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Hey I'm planning on writing two articles, spin it to a few hundreds variations (proofread) and submit them to top article directories. How would you recommend me on submitting those articles? Should I submit the 2 articles manually to two random top article directory? And automatically submit the rest via a tool? (one article in one directory). Do this every month --> 250 backlinks a month. Or do you think I could hire someone who could do this but instead of automatically submitting the articles, submitting them manually spread out over a period of time?? Would this be a better approach? How much would I pay him per month to submit, for example, 250 articles per month (8-9 articles per day) Thanks. |
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Better is to do manually either submit yourself or hire some one, but best would be to do it manually.
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Manually is allways better as you willget a much higher success rate. Weather you do it your self or pay someone is entirely up to you.
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Hmm okay so how much will someone charge me for submitting ~8-9 articles per day? For a whole month?
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Personally, I always manually submit my spun articles to the top 10-20 article directories myself (over about 2-3 days) and use Article Marketing Robot to do the rest.
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manually submit article this is good step by step you can use ezinearticles.com this is good
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manual article submission is the best the automatic article submission. i can always submit article manually.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm getting more ideas. Another question: do you create multiple account when you submit articles? For example, let's say I submit an article to ezine. Should I create a 2nd account to submit my other article? btw what will be an approximation cost for outsourcing? I just want to know if it'll fit in my budget to actually outsource article submission. |
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I agree with the others; use both manual and an auto submit tool. Do the high PR directories manually. This gets much higher success rate. I've tried loads of auto submit tools and truth is their % succesfull submissions are rarely above 50%. This is not good for High PR directories as a link from them is worth much more than 10 low pr direcotries. But time is also an issue, so use the auto submit tool for the lower pr direcotires, you'll get about 50% success rate but it's no big deal becasue the links from these sites arent that importnat by comparison. About creating different accounts, i would say that if the articles you are submitting are targetted towards building the same site, then use the same account. Cant see any benefit of doing it otherwise, just takes more time to set up your new account. Plus alot of directories like it the more articles you submit, so after 10 submission you get platinum status. On the other hand if you have two totally different sites about different subjects then it might be better to create two accounts and submit your articles accordingly. As for outsourcing, it depends. You could go with something fixed rate per job, like fiverr.com. But if you really think you are constantly going to be submitting articles daily from now on, i think it would be more cost efective hiring a va to work for you. Provided the work you have lined up is easy and requires little initiative or judgement calls, i think you can get a VA to work a few hours per day for you for around $150-200. |
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Thanks! Could you suggest a list of top 150 high PR article directories? |
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Submit articles and your spun articles manually since it is better than using auto submit tools. I agree with what the others have been presenting that it has a higher rate of success if you submit your articles manually since you can check your articles. Or if you are a busy person, you might want to hire someone to submit your articles manually. You can just pay that person some fee so you could someone to manually submit articles even if you are busy.
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Like all, I am also suggesting manual submission and take care while spinning article, may be google panda will slap that backlink.
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One thing always keep in mind SEO is worthfull only in case when you ll do quality work.Automatic software can not provide you quality websites.So Prefer every work in SEO by manually,if want to get rank high and to get huge traffic.Try to submit your articles by manually and place your trageted keywords in author box. Thanks! |
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You need to be very carefull when taking advice in this thread, I have a feeling a lot of people have no idea about automated article submission. I submit around 3-5 articles a day. I was submitting to the top 10 or so directories manually, but now I pretty much only do around the top 5. I use article marketing robot to submit to 600-700 directories. I will instantly get a little over 300 auto approved articles listed. The other directories can take 3 or more months before they accept the article. I make sure that my original very well written articles go to the top 5 directories because they get syndicated. The syndicated article probably brings in more traffic that all the article directories combined. I do not use spun articles because they almost always come out as unreadable. If you are going to use spun articles you need to make sure they are readable. If you are not going to check them you should only submit them to the auto approved directories. Another thing to keep in mind: While the article diretories themselves may not bring in much traffic it is highly targeted. If you are using a spun article that does not read properly you will miss out on a tiny bit of highly targeted traffic. |
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Nobody accepts spun articles, so that was enough of a reason for me to stop spinning. It's a waste of time and it's embarrassing to have that garbage floating around with my name attached to it. | |
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@hashbury: Do you write your own articles? If not, how much do you pay? As for the article that you automatically submit to 600 article directories, are they spun? | |
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I think manual article submission is the best in comparing of other.
