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So the big bad 25th came about us and all of our autoblogs we're effected by the Google Farmer Update. See for yourself. Looks like Google is "taking out the trash baby" - and when I say trash, I mean Google is wiping out webmasters and autobloggers that don't have a fricken clue what they are doing. ![]() |
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Well done! I've often dabbled with autoblogs but never got into them wholeheartedly. I'd love to at some point. I currently use lots of my own automated content on some sites to a certain extent so it wouldn't be a huge jump. |
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autoblogs is the worst thing ever!
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hahhaa I know about them. I'm not saying that you can't get traffic from using autoblogs. I just think a lot of people don't use autoblogging responsibly which is why it has caused a whole mess.
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TZ, Can you PM me the links to these, I'd like to see if my theory is consistent with your results. |
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I would have agreed with your statement if you had said; "Lousy rewriting, ugly, poorly coded, badly managed, autoblogs SUCK". | |
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lol maybe i was a little general. Just seen so many horrible autoblogs.
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ahhh yes. It is still early days however as the google dance stabilises we will be able to really see the impacts of the change and what exactly has been targeted in terms of the quality of sites and autoblogging.
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What you CAN see on a Google algo update in the early stage of the "dance" is a small dip, then a recovery, and then WHAMMM!!!! Ouch. NEVER seen an upward trend on dozens of domains like this. My experience tells me that we are going to win. I'll be sure to post these after everything is done and settled. | |
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Hey, 1. How often do you get requests to remove content you have posted on your autoblogs and/or threats concerning that content and/or lawsuits because you don't have permission to post it on your blog? To me, that's a major issue with autoblogs. 2. I know you are an expert and your blogs haven't been touched. I guess the question is what about the people using your system? Do you detail everything you do such that others can replicate your success post google Farmer? Best wishes, Marlon |
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TZ, just read your post "SEO in 2011 – Artificial Linking Is Dead" on your blog and it is EXCELLENT. Thanks! Someone who knows his stuff and is sensible. Stop listening to Matt Cutts - LMAO |
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While your lengthy post on your blog is good, i still need to see "proof" that you can safely ignore anything about SEO and ONLY focus on long quality content. But who knows, maybe you are right. As for your auto blogs, with the exception of the car autoblog i dont think that 10-15 uniques a day are overly impressive, no offense. Such autoblogs (i am sure you know this) make sense if you deplay hundreds of them (which i am sure you did)...but then i ask whether the work effort <--> ROI is really worth it. I personally focus rather on a couple "real" sites and get real traffic, instead of having a zillion blogs which each get a max of 15 uniques/day. (I am not even talking about logistical problems, IP diversity, hosting, domain names costs etc.) Unless you have this highly automated and can deploy a HUGE number of such blogs without all those problems i dont see the sense in this (anymore)..auto blogs are a little "two years ago", IMO. |
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For instance, we've got some blogs getting 700-800 uniques a day and never did a scrap of linking on them - just content. They are page ranked 1 or zero, depending on how old. You don't need create artificial links. When you write one long blog post, or have an automated post with 20 links in it going to other post on your blog, you have just created 20 links. I truly believe that there is widespread mis-information on linking, and I don't trust the so-called experts. I believe Google is judging web sites more and more on content alone, and "linking" has become a red herring. The only linking I see worthy these days is guest blogging. | |
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) is that most all domains take years to really become big earners.But I do know this for a fact. ALL blogs do this if they keep getting content added (the right kind of content). ![]() And, yes 450 or so uniques is not be deal, but when you have 50 or 100 of them it is. Never have to work at creating content on them. | |
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I always make sure each autoblog has an email contact page in the header that says, "please email if you wish to have your feed removed". Once in a blue moon I will get an email asking for removal of a feed - why? They are getting inbound links, once, twice and sometimes three times per post! Don't forget that this autoblogs are phrase rewritten to beat the band. I have people using my original content as well, and I don't care because all of their inbounds links can be seen in Yahoo's Site Explorer, and I'm sure Google see them too. There is no big secret here. We all know that a blog needs regular updates, Google has to see it as "fairly" original, it has to look, and there has to be an internal and external linking system in play. The trick is having a well coded package. It's a combination of plugins (some I coded myself) working in concert, and MOST importantly Google NEVER sees footprints. Every autoblogger systems has trace footprints (by behavior) that have to be considered. Google bots are watching. | |
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Great job!
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Nice graph!
