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Old 05-23-2013, 12:21 AM   #1
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Until last day all our niche pages were ranking on the first 3 SERP pages. Right now when i just open the analytics i saw only 4 people visited our website... it's really disappointing... Google throw out my 2 very top ranked pages completely out of the race, it's now not even ranking under 1000. Am in a very big shock. Well, can i still expect anymore changes from google within next few hours that i'll retain my positions back for all those bounced pages? or should i re-build my SEO strategy? SEO really matters for my niche... please advise something
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I would wait a view days till the dust is settled before making any moves

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Based on what I have seen so far today, blog comment links are no longer effective in competitive markets. Were most of your links from blog comments?


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No, i never get any link from blogs commenting.... all my links are from directories, article submission websites, social bookmarking and press release sites.... Hey lemme show you my backlinks...

Total links
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allworldlinks.com 30,976
forpressrelease.com 36
amazines.com 30
freearticleadvertising.com 27
pr-gb.com 26

Okay, so am getting a lots of links from allworldlinks.com , should i just remove my backlink from there? Please advice
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Personally I would get rid of sitewide links yes.

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Okay tell me how to get rid off this link? i found no way to contact directory admin
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mmm, just a guess, but methinks those allworldlinks links are no longer effective.

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I can disallow those allworldlinks.com sitewide links from webmaster tools but am still confuse that what if i remove them and i suffer more droppings in google... Those links were effective, it did boosted my website.
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Affected me badly as well...Lets wait for a week or two and then decide what to do next..
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You're right surajramnani, it's really very disappointing, i mean totally unfair... I did everything naturally, we wrote content from professional writers and we ranked high... now this penguin updates ruined everything.... DO you've any idea that how long will this penguin thing can take to settle everything down?
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You're right surajramnani, it's really very disappointing, i mean totally unfair... I did everything naturally, we wrote content from professional writers and we ranked high... now this penguin updates ruined everything.... DO you've any idea that how long will this penguin thing can take to settle everything down?
I don't think anyone would know how they roll out these updates but one thing i do know is that things will settle down...So don't worry the update has just completed or is close to being completed...Who knows you might end up coming out better than ever...Just sit back and relax at the end of the Day neither you nor i will win..It will always be Google...

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LOL true.... Google always win. But am only concerned about this one link from allworldlinks.com because it's generating a lot of sidewide links to my domain and it looks very odd.... and i don't want this single link to ruin everything... Do you suggest me removing this one link by disallowing it from webmaster tools or as you said to sit back and relax?
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First thing you need to do is stop.

Google has a tendency to shake up the SERPs, then put a few ranked pages back like nothing ever happened.

Or you can panic & make drastic site/link changes.



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First thing you need to do is stop.

Google has a tendency to shake up the SERPs, then put a few ranked pages back like nothing ever happened.

Or you can panic & make drastic site/link changes.
Agree with you 100% mate...If the site is harmed its better to be where it is rather than putting it down even more to give google a chance to bring you back...As the saying does "Dont try to fix things it they ain't broken"
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You're right surajramnani, it's really very disappointing, i mean totally unfair... I did everything naturally, we wrote content from professional writers and we ranked high... now this penguin updates ruined everything.... DO you've any idea that how long will this penguin thing can take to settle everything down?
All sites that I saw to be affected didn't do things right at all.

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Well said guys... Am going with no changes and i wont remove any link-- Just relax, sit back and watch what's going to be happen
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Personally I would get rid of sitewide links yes.
Why so?

One PR6 blog has naturally linked my blog to his blogroll. Should I e-mail him and tell "I don't want my link to your blogroll, remove it asap!"
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Bad news for me.

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Just wait and watch... wait for some days, let the google settle everything down.
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Y it's really very disappointing, i mean totally unfair..I did everything naturally
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No, i never get any link from blogs commenting.... all my links are from directories, article submission websites, social bookmarking and press release sites....
That is as unnatural as it gets!
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Well said guys... Am going with no changes and i wont remove any link-- Just relax, sit back and watch what's going to be happen
Actually, you and I both know that you are already (/"&!&" up.
Bookmarks, article submission, directory submission, blog commenting - You're doing it wrong...

Learn some basics of SEO and start all over again. And this time don't do any mistakes. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but I have done those mistakes as well, back in 2011 ofc.
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If the sitewide link is from a relevant source and is helpful to the user than you can keep it in my opinion.

You might want to check if their site received a penalty as that could harm your site.

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No, i never get any link from blogs commenting.... all my links are from directories, article submission websites, social bookmarking and press release sites.... Hey lemme show you my backlinks...

