!!!!!!

05-09-2009, 10:52 AM	#3
uwa223 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Land of the Free! Posts: 417 Thanks: 40 Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! You do NOT have to be a deceiver to make money with cpa. Honest marketers do very well. You hardly ever hear of a white hat marketer having problem with their network.

05-09-2009, 11:21 AM	#4
Robert Oliver Corporate Sales Pro War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas, USA. Posts: 920 Thanks: 11 Thanked 135 Times in 99 Posts Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I live in Waco, Tx. Looked up names in the phone book. Nowhere to be found. Buyer beware. Robert
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05-09-2009, 12:05 PM	#7
KevinHoeffer Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey Guys my bro David just told me about this thread. Not quite sure what the issue is - I made a blog to tell people about how I make money using google. Thats what you guys do - maybe its the fact that you have to pay 1.97 to get instant access and you cannot afford 2 bucks or something... Either way Good luck bros. Kevin

05-09-2009, 12:17 PM	#8
Robert Oliver Corporate Sales Pro War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas, USA. Posts: 920 Thanks: 11 Thanked 135 Times in 99 Posts Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Kevin, Just curious. Which pipe company in Waco,Tx. did you get laidoff from as an accountant? Robert
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05-09-2009, 12:29 PM	#9
KevinHoeffer Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey it was Pioneer Steel

05-09-2009, 12:36 PM	#10
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey Kevin, Just out of curiosity, why is the domain registered to someone from the UK if you live in Texas? If this is a legitimate offer I will publicly apologize in this thread, but it just looked extremely fishy at first glance. What is the link to the program Google does this with? I've been in this business a heck of a long time, have made hundreds of thousands off Google in the past and I've never seen it, who knows, if it's legit I'd sign up under you Scot
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05-09-2009, 12:42 PM	#11
Robert Oliver Corporate Sales Pro War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas, USA. Posts: 920 Thanks: 11 Thanked 135 Times in 99 Posts Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Near Elm Mott? They were looking for a saleman several months ago through an employment agency. I almost applied. Then bam went the economy. Drive by there everday. Robert
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05-09-2009, 12:51 PM	#12
KevinHoeffer Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey Scott, No offence taken man. Trust me I have seen so many scams and crappy things on the internet that I was dubious at first too To answer your question - My bro lives in the UK - he set my blog up for me. When I say I know very little about computers and setting up websites I really mean it lol. To answer your other question yes it is legit - I am not quite at your level of money making with google (yet ) but I am earning about $5k a month using this system. Trust me man if I can make that amount without having too many computer skills then someone who knows about internet marketing would totally kill it with this system. I give it my thumbs up and for the price - like less than 2 bucks - you really cant go wrong with it. No need for an apology man - I understand that you got the wrong end of the stick. Cheers Kevin

05-09-2009, 12:52 PM	#13
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Can you point me to the program Google does this through? Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:02 PM	#15
KevinHoeffer Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hey Scot - you can get instant access to the program by following any of the links on my blog.

05-09-2009, 01:14 PM	#16
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Man, that pipe company must go through a lot of employees, here is another guy that had the same exact job: Eric Makes Money Interesting Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:16 PM	#17
dorim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 343 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 42 Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Look at these sites, they look like the one Kevin Hoeffer is pushing, only he lives in different states and has different pics of himself and his wife. http://www.libertycn.com/ Earn Google Cash Online - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google Harry Makes Money! Make Up To $5,000 a Month - iptvmovies.info Would You Like to Make $5,000 a Month Posting a Link on Google? RyansRoadToRiches.com Kevin Gets Green - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google Google these words and see all the sites that come up: So, I took an extremely low paying job as an account manager at a ... with all the interest fees and late payments our balance never went down

05-09-2009, 01:18 PM	#19
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! And then there is this: Facebook took ads for get-rich-quick scam - web - Technology - smh.com.au Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:25 PM	#22
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Here's a few more: Mark’s Got Cash — How to blog Jay Got Money Blog Same exact check on two different guys sites, and one has him as a Mark Hoeffer, not Kevin. Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:26 PM	#23
getinmoney Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 125 Thanks: 58 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! hahaha. Kevin you should be ashamed of yourself to come in to the Warrior Forum and to try to scam us. But the guys but you back i your place. I think you should be banned now.

05-09-2009, 01:31 PM	#25
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Here is the same check and the guys name is Jeremy, same wedding pick as one of the other guys too: JeremyMadeCash.com :: Make Money At Home Online Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:34 PM	#26
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! And then came Bill: Bill Gets Money - How I Make $5,000 a month from Google This thing is massive. Scot
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05-09-2009, 01:36 PM	#30
dorim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 343 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 42 Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! We need a special category for scams, to warn other warriors.

05-09-2009, 01:45 PM	#32
getinmoney Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 125 Thanks: 58 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I think it should start being harder to get in to the warrior forum.

