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Happy With The Google Slap/Dance!!!!!

by turbohips
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Well I'm so happy to know that I'm in another Google slap/dance. For all of you new into SEO please understand that this is a great thing to happen for a website. I recently added around 1000 links over the last 3 days for two of my sites. From experience, I know the dance is actually a good thing. What normally happens is that the search engines see all sorts of new activity, being tons of links pointing to your domain, and then rewards you by placing your site higher in the SERP's. It will probably take a few days for the search engines to figure out the value of my site and then rank me for the various keywords. Not once has this dance affected my sites in a bad way. Every time this has happened I've increased substantially in the SERP.

The reason for this post is due to the fact that I see daily people stressing out about the slap/dance. This is a good thing and I want people to acknowledge the fact. All of the seasoned SEO's will attest to this as being a fact. So rest easy next time you experience this and look forward to your new results within the next few days after the slap/dance.
#dance #google #happy #slap or dance
  • Profile picture of the author mad_hatter_29
    Turbohips,
    I think you're sort of right but for a lot of us who are doing consistent things to rank our sites it is a bit of an annoyance as it means that temporariliy someone who perhaps doesn't deserve to be in front of us in the rankings temporarily gets ahead (although it doesn't last long).

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    • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
      Yes, you will usually see a sudden drastic drop in rankings during a "dance" but it will almost always come back stronger than ever as long as you haven't been doing naughty things to get higher rankings. Keep everything white hat and you have nothing to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnieR
    I think it's important that folks be patient while this is going on as well. I've had sites drop for weeks at a time, only to come back higher.

    Just because your site is in the middle of a G-Dance doesn't mean that you should then increase your SEO efforts to a feverish rate. The last site that I had this happen on, I basically left it alone when it dropped, and, weeks later, I ended up at #3 on page 1 for my targeted keyword, and have stayed there since, getting an average of about 500 visits a day.

    So my advice is be patient, and let it coast, once in a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author jes_bad
    Yes, I am currently in the middle of the dance myself. About 80% of my sites have been bouncing this week. Most of my 1st and 2nd page sites have dropped drastically. I have heard that the google dance is a good thing because the sites will gain in the SERPs. This is re-assuring.

    - Jes
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  • Profile picture of the author turbohips
    Well I'm on a mission to find out if my site can get in the so called sandbox. I highly doubt this actually exists from my own experimentation and others that I've tracked. My goal is to add roughly 10,000 links per month for 4 months straight. I've seen a few other sites add more links than this on a brand new domain and get very high SERP rankings for their keywords along with higher PR than my sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredFarnes
      From what you say, it seems that google may be very large and very stupid.

      Google cannot figure out whether you are gaming the system? Google will reward you for link-spamming, because they have not figured this out?

      Give that some thought, let it sink in for a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    If I were the chief of google I'd just set the algo to give zero credit to any backlinks from a PR n/a page... that would kill many forms of spamming in one shot.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredFarnes
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      If I were the chief of Google I'd just set the algo to give zero credit to any backlinks from a PR n/a page... that would kill many forms of spamming in one shot.
      Is Google smart enough to do that? Or maybe they just don't care about the quality of their search product? Maybe Google doesn't care if you use some software or a couple of $3.00 per hour guys in the far east to fake the value of your website? Hmm, I'll have to think about this some more..

      From what I read above, we can supposedly pump out thousands and thousands of backlinks per week without concern. Google won't catch on that is an unnatural growth, an attempt to manipulate the SERPS... Apparently Google will register all those links and raise the value of your website?

      Wow, it's really that easy to out-smart the big G !

      Hmm......
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      • Profile picture of the author FredFarnes
        Oh-oh, something doesn't add up!!

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...link-work.html
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      • Profile picture of the author searchnology
        Very difficult to do this (in my experience) on new sites without a negative impact but older sites (3 years +) that have shown a history of building backlinks over time won't have an issue. I did the same thing twice with no ill effects and a small bump in SERPs.

        The problem isn't identifying the footprint of this activity but rather sabotage. i.e. If I knew Google would punish this activity I would do some link spamming on my competitor sites constantly.