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with the autoblogs its really a number of problem(s), this is why i slowly got away from them and actually let a bunch of domains expire where is simply did not see the "worth". a) as i said above, the "logistics" probably the biggest problem, that is, getting a zillion of truly diverse IPs and domains, deploying the blogs and so forth. I think this is a major obstacle when it comes to 100s of blogs. b) CPU usage of autoblogs and their plugins. (Hosting issues). I had a bunch of autoblogs on my VPS..and some of them are truly "killers". The plugins and the cron jobs and content fetching often put serious strain on all resources - frequently slowing down all other sites. When a site which gets 15 uniques a day uses up most resources on your hosting you start thinking about whether it makes sense ![]() This demands exceptional resources, dedicated hosting etc.. c) The fact that you depend on many hundreds of blogs using the same techniques to make money - because you do NOT know what Google does tomorrow or next week. There is always a likelihood that Google *does* slap you one day...and then you have 100s of sites affected which will ALL be down, de-indexed, penalized whatsoever. This is always possible and you never know what and when it will happen. | |
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I think I found some of your blogs. I don't understand one thing: How anyone can operate an autoblog on shared hosting or anything less than dedicated. |
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"SEO in 2011 – Artificial Linking Is Dead" Link wheels are dead? Since when? I get a lot of traffic from from mine and right after making them, my site went up in the serps. I'm not an expert but with unique content on each site on the link wheel I get results. |
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You had jumps in traffic from day to day without any algo change and if you have been running sites for awhile you know that even for the same time in a month the numbers can fluctuate without any change in the algo. A variety of things can change visitor searches and there really is no daily set search volume you can use as a baseline. Sorry but day after the algo doesn't really say anything. Algos work themselves through a number of crawls not instantly for all sites. Still I think if you do concentrate on content you are on the right track. I just don't think you can draw alot of conclusions based on what you have up. | |
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Just saw this thread after posting in another about this... and probably more relevant here. I'm doing the same thing and the google algo has caused my sites to jump right up and quickly. I don't do any backlinking, marketing or anything... set em up and run cron jobs.. every night. I tried the auto plugins like wprobot3 and got nothing in return. I think they're trash because everyone is using them to scrape the same things. When I sat down and wrote my own php script, things just took off.. every day is earning more. My oldest site is not even 4 months old and I have over 100,000 pages of scraped content and it made $60 by itself this month. I also have to smile when people criticize auto blogging. I read these posts all the time and just laugh. How else can you keep making money online while doing absolutely nothing? Set a site.. and walk away for good. I just went from shared hosting this month to getting a VPS for the first time with a new goal of going from 30+ sites to hundreds this year. |
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Well how about that.. So the truth is Google don't actually want sites with relevant, quality content at all! They want sites filled with poorly re-written stolen content it seems.. Who'd have thought it.. |
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. There is a constant meme these days that says, "autoblogs = bad, or autoblogs = crap".Whatever people feel about them (and I do understand why some folks don't like them), they slave away creating content (a lot of content!) everyday and they earn money with Affiliate programs, Adsense, Chitika, etc. And you are SO RIGHT. Until I did the coding and PHP writing myself to make the autoblogs perform properly, it never really worked. Hell, not long ago I WAS TRASHING autoblogs too because I was so frustrated with all the crappy autoblog systems. I tried 4 different ones and they all sucked bad. Anyway.....we all have choices to make. | |
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The blogs you found are likely blogs of friends of mine that I host for them to give them a way to start for no investment. Uncles, kids, friends. Curious though - why would hosting an autoblog on a shared hosting account be a problem???? | |
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Very interesting thread and info, glad to see that some peeps are sailing the big G dump storm nicely... as long as your content is good, an autoblog is just like any other website, portal, rah rah etc etc, if you are running crappy, duped, boring niche, no idea what you are doing semi or full autoblogs, then G will find you and push you over the cliff in the end lol Good on you Terry keep it up and up! Flip |
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| Agreed. Shared hosting works quite well. Why wouldn't it? Unless you're using that horrible wprobot3 plugin which is incredibly resource abusive. If you're running clean code, an update to the database should take maybe a minute a day.. and that's it.
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| Right - it's doesn't have to be a resource hog at all. All my autoblogs update and pull between 5-6 AM Eastern time when the servers are purring along without stress, AND I only pull new post per feed to stop dups and keep resources down.
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I've seen the same results.. went from #7 to #3 for one site went up to page in in a whole set of keywords for another .. Awesome update google! |
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Just wanted to chime in here as I'm a newbie. My oldest site is only a little over 2 months old. It initially jumped from position 3 to position 1 and then dropped to page 5 today. ![]() But another site that is only 2 weeks old went from page 1 to page 3? That being said the traffic to the site only dropped by about 30% due to all the articles that I've been feeding in and translating. I'm sure that my income is going to drop a bit for the next few weeks, but I'm looking forward to watching the site slide back up to page 1 again! Sean |
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Hey, The objection was brought up that you have to have hundreds of these to get a few that work. So let's hear the truth. To get the $16,000 or whatever a month you're doing, how many autoblogs TOTAL does it really take and how many shared hosting accounts do you gotta have? The objection was brought up that it takes too much time and energy to manage the logistics. So how much time does it really take to deploy and manage them? Finally, the objection was brought up that they only get 15 visitors a day and you showed one that ramped up more than that. Are there numbers as far as how many will go on to get a lot of visitors and how many will just putt along at 15 visitors a day? You may or may not want to address the "stolen content" objection. I thought we'd try to keep this thread constructive. Marlon |
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| TZ, I've always had a bad taste in my mouth about autoblogs because of the "constant meme" you speak of, and therefore I never made one. However, after reading this thread thus far, I kinda wanna dabble with autoblogs myself now. Any recommendations on getting started with one, since many are saying that a lot of the popular autoblog programs/plugins are crap?