05-09-2009, 01:49 PM	#33
dorim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 343 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 42 Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Here's another scam to beware of: BethsMoney Discussed

05-09-2009, 01:54 PM	#34
danhughes Bullsh*t Vigilante War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cary, NC, USA. Posts: 112 Thanks: 10 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! He lives in Waco Texas?? Hmm... that's interesting... When I go there it tells me Kevin lives in Cary NC.... which oddly is the same town I live in... I wonder if it has anything to do with the script he is using : <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">My name is Kevin Hoeffer. I live in <scrXXt type="text/javascript" src="http://www.google.com/jsapi"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> if (typeof(google.loader.ClientLocation.address.city) != null) { document.write(google.loader.ClientLocation.addres s.city +", " +google.loader.ClientLocation.address.region); } else { document.write("Unknown location") Oh... wait maybe his name is not Kevin.... maybe it's Jenny. Jenny seems to have had really good luck with wrinkle cream too Lose Your Wrinkles With Lift SP, Resveratrol and Belisi and Regain Confidence Today! and Colon Cleansing Weightloss and Green Tea Green Tea Purity and Google Fast Cash Google Payday Hang on a Second..... Maybe his name is Kyle Google Image Result for http://www.kylesforeclosurestory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/france-vacation.jpg OK... this is getting confusing... Maybe his name is Kevin... but it looks like he got that check from a system by Joel Comm Kevins Grant Blog - How I Make $5,000 a Month Posting Links on Google Oh dang! Different name again... this time it's Steve Google OK, OK... Descission time.... Hmm, I'm gonna go with his name being David, Dave to his friends. Unfortunaelty he hasn't had time to upload a phone to facebook yet Dave Martin \| Facebook That's ok though... heres one of him at a company party in london... he's the guy on the left hand side of the back row: http://www.lylebailie.com/newsimages/IPA_2008.jpg

05-09-2009, 02:01 PM	#35
Gabe77 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 117 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Thanks guys for bringing this up. Looks like this Kevin guy or whatever his or her name is, is everywhere!

05-09-2009, 02:53 PM	#36
greenovni Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,022 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 9 Thanked 95 Times in 42 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I probably be flamed for this but isn't this the same marketing that goes on on TV, radio, infomercials, news sites etc? Fake testimonials, fake stories (In college is called: Art of Story telling) etc While we as marketers KNOW that every single thing on that page is fake and designed to have as many people as possible sign up for his CPA offer we have to give him /her /it credit. He has been able to capitalize on a ton of traffic, has taken action and it's making something happen. Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint. I am just like you I also am married (shows stability and responsability) These are my children I used to work at a place I hated I got fired I was desperate for a while I found this and for only $2.00 you cant go wrong. Now I am so happy to have paid all my bills and you can too!!! While I do not market like that, I know a bunch of warriors that do. (unless you're only into 1 niche)
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05-09-2009, 04:47 PM	#39
greenovni Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,022 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 9 Thanked 95 Times in 42 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! dorim: The problem is that EVERY ONE likes to throw the word scam around. It is not a scam, it is actually a FORCED CONTINUITY product like the hundreds out there including the As seen on TV products. danhughes: If he would have sticked to 1 story, 1 picture he would be getting the congratulations of each and every one of us. Funny that there are times that a lot of warriors write these reviews without even looking at the product and then throw stones right through their glass houses. Now, what I ask myself - even as his brand is "tarnished" is he still making a ton of $$$?
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05-09-2009, 05:44 PM	#41
NetMediaGeek Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 508 Thanks: 18 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Scamtastic My Man.........

05-09-2009, 06:24 PM	#43
Scot Standke Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oshkosh B'Gosh Posts: 1,359 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 41 Thanked 166 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Hmmmm, Click the original link I supplied in this thread... Seems he set up a redirect to MSN Forced continuity or not, I can assure you that using fake testimonials and pictures is a serious no-no. Here's another site using the same crap: Jesse's Gets Green blog, How I got 12k in 30 days. Same story, exact same testimonials, different city, different name, same exact story. Scot
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05-09-2009, 07:58 PM	#45
JimWay Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I have to say this thread was really funny. I thought it was a joke at first. No offence to anyone by the way, but these have been around for a good while. If you don’t look at the title and know that is a cpa rebill offer then I don’t think you have seen the inside of any cpa network. You have to give "kevin" credit though for coming on here and trying to get a couple extra conversions lol. Not saying i agree with this marketing strategy. But yes log in to any cpa network and you will see tons of the same rebills. Even if you market these in a "ethical" way, you still have to deal with scammy advertisers ripping people off rebilling them over and over. So in that case stay away from rebill offers. OH and when you promote a email submit offer there email will be getting passed around and spammed so much they won’t know what hit them so stay away from those too. And the auto lead you are pushing, well now that person will be getting called by up to 8 Companies over and over until they are so sick and tired of calls they change there number. STAY AWAY FROM CPA. Ok enough joking, just wanted to lighten up this thread and hopefully make some people laugh. Yes being ethical is very high in my book, but sometimes you just have to laugh at what people do and fall for and keep on keepin on.

05-10-2009, 03:19 PM	#46
cot1 Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Thanks for the info.

05-10-2009, 04:24 PM	#48
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05-10-2009, 05:28 PM	#49
greenovni Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,022 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 9 Thanked 95 Times in 42 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Re-billing monthly and hiding it in some very small print = forced continuity
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05-11-2009, 12:30 AM	#50
Tony Vercetti HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 117 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Well I dont really see what all the fuss is about this site. It is simply a fake blog or fake review site, which are very very commonly used in promoting CPA offers such as the "Make Money with Google!" stuff, government grants, etc. Yes, the stories, pictures and testimonials are probably fake, but these tactics are also widely used to promote ebooks like the ones on Clickbank, with salespages full off hype and stock photos of Ferrari cars, yachts, mansions that the author claims are his, and that he makes $1000000 a day "putting links on Google".