        Originally Posted by FredFarnes View Post

        Is Google smart enough to do that? Or maybe they just don't care about the quality of their search product? Maybe Google doesn't care if you use some software or a couple of $3.00 per hour guys in the far east to fake the value of your website? Hmm, I'll have to think about this some more..

        From what I read above, we can supposedly pump out thousands and thousands of backlinks per week without concern. Google won't catch on that is an unnatural growth, an attempt to manipulate the SERPS... Apparently Google will register all those links and raise the value of your website?

        Wow, it's really that easy to out-smart the big G !

        Hmm......
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    I'm sure google could do it. I would think that it would be fairly easy to do. If they can determine the PR of a backlink as part of the whole PR pyramid they could filter out n/a backlinks.

    Perhaps they think something like that would be too harsh or would have some results they don't want.

    SEO software can easily spot footprints of certain spammed platforms like vBulletin so there is no reason why google can't do the same.

    However, it all comes down to money and as long as they are making money I don't think we will see anything that really rocks the boat.

    I think the flawed search results and a lot of the spamming methods used actually benefit google financially through adwords and adsense which is why they haven't cracked down harder on these problems.

    They only seem to really come down on niches that don't profit google (porn and pharma) or sites that are really pushing their TOS or are fraudulent and obvious scams.

    my google conspiracy... it's all about the money, not quality SE results.
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  • Profile picture of the author turbohips
    Funny to hear all of the nay sayers when I'm simply conducting an experiment. I won't share my results then. Easy enough for me to do. Silly people here I swear. I was offering free experiment results and I get slammed by newbies LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    nah... we just strayed off topic.

    It should work out as you suspect, your site is bouncing around and should pop back up in a better position.

    Unless, your higher position was a bounce and you've settle down into your natural position.

    I've had it go both ways.

    The worst is when you do get that temporary higher position and it sticks for a couple of weeks, then you slide back down 50 spots. Just when you thought you were there... google treads heavily on your dreams.

    Guess you'll know in a couple of weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author 321sitemonitor.com
    Google do take time to rank a website but slap/dance is something else. It dosen't mean that its a good way for your website to loose potential visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author turbohips
    OK so far I've built up around 5000 links for 4 different websites of mine. All of them have gone through the dance and came back a tad higher. I'm already fairly up there for many keywords so I wasn't expecting to knock off the top players. None of my sites have been sandboxed. I used a site that is 1 year old, 6 months old, 2 months old and 1 week old. So far all of them are still indexed and either dancing or slightly doing better in the SERPs. I've used blogs and forum profiles for link building. I did not ping, RSS, bookmark or make any web 2.0 sites. I wanted to only see what blogs and forums offer for results. I honestly don't feel anything works better than these type of links any way. I'll keep tracking my results and building even more links for all of these pages. So far so good.
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    • Profile picture of the author coops223
      There really is not much they can do other than not give you credit. If all you had to do was link spam to penalize you could take out all your competitors. It's not rocket science guys, some people give these search engines too much credit. I still get way too many off topic, or worthless information returned in the results to think otherwise.
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  • Profile picture of the author sherry_d
    Originally Posted by turbohips View Post

    Well I'm so happy to know that I'm in another Google slap/dance. For all of you new into SEO please understand that this is a great thing to happen for a website. I recently added around 1000 links over the last 3 days for two of my sites.
    I hope you'll be still be saying the same thing if 60 or 90 days down the line, your site is still in sandbox:p
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  • Profile picture of the author turbohips
    Sherry_d,
    No offense but I've seen many posts from you in the past and it's fairly obvious that I have more experience than you in the SEO game. With a comment like that you should get a realization that it's not warranted nor appreciated from people that do this sort of work for a living. I have many websites and they make me a fair amount from most people's standards. Please refrain from making silly comments that seriously do not benefit anyone on this forum. Again, if you bothered to look at my comments I've mentioned that I have tried this experiment on sites well aged over 6 months so this wouldn't be an issue. I've also showed positive results from my experiments in other threads with various techniques similar to this and it's been a benefit to share this with others.

    If anyone else would like to chime in with comments that aren't proven I'll be happy to disregard you as well with proven experiments backed by others in the SEO field for a living.
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