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I normally try to write my own articles because I know what my customers are looking for. For the past couple of weeks I have been trying different outsourcers because I have a lot going on. I have been paying $5 per 500 words to $8 per 500 words. I am in the proccess of trying different outsourcers to see which ones I am going to go with. If you dont have a lot of experience with articles I suggest you learn how to write them yourself before trying to outsource. It really helps if you know what kind of articles are going to convert before you let someone else write them. This way you can advise the outsourcer the exact way you want them written. Another hint is to find some of alexa's post about article marketing.She writes mainly for syndication and thats how I try to write my articles. As far as spinning, I dont do it just because its too time consuming. I have had fairly good luck not spinning the articles, but I also use a wide variety of links when llinking back to my site. | |
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If you want your submissions to be spread out over a time period, Article Marketing Robot actually has a scheduling feature. But I've also heard that just blasting to thousands of article directories will get you something like 100-500 approved backlinks and some won't even index that fast. This will give google the impression that you're getting a steady stream of backlinks. Just my 2 cents, good luck!
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Please stop listening to these guys who have no idea what automated submissions are. Most automated software have a scheduler. Use it. Setup your articles once, and the software posts your articles that whatever rate you set it. It could be 1 per day. The idea is ..that you set it and forget it and you get backlinks daily, freeing up your time to do other things. It is god damned annoying reading 20 posts from 20 different people who are basically parrots. |
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Best thing is to submit it manually.
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Of course Manual...
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I think, you should go though manual....Write an article by yourself or hire a GOOD writer...
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Submit your articles manually. Shortlist the top article directories and submit only to those directories.
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Best way to Submit Article is Manual Submission. But Ignore Content repetition, you have to use New Article Content for every Site. Just Make Submission in High Page Rank sites who can give you do follow sites, it will give you good Result.
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Manually submitting articles is the best way to go, because in Googles eyes so to speak it is not spamming. I submit articles to goarticles.com, ezinearticles, and articlesbase which are all decent Page Rank sites. Goodluck |
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Hmm I just learned that article directories are not exactly meant for backlinks. They'll be considered low quality since all of them will be non-contextual and PR0. Article directories are for syndication. What that means is that you can just copy/paste your article from your website to the directory without getting any penalty. If it is a good article, publishers will pick it out and publish it on their own blog/website, while keeping the links from the resource box. That is how you get true contextual high quality backlinks. However, you can use an automation tool to submit 1000+ articles. Even though the pages are going to be PR0, they'll still have value (real PR can be decimal, e.g 0.1). Therefore adding those backlinks in bulk will somewhat benefit you, but that is considered as artificial links and google might penalize you. So to all the people saying to submit articles manually, you're partially right. But there is no difference between manual submission or automatic submission, only the quality of the article. So many myths.... Thanks. |
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Submitting manually will be the best option...
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I'm absolutely shocked that the "manual submissions are the only way to go" replies just keep coming in one after the other. No one is giving any good reasons why manual is better they're just saying it because it sounds right. I say that it depends on how you intend to use the article. If you are writing for sydication, hoping your articles get picked up by a bunch of other websites resulting in direct traffic and high quality backlinks then manually submitting to a handful of top article directories is probably the way to go. HOWEVER... If you just want to get a lot of backlinks as quickly as possible then why would you choose not to use automation software. Why spend all day submitting to a few dozen directories when an automated tool can submit to hundreds of directories in a matter of minutes? If you're submitting spun articles to as many directories as possible it is an incredible waste of time to try to do so manually. Think about what your goal is and how you intend to use the article and that will tell you weather manual or automated submissions are the right choice. But just to say that manual is always better and is the only way to go is just crazy. |
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When washing your car, do you get better results washing it by hand or by taking it to the car wash so a machine can wash it? Manual is always better. Keeps your links natural and organic, doesn't look spammy.
