Keyword headache in google keyword tool and market samurai

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A couple of months ago, i wanted to setup some sites, so done some research via google keyword tool and market samurai, and found some decent keywords. I set up a couple of sites, each of which had keywords which were said to generate at least 2000 searches per month, per keyword. At the present time, i've got the sites into the top 3 positions in google, and haven't received anywhere near the perceived traffic i thought i would have. A bit confused, i again researched these keywords in google's external tool, and can see that the search value per month has completely slumped. Each keyword is now reported to generate a little over 100 searches a month.

When i initially researched these keywords, i was aware that sometimes google's keyword tool isn't 100% accurate, so i searched for these keywords over a period of a few days to see if the data presented by google changed at all, which it didn't. It's also the reason why i used market samurai in my keyword research.

I also made sure that they keywords had a consistent search volume per month by looking at the bar chart, which they all had. There not seasonal keywords, and there's no sharp rise or fall in searches according to google's keyword tool, so what gives?

I understand that the data presented by google's tool is an estimate of what they perceive the search volume to be, going by the previous months, but to have such a large decrease in search volumes across the board is a bit disheartening. I've also just done teh same thing for some of my other sites, and their related keywords, and they have exactly the same issue. A massive decrease in the number of estimated searches for the month. I'm talking over 8000 searches a month in one case, to now less than 50. Hopefully the tool is just having a moment at the present time..........
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    That is a huge difference going from 8,000 down to 50. I haven't experienced that myself, but I have had it happen where I have done my keyword research and found a great keyword with few competition, something like 30,000 exact competition. A couple of months later when my site is all set up and still working away on it, I research the numbers again and find that the 30,000 exact competition has climbed to over 700,000 exact competition.

    So my keyword that I thought would be easy to rank for at just 30,000 competition now has a lot more competition to compete with! Luckily I kept going and am now ranking #2 and the search numbers have also increased which is good.

    Search numbers decreasing is a worry and hopefully it will just be a slump and will pick up again. Is it a niche that is a one of temporary niche or is it a constant long term niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author Doubleup
      Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

      That is a huge difference going from 8,000 down to 50. I haven't experienced that myself, but I have had it happen where I have done my keyword research and found a great keyword with few competition, something like 30,000 exact competition. A couple of months later when my site is all set up and still working away on it, I research the numbers again and find that the 30,000 exact competition has climbed to over 700,000 exact competition.

      So my keyword that I thought would be easy to rank for at just 30,000 competition now has a lot more competition to compete with! Luckily I kept going and am now ranking #2 and the search numbers have also increased which is good.

      Search numbers decreasing is a worry and hopefully it will just be a slump and will pick up again. Is it a niche that is a one of temporary niche or is it a constant long term niche?
      That's the thing, it's affecting many niche's across the board, not just one. I've managed to re-do the keyword search again using the tool this morning, and every single one of my keywords for my sites has decreased. All of them massively, some are still at respectable numbers, but a majority are now at figures that don't make it worth the effort in pursuing those sites. Luckily these were all new sites (less than 3 months old) so not much effort has been put into them other than their creation and some backlinking.

      Spot the Ball - cheers. wasn't aware of that forum, i'll take a look now
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      • Profile picture of the author jdwhite
        I mentioned this in my other thread, but the numbers I was tracked dropped from high 6 figure searches down to low 4.

        This is a HUGE event with Google.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheWealthSquad
          Google Keyword Tool: Huge Drop in Search Volume Numbers | RichQuickReview covers this.

          The reality is that Google keyword search information has been wrong for a long time. Is it accurate now? I have no idea but things have changed.
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          • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
            Has anyone noticed the huge discrepancies of the new interface vs. the old interface of GAKT?

            I researched a keyword on the old interface of GAKT that showed my keyword as having 8,100 exact searches locally but then right after I checked out the same keyword using the new interface and it showed 320 exact searches locally for the exact same keyword.

            Which one is correct, the new interface or the old?

            I have a tendency to think the new but I am really not certain.
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            • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
              Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

              Has anyone noticed the huge discrepancies of the new interface vs. the old interface of GAKT?

              I researched a keyword on the old interface of GAKT that showed my keyword as having 8,100 exact searches locally but then right after I checked out the same keyword using the new interface and it showed 320 exact searches locally for the exact same keyword.

              Which one is correct, the new interface or the old?

              I have a tendency to think the new but I am really not certain.
              I prefer the old interface but decided to try the new interface with 10 highly exact searched keywords i had just gotten from the old interface. All 10 had atleast 5000+ exact local search, according to the new GAKT, none of the 10 keywords have exact local searches any higher than 900

              Makes me glad i didnt register the domains, which were all available in atleast one extension (com, net, org) but i guess i will only be glad if its the new GAKT interface that has the accurate data
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          • Profile picture of the author jhonsean
            Originally Posted by TheWealthSquad View Post

            Google Keyword Tool: Huge Drop in Search Volume Numbers | RichQuickReview covers this.

            The reality is that Google keyword search information has been wrong for a long time. Is it accurate now? I have no idea but things have changed.
            Agreed with you, i think google keyword search information is updating its algorithm that's why there's a mistakes or missing in the field, our technology remains unstable it will go on and on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
    There is thread about this at the backlinks forum, its affecting quite a few people who have responded and these numbers are in no way small descrepencies.
    whats going on with googles keyword tool?
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  • Profile picture of the author levmonch
    I would take googles over anything because all of the software take their info from google..
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  • Profile picture of the author jeremynet
    The OLD GKWT is based on estimation for all GOOGLE.com/.co.uk/.. plus others search engine as well. The new GKWT is only traffic from GOOGLE.COM.. This is what I found so far and I've verified the traffic based on #1 ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
      Originally Posted by jeremynet View Post

      The OLD GKWT is based on estimation for all GOOGLE.com/.co.uk/.. plus others search engine as well. The new GKWT is only traffic from GOOGLE.COM..
      Who told you that?
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        • Profile picture of the author jeremynet
          Originally Posted by lawrence58 View Post

          I really don't like using market samurai.
          Me too. I don't rely only only MS itself. Sometimes after MS updated, the data is vary a lot. The best practice is to combine few keyword tools + your own real traffic data.
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      • Profile picture of the author jeremynet
        Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

        Who told you that?
        It is based on my own actual rank #1 traffic for 10 keywords + statements from Google itself. You can search those info in warriorforum. Someone has posted it.

        Believe your own tested data rather than listen to rumors.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
        Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

        Who told you that?
        It has been acknowledged by Google here: Bizarre results between Keyword tool beta and previous interface. 1000 vs. 550000 results!? - AdWords Help
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