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I have normal blogs we manage that make $4000-$4200 this month. This is our busy season starting this month. Autoblogs was just a 3 year experiment that worked. My wife has her own little empire. She also still plays the PPC game. Yech! Stolen content. Email link for those who want their feed removed. I can deploy one of these in under an hour, and the phrase rewriting takes about 3 hours - rewriting has to be done by niche. Then I'm done forever. | |
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TZ everything you said is inspiring, hoping to get like you one day. Thanks for everything. |
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The only reason I may build BLs is to take somebody out who has built an OVERLY ridiculous amt of crappy BLs but has lousy on-page SEO compared to me otherwise why bother?! My T&E is better off spent doing on-site SEO etc. I guess it goes to show you that once the herd all starts doing the same thing its no longer effective or a good idea. that could very well be what is or will soon be happening to the manufactured backlinking craze. I even get the sense that RSS and Social BMing and pinging is slowly losing its effectiveness too! btw, with your course are there any other expenses involved like buying plugins etc? I'd like to add auto-blogging to my portfolio/empire - the more diversified I am the better. | |
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I provide and entire WP upload installation with all code tweaks, and plugins already onboard. The PDF guides the setup for Cpanel, Wordpress, and the autoblog in it's function from re-writing, cronning, and feed scheduling. | |
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But I must say that with the right combination, I found that you can indeed create an auto-blog with quality content that is not a resource hog. You definitely have to tweak and tune them and in this regard, you have to know what you are doing, but it's definitely possible. I have had them in sports and gaming. I found that adding unique content to them occasionally was a welcome boost. Heck, the sports niche auto-blog I set up I found myself visiting just to visit it and read the content and watch the videos so I know that if done correctly, they can be QUITE effective and useful. Its all about what you put into it. The truth of the matter is...most people don't know how to set them up and they crash and burn...hard. You have to be a perfectionist to set up auto-blogs IMO and most people aren't. The ones I set up I didn't use software or plugins for. I set up a Wordpress blog and then coded the rest myself using Java and PHP. They looked and functioned great. Actually, this thread is starting to make me want to build some more of them. | |
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If you really want to fire up an autoblog, use the CSV-IMPORT plugin for Wordpress, setup an excel spreadsheet, write your brains out for one day, import, and done. Scheduled org content that trickles and mingles in with the feeds. BUT, if you set up re-writing thoroughly, it's not necessary. | |
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Interesting testing on a hot topic TZ, thanks for the informative post. Guest Blogging is currently one of my favorite link building methods and I plan to continue with it. Same with article marketing. My sense is Google will adjust to maintain good quality content findable by searchers even if some short term bumps show up on their way to the goal. They have to show useful results or they will just plain be out of business. They do know this. Crappy spun content and articles written by people with poor writing skills probably never was as useful as some would say. One catchy post or article title with useful information by itself will build more links than a couple hours of pushing junk all over the net. |
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- column 1 = title - column 2 = post etc. etc. Categories created and comments if you want (I don't). Most important is the schedule column so you can control the schedule of the posts. Each import schedules 100% original content in seperate posts. NOT mixed with feed posts. Separate. | |
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| No. This process is just what can be done to spice up an autoblog, or ANY blog with 100% unique micro articles. 100% original, because you wrote it. Take a look at the "Answer sites"....many of the searches they rank for don't even have an answer, and often the answer is one sentence. The only spinning on an autoblog is on the content pulled from feeds - rewritten. Two different types of content melded. Keep in mind you don't have to do this to make an autoblog work. WordPress › CSV Importer « WordPress Plugins |
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yeah the "answer sites" is a great way to promote your site. So many poor or short answers to questions. Or none at all. Adding great value by placing a good answer there and pointer back to your niche site/page for more info. I use askville for my Amazon review sites...what a field day! TZ,just placed an order for your course...why re-invent the wheel?! lol |
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| Terry Zulit Auto-Blog Formula - A CUSTOM WP auto-blog that ACTUALLY gets traffic, PHRASE and WORD rewriting to source code - Google caches ALL posts. See Adsense earning screenshot | ||
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