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There is no such thing as article marketing, but article directory marketing (credits to Alexa Smith). Article directories' backlinks have absolutely no value. Why would you manually submit an spun version of an article? It would defeat its own purpose. Spun articles should be submitted automatically, since they are spun and there is no point on submitting them manually. Manual submission should only be for high quality articles meant for syndication. Automatic submission should only be for spun articles meant for "extra" backlink juice. | |
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As far as being penalized, what happens when you have a really good article that gets syndicated across hundreds of sites? You are going to get a lot of backlinks that could be see as "artificial links", but I have never penalized for this. Another thing to consider is that your links are not indexed all at once. They take some time to get indexed and looks more natural. However, I backlink all my articles to get them indexed fast and yet I have never been penalized for this. I am talking for over 200 sites here not just one or two. It funny how everyone else say manual sumission and cant even give a good reason to do it this way. Yet, you asked the original question and were pretty much the only person that could supply a valid argument against maunual submission. You are already a step ahead of most of the people in this thread, so whatever you decide to do, you will more than likely succeed (at least more than the people in this thread IMO). Quote:
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To the OP, there is both good advice and bad advice in this thread and the two sides will argue their points endlessly without budging on their position. Both sides will continue to say the same things over and over and a thread like this could end up being 500 pages without any new information so at this point it's up to you to decide who's advice is worth listening to and who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. (and their are plenty of people that don't know what the hell they're talking about by the way) |
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Please dont get me wrong, Im not saying artivle directories provide the highest qwuality links by far. I would much prefer a link on a pr4 or 5 page over 500 or 1000 article links. However the simplicity of getting 500 or 1000 article links has more value in time wise than other methods. I do believe in having a variety of different backlinks and article links is just one of the types I use. Quote:
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| @hashbury I wasn't saying they were garbage links, but rather saying they weren't high quality. Now don't go contradicting yourself, you said that you would rather have a contextual link on a pr4 page rather than 500 articles. That was my point. Google's algorithm isn't that simple, and they don't only compare page-to-page. They take everything in consideration. Nobody will fully understand, we can only rely on what we know and logic. I'm pretty sure their algorithm can differentiate article directories, atleast the massive popular ones. As for syndicated content, they know it as well. Your content won't get syndicated thousand times in one day, but rather a small amount in a long period of time. So what's my conclusion?? Do both manual and automatic submissions. Manual for good high quality content (for syndication) and automatic for thousands of spun variations (for pure backlink power) Thanks. |
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My content may not get syndicated thousands of times in a day, but It has been syndicated over 200+ times in a day numerous times. This is about how many articles I will put out in a day (just because these directories are auto approve). The rest will trickle out out they get approved. Again I dont really see how google can differentiate these articles from syndicated ones. Quote:
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Yes me too will suggest to do it manually.
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or thousands of directories. So if you purely want more backlink juice, why not submit different spun content and get more beneficial backlinks. Great posts! I feel that communication among each other in this business is key to succeed. Thanks. btw im writing on my cell, so there might be some flaws in my writing | |||
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Manual. The automatic ones tend to submit to directories that have a page rank of "n/a and 0." I have found that by posting manually on websites like goarticles, ezinearticles, and zimbio, that I get listed higher in Google.
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I would submit the articles to high authority sites like ezine manually and will use auto submission for the spun articles because if you decide to do it manually you will be investing a lot of time in just submitting content which you can use to some productive work. And since you are looking at 250 articles a month I would not outsource it either because I tell you there are just few 10-15 directors that will help you boost the rankings the rest would not so It's not worth spending that much money every month for those sites...
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It depends on the article directory, the best article directories have a manual review anyway, so it's best to manually go through your article and the steps to submission
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I like to submit article manually..
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try to do it manually because in automated process you are going to miss lots of good quality article sites.
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