Total links
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allworldlinks.com 30,976
forpressrelease.com 36
amazines.com 30
freearticleadvertising.com 27
pr-gb.com 26

Okay, so am getting a lots of links from allworldlinks.com , should i just remove my backlink from there? Please advice
You had missed out contextual links from Web 2.0 sites. I mean, go for blogging using Web 2.0 - That may help you, and you can get links from your niche-related content...!!

Article directory/press releases links were lost their value during Penguin 1.0 (I guess), but still those are good for links variation...
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hahaha dude, trust me i was ranking on first 2 pages for all my targeted keywords by applying all those methods
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hahaha dude, trust me i was ranking on first 2 pages for all my targeted keywords by applying all those methods
...until Penguin come. I have been there, done that. This is not a long-term strategy. That's all.
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SO now where to start then? Web 2.0 links?
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hahaha dude, trust me i was ranking on first 2 pages for all my targeted keywords by applying all those methods
First of all..if someone tries to help based on their experience, do not make joke about it...

Well, If you use Web 2.0, did u apply anchor text variations? Did you created your niche related blogs? Did you contribute more content to those blogs? Were those blog target human readers or for just JUNK links? Did you apply syndication? How about anchor text variations? lol.. Get your answer yourself
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Am dead.................
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Am dead.................
No you are NOT, you are sleeping, time for you to get up smartly and do study and analysis and get into battle & get your ranks back
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Why so?

One PR6 blog has naturally linked my blog to his blogroll. Should I e-mail him and tell "I don't want my link to your blogroll, remove it asap!"
As long as it doesn't hurt your rankings then keep it, but most people deal with blogroll links from pr2, pr3, pr4 sites and you can easily miss one of those.

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Wait a few days, and then start working on the problem.
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Well there's your answer. Forget about article sites, directories, press releases (except for VERY high-quality and expensive ones), etc. Stick with high-quality private link networks, or if you can't find or afford one, then multi-tiered linking.

As for PR, it's total rubbish, we've learned over the years that domain age is FAR FAR more important than PR, what's why all of our sites are 5-15 years old.

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No, i never get any link from blogs commenting.... all my links are from directories, article submission websites, social bookmarking and press release sites.... Hey lemme show you my backlinks...

Total links
31,771
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allworldlinks.com 30,976
forpressrelease.com 36
amazines.com 30
freearticleadvertising.com 27
pr-gb.com 26

Okay, so am getting a lots of links from allworldlinks.com , should i just remove my backlink from there? Please advice
I think your problem is allworldlinks.com 30,976 links from the same domain ? I guess you have the same anchor text on all those links. Are they all do follow ?

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Stop trying to manipulate the search results.

Pretty simple really.

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Just write plenty of fresh quality content.


While you're doing that, I'll be doing SEO that actually works.

If your bio says "social media guru" you aren't.
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If you have been hit with penguin stop what you are doing and start doing some SEM. Like spending some time to gain natural links
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yup. it's also affected for some of my blog. in this month I lose 30% visitor. 80% of my blog visitors comes from google.

just rebuild your content and replace with quality content after that doing SEO. i think it's work to improve the result on google

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I would wait a view days till the dust is settled before making any moves
Would be great if this is where they leave it!

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No, i never get any link from blogs commenting.... all my links are from directories, article submission websites, social bookmarking and press release sites.... Hey lemme show you my backlinks...

Total links
31,771
Who links the most
allworldlinks.com 30,976
forpressrelease.com 36
amazines.com 30
freearticleadvertising.com 27
pr-gb.com 26

Okay, so am getting a lots of links from allworldlinks.com , should i just remove my backlink from there? Please advice
@adnan ali, you made blunder mistake by generating more than 30,000 backlinks from a particular domain. Try to remove those backlinks first. Next, what you have to do is that check your website in copyscape. Someone might have copied your website content. If anyone did this then, this is also one of the strong reason for your website ranking going down. Try to file a TakeDown against that company.

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Seems to be case of aggressive backlinking from single source. It's not going to work anymore I feel.

Link diversity is key now.

I would advice you to remove that dir links, and add:

High PR links (find good source, not blog networks)
High PR Web 2.0
PDF Sites

You can also make link pyramid by doing tier 2 and tier 3.

For more on this, PM me.

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Would be great if this is where they leave it!
I agree, i lost a view 100 dollars in amazon revenu, (traffic and rankings are almost 0% now) but my local sites are gaining more and more traffic and rankings for longterm keywords that my pages are not optimized for.

But i am still not sure this is what it is, if these results are still here next week to 10 days from now then i will be a very happy camper...

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